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Looking for Advice - I REALLY want the SIII

I was hoping to get some creative ideas on how I can get my hands on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy SIII. I am eligible for an upgrade on 5/13/13 but I would love to hear about possible workarounds that could get me that phone a lot earlier.

You can buy It off someone here that wants the dev edition
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Buy it for full price.
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Sell your kidney on the black market then buy one.
Hey you said creative!!!!!

This has probably been stated before but you could invent a time machine and travel into the future where your contract is up and then get the S3. Then travel back with your new S3 ready to use.

animal7296 said:
Sell your kidney on the black market then buy one.
Hey you said creative!!!!!
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I thought you're only allowed to do this for the iphone

Sell your current phone and buy a new one full price from your carrier.
Alternatively, buy a used one from someone here on xda who will inevitably feel the need to upgrade to the Developer Edition, despite us having custom kernels and custom ROMs working on our consumer models.
I wouldn't trust Craigslist, I've seen quite a few threads about stolen phones bought on Craigslist getting blacklisted.

tonysunshine said:
I thought you're only allowed to do this for the iphone
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No your thinking "brain"
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Not sure about in the US but up here in Canada with our retarded 3 year contracts heres what I did (not my first time). I get a second phone line on a new contract for the new phone, do a number swap ($20 carrier charge) post on Kijiji (craigslist) looking for someone to take over my contract (carried the 2 phones for a total of 6 days). I just got rid of my Galaxy S2 (i9100) NOT LTE or HD that was on 2 1/2 contract by paying someone $50 to take over the contract. I would have gotten $300 or less for the phone outright which is no wheres near the cost of the S3 outright or the early term on my old contract ($550). The time before that I had an iPhone 4 with 18 month contract left on Rogers I was looking for someone to take over and them pay me for it (asked $75), they just wanted the contract (no idea why) so they took over the 18 month contract for free and left me with a iPhone 4 off contract I turn around and sold for $350.

If you're not under contract with Verizon and really just want the S3 I'd say look at other providers if you're into or want to at all mod your device - load custom roms and such...The VZW S3 BL is locked down, but if you have to stay with VZW, dont bother using your upgrade, buy the Dev edition...yea it costs full price but it'll for sure have a better resale value later on as opposed to the locked one, if you just want the phone and are fine with touchwiz then just buy it at a store.

If you're on a family plan, use another lines upgrade?

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You can buy It off someone here that wants the dev edition
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I'd be willing... but I am certainly not trying to pay the full $599. I'd really want it for the subsidized price.

aNYthing24 said:
If you're on a family plan, use another lines upgrade?
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I do have a family plan but won't I have to still pay the monthly... eventually I would pay for it after some time, right?

JackStorm said:
I do have a family plan but won't I have to still pay the monthly... eventually I would pay for it after some time, right?
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I was under the impression you can transfer upgrades on Verizon.

aNYthing24 said:
I was under the impression you can transfer upgrades on Verizon.
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you can

This was discussed quite a bit in the Verizon Pre-Order thread ...
Add a line and get the SIII. Then, call Verizon Customer Care and downgrade the line to a feature phone (which you probably already have lying around or can purchase for minimal outlay) with no add-ons. Then, switch the SIII to your current line, which I presume already has a data package attached to it.
[Another poster told VCC that the phone was originally for his grandmother, but that she was overwhelmed by the smartphone and preferred a barebones phone.]
Surprisingly, Verizon will allow you to both keep the phone and downgrade the new line. I know, I know ... it defies reason. But apparently, it has been done. In any event, you are stuck with the additional line and all associated costs (.. $9.99+fees/month ..) for the duration of the two year contract.
If you do the math, the cost of a subsidized SIII 32gb obtained this way (over the two year contract period) = $249 + ($9.99/month)(24) = $489, and with taxes/fees/surcharges, will likely end up well over $500. In all reality, you should be able to find one for outright sale for about the same amount.
Or, better yet, wait until the quadcore version becomes available.

