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Well my phone is completly white screened. I took it apart and messed around in there but I couldn't get anything going on. even with it apart i really couldnt get it to stay solid for more than 15 seconds. Either something else it wrong, or I just don't have the technical ability to fix this.
Not sure..what I am sure of is that I really don't feel like after spending 300 bucks on a phone I should have to be messing around with something like this after 6 months. So on that note I think I am going to be saying goodbye to HTC or at least this model. Does anyone have any suggestions on some other solid phones that have some of the same functionality as the hermes but are a bit more reliable, especially for the money spent.
Thanks for any advice.
a bad experience is not enough to categorize this...
I'm having a really bad experience with my HTC Universal, and still I giving it a go. But I won't recommend you more any HTC If you don't really like going into new roms every while... I think this is the "nice" experience of having one of this
I like playing around with the various ROMS...I don't like having to take the entire phone apart because of what is quite clearly a design flaw. I was just hoping someone could point me to a similar phone that was a bit sturdier and didnt have this massive design flaw.
Quick Bump...anyone have any suggestions? I need to get this replaced...I feel funny without my phone.
Sorry, this isn't a phone recommendation, but if you feel that you have invested quite a bit of money in something that may get lost, stolen, or break, you might want to consider getting your next phone insured.
I have received replacement handsets under insurance for both Nokia and HTC without quibbles.
Yes good Idea. Unfortunatly AT&T does not insure this particular phone (or at least didnt when i bought it). Probably because it breaks a lot.
im pretty sure this is your first htc phone. Im pretty sure its even your first windows mobile phone, and that you did not buy it new.
If you had other htc phones, you would know that this hardware is High Tech (htc = high tech corp), and pretty much the most advanced stuff you can get these days. Things can and do go wrong, its true about anything thats complicated.
If you had other windows mobile phones, you would nkow that they are very stable with their core programming. BUT, for speed, customizations, cool toys, etc .. one had to spend time pasting together the components and making it work.
Finally, if you had bought this phone new, your problems would have been covered under warranty. If your not the type to fix things yourself, get it new, dont take it apart, and demand you get what you paid for. Also, just because a few apples have gone bad, does not make the entire harvest bad! My 8525 has experienced mroe parking lot drops than I care to admit, and she is still treating me very well!
Good luck with your new phone. Weigh the pro's and con's a little mroe carefully next time!
p.s. at&t nor cingular will insure pdas anymore, because of their high replacement and repair costs, not their failure rates! Plus customers can simply "think" something is wrong, and insist on a brand new replacement under insurance. That gets very costly! I used to work at an at&t authorized dealer a few years ago and these were the reasons I received from North-east regional sales mangers. If you want to protect your investment, there are plenty of third-party insurance agents you can go to privately
I can't believe you spent all that time with that message and managed to completly miss my entire point. I don't care what anyone says, this is a design flaw plain and simple. It has nothing to do with the fact that this phone is the "pinnacle of technology" or whatever. It's just an internal design flaw. It has nothing to do with me tinkering around with it, it has everything to do with poor design.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough on this point...I like everything about this phone except for this massive design flaw that makes the phone useless. I was asking for people to give me opinions on a similar phone that was designed a bit better.
Thank for for spending 10 miutes of your life telling me about technology, insurance issues, and how to choose the right phone for my technological abilities. Unfortunatly I didn't ask for any of that information.
not to worry sir, im a very fast typist. Took 4 minutes at the most.
The point is, any phone you get, even non-wm, do have the potential to have a problem. Either you avoid it completely by buying a different phone (impossible), protect yourself against it, or expect it something to happen and have a plan in place (insurance). Doesnt matter what new OS you move to, you WILL have problems if it is 50% as customizable as Windows Mobile/HTC is.
