[Q] support for HDMI and USB OTG - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

im going to buy that phone but do it supposrt that? i already got hdmi and usb one from my N7000 note
wish it does(((
this phone got low storage and i really like this phone

sorry yes it doesnt have OTG support its horrible it would be awesome specially for this guy
im thinking if i get out of space

Yes it does have OTG but you need an external power.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820

thanks but i dont think i can find this in iran and i already got a cable for my note
anyway i dont really care about this

woops sorry! i tought its a cable is it safe:?

For HDMI out I don't think your cable will work. Majority of older phones use mhl for HDMI out but the n4 uses slimport and mhl cables will not work
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1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.

damn i bough cable wanted to experience playing games on hd tv but my phone bricked after that no chance let me see if that works whit htc one s (of my father)
anyway mine got a hdmi input and a power input and a micro-usb output
and slim port is it better? never heard about it

ziddey said:
1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.
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is using OTG safe whit that kernel:?

kamranhaghighi said:
is using OTG safe whit that kernel:?
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NO

o...ok...!

ziddey said:
NO
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anyway is it better than others? i mean the slimport! why did they use it:?

nvm its less power and... im trying to see if i can connect another way or..

ziddey said:
1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.
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I just got the Rocket fish Miracast dongle from best buy. Works flawlessly. Streaming Netflix, HBO, CNN, etc. For gaming not useful, but for a media center experience, is perfect.
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thanks a lot anyway this is just a single drop nexus 4 is really amazing i would buy a slimport maybe i found oh ok i will play games in its 4.7 inch display
and i will do something for storage maybe use LAN in es explorer whit my PC is there anyway suck at this to acsses or files or something using network(i mean home network)

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[Q] buying Nexus 7 - newbie help

Hey there, i will be buying my first tablet - Nexus 7 (32gb) as i will be using it for gaming, reading, watching TV shows/movies etc
My main concern was regarding connecting storage devices
1. How could i connect the tablet with a USB Flash-drive? could i use an OTG USB Connector to sync the two so i can get data from my flash-drive via the tablet? is there a specific one i should get or any should work and where can i buy one. is it compatible?
2. As there is no HDMI input, how can i connect the tablet to my TV, if i wanted to show pictures on the TV. Could i get the MHL Cable HDMI connector, as i saw best buy carries them.
Thank you
Faze
fazedevil said:
Hey there, i will be buying my first tablet - Nexus 7 (32gb) as i will be using it for gaming, reading, watching TV shows/movies etc
My main concern was regarding connecting storage devices
1. How could i connect the tablet with a USB Flash-drive? could i use an OTG USB Connector to sync the two so i can get data from my flash-drive via the tablet? is there a specific one i should get or any should work and where can i buy one. is it compatible?
2. As there is no HDMI input, how can i connect the tablet to my TV, if i wanted to show pictures on the TV. Could i get the MHL Cable HDMI connector, as i saw best buy carries them.
Thank you
Faze
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yes this supports usb otg cable and it works flawlessely and you can also stream movies from usb flash drive
just google it how to use otg cable on nexus 7
and for the hdmi i doubt i heard that this tab doesnt support?? but still not sure
You can attach an OTG cable. You can either do it rooted or you can get apps to help you stream data from the external drive. Many people like to use Nexus media importer, though it's a paid app. People buy from 80 cent cables to $5+ ones and work fine. Just read reviews on what you plan to buy.
There is no HDMI support though in 4.2 update that is coming out soon, you can stream to your TV if you get an adapter.
While I love my N7, if you are huge on media consumption, you might want to look at the kindle fire HD. The only downside is that you are stuck in the amazon ecosystem but it has the HDMI support.
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There is no HDMI support though in 4.2 update that is coming out soon, you can stream to your TV if you get an adapter.
The above is only a rumor.. Its not confirmed.. Matter a fact there is some speculation that the device is not capable for full mira-cast encoding.
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There is no HDMI support though in 4.2 update that is coming out soon, you can stream to your TV if you get an adapter.
The above is only a rumor.. Its not confirmed.. Matter a fact there is some speculation that the device is not capable for full mira-cast encoding.
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Gotcha, I didn't read up on that thread. Just pre-release notes on android sites.
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OTG cable work with Nexus 10? What's a good one? Thx

