I've read on other topics people talking about ics on our gs2, so i decided to create a thread to express opinions
instead of spamming other topics hehehe
So if you want to say twiz is fugly or i like it, this is the wright place for you hehehe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396647
For the ones that seek aosp feeling in sgs2 folow the link and post there hehehe
If you ask me the ics in the s2 looks like a car wreck hehehe its the ugliest thing i've ever seen XD
(bla bla if you hate so much why did u bought a s2? Because it was the best smartphone on the market, and still is one of the best)
Personally I like touchwiz way more than the LG, Motorolla, and HTC overlays. The launcher is the only thing I don't like about it, and that's easily fixed with launcher pro. I personally think the TW stuff adds some nice functionality without causing speed problems. The only thing I wish touchwiz had is the inline spelling correction... other than that it's fine for me.
Thats true, tw introduced a lot of things that were missing on gb, but for the best sammy phone it would be expected something better in aspect, not a expensive android copy of bada os
Business and Marketin Wise:
You can't sell a phone and later with an update, force people to change their entire experience with their phone.
So yes, ICS will have TW similiar to Gingerbread TW, there is no escape from that.
Luckily, unlike Apple users, we have options to "choose" from any launcher, even allowed to install different types of Android distros...
However, what I would like is similiar experience to AOSP launcher especially in App Drawer like Widgets, slides etc.
Touchwiz is by far the smoothest launcher for the s2.. The modified 4.5 version is even better..
So ill stick to tw.. Other launchers tends to be battery hungry..
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Better if samsung provides an option in settings to switch between touchwiz and ics launchers. Default being tw will not change the end user experience drastically.
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Unfortunately thats not gonna happen, but we have the option to install a custom ics launcher like nova launcher or trebuchet, and enjoy ics but the framework of samsung will be there =(
Gorjess said:
Touchwiz is by far the smoothest launcher for the s2.. The modified 4.5 version is even better..
So ill stick to tw.. Other launchers tends to be battery hungry..
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You see the problem is that any other UI on top of vanilla android is just a wrapper. At an expense. Sense, Motoblur, Tw all consume extra resources. I hear you say, "but our phones have monster resources". True, although unless the interface is offering extra functionality compared to stock, why use a wrapper?
After all the current iteration of android; ICS has proven that as an OS, android has matured in functionality, UX and eye candy. The only reason I use Tw on my phone is cause it enables video calling via the phone, which I hardly every use. Why should I be strongly coupled to Tw just cause I can not get that functionality form stock? I don't know. Here's hoping video calling get implemented in the stock Phone.apk soon...
A lot of people say Launcher pro and other 3rd part launchers are a smooth as TW but its a false smooth. In order to be smooth they must use a high CPU clock speed which chews up the battery. TW uses the GPU to make it fast and smooth. Underclock your CPU to 500mHz and try LP etc. and compare them to TW. TW will still run smooth but 3rd party launchers will stutter.
Initially I didn't like TouchWiz because of its rather iPhone-ish icons which in my opinion looked pretty bad on the original SGS which had an older version of TouchWiz.
After trying it out myself, though, I've gotten used to it and am starting to like it more than LP because of the ability to resize widgets and so on.
Its inevitable that Sammy would include TW into the update of one of their flagship devices. While I do like the original interface of stock ICS I wouldn't mind having TouchWiz in ICS since it was rather pleasant to use in Gingerbread.
If anyone really hates TouchWiz that badly, an AOSP version would be released by CyanogenMod anyways.
I love touch wiz its so cool ..!!
BUt when it comes to ICS
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A lot of people say Launcher pro and other 3rd part launchers are a smooth as TW but its a false smooth. In order to be smooth they must use a high CPU clock speed which chews up the battery. TW uses the GPU to make it fast and smooth. Underclock your CPU to 500mHz and try LP etc. and compare them to TW. TW will still run smooth but 3rd party launchers will stutter.
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Indeed, but with ics the ui is hardware accelerated so the advantage of tw is lost
unless they make a real improvement from the leaked alpha to final, its almost certain that ill stick with cm9 when the time comes....