I was happy to spend another 2 minutes with this post, so no sympathies are required this time around . Good luck to you
p.s. to answer your original question .. a phone you will not likely have a problem wit his a Pink Motorola Razor. Given you can't do 10% what you can with any HTC phone .. but much less agrivation for you (that is what your looking for, isnt it?). If it ever develops a white screen, have the manufacture replace it. Thats the beauty of a warranty (and is "Getting what you paid for" (thats what your looking for, isnt it?))
for it's price a razr v3i is worth to buy now...still can play MP3 and have a memory expansion slot...not too bad for a cheap phone rite?and yes, you dont have to flash your phone every once in awhile...hehe..
ps. i'm a happy hermes100 official rom user...with a signal issue coz sometimes it just wont receive calls...OMG where's the stable radio???hehhehee
Jesus I feel like i'm talking to a brick wall. The problem is NOT the software of this phone..it is a physical design flaw. I don't have any problem with the ROM, with flashing the ROM, with WM6, WM5, WM20058349209, or whatever. My problem is that the ribbons and the way they connect in this phone are flawed, and I was hoping someone knew of a similar phone that did NOT have this DESIGN FLAW. The white screen issues is NOT a software issues from what I can tell, it is a design flaw. I don't know how else I can say that to make you understand what I'm trying to get across here.
Design flaw? No white screen of death here mate. Perhaps it is just a design flaw in your particular batch of phone, no? As for recommendations, you could always get a Sony!
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Jesus I feel like i'm talking to a brick wall. The problem is NOT the software of this phone..it is a physical design flaw. I don't have any problem with the ROM, with flashing the ROM, with WM6, WM5, WM20058349209, or whatever. My problem is that the ribbons and the way they connect in this phone are flawed, and I was hoping someone knew of a similar phone that did NOT have this DESIGN FLAW. The white screen issues is NOT a software issues from what I can tell, it is a design flaw. I don't know how else I can say that to make you understand what I'm trying to get across here.
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I've read this thread and I have owned and used (and, yes, burned lots of ROMs) my Cingular 8525 for about a year. You keep saying "design flaw" over and over without explaining the problem. Something about a "white screen" comes through, but you are not making your case. Exactly what failure are you experiencing and why do you think anyone else is having the same problem? I have had half a dozen cell phones and this is my second smart phone (first was a Treo 650). I've also had myriad other Palms and Psions. All have been amazing for their time. None has failed me, including the cingular 8525. Of course, I haven't taken it apart
A "design flaw" implies that many or most samples will have the same problem. Please try to convey what that problem is. I'm curious.
my thoughts exactly since there are at least a million hermes out there without design flaws...
Well consider yourselves lucky then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321163
Heres a few other people that have had the same problem, and a very good explanation of the problem and causes.
I guess maybe I'm just that 1 in 10,000 guy thats having this problem, but it seemed from this and others posts that it was pretty widespread.
HTC build quality does seem a bit suspect, IMHO...
The slide assembly on my Hermes gets really loose unless I take it apart every few months and tighten the screws up, plus, the whole thing is a bit creak and cheaply made to start with.
And I've just realised my last PPC to fail completely was also built by HTC, an iPaq H3870...
id wait for the ultimate 9502
Azurael said:
HTC build quality does seem a bit suspect, IMHO...
The slide assembly on my Hermes gets really loose unless I take it apart every few months and tighten the screws up, plus, the whole thing is a bit creak and cheaply made to start with.
And I've just realised my last PPC to fail completely was also built by HTC, an iPaq H3870...
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are you serious? c'mon, how many phones have you evr owned? I have had the displeasure of owning MANY MANY phones, ALL of which broke, had sucky reception, screens cracked by themselves, and GOD FORBID you dropped it on concrete twice! the Hermes is the HANDS DOWN toughest phone i have ever ever seen. I have dropped in water, onto a deck from 16 feet, on concrete dozens of times, flashed ROMs, installed hundreds of 3rd party apps, ETC...... AND it still goes on strong after 2.5 years. The ONLY problem I have had is the USB gets loose, and needs to be treated carefully. But for the price, and the fact that i have not needed to replace it over and over again (like ALL my other phones) has made it the best phone HANDS DOWN I have ever used, PERIOD.
PS IPAQ is MFG by HP not HTC??? and you say every few MONTHS, this means if you did it twice , you already owned it longer than most phones last.......... go but a nokia and DONT FORGET THE INSURANCE, you'll need it.
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Well consider yourselves lucky then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321163
Heres a few other people that have had the same problem, and a very good explanation of the problem and causes.
I guess maybe I'm just that 1 in 10,000 guy thats having this problem, but it seemed from this and others posts that it was pretty widespread.
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OH and you.... seems you found the solution just fine, NO? geesh stop flamming these nice people and go to the thread you posted , and fix your darn phone...
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Well my phone is completly white screened. I took it apart and messed around in there but I couldn't get anything going on. even with it apart i really couldnt get it to stay solid for more than 15 seconds. Either something else it wrong, or I just don't have the technical ability to fix this.
