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Is the phone that much faster without Sense? Is it any better on the battery? I like the Sense apps but have thought of switching to vanilla if I can get better battery life and less occasional lag (like its really that bad ).
Just looking for Pros and Cons...Is ADW a good alternative? I tried Launcher Pro and it seemed run slow, maybe because sense was running behind it.
Vanilla is better, but is not fasteror better onbattery.
Launcher pro is the best launcher
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I just prefer vanilla over sense, no technical reason why. Also, I second the vote for LauncherPro.
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I like sense myself..after having trield vanilla and launcher pro..Launcher pro MAY be needing resources a bit more than sense and vanilla.. as these two are built in.. while Launcher pro is an app.
kriskmk said:
I like sense myself..after having trield vanilla and launcher pro..Launcher pro MAY be needing resources a bit more than sense and vanilla.. as these two are built in.. while Launcher pro is an app.
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I second this. I just used Sky Raiders 2.2 vanilla and while it was amazing in the battery department it was not all that great in the UI arena IMO. I just missed some of the features that you have with sense.
I prefer sense, mostly because of it's better Exchange integration. I like the tweaks and additional functionality that Sense provides.
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I second this. I just used Sky Raiders 2.2 vanilla and while it was amazing in the battery department it was not all that great in the UI arena IMO. I just missed some of the features that you have with sense.
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I think it was lacking in the ui because it is a mix of vanilla and sense. Some theming will clear that up.
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I really like the 5 buttons on the bottom of Launcher Pro as apposed to the sense bar with 3 buttons. But LauncherPro just didn't seem as smooth with sense running the BG and all I could think about was how it would kill my battery with Sense running all the while I have LauncherPro going.
I run the stock rom with Launcher Pro as my default rom and nandroid backup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill sense and all the non critical supporting processes and apps. My battery life is about the same as before I switched over to this configuration, and my phone does seem to run about as smooth as it did with sense. I have used ADW and a couple others, as well as the stock vanilla android, and I like Launcher Pro the best. I get some stability issues here and there, but LP just restarts and all is well in the world. I also use the Beautiful Widgets clock/weather widget, it may contribute to the occasional force closes, but they'e not frequent enough to concern me.
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I run the stock rom with Launcher Pro as my default rom and nandroid backup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill sense and all the non critical supporting processes and apps. My battery life is about the same as before I switched over to this configuration, and my phone does seem to run about as smooth as it did with sense. I have used ADW and a couple others, as well as the stock vanilla android, and I like Launcher Pro the best. I get some stability issues here and there, but LP just restarts and all is well in the world. I also use the Beautiful Widgets clock/weather widget, it may contribute to the occasional force closes, but they'e not frequent enough to concern me.
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likewise I used to be an avid ATK (Advanced Task Killer) user.. but after having read how android OS works and reading plenty of expert articles.. apparently using a task killer is COUNTER PRODUCTIVE to saving memory and battery.. you can google this if you want.. Android OS has built in file and RAM allocation management systems.. the ATKs will kill a task before it has a chance to shut down itself.. resulting in depletion of resources necessarily.
jdkoreclipse said:
Vanilla is better, but is not fasteror better on battery.
Launcher pro is the best launcher
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I agree 100%. Coming from Moto Droid. I am not a big fan of sense. It just seems like there is too much stuff going on. It all depends on how much social integration you like, i.e. Facebook, twitter and so on.
Is there any way to change the bottom bar? I really like the LLP bar, but sense is smoother so I will likely stick with it for the forseeable future.
I have been wondering lately how alike sense 3's "3d" transitions are to adw ex's cube inverted transitions, and it got me wondering how many people wanted sense 3 just because the 3d aspect of it (like me) and i'd like to hear what users here on xda would prefer of these two rom concepts: sense 3 (any rendition available or to come available) or any version of cm7 with the system launcher replaced with adw ex before flashing (by unzipping the rom, replacing the one apk in system/apps and re-zipping). I know adw ex is a paid app and that in itself may be a deciding factor but to those who dont care about said cost, what made you choose sense 3? Or what made you decide on a cm7 rom with "3d" transitions instead. personally I prefer hyperdroid cm7 because right now cyanogen mod is insanely fast, fully functional, has tons of features only offered in cm7, and adw ex is incredibly versatile. But I find myself wanting the sense 3 lockscreen more and more. So what does the community think?
I know some of you guys are plagued with this decision like I am lol
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Nobody? At all?