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Initially I didn't like TouchWiz because of its rather iPhone-ish icons which in my opinion looked pretty bad on the original SGS which had an older version of TouchWiz.
After trying it out myself, though, I've gotten used to it and am starting to like it more than LP because of the ability to resize widgets and so on.
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i personally use adw ex and its pretty good no lags, lacks some tw options but have plenty of room for customization, and goes great with ics 1.6 theme by the great vert XD
i like TouchWiz when its gingerbread........
but i like ics framework and launcher than TW4.....
so i want to install ics launcher and frameworks very badly.......
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Unfortunately thats not gonna happen, but we have the option to install a custom ics launcher like nova launcher or trebuchet, and enjoy ics but the framework of samsung will be there =(
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CM9 anyone?
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AOSP all the way for me. I'm looking forward to the necessary code being ripped from the Samsung "release" and being applied to the Nexus build. I've always much preferred to start with the basic AOSP experience and then build from there up.
As for the comments about GPU acceleration, this is not something new that is being brought about by ICS. GPU acceleration is an option that developers can enable in their apps when they build them. It needs nothing more than a value being set to true in a manifest file. The only difference between GB and ICS is that it is on by default in ICS.
You can't say that existing launchers don't use GPU unless you've decompiled the apk and checked. My guess is that any developer worth their salt would know this, and would be using GPU acceleration already.
Trebuchet launcher:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4s2EVdvKeY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396647
For the AOSP lovers like me hehehe folow the link and lets help supercurio lets make the diference xD
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TW is the only launcher i've tried so far that maintains iOS-like smoothness on full widget/shortcut load over 5 pages. Everything else either skip frames or just plain stutters in this task.
and dont even get me started on the yet unmatched spectrum of hardware video codec support that the TW framework provides.
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Is the phone that much faster without Sense? Is it any better on the battery? I like the Sense apps but have thought of switching to vanilla if I can get better battery life and less occasional lag (like its really that bad ).
Just looking for Pros and Cons...Is ADW a good alternative? I tried Launcher Pro and it seemed run slow, maybe because sense was running behind it.
Vanilla is better, but is not fasteror better onbattery.
Launcher pro is the best launcher
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I just prefer vanilla over sense, no technical reason why. Also, I second the vote for LauncherPro.
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I like sense myself..after having trield vanilla and launcher pro..Launcher pro MAY be needing resources a bit more than sense and vanilla.. as these two are built in.. while Launcher pro is an app.
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I like sense myself..after having trield vanilla and launcher pro..Launcher pro MAY be needing resources a bit more than sense and vanilla.. as these two are built in.. while Launcher pro is an app.
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I second this. I just used Sky Raiders 2.2 vanilla and while it was amazing in the battery department it was not all that great in the UI arena IMO. I just missed some of the features that you have with sense.
I prefer sense, mostly because of it's better Exchange integration. I like the tweaks and additional functionality that Sense provides.
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I second this. I just used Sky Raiders 2.2 vanilla and while it was amazing in the battery department it was not all that great in the UI arena IMO. I just missed some of the features that you have with sense.
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I think it was lacking in the ui because it is a mix of vanilla and sense. Some theming will clear that up.
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I really like the 5 buttons on the bottom of Launcher Pro as apposed to the sense bar with 3 buttons. But LauncherPro just didn't seem as smooth with sense running the BG and all I could think about was how it would kill my battery with Sense running all the while I have LauncherPro going.
I run the stock rom with Launcher Pro as my default rom and nandroid backup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill sense and all the non critical supporting processes and apps. My battery life is about the same as before I switched over to this configuration, and my phone does seem to run about as smooth as it did with sense. I have used ADW and a couple others, as well as the stock vanilla android, and I like Launcher Pro the best. I get some stability issues here and there, but LP just restarts and all is well in the world. I also use the Beautiful Widgets clock/weather widget, it may contribute to the occasional force closes, but they'e not frequent enough to concern me.
