It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
Totally agree mate!
Aosp ones are the best...
the only thing i wait is the official jb update so the aosp ones can get sources to built on and also to have the best sammy ones(comparable to aosp since it's jb) ever!
But until then,aosp all the way...
Aokp Liquid and Resurrection for new I use Samy base JB Dragon
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It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
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I used to have a Captivate and ran only AOSP/CM/AOKP roms. I still have it (use it as an mp3 player) and it's awesome.
No on my i9300, I'm using Omega v11. I tried SuperNexus Build 1 and tried a couple of AOSP based rom. I haven't tried later JB roms because I'm concerned with the memory leaks and lack of tv out and stuff like that. The main difference I found is the camera. The Samsung Camera app is very, very good. It is, flat out, superior to the ICS/JB Camera app. Allshare, FM Radio, TV Out, seem usually to be unsupported on AOSP roms (please correct me if I'm wrong).
I think AOSP (and variants) roms are very good. UI is sleaker and they might be a bit more responsive, but I could appreciate a greater difference when I had a Galaxy S with a half baked Touchwiz on it that with the complete monster the i9300 is with a thought out, 3rd or 4th generation Touchwiz. I still use Nova Launcher, because it looks better to me, but I love Smart Stay, TV out is absurdly useful to play n64 games or so with an emulator and a ps3 controller and again, the camera.
I might go back to AOSP roms. I've been looking for a good theme for stock roms, but haven't found one that actually replicates the feeling. However, functionality wise, I think Samsung's Roms are superior.
Excellent thread....Aosp are very responsive and pretty slick....you can feel the new all the advantages of JB.....but as said by monoespacial, the tricks in TW such as smart stay and others are very useful...it'll will be great if one of our outstanding developers in this forum can bake a Rom based on Aosp JB including all the mentionned tweaks.......excellent forum and wonderful community.....thanks.
I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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yeah
they are simple and fast, and can install kernel with oveclock
but:
-no wifi tethering (its important to me)
-some FC
-inferior camera app
-without some features, like smart stay, etc ...
I agree!! Those AOSP or AOKP are excellent in terms of speed and smooth-ness. It also somehow integrate to the Google products better. However, they are often very simple interface with nothing much..
Too bad at this moment, there are still bugs that can't be fixed.
In the future, I will just go and get the original Google Nexus phone... You'll get the latest update first hand and there are less bloatware installed
- Charles
Haven't tried other AOSP rom except CM. Can't wait for memory leak fix on CM10
aosp is fast and slick , i love it but there is no denying the fact samsung has improved the quality of their roms for s3..... aosp vs stock is always been a debatable question where aosp always wins. but with galaxy s3 roms samsung has progressed one step higher.
at the end of the day not only the speed that matters but also the releaibility and functionality...
advatanges of aosp:
* Your mobile is fast and clean.
* More room for multitasking with more memory available.
* Wide variety of themes to choose from.
* aokp and derivative of aosp roms are simply amazing
disadvantages:
* it just makes your s3 like any other mobile that runs aosp. No device specific functions.
* Inferior camera.
* you will never get some features .
hoping to see a bug free cmx soon...................................
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I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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I agree! I started off my rom flashing on a milestone2 and when I got cm7 on it for the first time, I was in love with it. Then I got a g2x which was stock gb all the way too.
Finally I get this sg3 which was a must have and wow, I have used cm 9,10, every other aosp and aokp rom but stock again has more stuff u can't get from others.
I adw, Nova, launcher pro but I just tw all the way. Suits my needs.
I guess the best thing about it is, we could always change it when need be!
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I do like the AOSP / AOKP etc. roms due to their speed, clean base and an intuitive user interface, but some bad things keep me from going to them.
Annoying bugs:
More FC's
Bluetooth works bad with A2DP headphones - choppy sound, interruption etc.
Native USB Tither doesn't work
Overheating compared to stock roms
Some cool things missing from stock roms such as superior camera, video call, smart stay etc.
A lot of minor bugs
Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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true, it would be nice to have new touchwiz features in cmx btw whatever the 3rd party app you use you cant get near to the stock camera app which has fetures like hdr,buddy share and more and adding to the arsenal jb update brings "pause while recording" feature to the camera app. BUt sadly its the price we have to pay for the luxury of aosp
Yeah, I was blown away at the speed of AOSP, the one major disadvantage(in my eyes) is the current memory leak present.