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Hi XDA, I'm currently in the process of making a new 2.3.4 ROM called CAE (Complete Android Experience) I've added new features and changed the UI but now since the ROM will be heavily community orientated Im after your input, Which apps would you like to see included? Do you favour looks/performance? and generally who's interested in using this?
Many Thanks!
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Hi XDA, I'm currently in the process of making a new 2.3.4 ROM called CAE (Complete Android Experience) I've added new features and changed the UI but now since the ROM will be heavily community orientated Im after your input, Which apps would you like to see included? Do you favour looks/performance? and generally who's interested in using this?
Many Thanks!
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I can try it when you finished it!
If you can make it fast and all to work, then I use it!
ADW Launcher for deafult launcher is good!
and good WiFi files have: CM7 or Japanese Jellyfish RLS11..?
So if you want good WiFi then try CM WiFi files (Newest Nightly)
And if you add speed tweaks to build.prop then the ROM is much better!
build.prop:
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=30 to save battery
this is maybe good:
ro.product.multi_touch_enabled=true
ro.product.max_num_touch=2
if your build.prop don't have these then add to make your ROM much better:
media.stagefright.enable-player=false
media.stagefright.enable-meta=false
media.stagefright.enable-scan=false
media.stagefright.enable-http=false
there is something: http://alldroid.org/Default.aspx?tabid=40&g=posts&m=5696
maybe with this website build.prop boot sound texts you can get the boot sound to work..?
manumanfred said:
I can try it when you finished it!
ADW Launcher for deafult launcher is good!
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I don't agree, I find ADW quite laggy.
The EX version is excellent though.
k0zmic said:
I don't agree, I find ADW quite laggy.
The EX version is excellent though.
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OK! I use always ADW Launcher because It is faster Launcher which I used on my JetDroid ROMs and Blade CM 7.# ROMs...
it is maybe faster than launcherpro launcher but whatever!
EX version lagging on my JetDroid ROMs and it's slower than ADW Launcher? :/
If ADW Launcher is not good then leave original or try touchwiz 3.0 or Launcher Pro...?
=)
manumanfred said:
OK! I use always ADW Launcher because It is faster Launcher which I used on my JetDroid ROMs and Blade CM 7.# ROMs...
it is maybe faster than launcherpro launcher but whatever!
EX version lagging on my JetDroid ROMs and it's slower than ADW Launcher? :/
If ADW Launcher is not good then leave original or try touchwiz 3.0 or Launcher Pro...?
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I find it around the same as LauncherPro on CM7, for me Stock the fastest.
TouchWiz would certainly be interestisting, LauncherPro is always a good option.
Personally, I'd say just leave it as the stock one since people can always download ADW/ADW EX, LP etc without much difficulty.
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I find it around the same as LauncherPro on CM7, for me Stock the fastest.
TouchWiz would certainly be interestisting, LauncherPro is always a good option.
Personally, I'd say just leave it as the stock one since people can always download ADW/ADW EX, LP etc without much difficulty.
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OK! but TouchWi launcher is not good if ADW Launcher is slow!
My vote is for Launcherpro, for me is faster and smother than ADW
+1 for LP.Hope to see your Rom soon.
forbidden8 said:
+1 for LP.Hope to see your Rom soon.
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Will be uploaded tonight if anyone's interested.
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Will be uploaded tonight if anyone's interested.
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if you write more here : which works which not and which need fixing... etc.
and Screenshots of your ROM then people see that does it look good, etc.
I will not try it yet because first I need to check that can I get apps2sd to work on GSF, because without apps2sd I do not use ROM:s ...
I've read on other topics people talking about ics on our gs2, so i decided to create a thread to express opinions
instead of spamming other topics hehehe
So if you want to say twiz is fugly or i like it, this is the wright place for you hehehe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396647
For the ones that seek aosp feeling in sgs2 folow the link and post there hehehe
If you ask me the ics in the s2 looks like a car wreck hehehe its the ugliest thing i've ever seen XD
(bla bla if you hate so much why did u bought a s2? Because it was the best smartphone on the market, and still is one of the best)
Personally I like touchwiz way more than the LG, Motorolla, and HTC overlays. The launcher is the only thing I don't like about it, and that's easily fixed with launcher pro. I personally think the TW stuff adds some nice functionality without causing speed problems. The only thing I wish touchwiz had is the inline spelling correction... other than that it's fine for me.
Thats true, tw introduced a lot of things that were missing on gb, but for the best sammy phone it would be expected something better in aspect, not a expensive android copy of bada os
Business and Marketin Wise:
You can't sell a phone and later with an update, force people to change their entire experience with their phone.