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I run the stock rom with Launcher Pro as my default rom and nandroid backup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill sense and all the non critical supporting processes and apps. My battery life is about the same as before I switched over to this configuration, and my phone does seem to run about as smooth as it did with sense. I have used ADW and a couple others, as well as the stock vanilla android, and I like Launcher Pro the best. I get some stability issues here and there, but LP just restarts and all is well in the world. I also use the Beautiful Widgets clock/weather widget, it may contribute to the occasional force closes, but they'e not frequent enough to concern me.
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likewise I used to be an avid ATK (Advanced Task Killer) user.. but after having read how android OS works and reading plenty of expert articles.. apparently using a task killer is COUNTER PRODUCTIVE to saving memory and battery.. you can google this if you want.. Android OS has built in file and RAM allocation management systems.. the ATKs will kill a task before it has a chance to shut down itself.. resulting in depletion of resources necessarily.
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Vanilla is better, but is not fasteror better on battery.
Launcher pro is the best launcher
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I agree 100%. Coming from Moto Droid. I am not a big fan of sense. It just seems like there is too much stuff going on. It all depends on how much social integration you like, i.e. Facebook, twitter and so on.
Is there any way to change the bottom bar? I really like the LLP bar, but sense is smoother so I will likely stick with it for the forseeable future.
Hi all. As you might have heard the official Samsung ICS update for our beautiful Note has started rolling out in Europe today. I'm just wondering whether people will be using it or whether they are happy with their custom ICS roms. What are the pros and cons of each?
I'm still on imilka's Cm9 v2, as it works flawlessly on my Note. But I should update soon and want to know what people more experienced than me think (I've only been playing around with flashing for a couple of months)
Thanks
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I m going with Official ICS as I feel that our phone is incomplete without Touchwiz apps like S-Pen, S-memo, etc.
The day I will lose my Stylus, I will jump straight away to CM9. LOL.
CM9 is purely for better performance whereas Samsung ICS is for better user-experience.
I stay with TouchWiz Apps but other Launcher.
I think Nova Launcher is the best Launcher, those Folders and Docks are awesome !
Cyanogen definitely as I don't want this crappy Touchwizz on my Note.
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Cyanogen definitely as I don't want this crappy Touchwizz on my Note.
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change the launcher then, there are alternatives out there
TW-Launcher on ICS is smooooooooth as hell but i would miss the custom docks, custom icons and those great folders from Nova Launcher !
Cyanogenmod.
I don't think I will be writing formulas on a phone..........
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CM9 is great, but I also do not wanna miss the Stylus-Apps now even better with Premium Suite...
Official ICS.
I tried a few AOSP roms, but can't live without proper stylus support. I've gotten too used to it.
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change the launcher then, there are alternatives out there
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Why should I have a heavier ROM with useless things when I can have a light ROM smooth and fast and everything I need
How much of a performance difference is there between official ICS with 3rd party launcher and a custom rom? Would you feel this in everyday use?
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I'm sure even without Touchwiz, there will be awesome developers porting Samsung apps over in future. Currently, you can choose both of them to your preference. If you usually take notes and enjoying Sammy's apps then by all means use the stock ICS ROM.
After using imilkas ICS/CM9 and then going back to GB I realised how much lag there was on the note and stock roms... so I guess my question would be...is it as seamless, performance wise, as CM9? (In terms of basic features and performance like swioing between pages and launching apps and transitions ?)
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I'm on CM9 but would like to try the Stock ICS, but that's more because of a compulsive flashing disease I must have. Well in fact I would like to have FM radio app, so that's my excuse for flashing the official ROM. I can always install another launcher like nova and still use Samsung apps anyway ? I mean touchwizz is not just a launcher right, it's a whole framework that's "there" even if i use another launcher ?
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I'm on CM9 but would like to try the Stock ICS, but that's more because of a compulsive flashing disease I must have. Well in fact I would like to have FM radio app, so that's my excuse for flashing the official ROM. I can always install another launcher like nova and still use Samsung apps anyway ? I mean touchwizz is not just a launcher right, it's a whole framework that's "there" even if i use another launcher ?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks for the answer. As I read TW won't work well in tablet mode, I guess even if i use a apex launcher for example, I won't be able to get a working tablet mode with official ICS + apex launcher ?