Not sure..what I am sure of is that I really don't feel like after spending 300 bucks on a phone I should have to be messing around with something like this after 6 months. So on that note I think I am going to be saying goodbye to HTC or at least this model. Does anyone have any suggestions on some other solid phones that have some of the same functionality as the hermes but are a bit more reliable, especially for the money spent.
Thanks for any advice.
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my 8525 from o2 is stuck on windows mobile
I want to take a second to introduce myself..my name is Eric
I was here awhile back, as a blackberry user
Now, as a "droid" user
Which form of a droid, yet to be determined.
I"ll spare the long story, I had 3 Nexus', had problems, still swear it is one of the most phenomenal phones, then I decided cause of all the hype and I wanted a large screen, and a black one, less rounded....got an EVO
Well, the phone is great. Sprint customer service.
I didn't hold tru to keeping a story short, but I will hold true to bashing a company. Let your mind do the guessing
So I decided to get a Nexus. I also read all the hype about the Vibrant. I went and got the Vibrant also since I had the money and read that it was spectacular and one of the only things negative is the plastic back and NO flash. Well a lot of phones have plastic parts.. It contributes to a beautiful phone, other parts are metal . Other glass
So I have both phones coming to me.
I asked others in forums if there were people who use two phones, short of people who make them use one for work and another for personal, and they say, NO, and the ones that do do it say it is a pain in the neck.
To make what was supposed to be this SHORT story end, could you please tell me what I could possibly do with two phones. I have asked myself that over and over, clearly the mind of a person who is not able to decide LOL
Which one is better If you are a mod you may have given me your advice in the past
The difference now is this. I hear that there are only several cases of the nexus left and once gone, ninety days from the day of last sale, , what is the correct phrase, customer service will stop (according to Nexus support NOT the ad)
He also said that HTC will handle warranty, but everything else, who knows
Which one should I keep if only one?
I feel the Vibrant. Other than updates (and if you have a spectacular phone, which is what the Vibrant is) there should be no differences, in fact, go with the phone with the most support correct.
I will post in the Nexus side also. Thanks
Keep the Nexus One to Mod and use the Vibrant as your daily driver!
Yeah. Why would you have to keep only one?
You gotta change it up now and again. We men like a little variety..
So I was in a car crash and my N1 and car are goners. Well for my N1 it's only the screen that's cracked (inside, not the outside glass) but it's going to cost me upwards of $290 to get it repaired (I'm out of the states not near any repair centre etc) so that really sucks.
This thread is not to cry about it but looking for a proper replacement.
Like I said I'm out of the states and GSM/UMTS is what I need not CDMA and no contract options are available from carriers here so it's only fully unlocked (or with the potential to be) that will work for me.
I liked Stock Android but positively loved HTC Sense
So I was looking at either
1. Still trying to repair for the price above
2. A vendor here has HTC Desire HD - That would fit the HTC Sense wish but I hear there are battery issues(I've seen 'fixes' but no idea how well they work), the speaker's max volume is sort of low, I'm also worried about how good handsfree operation is (whether the mike works well etc)
3. Nexus S (that will be a few hurdles away to get it shipped to my country) but I'm sad about it being made by Sammy (could it mean no Sense would run on it - just speculation), then I was hoping it would have dual cores (that would be a nice upgrade), amazed it doesn't have 720p video recording in this day and age, sad it doesn't have hdmi out or microsd expansion (in that car crash the fact that I backed my stuff up on the sd card made me realise the importance)
4. Wait for the next decent (HTC?) dual core which could be way out.
Right now I'm using a stupid Blackberry that I absolutely hate. I didn't realise how much I could do with my phone until it was taken away.
So please shoot away and I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum
MyTouch 4 is your choice.
You can buy replacement screens off ebay, it really isnt that difficult to install one.
I would wait til January if possible. Lots of new stuff coming from HTC.
Maybe a Nokia 3310?
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1) Replace the screen later after buying one from ebay.
2) Nexus S.
3) Make do with anything & wait for dual cores to come out.
In the end, only you can answer these!
I did not realise you could get replacement screens on Ebay. With the 'shortages' in amoled. I can certainly do that if it will work. I'll look around for pointers on changing the screen but if someone already has a link handy I'd appreciate it.
I don't think I have anyway of getting a Mytouch 4g to where I live.