I'm sure that in due time, the AOSP camera will get all those features present on the Sammy camera.
I guess the thing I miss the most from the Sammy ROM was the swipe left to message and swipe right to call. Very useful feature IMO.
can someone confirm if USB tethering works on AOSP?
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Do you guys think the GNote will be supported like the Galaxy S II?
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Do you guys think the GNote will be supported like the Galaxy S II?
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MIUI's interface is good. but too many bugs....
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MIUI's interface is good. but too many bugs....
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Honestly the bugs are bearable imo, just some slight imperfections here and there.
Be best to be posting this question in miui forums.
Eg. Miuiandroid, miui.us
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After using the CLIQ, Milestone, SGS, SGSII, Desire Z ... I just want to clarify a few things.
The original stock roms are great but have no root, sometimes lag, lack a few things, and occasionally have poor software for drivers/devices (refer to the Galaxy S and GPS problem).
THE MOST STABLE ROMS are definitely the custom roms for all different devices which still have the original skin (Sense, Blur, TouchWizz) because they fix what was broken and leave what isn't. But those roms usually miss additional functions of other roms (eg wifi calling) and have distasteful ux (Blur).
The the early cyanogen mods and the beta/nightlies are very unstable. Gives you the most powerful features and the latest software, but usually breaks a few things doing it.
The stable CyanogenMod Roms are much better, and they can even get to the same [perfect] stability as the custom roms. Usually there is one or two minor bugs.
MIUI is CyanogenMod but with its own Skin and Applications (Media player, File Explorer, Browser, Theme Engine) which are one of the best (if not THE BEST). MIUI is also like CyanogenMod has two forms: stable and beta.
ALL STABLE MIUI ROMs HAVE perfect stability (from what Ive experienced) so its definitely a notch above Cyanogen. But the Beta roms are usually filled with more bugs and issues than the Cyanogen Nightlies.
My recommendation:
Use "custom roms" basically only kernel changes (root, faster, battery life etc).
When a CyanogenMod (stable) appears use that.
When a MIUI ROM (stable) appears then upgrade to that.
... finally add in the Homescreen and Launcher of your choice.
edit: With the custom roms the S-Pen functionality should be there. But the early CyanogenMod Roms and MIUI ROMs WILL NOT have the feature. But its likely they'll get added in afterwards. To me that's a big deal, and I'll be waiting for a stable MIUI ROM with the S-Pen function
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After using the CLIQ, Milestone, SGS, SGSII, Desire Z ... I just want to clarify a few things.
The original stock roms are great but have no root, sometimes lag, lack a few things, and occasionally have poor software for drivers/devices (refer to the Galaxy S and GPS problem).
THE MOST STABLE ROMS are definitely the custom roms for all different devices which still have the original skin (Sense, Blur, TouchWizz) because they fix what was broken and leave what isn't. But those roms usually miss additional functions of other roms (eg wifi calling) and have distasteful ux (Blur).
The the early cyanogen mods and the beta/nightlies are very unstable. Gives you the most powerful features and the latest software, but usually breaks a few things doing it.
The stable CyanogenMod Roms are much better, and they can even get to the same [perfect] stability as the custom roms. Usually there is one or two minor bugs.
MIUI is CyanogenMod but with its own Skin and Applications (Media player, File Explorer, Browser, Theme Engine) which are one of the best (if not THE BEST). MIUI is also like CyanogenMod has two forms: stable and beta.
ALL STABLE MIUI ROMs HAVE perfect stability (from what Ive experienced) so its definitely a notch above Cyanogen. But the Beta roms are usually filled with more bugs and issues than the Cyanogen Nightlies.
My recommendation:
Use "custom roms" basically only kernel changes (root, faster, battery life etc).
When a CyanogenMod (stable) appears use that.
When a MIUI ROM (stable) appears then upgrade to that.
... finally add in the Homescreen and Launcher of your choice.
edit: With the custom roms the S-Pen functionality should be there. But the early CyanogenMod Roms and MIUI ROMs WILL NOT have the feature. But its likely they'll get added in afterwards. To me that's a big deal, and I'll be waiting for a stable MIUI ROM with the S-Pen function
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In the past 3 days I installed CM7 on a SGS2 and SGS1 and everything went fine and the performance? Simply amazing! Let's not forget the looks.