I think I'll give the official ICS a try before giving my final judgement .
Anybody knows if the euro ics ROMs support RTL (I.e Arabic text)?
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How much of a performance difference is there between official ICS with 3rd party launcher and a custom rom? Would you feel this in everyday use?
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Under GB I tried stock ROM and custom ROMs, the difference between these two kind of ROMs was noticeable.
And I like things clean, so I don't want useles things on my phone.
All ROMs I use are also cleaned by myself using System Tuner Pro and removing all applications I don't use (like Email for example, I only use Gmail, wallpapers, animated wallpapers etc.)
And AFAIK with stock ROM I cannot remove Samsung's crap so CM9 is my best friend.
With OpenDESIGN coming in the next few hours, you'll never say that you miss S-Memo and pen gestures anymore
I've come straight from CM9 and despite the annoyance of Samsung's bloatware I feel that ICS is a lot smoother on the official ROM. The only thing I would like to know is if there is a way to get the stock ICS keyboard. The ones in the Play Store seem to been twatted about with and don't seem to offer the proper ICS autocorrect infrastructure unless I'm mistaken.
It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
Totally agree mate!
Aosp ones are the best...
the only thing i wait is the official jb update so the aosp ones can get sources to built on and also to have the best sammy ones(comparable to aosp since it's jb) ever!
But until then,aosp all the way...
Aokp Liquid and Resurrection for new I use Samy base JB Dragon
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It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
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I used to have a Captivate and ran only AOSP/CM/AOKP roms. I still have it (use it as an mp3 player) and it's awesome.
No on my i9300, I'm using Omega v11. I tried SuperNexus Build 1 and tried a couple of AOSP based rom. I haven't tried later JB roms because I'm concerned with the memory leaks and lack of tv out and stuff like that. The main difference I found is the camera. The Samsung Camera app is very, very good. It is, flat out, superior to the ICS/JB Camera app. Allshare, FM Radio, TV Out, seem usually to be unsupported on AOSP roms (please correct me if I'm wrong).
I think AOSP (and variants) roms are very good. UI is sleaker and they might be a bit more responsive, but I could appreciate a greater difference when I had a Galaxy S with a half baked Touchwiz on it that with the complete monster the i9300 is with a thought out, 3rd or 4th generation Touchwiz. I still use Nova Launcher, because it looks better to me, but I love Smart Stay, TV out is absurdly useful to play n64 games or so with an emulator and a ps3 controller and again, the camera.
I might go back to AOSP roms. I've been looking for a good theme for stock roms, but haven't found one that actually replicates the feeling. However, functionality wise, I think Samsung's Roms are superior.
Excellent thread....Aosp are very responsive and pretty slick....you can feel the new all the advantages of JB.....but as said by monoespacial, the tricks in TW such as smart stay and others are very useful...it'll will be great if one of our outstanding developers in this forum can bake a Rom based on Aosp JB including all the mentionned tweaks.......excellent forum and wonderful community.....thanks.
I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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yeah
they are simple and fast, and can install kernel with oveclock
but:
-no wifi tethering (its important to me)
-some FC
-inferior camera app
-without some features, like smart stay, etc ...
I agree!! Those AOSP or AOKP are excellent in terms of speed and smooth-ness. It also somehow integrate to the Google products better. However, they are often very simple interface with nothing much..
Too bad at this moment, there are still bugs that can't be fixed.
In the future, I will just go and get the original Google Nexus phone... You'll get the latest update first hand and there are less bloatware installed
- Charles
Haven't tried other AOSP rom except CM. Can't wait for memory leak fix on CM10
aosp is fast and slick , i love it but there is no denying the fact samsung has improved the quality of their roms for s3..... aosp vs stock is always been a debatable question where aosp always wins. but with galaxy s3 roms samsung has progressed one step higher.
at the end of the day not only the speed that matters but also the releaibility and functionality...
advatanges of aosp:
* Your mobile is fast and clean.
* More room for multitasking with more memory available.
* Wide variety of themes to choose from.
