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which kernel out there is the best right now? in battery life and speed
theres only one that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
I like Trinity but Motley also did very well for me.
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theres only that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
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This^ look at it this way. The nexus allready has great performance, it will handle any game you throw at it. (Unless not optimized for tegra 3) so wht else do you need? A kernel that gives amazing battery life. And what kernel is that..... \l/ TRINITY \l/
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TRINITY without a doubt!!! Fast as hell and almost unbelievable battery life!
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Trinity IMHO....
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battery right now..
speed..
Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
I've got to say for me trinity is the best kernel for the Nexus 7, updated daily and great communication with the dev makes this an awesome kernel. The trinity toolbox app is the icing on the cake.
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Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
Trinity HANDS DOWN its been 3 hours on sleep and ITS still at 100%! + the ridiculous speed along with the power saving features. I may be new to the Nexus 7 scene but this is hands down to godly .
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
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im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
demandarin said:
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
jarjar124 said:
im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
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I've underclocked mines to 1.1ghz also. battery doesn't want to budge from 100% so far..lol. it's barley sipping battery. the UI and browser is fluid n smooth at this underclock. which is a good thing. the real test will come once I play nova3 shortly. if it plays lag free on this lower speed then underclocking is a winner. I set my governor to interactive though. you get better battery life than ondemand. using deadline also. with fsync set to faster.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
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I understand nexus 7 is still infancy, developement wise. its cool. just wondering if those features were included since the option disappeared. I could undervolt or increase voltage on motley kernel. the tkt app would let me do it on THST kernel as the section shows for it. but I like using system tuner for undervolting when I was on motleys kernel. can't wait to see what new features get added. plus once I get my new phone, hopefully there'll be a trinity kernel out for it so I can use tkt app with it. the build is very good.
demandarin said:
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
EDIT: Yes, emailing, tapatalk, browsing for laptop and not finding any, reading news in Pulse and flipboard, tweetcaster and testing slice(s?), gtalk, not heavy usage obviously. Screen wasn't on unless The Seven was used though.
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morfic said:
Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
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what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
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what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
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Expect no less.
I make this thread Instead of having a constant discussion about kernels in the SentinelROM v4.50-CM10.1 thread.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2037363
So when someone ask about kernel in that thread, just link this.
Sentinel196 works hard on his rom and kernel, so why do you change kernel and what kernel did you change to?
What settings do you use?
What app do you use?
Do you play games?
Are you a casual user?
Other?
I´m new to this rom so i´m going to try it completely untouched for at least a week before changing anything.
So that i get a good feel for the performance and battery.
These are good for battery life.
Greenify *ROOT*
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
CPU Spy Plus
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5idmFsb3Nlay5jcHVzcHkucmVhbGdwcCJd
Wakelock detector
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Tesla said:
I make this thread Instead of having a constant discussion about kernels in the SentinelROM v4.50-CM10.1 thread.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2037363
So when someone ask about kernel in that thread, just link this.
Sentinel196 works hard on his rom and kernel, so why do you change kernel and what kernel did you change to?
What settings do you use?
What app do you use?
Do you play games?
Are you a casual user?
Other?
I´m new to this rom so i´m going to try it completely untouched for at least a week before changing anything.
So that i get a good feel for the performance and battery.
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Guys can someone confirm if they can get most wanted to work properly without crashing and also real racing 3
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Kept crashing on me
Rush85 v4 and v5 worked on other games like nova3 etc.
Sentinel kernel that came with rom gave me artificacts and crashes on games
If these issues are fixed then I would definitely want to come back to sentinel rom
Regards
Hey !
I have made some configurations for pegasusq governor. This is incredibly fast for CM based kernel !
(I use Trickster Mod )
I will test battery life
DvWatt said:
Hey !
I have made some configurations for pegasusq governor. This is incredibly fast for CM based kernel !
(I use Trickster Mod )
I will test battery life
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can you test NFS Most wanted and real racing 3 to see if they work with the kernel?
Real Racing 3 works ok ! I'm going to test Need For Speed
EDIT : Works ok !
Nice to see you posting here :good:
I don´t play games my self on my phone, what i need is good idle and screen time.
But a lot of users do, so nice to see you share
N.O.V.A 3 crash with Cyanogen Mod 10.1 and Dorimanx 9.17 , time to try with Sentinel
Used Stock Sentinel Kernel for a while (with Performance governor, i really don't care bout battery ) & felt phone smooth.