I tested AnTuTu on the SGS2 @1.4 and got a score of 6346! That's more of what the guy got(6324) @1.6 that the GSMArena 2x performance ICS article showed. Simply great stuff.
There are many GREAT Developers out there. It comes down to stability/performance and personal preferences.
I have been a very satisfied user of Task's GB and now ICS Roms. It seems, however that enhancements to his recent ICS release have stalled. There is some question if any further enhancements will be forthcoming. This is not a terrible thing because the Task "Beginning" ICS release is very stable. On the other hand, I wonder if there is anything out there right now that might improve the way my Tab performs.
With that in mind, I am curious if any of the JB Roms currently in development offer an improved user experience when compared to what I am using now. From what I can tell from reading other threads in this forum, most of the Jellybean releases for the GT7510 still have a few problems, (camera, WIFI, etc.). Is there anything out there that approaches the stability of Task ICS while offering some significant performance enhancements?
I am hopeful that someone with some experience using JB on the GT7510 can offer an opinion.
Thanks in advance.
P7510 owner here so I'll chime in.
For now the benefits of the JB builds don't out weigh the disadvantages associated with the bugs in them. My everyday driver is still the odexed stock rooted ICS. I have Nandroids of CM9 and CM10 builds to putz around with when a new build is built by someone.
Pershoot is going to start concentrating on CM10 though so there should be consistent JB builds soon enough. I would do as I am. Stay on ICS as your daily driver and just keep an eye out on the development scene.
I have been using Maple's AOSP JB rom, and aside from video capture and front facing camera issues, everything is so much better than honeycomb. The only glitches I have encountered besides these are minor screen flicker during boot animation (not during use) and extreme lag when using panorama mode (takes about a minute to process). Since I don't use my camera, this ROM is perfect. Battery life is much better (than honeycomb, at least). Don't have much experience with ICS. Much smoother, and Google now is great. Overall, unless you're a camera heavy user, and the tab has an awful camera, or like Web chats, really no cons.
I'm using this for 2 days now ,0 issues,both cameras work,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32074411
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Depends on your usage.
If you re a Skyper.... Jb roms doesn't fit you. Go for jelly bean ics v6.
Incase you don't use the tab's camera as most of us, and more of a media user, jb is yours. I use my tab for movies during travel time and for books. Jb rom plays even 720p mkv files smoothly. I've never got that performance anywhere.
Incase of stock ics go with a custom kernel with built in tweaks.
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dsafety said:
I have been a very satisfied user of Task's GB and now ICS Roms. It seems, however that enhancements to his recent ICS release have stalled. There is some question if any further enhancements will be forthcoming. This is not a terrible thing because the Task "Beginning" ICS release is very stable. On the other hand, I wonder if there is anything out there right now that might improve the way my Tab performs.
With that in mind, I am curious if any of the JB Roms currently in development offer an improved user experience when compared to what I am using now. From what I can tell from reading other threads in this forum, most of the Jellybean releases for the GT7510 still have a few problems, (camera, WIFI, etc.). Is there anything out there that approaches the stability of Task ICS while offering some significant performance enhancements?
I am hopeful that someone with some experience using JB on the GT7510 can offer an opinion.
Thanks in advance.
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I am one of those that immediately flashed JB AOSP by Maple as soon as it was available, but over the last few months I have grown increasingly dissatisfied with the rom. It's not that the rom is bad, but with the camera still not working and the occasionally bug/glitch that completely locks up my tab when I need it most, I decided a few days ago to go back to one of the ICS roms.
I first went back to Task 650's ics rom which I thought was great, but it seems that development has slowed considerably on that rom, and I could not live with the constant SOD's when charging (for some reason I could not find the "keep awake when charging" setting in the developer options that most other roms have.
So I flashed Ganborous CM9 based rom and I am loving it. Along with the rom, I flashed the Google Now for ICS package, and I also flashed a custom boot animation and now I think this rom is perfect. I haven't had a SOD (it has the developer option to keep awake), and I haven't had my tab lock-up or crash on me.
Once some more development on JB roms occurs (like Pershoots upcoming CM10 or even an update from Maple when/if he gets his Tab fixed) I may go back, but for now I atleast have a rock solid ICS rom with Google Now working.