pdinphx said:
This was discussed quite a bit in the Verizon Pre-Order thread ...
Add a line and get the SIII. Then, call Verizon Customer Care and downgrade the line to a feature phone (which you probably already have lying around or can purchase for minimal outlay) with no add-ons. Then, switch the SIII to your current line, which I presume already has a data package attached to it.
[Another poster told VCC that the phone was originally for his grandmother, but that she was overwhelmed by the smartphone and preferred a barebones phone.]
Surprisingly, Verizon will allow you to both keep the phone and downgrade the new line. I know, I know ... it defies reason. But apparently, it has been done. In any event, you are stuck with the additional line and all associated costs (.. $9.99+fees/month ..) for the duration of the two year contract.
If you do the math, the cost of a subsidized SIII 32gb obtained this way (over the two year contract period) = $249 + ($9.99/month)(24) = $489, and with taxes/fees/surcharges, will likely end up well over $500. In all reality, you should be able to find one for outright sale for about the same amount.
Or, better yet, wait until the quadcore version becomes available.
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did this in-store for a bionic. Be warned that the etf for the new line is $350 though
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animal7296 said:
Sell your kidney on the black market then buy one.
Hey you said creative!!!!!
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He did say S3 and not an iPad, didn't he?

your carrier isnt just gonna cradle your balls
only real way is to buy one out right whether used or new
i shelled out for mine

I got my Hercules and my g2 off eBay
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Motofail Strikes Again with Trade in Offer

So here is the link with the details of the trade in offer. Being on AT&T, the only option is an Atrix HD. The problem is, that came out with a price point of $50. Amazon and Best Buy now have it listed for free with a contract renewal. So once again, we just got another slap in the face.
It is tempting to get a free Atrix HD and slap the Razor Maxx battery in it though...saw that in their forum. I also saw in their forum that they have finally rooted it but are still working on the bootloader...get that done and it is tempting.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/1...-smartphone-and-you-may-qualify-for-100-back/

F U Motorola. I'm so getting the next Nexus device.
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Read more closely, you get a $100 Motorola Visa Prepaid Card for using the trade-in program. So you can either get it from Amazon for free or get it from AT&T for $99 and use the $100 rebate. Either way you end up even as far as money spent. That being said, AT&T won't keep the Atrix HD at $99 forever, so you can probably make a little money on that offer if you aren't dying to do it today.

AtrixMarshall said:
So here is the link with the details of the trade in offer. Being on AT&T, the only option is an Atrix HD. The problem is, that came out with a price point of $50. Amazon and Best Buy now have it listed for free with a contract renewal. So once again, we just got another slap in the face.
It is tempting to get a free Atrix HD and slap the Razor Maxx battery in it though...saw that in their forum. I also saw in their forum that they have finally rooted it but are still working on the bootloader...get that done and it is tempting.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/1...-smartphone-and-you-may-qualify-for-100-back/
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No fcking way i'll get another unsupported-locked-closed-unupdateble motorola device

Geez wow great, a rebate that doesn't include my Canadian Bell Atrix 4G

Hmmm... Wait 6-8 weeks to get my $100? Worse yet... to find out that because of some obscure rule or something I don't qualify because I'm bald and I am stuck with a phone I had to pay for when I could have maybe gotten something better like a Sammy 3?
Thanks for the offer but no thanks. If maybe they had a unit that was competing head to head with the HTC1X or the SG3, then maybe I'd consider it.

What a bunch of worthless clowns, they're merely guaranteeing 100$ from Clover Wireless, a company that buys used phones and reconditions them for resale. You can send your phone to them at any time for trade in value.
Or, you could sell it on Craigslist.
In addition you don't get the phone unless the phone is active on your account at the time of purchase of the new phone.