* aokp and derivative of aosp roms are simply amazing
disadvantages:
* it just makes your s3 like any other mobile that runs aosp. No device specific functions.
* Inferior camera.
* you will never get some features .
hoping to see a bug free cmx soon...................................
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I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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I agree! I started off my rom flashing on a milestone2 and when I got cm7 on it for the first time, I was in love with it. Then I got a g2x which was stock gb all the way too.
Finally I get this sg3 which was a must have and wow, I have used cm 9,10, every other aosp and aokp rom but stock again has more stuff u can't get from others.
I adw, Nova, launcher pro but I just tw all the way. Suits my needs.
I guess the best thing about it is, we could always change it when need be!
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I do like the AOSP / AOKP etc. roms due to their speed, clean base and an intuitive user interface, but some bad things keep me from going to them.
Annoying bugs:
More FC's
Bluetooth works bad with A2DP headphones - choppy sound, interruption etc.
Native USB Tither doesn't work
Overheating compared to stock roms
Some cool things missing from stock roms such as superior camera, video call, smart stay etc.
A lot of minor bugs
Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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true, it would be nice to have new touchwiz features in cmx btw whatever the 3rd party app you use you cant get near to the stock camera app which has fetures like hdr,buddy share and more and adding to the arsenal jb update brings "pause while recording" feature to the camera app. BUt sadly its the price we have to pay for the luxury of aosp
Yeah, I was blown away at the speed of AOSP, the one major disadvantage(in my eyes) is the current memory leak present.
I'm sure that in due time, the AOSP camera will get all those features present on the Sammy camera.
I guess the thing I miss the most from the Sammy ROM was the swipe left to message and swipe right to call. Very useful feature IMO.
can someone confirm if USB tethering works on AOSP?
Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
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Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
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Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
i wish beats audio would work on JB
I agree with all of the above. I love CM and AOKP and their unique set of features and vanilla goodies, but Samsung have really done a number on the S3! I find myself flashing the latest leaks almost straight away. They've just included so many useful features into the OS that I've become reliant on that, while I certainly prefer the vanilla look and speed, I don't want to sacrifice such genuinely useful features for it.
Except S-Voice of course, Lloyd* only knows what convinced Samsung it was going to be of any use to anyone - didn't they try it for themselves first?
Mind boggling to say the least. I do have to say though, the latest AOKP build looks mighty interesting with its tablet UI feature - wonder if it's done in a similar way to ParanoidAndroid?
*Android Central reference :thumbup:
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The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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CM/AOSP/AOKP roms are always very fast. I flash every kind of these Roms. It would be great port some apk files such as Music player, camera, clock, widgets to work on these roms.
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The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
With SGS1 and 2 I used CM until ICS leaks come out, since then it is not worth the performance "difference", comparing with what we loose
First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!
TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!
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It's available in the CM10 thread. I would advise you to read the instructions before flashing CM10, as it is not exactly like flashing a Samsung rom.
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TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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It does make all the difference, more costumizable, doesnt look like iPhone, etc :victory:
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First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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I don't think you get how this works.
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Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
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Couldnt agree with you more. Every phone ive had has been flashed with CM... The gs2 benefits from it but i have to say it. Touchwizz and the features of the stock rom ie; pop out play, motion controls, smoothness etc.. There just isnt the need to switch for me.
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Im using Omega Rom which keeps all the touchwiz features i want but makes it better than stock. Best of Both!
irish-sid said:
I don't think you get how this works.
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TW only problem is the interface, before it might impair performanmce too, but now it is not relevant
Kangburra said:
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
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That's why I love Vertimus and Domination Theme! Best of both worlds, for the most part. We just saw a post that said JB 1.3.1 will be showing up sometime this week.
If you want battery, I would recommand using the FoxHound Rom (0.5 now) with Siyah Kernel (included) plus the STweaks Hardcore3boost. That's what I did and my system is still very smooth.
hykhleif said:
i wish beats audio would work on JB
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Just turn the volume to Max,same with all EQ settings, fill your ears with ground glass and use the cheapest headphones you can find. Viola! The True Beats Experience.
Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.
@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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It's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.
Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.