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I'm AOKP ICS and my tab runs great, no camera's but it's a tablet and I don't use it for the camera. I think mine is milestone 4 and CPU set at 1000 Max 912 Min, I think its 912.
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I could love with the Job rooms if the rear camera didn't work because I don't take pictures with my tab, but not having a front came means that I can't use my tab to video chat or Skype.
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I was a task 14 rom user myself then I made the big jump to aokp milestone 6. Hooked since. My sgs4g is on aokp as well with working camera, love what team kang are doing.
How many of you have taken the plunge to aosp and how many are staying on touchwiz? Reply with what rom you are on, if you have done the LOKI patch and why you made that choice.
I am on tw still because I have no real needs that aosp can give me (yet) though I feel I might dive into using slimbean later today bc of my flashaholic ways since my dell streak 5 days.
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How many of you have taken the plunge to aosp and how many are staying on touchwiz? Reply with what rom you are on, if you have done the LOKI patch and why you made that choice.
I am on tw still because I have no real needs that aosp can give me (yet) though I feel I might dive into using slimbean later today bc of my flashaholic ways since my dell streak 5 days.
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Or.. You know.. You can make an actual poll in the thread as opposed to having people comment on it.
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Or.. You know.. You can make an actual poll in the thread as opposed to having people comment on it.
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I know started it on my phone though...Polls now openedm
There we go! Thanks.
Now onto the point, I would go with touchwiz. I just change the crappy launcher. My problem with AOSP/AOKP is that there is always a problem with something small but for some users its a big problem. For example with Task650's rom for the galaxy s3, it took forever to get bluetooth to work properly. And one update killed it again. By bluetooth I mean connecting it in car/other devices and using it for voice/audio.
It just never feels as fluid as a stock rom.
aosp is smooth and lag free but it lacks some features that differentiates samsung phones from the rest. camera will be completly basic, all the gestures and such will be gone, and so on. the only way to retain them and have a smooth experience is to use a custom launcher, like nova or apex.
Just remember these:
AOSP - be ready for some small bugs (always) Faster roms though. I need bluetooth, and it was a nightmare to keep this working.
TW - stable.
Ran aosp for along time and was the roms of choice. Nit picking annoying bugs drove me away, I use my phone for business, and asop can not hold up.
My opinion Only!
AOSP all day.
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Just remember these:
AOSP - be ready for some small bugs (always) Faster roms though. I need bluetooth, and it was a nightmare to keep this working.
TW - stable.
Ran aosp for along time and was the roms of choice. Nit picking annoying bugs drove me away, I use my phone for business, and asop can not hold up.
My opinion Only!
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Agree 100%!
AOSP will get my vote over TW every time. :good:
I ran AOSP/CM on all my phones up until now. The S4 and it's features are unique. The phone is fluid and smooth using nova prime. I've never had lag from the moment I got my phone. Never thought I'd say this but I'm content as of now with touchjizz. Finally having options for kernels and Nottach's module along with xposed framework this phone has been and absolute Stunner IMO. Best phone I've ever had hands down.
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I ran AOSP/CM on all my phones up until now. The S4 and it's features are unique. The phone is fluid and smooth using nova prime. I've never had lag from the moment I got my phone. Never thought I'd say this but I'm content as of now with touchjizz. Finally having options for kernels and Nottach's module along with xposed framework this phone has been and absolute Stunner IMO. Best phone I've ever had hands down.
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My thoughts exactly. With Nottach's xposed mod, I can make this this look as cool as any ROM. Nova Launcher and widget locker and jellybean keyboard from the market make sure I never see a trace of touchjizz. Except when I go into settings, but I can live with that since I have activity shortcuts to data usage and battery info. Dealing with on/off small issues with Bluetooth, mhl, camera, etc on cm10 just wore me down on my GS2.
I don't have the time that I used to to keep on top of which nightlies work and which ones have weird bugs. Now that things just seem to work, I think I can be happy.
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Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.
@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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It's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
jetbruceli said:
Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.
Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.
Hi everybody
After flashing rom 5.1.1 from [HLTE/TMO/SPR/VZW][ROM][CM12.1][5.1.1_r26] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL Build v18.4, i can't find anything relates s pen, s note, air command. It means that i can use s pen function. Can anyone tell me : does 5.1.1 support s pen?