Finally Atrix2 is abandoned too.. Check Motorola forum...
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rancur3p1c said:
What a bunch of worthless clowns, they're merely guaranteeing 100$ from Clover Wireless, a company that buys used phones and reconditions them for resale. You can send your phone to them at any time for trade in value.
Or, you could sell it on Craigslist.
In addition you don't get the phone unless the phone is active on your account at the time of purchase of the new phone.
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Don't forget that this new phone will probably come with its bootloader locked tighter than San Quentin during a riot. But I'm sure we can count on Motorola to keep the OS current.
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Sorry. Couldn't resist.

or just sell it for $180 on craigslist for cold hard cash

Finally Atrix2 is abandoned too.. Check Motorola forum... <br />
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One update only for Motofail. LOL..
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Atrix 2 got dropped already after one update? Not surprised. The Atrix HD doesn't look impressive with it's 1GB RAM, not when other phones are out with 2GB RAM. I'm not sure how future-proof it will be, but then again, it looks like Motorola is turning these things into disposable devices, despite the 2 - 3 year contracts.

RaiderDuck said:
Don't forget that this new phone will probably come with its bootloader locked tighter than San Quentin during a riot. But I'm sure we can count on Motorola to keep the OS current.
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Sorry. Couldn't resist.
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but but but I thought motorola was going to start unlocking their bootloaders????

rancur3p1c said:
What a bunch of worthless clowns, they're merely guaranteeing 100$ from Clover Wireless, a company that buys used phones and reconditions them for resale. You can send your phone to them at any time for trade in value.
Or, you could sell it on Craigslist.
In addition you don't get the phone unless the phone is active on your account at the time of purchase of the new phone.
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The business concept for mobile phones is to make people think they are disposable products. Device makers working with carriers to ensure a mutual benefit; make a device with a 1-2 year life span, claim a price 10 times what it cost to make, sell it for double what it cost to make ($50-$200) with a minimum 2 year contract then just before the contracts start giving out (18 months) stop issuing updates to persuade people they need to trade in their old device which is still viable. Set up a trade-in program, refurbish for $0-$20 a device, turn around and sell it used for another $50-$100.
Pretty sweet deal if you ask me considering both the device makers and the carriers all win big off of consumers.
As for the actual cost of a device, take the iPhone 5 for an example. 64gb device costs $399 for a 2 year contract and the 32gb version costs $299 with the same contract? Wow...that better be by far the fastest, most incredibly efficient 32gb of $100 memory considering I paid $90 for an OCZ Agility 3 64gb drive nearly a year ago. The whole process is nothing more than gouging the consumer and borderline price fixing/oligopoly both of which the Telcom industry has not only been notorious for but so notorious that the Bell System/ATT antri trust agreement with the Feds that occurred back in the early 80's only recently ended.

rancur3p1c said:
but but but I thought motorola was going to start unlocking their bootloaders????
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LOL. But did they say when? Actually, there was some "development device" they were marketing, but the only thing I saw that made it a development device was an unlockable bootloader and lack of warranty and nothing on a hardware level access (serial/JTAG/ICSP) or documentation level.

lehjr said:
LOL. But did they say when? Actually, there was some "development device" they were marketing, but the only thing I saw that made it a development device was an unlockable bootloader and lack of warranty and nothing on a hardware level access (serial/JTAG/ICSP) or documentation level.
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My dad has an iPhone 3GS. Old device.. and he's running iOS 6!!!!
I can't believe Motorola left us out in the cold again. I had a Motorola Cliq. I should have learned my lesson, but noooo... I had to go back to them.
Meanwhile, my other phone (a Galaxy Note) receives so many updates a month I actually have to choose which ones I want to apply.
Motorola: NEVER AGAIN.

lehjr said:
LOL. But did they say when? Actually, there was some "development device" they were marketing, but the only thing I saw that made it a development device was an unlockable bootloader and lack of warranty and nothing on a hardware level access (serial/JTAG/ICSP) or documentation level.
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Hey man I'm not saying I believed it or anything.

Actually...there's not many phones with 2GB of ram. IMO...Atrix HD is a nice phone with nice performance.
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Have not read all of the details but how about do the trade in for Atrix HD with ATT and get the $100 from Moto. Before 30 days is up, you can go back to att and trade the HD in for SGIII or other phone. Will Moto know any different? Just saying.

e07015 said:
Have not read all of the details but how about do the trade in for Atrix HD with ATT and get the $100 from Moto. Before 30 days is up, you can go back to att and trade the HD in for SGIII or other phone. Will Moto know any different? Just saying.
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We have a winner

Just got my s4....