Anyone have a link to a good cable? And will and USB flash drive work with it?
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darkstar765 said:
Anyone have a link to a good cable? And will and USB flash drive work with it?
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Would also like to know if you can use USB2GO with the nexus...
Any OTG cable will work.. don't pay $20 for a cable that is only worth $1.. unless you're buying like 5 or more in a pack.. Amazon got some good ones for like a dollar and they ship from the States
Also the kernel will have to support USB host for OTG to work.. not sure if the stock kernel does
So do external storages work, unrooted?
If you don't root you can get an app that lets you view,down load or stream video files or documents from stick drives or card readers.It does not allow you to write to the cards however.It works great for those things.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
There is a free version that only does photos.I suggest using it first to test and see how you like it.The above version is a $3 app so make sure the free one works before buying the other. jmo
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...iwiY29tLmhvbWV5c29mdC5uZXh1c3VzYi52aWV3ZXIiXQ..
If you need to write to a card you will have to be rooted and wait for them to iron out the multi-user problems with the 4.2 update before the stick-mount app will work again.It is broken at present but once working again will require root to mount the sd card so files can be transferred via a file explorer app to the sd card.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount
Does it have enough power for a usb hard disk?
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It seems that CIFS is also an issue with 4.2 ... Google must REALLY want us using Play to seemingly block the CRAP out of doing any R/W to external sources.
Of course it could just be a "side effect" of the new Google "security feature" that locks USB access to the process that spawned it.
I want to know how the Nexus Media app is getting away with it. Maybe it's because everything is IN the app - so the USB access continues to work.
I dunno ... all I DO know is that my Nexus 7 is staying on 4.1.2 until it's fixed.
Tried with the one I have from the galaxy s3 and it was not recognized. The sgs3 is rooted stock. When I plug it into the galaxy, it immediately sees the USB host connected
Edit- tried it with a USB mouse and it worked fine
Kevin
I would like to know more information about this matter too. I'm really new to otg stuff, but I do know that you need to be rooted un the nexus 7 for it to work fine.
I think it needs to be rooted to use USB OTG. i have a 2$ USB OTG working fine with my unrooted S3 but on the nexus 10 it won't regconize.
Just tested it with a 5 bucks OTG, so far:
Mouse razor naga: OK.
USB keyboard microsoft: OK.
Pendrive Kingston 4gb: nothing happens.
For me it's ok I just wanted to use it for the keyboard. No problem at all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994299
This is a good OTG cable. Works on anything that supports OTG. Lifetime warranty, good price, super fast shipping. I have a few and use them on all my devices.
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Micro-USB-OTG-Cable/dp/B005GGBYJ4
Enjoy! Happy Holidays all!!
+1 on that cable. Like the angle & not too short or long. Nice & sturdy.
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I'm looking for a OTG cable/adapter in the UK and wanted to whether mini USB OTG adapter will work with flash drives and external drives, or do I an micro USB OTG adapter? What's the difference?
Bought this one and it works but I wouldn't recommend it because the male end that goes into the Nexus10 is a little too long and creates a loose connection. I'm gonna order another type tonight.
Stickmount works great on my rooted nexus10.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=300803544652
I have a otg cable that works fine on my S3 but I plug it into the nexus and I get nothing. The S3 auto detects the cable alone but nothing at all happens when I plug it into the nexus no matter what, if anything, is plugged into it. I just want to use it for mouse and keyboard.
Think I should buy another cable to try out or am I missing something?
A cheap OTG cable that came bundled with a $60 tablet my mom ordered works on my Nexus 10.
On an unrelated note, Samsung should of bundled a USB OTG cable.
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faulkton said:
I have a otg cable that works fine on my S3 but I plug it into the nexus and I get nothing. The S3 auto detects the cable alone but nothing at all happens when I plug it into the nexus no matter what, if anything, is plugged into it. I just want to use it for mouse and keyboard.
Think I should buy another cable to try out or am I missing something?
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Just install nexus importer on Google play. Nexus doesn't natively support usb otg like s3
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AspenMan said:
This is a good OTG cable. Works on anything that supports OTG. Lifetime warranty, good price, super fast shipping. I have a few and use them on all my devices.
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Micro-USB-OTG-Cable/dp/B005GGBYJ4
Enjoy! Happy Holidays all!!
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DO NOT GET THIS ONE!
I have the same one and it completely blocks the headphone port which is right under the micro-usb port. The micro-usb plugs in with the flat part facing you / the screen so this one would obviously angle down and over the headphone port. Find one that is either straight or angles the other way.