Thanks so much.
Regards.
All im gonna say is wow !!!
sorry, i don't understand what your mean ?
no you can't use spen with cm roms, you may need to download third party apps or any mods, like trying to install moded spen air command.
He thought maybe Samsung made cm.
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Support? Yes and No. Cyanogen Mod supports S Pen with some apps, honestly I have no interest about CM and stuffs, but you can ask on that particular ROM's thread which apps you might use as replacement to S Note and all that. And by no I mean the integration is nowhere near as flawless as it is on TouchWiz based ROMs, but then again that's quite normal.
MINH19051991 said:
Hi everybody
After flashing rom 5.1.1 from [HLTE/TMO/SPR/VZW][ROM][CM12.1][5.1.1_r26] Temasek's UNOFFICIAL Build v18.4, i can't find anything relates s pen, s note, air command. It means that i can use s pen function. Can anyone tell me : does 5.1.1 support s pen?
Thanks so much.
Regards.
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Let me explain.
The official firmware made by Samsung is called TouchWiz, and there are ROMs based on it, and all of the functionality of the device is kept by flashing such a ROM.
Downsides: as much as the developers here making TouchWiz ROMs are trying, TouchWiz' innate lag is close to impossible to deal with, and people who cannot simply stomach that, flash AOSP ROMs.
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project: code provided by Google themselves, which allows developers to create a ROM based off pure Android.
Which means that when you flash an AOSP ROM (Cyanogenmod, Tema's version of CM, Resurrection Remix, Slim, etc.), you are flashing a ROM that basically turns your device into a Nexus.
Nexus phones don't have S-Pen.
Pure Android doesn't support it.
Anything you found on TouchWiz as functionality CAN be achieved to some extent on an AOSP ROM by flashing various mods and installing apps and frameworks and whatnot, but it will not work as well as on TouchWiz.
So my suggestion is that if you use S-Pen regularly, you will want it with it's full functionality, and for that you find a TouchWiz based ROM, we have a couple of good ones. AryaMod, Audax, various ports of the Note 4 and Note 5...
If you go AOSP on the other hand, your phone will be A LOT faster and more responsive, but you will find a hard time restoring some S-Pen functionality with it.
Yeah, well let me state some FACTS here as well, in case some amateur completely misses the main flaw in the above post.
Yes, TouchWiz lags, that's beyond any question, but who said flashing a Cyanogen ROM turns your device to a Nexus phone? That's beyond ridiculous! AOSP is great, fast, stable, as good as Android could and should be. But Cyanogen isn't that! It's based on AOSP, but with plenty of bugs, and not tiny bugs either. I don't have any time or interest about pointing them out, but just Googling will reveal them.
A Nexus is a Nexus, which runs on naked Android without any sort of customisation whatsoever, which is called AOSP. A Cyanogen port can never have same stability or bug free nature like a AOSP ROM, N E V E R. Now I honestly don't care if some troll or fanboy comes and say there are no bugs, well that's as usual hilarious. You have to have use a stable and bug free thing first to notice or comment on which are bug free, which are not, LOL!
This is the actual sum up:
TouchWiz: Stable, slow, laggy sometimes (when people say the lag is impossible to bear, well that's when you should find your dictionary and look up for the word 'exaggerate'), but with every feature possible, needless to say S Pen integration is excellent.
Cyanogen mod/ or any AOSP port: Turn your Note 3 to something other than Note 3. ROM will be faster than TouchWiz, but again, it's not that fast that it would make a world's difference, and you lose all the Samsung features, and some of them are quite important ones, and there are bugs, some of them are quite important as well, like poor call quality or degraded photo/ video quality! But then again there will always be people who don't call form their "mobile phone" or snap any photos, and then there is the S Pen. But look at the bright side, you can now scratch your ear with it.
At the same time, I would prefer if Samsung moves to clean Android like Motorola or Sony, keeping some of their useful apps like S Note, Messaging an Dialler app etc., cause there is no real point of having a totally heavy kinda skin on top of Android when the main Android is pretty good itself. They can add a bunch of apps, they don't necessarily need to add a whole framework for that.
Thanks everybody so much i choosed tazzy-audora rom. This is great rom