And paid a lot for it.... but very impressed. Can't believe sprint was only offering 100 buy back for the s3. Anyone know how to remove the slighty corny life companion logo on the lock screen?
Forgive noobness, have owned for 5 hours
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Settings>my device> lock screen> widgets> Edit personal message.
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There is a clear box around the word Life Companion, if you slide it down there is a Lil pen icon. Select that and you can edit it right from the lock screen.
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RealTic said:
And paid a lot for it.... but very impressed. Can't believe sprint was only offering 100 buy back for the s3. Anyone know how to remove the slighty corny life companion logo on the lock screen?
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I have no idea why anyone would do the buyback program with Sprint - they completely rip you off on the price. (Not saying that in a flaming way, blaming Sprint for that one)
I just put my S3 with my two cases for it on Craigslist for 320 bucks, sold it in a day, and bought the S4 with the cash. Basically a free trade ahaha. You gotta remember that the S3 is still (I don't about about exactly right now) like 600+ dollars off contract so people buying a phone of Craigslist (usually don't have their upgrade) are down to pay decent money.
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inlineboy said:
I have no idea why anyone would do the buyback program with Sprint - they completely rip you off on the price. (Not saying that in a flaming way, blaming Sprint for that one)
I just put my S3 with my two cases for it on Craigslist for 320 bucks, sold it in a day, and bought the S4 with the cash. Basically a free trade ahaha. You gotta remember that the S3 is still (I don't about about exactly right now) like 600+ dollars off contract so people buying a phone of Craigslist (usually don't have their upgrade) are down to pay decent money.
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Yeah I didn't sell it. I'm keeping it for experimentation lol. I'm going to see how much the s3 processor can endure, might sell it.
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inlineboy said:
I have no idea why anyone would do the buyback program with Sprint - they completely rip you off on the price. (Not saying that in a flaming way, blaming Sprint for that one)
I just put my S3 with my two cases for it on Craigslist for 320 bucks, sold it in a day, and bought the S4 with the cash. Basically a free trade ahaha. You gotta remember that the S3 is still (I don't about about exactly right now) like 600+ dollars off contract so people buying a phone of Craigslist (usually don't have their upgrade) are down to pay decent money.
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Can you really expect Sprint to give a bigger credit for more than what they are selling the phone for with a contract? Only the iphones get more than what the contract price is.

titans1187 said:
Can you really expect Sprint to give a bigger credit for more than what they are selling the phone for with a contract? Only the iphones get more than what the contract price is.
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No not at all, the point of my post had nothing to do with that lol, that would be a waste on Sprint's part.
I read his post as saying he had turned it in for 100 and I was saying that's ridiculous how the OP actually sold it for that little and actually participated in that buyback program. But I didn't want it to come off as rude(wasn't trying to be) so I just added that it was Sprint's fault for promoting such a ****ty deal in the first place.
But guess he didn't, so no worries for him :thumbup:
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wow, didn't realize the s3 still sold for that much!
yeah... thats how sprint makes money of people, buy back for 100? insane!

ltzmu4h said:
wow, didn't realize the s3 still sold for that much!
yeah... thats how sprint makes money of people, buy back for 100? insane!
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Yep...sold mine for $375.

Best buy offered me almost 300 for it, they have a mobile store a few blocks from here
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SWEET! Thanks to this post I'm putting my S3 on Craigslist instead of eBay. I put my laptop on Craigslist a couple of months ago and kept getting low-balled ($50-$150), but on eBay it sold or $327... of course the only bad part about eBay is they took like $25 of commission lol. Hopefully Craigslist works out and I can get my S4 sooner than expected, thanks!

Price dropping and Resell value

So what started off as a 500$ unlocked (16gb) to 400$ and now to 300$ all in 5 months. [August Release Date]
What sort of resell value are we looking at before the Moto X2 comes out around august?? Im only curious because I would like to purchase this moto x unlocked phone now for 300 and sell around July/August.
At this rate, its looking like ~100$-125$? What do you guys think?