So yes, ICS will have TW similiar to Gingerbread TW, there is no escape from that.
Luckily, unlike Apple users, we have options to "choose" from any launcher, even allowed to install different types of Android distros...
However, what I would like is similiar experience to AOSP launcher especially in App Drawer like Widgets, slides etc.
Touchwiz is by far the smoothest launcher for the s2.. The modified 4.5 version is even better..
So ill stick to tw.. Other launchers tends to be battery hungry..
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Better if samsung provides an option in settings to switch between touchwiz and ics launchers. Default being tw will not change the end user experience drastically.
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Unfortunately thats not gonna happen, but we have the option to install a custom ics launcher like nova launcher or trebuchet, and enjoy ics but the framework of samsung will be there =(
Gorjess said:
Touchwiz is by far the smoothest launcher for the s2.. The modified 4.5 version is even better..
So ill stick to tw.. Other launchers tends to be battery hungry..
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You see the problem is that any other UI on top of vanilla android is just a wrapper. At an expense. Sense, Motoblur, Tw all consume extra resources. I hear you say, "but our phones have monster resources". True, although unless the interface is offering extra functionality compared to stock, why use a wrapper?
After all the current iteration of android; ICS has proven that as an OS, android has matured in functionality, UX and eye candy. The only reason I use Tw on my phone is cause it enables video calling via the phone, which I hardly every use. Why should I be strongly coupled to Tw just cause I can not get that functionality form stock? I don't know. Here's hoping video calling get implemented in the stock Phone.apk soon...
A lot of people say Launcher pro and other 3rd part launchers are a smooth as TW but its a false smooth. In order to be smooth they must use a high CPU clock speed which chews up the battery. TW uses the GPU to make it fast and smooth. Underclock your CPU to 500mHz and try LP etc. and compare them to TW. TW will still run smooth but 3rd party launchers will stutter.
Initially I didn't like TouchWiz because of its rather iPhone-ish icons which in my opinion looked pretty bad on the original SGS which had an older version of TouchWiz.
After trying it out myself, though, I've gotten used to it and am starting to like it more than LP because of the ability to resize widgets and so on.
Its inevitable that Sammy would include TW into the update of one of their flagship devices. While I do like the original interface of stock ICS I wouldn't mind having TouchWiz in ICS since it was rather pleasant to use in Gingerbread.
If anyone really hates TouchWiz that badly, an AOSP version would be released by CyanogenMod anyways.
I love touch wiz its so cool ..!!
BUt when it comes to ICS
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A lot of people say Launcher pro and other 3rd part launchers are a smooth as TW but its a false smooth. In order to be smooth they must use a high CPU clock speed which chews up the battery. TW uses the GPU to make it fast and smooth. Underclock your CPU to 500mHz and try LP etc. and compare them to TW. TW will still run smooth but 3rd party launchers will stutter.
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Indeed, but with ics the ui is hardware accelerated so the advantage of tw is lost
unless they make a real improvement from the leaked alpha to final, its almost certain that ill stick with cm9 when the time comes....
crobat said:
Initially I didn't like TouchWiz because of its rather iPhone-ish icons which in my opinion looked pretty bad on the original SGS which had an older version of TouchWiz.
After trying it out myself, though, I've gotten used to it and am starting to like it more than LP because of the ability to resize widgets and so on.
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i personally use adw ex and its pretty good no lags, lacks some tw options but have plenty of room for customization, and goes great with ics 1.6 theme by the great vert XD
i like TouchWiz when its gingerbread........
but i like ics framework and launcher than TW4.....
so i want to install ics launcher and frameworks very badly.......
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Unfortunately thats not gonna happen, but we have the option to install a custom ics launcher like nova launcher or trebuchet, and enjoy ics but the framework of samsung will be there =(
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CM9 anyone?
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AOSP all the way for me. I'm looking forward to the necessary code being ripped from the Samsung "release" and being applied to the Nexus build. I've always much preferred to start with the basic AOSP experience and then build from there up.
As for the comments about GPU acceleration, this is not something new that is being brought about by ICS. GPU acceleration is an option that developers can enable in their apps when they build them. It needs nothing more than a value being set to true in a manifest file. The only difference between GB and ICS is that it is on by default in ICS.
You can't say that existing launchers don't use GPU unless you've decompiled the apk and checked. My guess is that any developer worth their salt would know this, and would be using GPU acceleration already.