Changed to Siyah v4 by Rush ( Curiosity, u see ) & overclocked to 1.4Ghz with Conservative coz for some reason, conservative gave more smoothness than performance .. & phone never felt more smooth :fingers-crossed:
& oh yeah, post 3-4 charging cycles, m gettin 4.5+ hours of screen time with WiFi on most of the time. So m gonna stick to siyah & sentinel for a looong loong time
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Used Stock Sentinel Kernel for a while (with Performance governor, i really don't care bout battery ) & felt phone smooth.
Changed to Siyah v4 by Rush ( Curiosity, u see ) & overclocked to 1.4Ghz with Conservative coz for some reason, conservative gave more smoothness than performance .. & phone never felt more smooth :fingers-crossed:
& oh yeah, post 3-4 charging cycles, m gettin 4.5+ hours of screen time with WiFi on most of the time. So m gonna stick to siyah & sentinel for a looong loong time
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+1.just trying your setting and the rom is awesome. Thanks for your feedback.
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Hi all,
I'm testing the Sentinel rom with the kernel of Slim Bean, for now I'm watching more stability and smoothness.
I have not tested the battery.
@funkateer2, Glad to have Helped you Buddy
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thiagox said:
Hi all,
I'm testing the Sentinel rom with the kernel of Slim Bean, for now I'm watching more stability and smoothness.
I have not tested the battery.
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Interesting
But.. more stability and smoothness? Was it unstable for you and not as smooth as default kernel?
I find that hard to believe.
Tesla said:
Interesting
But.. more stability and smoothness? Was it unstable for you and not as smooth as default kernel?
I find that hard to believe.
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The latest build of SlimBean (5.5-WEEKLY) is very good. With her, I reached more or less 3800 points in Quadrant Standard.
With the Sentinel, I reached around 3100-3300 points.
With Sentinel + Slim Kernel I reached around 3400-3500 points, even that little thing, already demonstrates some improvement.:good:
@thiagox
Ah, you are talking about benchmark.
Whats that got to do with stability and smoothness?
Stability is no fc, no reboots, no hangs.
Smoothness is an overall performance with no lagg/stuttering.
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@thiagox
Ah, you are talking about benchmark.
Whats that got to do with stability and smoothness?
Stability is no fc, no reboots, no hangs.
Smoothness is an overall performance with no lagg/stuttering.
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Really man, I messed up. I traded stability for performance, my apologies!
...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
Elvecio said:
...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
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I am not sure. I flashed the latest Resurrection Remix ROM and the battery life was a lot worse than TW.
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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For me Samsung roms are far more effective.
On CM based roms, i get max 2/3 days with my usage, while on Samsung roms i can get 6 days (once got 7 days of juice )
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My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Thor Kernel gives better battery life than stock SlimBean?
My experience with PA 3.65 based on AOSP was mediocre in terms of battery life. I certainly love it much, much more than TW but I certainly couldn't justify keeping that ROM since it was pretty average with respect to battery. It wasn't like ridiculously bad but certainly 25-30% lesser than what stock TW usually gives me and hence I had to sadly move back to a TW based custom ROM. I am hopeful that eventually AOSP will get closer to TW in terms of battery life because in every other sense I find it better.
I was too upset to see the terrible battery life on Aosp. Only thing that keeps me away from them.
Don't know why they can't match up tw in terms of battery life.
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OmegaBlaze said:
They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
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I'm on cyano official 10.2 and battery life is quite decent but far from the Samsung roms. But I love cyano, and I think that the more drain is worthy.
wtr_dhd said:
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Why thor kernel is banned?
It is really good as you said?
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They already do.
Elvecio said:
...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
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On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
_delice_doluca_ said:
On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
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Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
Elvecio said:
Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
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No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
_delice_doluca_ said:
No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
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Thanks for the interesting reply.
Anyway, I've tried the parameters that you said, but on cm 10.2 the phone freezes in a black screen when is locked. Seems that I solved with a simple step up from 400 to 500 mhz when display is off. Just a report for the users that are reading this
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ive never been able to get good overnight idle drain stats. with TW roms i would lose 3-4% per 8 hrs but aosp i can lose about 12-15%. this is with all sync off
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My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
majko11293 said:
Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
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Why there is no Thor kernel in XDA? Or have my eyes missed it?
please visit Thors own site - Tegra owners.
if you are a lover of android then your experience cannot be complete without experiencing his 'touch' and you need to read through the threads there - his kernels just dont work without following his instructions.
Thread closed as it has already turned into a best rom/kernel thread. It appears that the question has been answered anyways.
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Hey guys..
I am a kind of guy who likes to test all kernels myself to decide which one is best for my usage..
I notice a lot of people using "Hell's Core" kernel on their nexus..
I googled and did not find a english forum for hell's core..