You should not consider a smartphone as an investment. It depend on how much more discount Google will give it. If the price stay the same, I would say if you keep it mint, my guess is $240.
You couldn't even buy a mint (international) Galaxy S2 for $125 and its 3 years old.

unk3 said:
So what started off as a 500$ unlocked (16gb) to 400$ and now to 300$ all in 5 months. [August Release Date]
What sort of resell value are we looking at before the Moto X2 comes out around august?? Im only curious because I would like to purchase this moto x unlocked phone now for 300 and sell around July/August.
At this rate, its looking like ~100$-125$? What do you guys think?
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Probably around $250 if you keep it in good condition.
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I just sold my black Verizon branded x on swappa for $290. That right there bad for the $299 unlocked motomaker I just ordered.

eksasol said:
You should not consider a smartphone as an investment. It depend on how much more discount Google will give it. If the price stay the same, I would say if you keep it mint, my guess is $240.
You couldn't even buy a mint (international) Galaxy S2 for $125 and its 3 years old.
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I am not looking at this as an investment. I am simply need a temporary to use a 4G/LTE compatible phone because I am using ATT Iphone4s on Tmobile network, which is very spotty due to different bands (And lack of). I will probably look into a top tier phone like S5 or Iphone6 come July. I am just looking to buy one motox new (take care of it) then sell it and have it hopefully cost me 20-30$ a month on average.
Im happy everyones so optimistic that till still be near the 200$ range considering its only $300-330 now. Whats the best way to sell? Craigslist, ebay or Swappa? Thanks guys!

unk3 said:
I am not looking at this as an investment. I am simply need a temporary to use a 4G/LTE compatible phone because I am using ATT Iphone4s on Tmobile network, which is very spotty due to different bands (And lack of). I will probably look into a top tier phone like S5 or Iphone6 come July. I am just looking to buy one motox new (take care of it) then sell it and have it hopefully cost me 20-30$ a month on average.
Im happy everyones so optimistic that till still be near the 200$ range considering its only $300-330 now. Whats the best way to sell? Craigslist, ebay or Swappa? Thanks guys!
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Craiglist only if you carry a Remington 12 gauge for protection, otherwise Swappa is hassle free. You might be able to get a few dollars more from eBay, but they have lots of fees so in the end it's not worth it.
I think you should look to buy a phone as a keeper than just temp use. People have said Moto X feel faster than their Note 3 due to better software optimization. Seems like a waste if you're buying it just to use LTE temporarily.

sicmadek said:
I just sold my black Verizon branded x on swappa for $290. That right there bad for the $299 unlocked motomaker I just ordered.
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And it's a verizon not an unlocked gsm.
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unk3 said:
I am not looking at this as an investment. I am simply need a temporary to use a 4G/LTE compatible phone because I am using ATT Iphone4s on Tmobile network, which is very spotty due to different bands (And lack of). I will probably look into a top tier phone like S5 or Iphone6 come July. I am just looking to buy one motox new (take care of it) then sell it and have it hopefully cost me 20-30$ a month on average.
Im happy everyones so optimistic that till still be near the 200$ range considering its only $300-330 now. Whats the best way to sell? Craigslist, ebay or Swappa? Thanks guys!
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Why not a moto g?
Also IIRC ebay + paypal fees run about 13% on a phone I think - about $40 on a $300 sale? Swappa is $10 + paypal fees (3%) - about $19.

unk3 said:
So what started off as a 500$ unlocked (16gb) to 400$ and now to 300$...
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It actually started out at $600 for those who just can't wait when a new phone is released. :/ I've sold phones on eBay and Craigslist. As mentioned, you might get a little more from eBay but Craigslist is usually faster. Regarding the shotgun comment, always be sure to meet in a public place and don't give your description until you arrive. Most people are decent and just looking for the item you're selling.
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It's true though that the X has lost more value from release date in 6 months than nearly any other flagship I've ever seen. Yes that's because google and Motorola themselves have dropped the price. But even so, resell value for those who bought on release date has dropped well over 50% in 6 months. That's remarkable. Takes an iPhone about 2 years to lose that much value. Samsung and htc flagships don't drop that fast either, by a long shot.