And if I can replace the screen then yes I can definitely hold off purchasing another phone till Dual cores are up and about. I did not intend to replace this phone till June/July next year
Thanks for your input everyone.
Edit: I've just browsed ebay rapidly. I see they sell the screen 'without' the digitizer. I'm unsure if I will need one or not. I'm also seeing that amoleds are about $75 and the reference is H78. I'd just like to make sure that I will be buying the right thing =[
Ps: I am SO opening my bootloader after that =\
I would try to wait for the dual cores to come out as its close if you can stand the Blackberry for a few months.
At least that is what I would do.
Ford Fiesta. Car bumped into me while I was at around 35Mph and i went under a MiniVan.
Something else that's putting me off changing phones is I have my Car Dock for my N1 as well as an extra battery. I am amazed at how there's no real dock for Desire/HD or samsungs.
Believe me Lythandra I wish I could wait but I can't even bring myself to put back contact numbers on this BlackBerry. Plus there's so much that can be done on Android. Which reminds me I'll lose my privileged unlimited Tags on Shazam if I change phone
Edit: Does anyone think there'll be a Sense rom with 720p for the Nexus S?
I would buy the phone Google supports the most (just as the Nexus One), so I would go for the Nexus S
One more question. Does the Desire use exactly the same screen and internal connections? Cause this guy from an HTC shop here says they only do HTC's branded as HTC's and that they do repair Desire screens.
I thought this was incredibly stupid
RAZR...nuff said.
If you want Sense UI, then it makes sense (haha) to go for a phone that supports it natively, saves the pain and bugs of trying to get something to run on something it was never designed for. I tried a Sense UI ROM on my N1 when I had it, and it had a few annoying bugs for me, despite otherwise being a fairly decent port.
The Desire for me is a better phone, if you can look beyond noise cancelling and the silly coloured track ball, which is nice, but hardly anything to get that excited about; the desire has a hardware buttons which are much, MUCH nicer to use than those crap soft touch buttons on the N1. Said it all to me how other people really struggled to use the N1 when I let them have a play because the buttons are so unresponsive. Even after several months I had got used to them, but they still irritated.
If you're in the US though, naturally you have many more options available to you... I only know about stuff you can get in the UK.
There is one guy on a forum I visit who recently returned his Desire HD, stating he was really disappointed with the battery life and screen, and saying he would rather have the Desire. Make of that what you will.
if u plan to spend lots of money for a new phone i would wait till dual-core android HTC device.don't fall for the out dated nexus s which justa galaxy s made by "samsung".wait till january for HTC's release of dual-core android beasts.
Well I'm not in the US, I'm on an island in the indian ocean.
Anyways I'm thinking I'll give the repair a try. If that doesn't work (because of a busted digitiser or w/e) then I'll think again.
Btw I love my N1 trackball and got used to the "got to press them a particular way" soft buttons.
I love the trackball because I can set a different colour for different events. Say 1 colour for the gf's text messages, 1 colour for when work is calling. That way at a glance (when the phone's on my desk or not in my pocket) I know what it is. Saddens me they're not keeping that trend.
Airbag888 said:
So I was in a car crash and my N1 and car are goners.
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Are you ok?
geemaan said:
Are you ok?
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Lol yes. Like I said 35Mph crash, looks impressive but it was a squishy car and just this time my N1 was on the passenger seat instead of the dock so it flew in the windshield. Irony wants that the airbag slapped me in the face
+1 get a replacement on ebay and attempt it yourself or with a knowledgeable friend. Is been done by folks right here at xda.
I find it interesting that your id is Airbag...
britoso said:
+1 get a replacement on ebay and attempt it yourself or with a knowledgeable friend. Is been done by folks right here at xda.
I find it interesting that your id is Airbag...
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Hence the irony
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Hence the irony
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LOL i thought you created an account as a result of the crash
Anyone else see this? Hopefully (if true) this gets fixed before shipment here to the US...
http://www.slashgear.com/note-4-screen-gap-issue-is-worse-than-bendgate-29348268/
Samsung is already aware of the issue. These phones are usually produced a week or two before they get into the customer's hands so this should be a non-issue for the ones coming onto American shores. And it's a manufacturing flaw not a design flaw like "bendgate."
Kawaisa said:
Samsung is already aware of the issue. These phones are usually produced a week or two before they get into the customer's hands so this should be a non-issue for the ones coming onto American shores. And it's a manufacturing flaw not a design flaw like "bendgate."