[Q] Can We use the jack output to video out?

Hy guys!
I just found a jack to compozit cable in my cabinet. It has a Jack father and an RCA (red-white-yellow) father. I have got a pic, but Im new in here, so I cant link...
So, I just wondering, can we use this cable to connect the N7 to a TV?
I know, at the moment we can't, but why? Because the hardware limitation, or the android doesn't support this feature?
bloosebr said:
Hy guys!
I just found a jack to compozit cable in my cabinet. It has a Jack father and an RCA (red-white-yellow) father. I have got a pic, but Im new in here, so I cant link...
So, I just wondering, can we use this cable to connect the N7 to a TV?
I know, at the moment we can't, but why? Because the hardware limitation, or the android doesn't support this feature?
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As far as I know, you'd just be transporting the audio if you were to plug it into any device. You'd have to have an extra adapter to port the video through the yellow composite video cable.
Though people have been known to make some wicked little mods, so you never know these days.
Nexus 7 does not have the hardware capability.
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You could always use an MHL adapter to output to a TV, that is if the Nexus 7 supports that method. I've never tried it.
MegaMac said:
You could always use an MHL adapter to output to a TV, that is if the Nexus 7 supports that method. I've never tried it.
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Nexus 7 doesn't have MHL.
Eagle1337 said:
Nexus 7 doesn't have MHL.
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Ah, well that's disappointing. I never looked into it before, but now I know. =P
Thats awkward. So If we want to connent the tablet to a television, we must use some wifi app, and the TV must be a smart one...
Or can We take advantage of pogo-jack? I never seen before this kind of plug, so I dont know, what it can do.
bloosebr said:
Thats awkward. So If we want to connent the tablet to a television, we must use some wifi app, and the TV must be a smart one...
Or can We take advantage of pogo-jack? I never seen before this kind of plug, so I dont know, what it can do.
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The pogo pins only do charging and audio.

Does MHL adapters work on our Note 3?

So I'm wanting to play my Google movies on my flat screen and am thinking about trying a mhl adapter but didn't know if it works since our USB setup is different being a 3.0. Will I be okay just using the 2.0 USB for the adapter? Thanks everyone. It's either this or Chromecast.
Yeah it does work. The only thing is it used to play the movie on the phone to, but now it just says connected to hdmi. I used the 2.0 and it worked perfect. Crystal clear screen.
P2o8wer said:
Yeah it does work. The only thing is it used to play the movie on the phone to, but now it just says connected to hdmi. I used the 2.0 and it worked perfect. Crystal clear screen.
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Thanks for that feedback. Would you mind sharing what brand adapter you used?
I wonder if there is an optimized mhl cord to take advantage of our dual slot 3.0 adapter for faster streaming.
By the way. When I was swyping the word "faster" it kept on outputting "gayer" lol 4 times. I think my phone is trying to tell me something haha.
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Brandonrz said:
I wonder if there is an optimized mhl cord to take advantage of our dual slot 3.0 adapter for faster streaming.
By the way. When I was swyping the word "faster" it kept on outputting "gayer" lol 4 times. I think my phone is trying to tell me something haha.
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I was wondering same thing about the 3.o USB
Here we go. One that's 3.0
Harleydroid said:
Thanks for that feedback. Would you mind sharing what brand adapter you used?
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SAMSUNG
I bought a cheap skiva brand 6 ft cord it's USB 2.o but works great only 6.00 .Also has the mhl adapter
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Correct Model number in the picture?
I am currently in the market for the MHL adpater for my Note 3, so, is the picture the same exact model as this?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1499515&csid=_61
Thanks in advance!
P2o8wer said:
SAMSUNG
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jmoi923 said:
I am currently in the market for the MHL adpater for my Note 3, so, is the picture the same exact model as this?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1499515&csid=_61
Thanks in advance!
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This don't pertain to the mhl adapter but I ended up getting Chromecast. And just recently Koush the CWM dev made an app Allcast that let's you use Chromecast to mirror your device no cords.
Harleydroid said:
This don't pertain to the mhl adapter but I ended up getting Chromecast. And just recently Koush the CWM dev made an app Allcast that let's you use Chromecast to mirror your device no cords.
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oh, OK, HarleyDroid, cool, thanks, I'll keep that option in mind as well.
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Harleydroid said:
This don't pertain to the mhl adapter but I ended up getting Chromecast. And just recently Koush the CWM dev made an app Allcast that let's you use Chromecast to mirror your device no cords.
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Allcast let's you 1:1 screen mirror.??
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blaine07 said:
Allcast let's you 1:1 screen mirror.??
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It let's you stream your media that's stored on your device.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221327013877
I bought this one. I liked it b/c it had support for old MHL and my Note 3. I can use it on any of my phones or tablets.