I'm thinking the major discounts are going to level off...I can't really see Moto selling this phone for less than $300. It's possible it might eventually hit $300 off contract as the standard price, but if you keep your phone in good condition, I would think you would be able to net $200 for it in the summer (so $220-230ish before fees/shipping). That's what I'm hoping at least...

I've never bothered selling an old phone....I gift them to family and friends that have even older phones.
But, based on current prices of the Moto x, I'd say we won't be getting too much selling them used later. I've seen used nexus 4's for almost the same as used Moto x's.....
Guess we'll see later.
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After I got the Moto X, I sold my previous phone (the HTC Rezound) on eBay for $80 (although I included 2 spare batteries, and had it S-OFF with an unlocked bootloader).
That phone was in rough shape, and heavily used. I think $100 will be the absolute minimum the Moto X would go for. A nice, thin 4G phone with great battery life? You won't get $250 in July, but it'll still hold up pretty well.
One problem I see is with bizarro color combinations, and the effect that will have on resale value.

DogzOfWar said:
After I got the Moto X, I sold my previous phone (the HTC Rezound) on eBay for $80 (although I included 2 spare batteries, and had it S-OFF with an unlocked bootloader).
That phone was in rough shape, and heavily used. I think $100 will be the absolute minimum the Moto X would go for. A nice, thin 4G phone with great battery life? You won't get $250 in July, but it'll still hold up pretty well.
One problem I see is with bizarro color combinations, and the effect that will have on resale value.
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Never thought of that. LOL. Moto makers will be a tough sell. They'd have to like the color combination to even consider it. Personally if I saw a wood back phone in the classifieds, I'd be hitting the back button before I read a thing. No matter the price. Lol
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Get a nexus 5. I was one of the first to buy. I just sold it on eBay for 399.95. It cost me about 50 bucks for a few months which basically was tax and shipping. Chances are you'll like it enough to keep it.
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phositadc said:
It's true though that the X has lost more value from release date in 6 months than nearly any other flagship I've ever seen. Yes that's because google and Motorola themselves have dropped the price. But even so, resell value for those who bought on release date has dropped well over 50% in 6 months. That's remarkable. Takes an iPhone about 2 years to lose that much value. Samsung and htc flagships don't drop that fast either, by a long shot.
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Definitely not true. Prior to the price drops, 16GB Moto X's could be found on swappa for roughly 450 dollars. Roughly about the same price on ebay, but I was able to snag a very lucky BIN for $400 for a 16gb back in November.
If you look at the most recent sold listings on swappa, most of them are still in the $350 range, which is plenty good considering they had their huge fire sale for $350 a month ago AND the $300 sale the other day.
Phones that are usually subsidized by the carriers and that are actually POPULAR, like the HTC One or S4, usually sell for much less at this point in time. Look on swappa's listings of sold S4s, they're all low 300s. Granted the phone has been out longer, but that's nearly a 250-300 drop in value. The X's used price hasn't changed very much in comparison, given that Moto dropped the price over 150 dollars over the past couple months.

That my friend is supply and demand. There isn't an abundance of used x's like every other phone yet. I don't even think Motorola sold that many new lol. Up until a few days ago second hand was the only way to get them overseas. Now that's not the case so I still say the prices will drop, but you're still better buying and selling at full price than subsidizing with Verizon or at&t. Especially if you switch every few months.
For the op however, I reiterate... Nexus 5
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kj2112 said:
Never thought of that. LOL. Moto makers will be a tough sell. They'd have to like the color combination to even consider it. Personally if I saw a wood back phone in the classifieds, I'd be hitting the back button before I read a thing. No matter the price. Lol
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Say wut? This might be the only the chance to have a wood grain in your lifetime! Lol. I am knocking on wood come saturday!
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@rbiter said:
Say wut? This might be the only the chance to have a wood grain in your lifetime! Lol. I am knocking on wood come saturday!
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I want my technology to look ...um ....techy.....not like something out of Gilligan's island or spongebob.
But to each their own.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

You can call it techy if you want, I call it mass produced plastic.