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Thanks for your input, good to know - I feel a little better now. =)
Yeah, no big deal for real. As mentioned above, it is not a design flaw like the iBend.
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Might even be fake according to comments. But we all know what @ssholes some folks are that hang around the interwebs.
Most likely is not true... But in case it is true... You can use the gaps as storage compartments... Or as card holders as shown in pictures... Nice feature... Lol
My Note 3 had a large gap on one side of the screen. It was like the screen wasn't set properly. I exchanged my phone and the new one didn't have the issue. Not a big deal. Issue was resolved.
You cant return the 6 plus for a 6 plus that doesn't bend
complete nonsense to even compare couple phones sleeping past quality control to fundamental design fault. I accidentally sat down with my Note 3 being in my back jeans pocket more than once (simply forgot, since I usually carry it in side pocket), so bending ip6 may not be as remote possibility as some want to make it.
its for the new screen shield
I went best buy to play with the Note 4, I tried to stick a business card and there was no gap there.
Scare Tactics
don't scare us like that! but honestly, sammy always takes care of it, and seeing as how the phone is already out in other parts of the world, we shouldn't see any issues over here in the US. its one of the only pluses to not getting a phone first :good:
According to Android Central it looks like it's acknowledged in the manual.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-4-screen-gap-necessary-manufacturing-feature-says-manual
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Oh and the fun continues...
"Galaxy Note 4 screen gap 'a necessary manufacturing feature,' says manual"
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-4-screen-gap-necessary-manufacturing-feature-says-manual
No biggie, since I really want this phone - I'll just plan to buy it in person, and inspect it before buying (problem solved). But I did find the above article interesting, and wondered if Sammy added that to their manual after some of the N3's had similar issues...
Nonsense!
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I went best buy to play with the Note 4, I tried to stick a business card and there was no gap there.
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Same here, there really is no gap! And if anyone sees one, just get an exchange!
It's not even noticeable until some kiddie decided to stick a piece of paper in it.
I can stick a piece of paper in my note 2 as well, it's clearly not an issue
but, people will continue to make a big deal about it here..
Everything has a "GATE" at the end nowadays???????
.... like its some kind of scandal... based off Watergate... very ghey imo
So I'd like to start off with how much I absolutely LOVE my XZ3+, and that It is by far my favorite device I have ever owned or seen, usually I go threw them like hotcakes.
But unfortunately, 6 months in and my device is experiencing some trouble. On the left hand side the screen is starting to yellow, and sony said they'd replace it for free regardless of warranty status assuming it wasn't due to misuse such as squishing it or being in the heat.
Well, I'm pretty sure I didn't squish it and it's getting worse over time so, no one incident happened, and I never go outside so... honestly though it does kind of look like a finger indentation exactly where I hold the phone., and I don't use the case as I am a firm believer in using my device naked. Like why would you buy an expensive, beautiful new shiny phone and then cover it up, effectively hiding it from the world and all the admirers.
So the warranty repair would take a minimum of fourteen days. That's a long time to go without my phone. Should I send it in for repair/replacement or just buy a new phone.
I wish the Xperia Z line wasn't dead, I'd gladly buy a new one instead but since it is and I don't really like the X line, I might be moving to samsung and have to put up with the stupid bottom button.
Advice, suggestions, anyone else experience a similar issue or having to do with warranty, your input would be greatly appreciated
Ok, maybe stupid question and might NOTHING happen, did you try to repair it through xperia companion? Re-installing the latest firmaware could help if the problem is there (that's a big if and i don't thing this is the problem). This is what i would do before send it to service.
I use it naked too
yeah it's definately the screen, and i just reset it when i first noticed it.
And the only problem is if it is actually my fault, I'd rather just buy a new one on ebay, yanno?
I ordered another nexus 6 (my previous phone, kept breaking due to poor build quality and ergonomics) that i'll use as a tablet/primary while my sony is in service because I'm pretty dependent on having a phone on me 24/7 lol
After that I'll send it in for service and see what the damage is.
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yeah it's definately the screen, and i just reset it when i first noticed it.
And the only problem is if it is actually my fault, I'd rather just buy a new one on ebay, yanno?
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yes it may be your fault, but the build quality does follow a standard... so if the phone somehow was faulty in anyway, they will repair it for free, hopefully.