Trebuchet launcher:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4s2EVdvKeY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396647
For the AOSP lovers like me hehehe folow the link and lets help supercurio lets make the diference xD
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TW is the only launcher i've tried so far that maintains iOS-like smoothness on full widget/shortcut load over 5 pages. Everything else either skip frames or just plain stutters in this task.
and dont even get me started on the yet unmatched spectrum of hardware video codec support that the TW framework provides.
This is not a comparision thread...just wanna know what the good people one the Nexus 4 is running whether its Stock or custom so lets go...how you got your beast set up and with what kernel and launcher???
Me its PA rom...Franco Kernel...Nova launcher Prime....= Flawless
Stock ROM, Apex Launcher Pro and franco kernel.
I have tried motley, trinity and faux, but franco seems to work best with my settings.
Check signature.
Launcher is Nova Launcher Prime as well. Make sure you go into Nova Settings and update to the latest, huge speed bonuses in beta version!
KyraOfFire said:
Stock ROM, Apex Launcher Pro and franco kernel.
I have tried motley, trinity and faux, but franco seems to work best with my settings.
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+1 Franco is the man
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+1 Franco is the man
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Totally agree. I am more amazed by the stability of the kernel than the (already impressive) better life.
Speaking about Apex... just saw this on twitter new update from apex.
basically does the same thing Nova Launcher Beta does, merges 4.2 sources
New permissions are required to import data from other launchers.
* Merged changes from Android 4.2
* Option to change icon size
* New Apex action to expand quick settings
* Import desktop data from other launchers
* Improved theme support
* Added dock swipe gesture on folders (pro)
* Added support for Next Honeycomb LWP
* Fixed shortcut picker for Android 4.2
* Fixed TouchWiz widget issues
* Various bug fixes and optimizations
* Updated translations
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zephiK said:
Speaking about Apex... just saw this on twitter new update from apex.
basically does the same thing Nova Launcher Beta does, merges 4.2 sources
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import data from other desktop is pretty neat....apex looking to be a real contender...
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import data from other desktop is pretty neat....apex looking to be a real contender...
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Nova already had this feature. I came from Apex, saw Nova Launcher Prime on sale for like $1 or something. Bought it, opened it and i was like whaaaaaaaaat?! import?! and it ported all of my widgets and app locations to Nova.
Personal story =>
I used Apex since version 0.3. It was featured in the first custom ROM I ever flashed (an early ICS port for the abandoned HTC G2). There wasn't any alternative anyways, stock launcher didn't work at all. Then I bought it when it came out of beta to support the devs.
I already spent my money there, and it works, and I am the kind of guy who doesn't want to change an old habit unless necessary. So... unless Android Does do a Federico Carnales, I will probably keep milking my well-spent $4
Nova does seem to work better and have higher user satisfaction though.
Edit: I bought Launcher Pro too. Abandoned software/hardware is not something unusual, but Federico Carnales really is a shame.
KyraOfFire said:
Personal story =>
I used Apex since version 0.3. It was featured in the first custom ROM I ever flashed (an early ICS port for the abandoned HTC G2). There wasn't any alternative anyways, stock launcher didn't work at all. Then I bought it when it came out of beta to support the devs.
I already spent my money there, and it works, and I am the kind of guy who doesn't want to change an old habit unless necessary. So... unless Android Does do a Federico Carnales, I will probably keep milking my well-spent $4
Nova does seem to work better and have higher user satisfaction though.
Edit: I bought Launcher Pro too. Abandoned software/hardware is not something unusual, but Federico Carnales really is a shame.
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I was the same way with ADW EX, except I bought it when it was on sale so I wasn't too phased by it. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either Nova or apex. It just all comes down to where you spend your money towards meaning you're committed. I used to prefer Apex over Nova, I swapped over to Nova when Nova Prime was on a Google sale. That's the only reason why I converted.
ADW EX is back but I still prefer Nova
aokp ftw
AOKP pretty cool...but PA is where its at lol...
Paranoidandroid is King!
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Straight CM10.1 nightlies. Might use the Franco kernel soon.
Stock combo with Nova launcher. Smooth as hell and have no problem doing anything
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Bone stock.
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On the latest xylon build. Pretty decent rom but I think that I will jump over to PA once they release their next stable version.:good:
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On the latest xylon build. Pretty decent rom but I think that I will jump over to PA once they release their next stable version.:good:
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The lastest version of PA is extremely stable for me.... N very fast... Smooth and customizable.... I love it.....
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CyanogenMod nightly. Runs very smooth on my device.
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Paranoid Android.
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