Best buy deal for note 5

Looks like best buy is giving best deal on note 5, free wireless charger (the one for S6 not new wireless fast charging one) and $200 gift card on trade in of old smartphone.
Pre ordered mine but they are not shipping early as at&t is doing.
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Looks like I got best deal of all
I got
free wireless charger
a $200 dollar gift card for trade in (my phones value was showing $1, which I purchased on ebay for $30, moto g verizon postpaid)
and a $45 gift card from this deal http://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/sm...e-offer-143828 (I know the deal does not apply but still BB guy went through)
I used cards to pay for 30% down payment and taxes

Ruturaj001 said:
Looks like best buy is giving best deal on note 5, free wireless charger (the one for S6 not new wireless fast charging one) and $200 gift card on trade in of old smartphone.
Pre ordered mine but they are not shipping early as at&t is doing.
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They told me in store that it was actually the fast wireless charger, will need to clarify.

Ordered mine last Friday. For a value of 249.00 its worth the wait.
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Anyone know what kind of limitations there are on the '$200 credit for a smartphone trade in'? I have an old Galaxy S3 and HTC Evo 4G floating around. Would rather not part with my current Moto X when I upgrade to the Note. Would like to keep it around as a test/backup device.

goldenmonkey1 said:
Anyone know what kind of limitations there are on the '$200 credit for a smartphone trade in'? I have an old Galaxy S3 and HTC Evo 4G floating around. Would rather not part with my current Moto X when I upgrade to the Note. Would like to keep it around as a test/backup device.
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I am a Samsung Experience Consultant at a Best Buy and asked the Mobile team at one of my stores the other day about the limitations. As long as the screen is not cracked and it can power on, you will get the $200 gift card. One of them also told me if I didnt have an old smartphone, to just buy their $20 Verizon pre paid LG Optimus Exceed 2 and just trade that in. LOL
OH, one limitation, It cannot be a blackberry... Haha

bugsy said:
They told me in store that it was actually the fast wireless charger, will need to clarify.
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If that's a fast wireless charger then it would be great but by looking at picture of ad it doesn't look so. They have posted SKU number but I have not been able to search anything using those. Previous chargers (which is out of stock) has different SKU, so we can hope.
rsohne said:
Ordered mine last Friday. For a value of 249.00 its worth the wait.
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Yep that's why waiting. :fingers-crossed:
goldenmonkey1 said:
Anyone know what kind of limitations there are on the '$200 credit for a smartphone trade in'? I have an old Galaxy S3 and HTC Evo 4G floating around. Would rather not part with my current Moto X when I upgrade to the Note. Would like to keep it around as a test/backup device.
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Prepaid phone don't work. I think both should work. :good:

Gargamel198024 said:
I am a Samsung Experience Consultant at a Best Buy and asked the Mobile team at one of my stores the other day about the limitations. As long as the screen is not cracked and it can power on, you will get the $200 gift card. One of them also told me if I didnt have an old smartphone, to just buy their $20 Verizon pre paid LG Optimus Exceed 2 and just trade that in. LOL
OH, one limitation, It cannot be a blackberry... Haha
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AT&T is doing $200 off with a smartphone trade in and as long as it meets $10 on their trade in calculator they will give you the money, regardless of if it has a cracked screen. My LG G2 with just a cracked screen is worth $19 according to the calculator, however the headphone jack is busted and cracked so according to the calculator it's worth $0, but if it was JUST a broken screen it would have qualified for the $200.

Gargamel198024 said:
I am a Samsung Experience Consultant at a Best Buy and asked the Mobile team at one of my stores the other day about the limitations. As long as the screen is not cracked and it can power on, you will get the $200 gift card. One of them also told me if I didnt have an old smartphone, to just buy their $20 Verizon pre paid LG Optimus Exceed 2 and just trade that in. LOL
OH, one limitation, It cannot be a blackberry... Haha
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Ohh I bought phone like that but returned after reading conditions, conditions said is should be post paid phone.