I generally go through the last 3-4 pages of a kernel thread to get to know the issues in that kernel.. but as I cannot do so for hell's core kernel.. I request hell's core kernel users to please mention your issues and expereances of using that kernel..
This can be a good english reference for people wanting to know more about hell's core..
and yeah google translate sucks..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
simms22 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
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Thank you so much for your effort towards helping.. But I think you are a bit confused. I am talking about "Hell's Core" and not ultimate hell's core... For your information if you do not already know, its mentioned in the UHC thread
This Kernel is a rework of Hells-Core !
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Also for you and anybody else the German thread is here -> http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...ss15j-jwr66v-hells-core-b38-19-09-2013-a.html
I've been using it for about 4 days now. I have noticed improved battery life. With regular usage, and not a lot of gaming, it extends the time I need to connect to a charger by about 1.5 - 2 hours (vs stock kernel).
As far as speed goes I haven't noticed any improvement but the nexus 4 is already quite fast. Also the kernel doesn't allow overclocking so you should expect about the same performance as the stock kernel.
I'm using intellidemand cpu governor at 192Mhz min value.
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I've been using it for about 4 days now. I have noticed improved battery life. With regular usage, and not a lot of gaming, it extends the time I need to connect to a charger by about 1.5 - 2 hours (vs stock kernel).
As far as speed goes I haven't noticed any improvement but the nexus 4 is already quite fast. Also the kernel doesn't allow overclocking so you should expect about the same performance as the stock kernel.
I'm using intellidemand cpu governor at 192Mhz min value.
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I would like to try this kernel as well (on NEO 013 now) Is there not a English thread for it? I am running latest PA rom and want to give it a shot, where can I find it?
nixie2121 said:
I would like to try this kernel as well (on NEO 013 now) Is there not a English thread for it? I am running latest PA rom and want to give it a shot, where can I find it?
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I am on pa 3.99-rc2 running hells core b38.
everything works fine, very smooth - battery drain is ok - better than stock.
here is the link
http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j...4mXLcIpMkgXEFXZuRyRyt4Q&bvm=bv.53217764,d.Yms
thanks for the link.. which do we need for PA?
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thanks for the link.. which do we need for PA?
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PA is jwr so use anykernel.zip for jss based roms use AOSP.zip
If you choose wrong kernel,you won't brake anything,but you'll have screen tearing.
I'm using hellscore for a while,great balance on baterry live and performance.
My recommendations for hellscore.
did you say hells kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
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oh k i see.
Hi guys,
Would love to know your opinion about the best custom kernel to go along with stock Android.
Please share your experience.
Stuxnet is good for me
I have been using franco's since I received my N4 and haven't really been attracted to anything else.
Mashed_Potatoes said:
Stuxnet is good for me
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How is the battery life?
tykate said:
I have been using franco's since I received my N4 and haven't really been attracted to anything else.
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Ive heard it has some issues qith the latest r214 build. Would love to try but looking for it to be a bit more stable
if you are a one time flasher (ie you like to flash and not tweak the kernel or anything) - Franco, Mirage are suitable for you.
if you like to tweak the kernel, you can use - hellscore, Hellsdoctor or ak - its not that these kernels' defaults are not good, its just that they can be more optimised with profiles with synapse - for eg ones from gorilla_p (bit.ly/makostuff).
if you like kernel tweaking with dedicated apps - faux or Semaphore kernels.
i am not able to give you a more comprehensible reply because you haven't specified what feature you are looking for - more SOT or better performance.
more SOT - HD or ak
better performance - Franco
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if you are a one time flasher (ie you like to flash and not tweak the kernel or anything) - Franco, Mirage are suitable for you.
if you like to tweak the kernel, you can use - hellscore, Hellsdoctor or ak - its not that these kernels' defaults are not good, its just that they can be more optimised with profiles with synapse - for eg ones from gorilla_p (bit.ly/makostuff).
if you like kernel tweaking with dedicated apps - faux or Semaphore kernels.
i am not able to give you a more comprehensible reply because you haven't specified what feature you are looking for - more SOT or better performance.
more SOT - HD or ak
better performance - Franco
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Thanks @Theodeus
I've heard a lot about hellscore and hellsdoctor.
I'm looking for a good balance between performance and battery life.
Ive heard that franco gives a good standby time as it only uses 1 ir 2 cores in stand by.
Do hellsdoctor also offer the same. Im using tricksterMOD now and don't mind a bit of tweaking as well
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How is the battery life?
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3 to 5hrs SOT. Little gaming will put you between 3-4hrs, no gaming 4hr-5hr
Franco kernel.. Nothing else:thumbup:
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