Let's use that port!

Hi guys!
I know that USB type C can map to several devices (even VGA/HDMI).
How do we know which ones are supported?
I'd fancy buying a USB<->HDMI Adapter (smilar to the Slimport<>HDMI I have for my Nexus5).
Will it be supported?
It's not USB 3.1 so I don't know if all of those would still be supported.
In the reddit AMA the developers confirmed it would not have HDMI out. You could always mirror it with a chromecast though.
Then why USB Type-C if none of the goodies? Just for fast-charging and reversability?
Casting takes a lot of power and heat.
(Isn't losing video-out another downgrade?)
Alferboy said:
Then why USB Type-C if none of the goodies? Just for fast-charging and reversability?
Casting takes a lot of power and heat.
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Well, quoting myself... Actually would the rendering at the device with dedicated hardware give up more heat than broadcasting via WiFi?
Which would take more power?
Allways believe that any kind of "air transmission" is quite power-consuming.
Alferboy said:
Then why USB Type-C if none of the goodies? Just for fast-charging and reversability?
Casting takes a lot of power and heat.
(Isn't losing video-out another downgrade?)
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Yeah it is a downgrade. I never cared if a phone could stream HDMI before, but now that I'm seeing a 6P as way to carry a single device (no more tablet with HDMI + phone), it is disappointing. Plus, when I read about USB-C having so many capabilities, I was hoping the phone would include some of them instead of it just being a connector choice.
Strange choice leaving out the HDMI stuff etc. Don't understand it. I wonder if the 810 gets too hot outputting to HDMI.
I don't know if people would use stuff other than OTG or video-out. But it'd definitely be nice for some guys for other devices (even though most can be connected to OTG).
Ok... really just video-out
Casting generating less heat than rendering video... hmm..... no idea...
Alferboy said:
I don't know if people would use stuff other than OTG or video-out. But it'd definitely be nice for some guys for other devices (even though most can be connected to OTG).
Ok... really just video-out
Casting generating less heat than rendering video... hmm..... no idea...
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If you have ever done presentations using a micro-usb to HDMI cable, you know that this puts a lot of stress on the connector. And having to drag a cable all over the place is an inconvenience. This is with a Nexus 7 (2013). For me, the presence of WiFi Direct and hence Miracast is far more important. I find that with the Nexus 7 at least, Miracast works perfectly. I use an Actiontec Screenbeam Mini2 as a dongle. I am anticipatinf that the Nexus 6p will work as well, but we will see.
why do you want a big cable connect to your tv/monitor?
I imagine Google want you to use their Chromecast ?
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DaveHTC200 said:
I imagine Google want you to use their Chromecast ?
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Yep, Google wants a wireless world.... Minus charging... Lol
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Smallsmx3 said:
Yep, Google wants a wireless world.... Minus charging... Lol
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Yeah, I LOL'd. In public. For no apparent reason. Thanks.
ScreenBeam Mini2 & Nexus 6P
Please let us know if it works.
CYoung234 said:
If you have ever done presentations using a micro-usb to HDMI cable, you know that this puts a lot of stress on the connector. And having to drag a cable all over the place is an inconvenience. This is with a Nexus 7 (2013). For me, the presence of WiFi Direct and hence Miracast is far more important. I find that with the Nexus 7 at least, Miracast works perfectly. I use an Actiontec Screenbeam Mini2 as a dongle. I am anticipatinf that the Nexus 6p will work as well, but we will see.
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warplane95 said:
why do you want a big cable connect to your tv/monitor?
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I don't think anyone wants the cable, per se. It is plug-n-play that we want. How do you go to a friend's house, hotel, couch-surfing, etc., and watch a movie that is on your Nexus 6P (on whatever televion is available).

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