Kaboose666 said:
AT&T is doing $200 off with a smartphone trade in and as long as it meets $10 on their trade in calculator they will give you the money, regardless of if it has a cracked screen. My LG G2 with just a cracked screen is worth $19 according to the calculator, however the headphone jack is busted and cracked so according to the calculator it's worth $0, but if it was JUST a broken screen it would have qualified for the $200.
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Yes but at&t told me I have to spend all $200 on accessories (they did not have one for note 5 also) on that day only.

The wireless charger that is being given out is the current non-fast charging pad. If you read the fine print, it specifically has a SKU stated which is the same one being sold in stores currently.
As for the trade-in offer, the phone must be a postpaid type smartphone, and cannot be one that is prepaid or commonly sold on prepaid.

Ruturaj001 said:
Ohh I bought phone like that but returned after reading conditions, conditions said is should be post paid phone.
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Yeah, I got into one of my stores today and asked a mobile lead to verify and he said no, I couldnt trade in a pre paid phone. Guess the other mobile guy I spoke with was wrong.

Does anyone have any suggestions on an easy to find and cheap post paid smartphone?
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Sher The Love said:
Does anyone have any suggestions on an easy to find and cheap post paid smartphone?
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I bought 2 cheap phones, one from swappa.com and one off eBay that qualify for trade in

prjkthack said:
The wireless charger that is being given out is the current non-fast charging pad. If you read the fine print, it specifically has a SKU stated which is the same one being sold in stores currently.
As for the trade-in offer, the phone must be a postpaid type smartphone, and cannot be one that is prepaid or commonly sold on prepaid.
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You are correct regarding the non-fast wireless charger. I stopped back into Best Buy today and they confirmed that I was given bad information initially.

S197Mike said:
I bought 2 cheap phones, one from swappa.com and one off eBay that qualify for trade in
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What phones were they? I feel like there isn't a clear description of what these phones need to be. One best buy told me it has to me the current phone on my contract, another told me it couldn't be older than a galaxy S3.
I have a Moto X 2013 I've had to use as a backup phone a few times. Looks like I would only get about $75-$100 on eBay. I might just trade that in. If I ever need a backup phone again, I'll just buy something for $50.
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Sher The Love said:
What phones were they? I feel like there isn't a clear description of what these phones need to be. One best buy told me it has to me the current phone on my contract, another told me it couldn't be older than a galaxy S3.
I have a Moto X 2013 I've had to use as a backup phone a few times. Looks like I would only get about $75-$100 on eBay. I might just trade that in. If I ever need a backup phone again, I'll just buy something for $50.
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It only has to be worth something, go to bestbuys trade in page and look up any phone you have or wish to buy as trade in. As long as it's worth some sort of trade in value you'll get the full $200. It doesn't not need to be any phone currently on your plan, it does not need to be a phone on your carrier. Just has to be a working smartphone that you'd buy from a carrier "postpaid" basically any phone you'd buy with a 2 year contract. I did this last year for the note 4. I trade in my parents old Verizon Samsung fascinate it was worth 15 then and I got 200. And I have AT&T

do you have to purchase a smart phone plan with this or can you just purchase the phone straight out with a trade in?

svengalis said:
do you have to purchase a smart phone plan with this or can you just purchase the phone straight out with a trade in?
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I'm buying my note 5 outright from bestbuy as well. The best buy employee said yes it can be outright to get the free 200 gift card

S197Mike said:
It only has to be worth something, go to bestbuys trade in page and look up any phone you have or wish to buy as trade in. As long as it's worth some sort of trade in value you'll get the full $200. It doesn't not need to be any phone currently on your plan, it does not need to be a phone on your carrier. Just has to be a working smartphone that you'd buy from a carrier "postpaid" basically any phone you'd buy with a 2 year contract. I did this last year for the note 4. I trade in my parents old Verizon Samsung fascinate it was worth 15 then and I got 200. And I have AT&T
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I bought verizion moto g from ebay, trade in value on best buy is $1, I hope it works.

S197Mike said:
I'm buying my note 5 outright from bestbuy as well. The best buy employee said yes it can be outright to get the free 200 gift card
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I might go for t mobile note 5 if it has same deal.