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Did Asus buy the farm on this one?

Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.

ganovim said:
Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.
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why am I here

it is most likely because production was rushed. the nexus 7 went from idea to production in about 4 months which is relatively quick.

BrianDigital said:
why am I here
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I hear ya. Another useless thread started by someone without an N7. Then again, if I owned 5 Nooks, i'd be bitter too.
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redundant409 said:
it is most likely because production was rushed. the nexus 7 went from idea to production in about 4 months which is relatively quick.
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4 Months? No. Over a year most likely. They shown it in CES 2011 back in January I believe under the name MeMO 370T which is what the Nexus 7 is.
Based off that, its been AT LEAST 9 months (but they had an actual functioning unit - so its been in development much longer).
The 4 month thing is a load of bull.

just lou said:
I hear ya. Another useless thread started by someone without an N7. Then again, if I owned 5 Nooks, i'd be bitter too.
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Most of the other Nooks were for friends you idiot.
And I am raising a legitimate concern about quality control over an item that I was going to purchase myself, and may still do so, but not while sending it back 3 times.

ganovim said:
Most of the other Nooks were for friends you idiot.
And I am raising a legitimate concern about quality control over an item that I was going to purchase myself, and may still do so, but not while sending it back 3 times.
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dont buy it

ganovim said:
Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.
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Not sure the Nook Color should be used as a case of high quality manufacturing. When they first came out they had quite a few problems too. Very creaky bezels, power buttons that would come loose, and some other issues. I had to return my Nook Color three times before I got one that wasn't messed up in some fashion.
Don't think it had any issues as wide spread as the raised glass with the Nexus 7 is. But it didn't seem like a smooth launch either.
Of course if you bought your 5 Nook Colors later after all the hiccups were corrected, they would probably be perfect. I suspect if you were to buy 5 Nexus 7s a bit later they'll probably all be perfect too.
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PS. I have a Nook Color I'll trade for a Nexus 7 by the way.

ganovim said:
Most of the other Nooks were for friends you idiot.
And I am raising a legitimate concern about quality control over an item that I was going to purchase myself, and may still do so, but not while sending it back 3 times.
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Aww. You mad bro?
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Nook had way more problem the nexus 7. I went through a ton before finally just settling on good enough. Ended up selling because it was too slow.
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Obviously the people that have had issues are in the minority. Considering that this forum is very popular you will see lots of people coming on to complain that are in that minority.
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ganovim said:
Have purchased about 5 Nook Colors, (2 refurbished)
Hacked the hell out of them, and never a hardware issue.
Asus used to build reliable stuff, but from all your various horror stories, it seems that this Nexus 7 is not one of them.
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You do understand the concept that somehere like XDA you hear a disproportionate amount of problems, for every person posting here with a problem, there are 100,000 consumers without a problem just USING their tablet.
If you have trouble understanding this simple concept, ask a grown up.

145ty said:
4 Months? No. Over a year most likely. They shown it in CES 2011 back in January I believe under the name MeMO 370T which is what the Nexus 7 is.
Based off that, its been AT LEAST 9 months (but they had an actual functioning unit - so its been in development much longer).
The 4 month thing is a load of bull.
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That was a totally different unit. You have to realize that not everything that hits tech conferences go into production. Google came to Asus I January 2012 it was released in June.
Current devices:
Asus Nexus 7
HTC Sensation 4G
T-Mobile mytouch 3G (HTC Magic) [DISCONTINUED]
When you realize your on xda like it's a full time job.

CrazyPeter said:
You do understand the concept that somehere like XDA you hear a disproportionate amount of problems, for every person posting here with a problem, there are 100,000 consumers without a problem just USING their tablet.
If you have trouble understanding this simple concept, ask a grown up.
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And I guess you talked to them all you moron

Trolls make the best anglers, they always get a bite. Well done but time to go back under your bridge now.

People always say MOST people's N7's are just fine but it seems whenever there is a problem I always seem to be affected! Although I had the screen lift but tightening the screws fixed it for me. So I would say Asus QC is lower especially at the 200 dollar price point, but not that bad.

BrianDigital said:
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So you can hit this thread with a 1 star rate, why else?

Buy or not?

So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...

ReapersDeath said:
So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Ya can read around here. Like most devices there are a few issues but IMO there are no deal breakers. All in all I think most users here, myself included are very happy with this. I have the 32 GB 3g BTW
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ReapersDeath said:
Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Well, I can say 100% that I would rather have my Nexus 7 than an electric Fireplace space heater
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Because you don't live in Alaska....:sly:
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ReapersDeath said:
So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!

I don't know how old your dad is but I am 66 and I freaking love mine.
Got mine from Google on pre order...unlocked and rooted the first day and haven't looked back!!!
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hambino3 said:
I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!
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The last update gave landscape mode on stock homescreen
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I vote for the Nexus. I've had mine since November and haven't had any problems with it. It's a great value, I did a lot of research before buying mine and found it to be the best 7 inch tablet.
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Buy it, you'll have no regrets. I'm sure your dad will love it, just like we love our N7 devices. It's one of the best tablets on the market.

Honestly, I think the N7 is just about the best $200 you can spend as far as technology goes.
Mine is basically defect-free. That hardware is really nice. It's a convenient size, great for reading, email and web-browsing.
However, only you know your dad. If you think he'd like a tablet, the N7 is definitely a great one!

I found this to be ironic since I bought an electric fireplace heater AND nexus 7 recently
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For my dad I would go with the heater, because he's not into these types of toys. But like someone said, only you know your dad, and the fact your considering getting him one speaks volumes, so as an opinion I say go for it. My 32GB was the best $260 I've spent in a long time.
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yes i agree !! Its worth buying

giffy89 said:
yes i agree !! Its worth buying
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I don't know your dad's age but I did something similar I'll describe below.
My step-dad is 61. He's never been real big on technology, he likes using it, for example he's a movie buff and loves home theater stuff, but he really doesn't care at all to know how it works or why it works. He's the kind of person who mysteriously ends up with the strangest toolbars ever on his computer when all he was trying to do was type something in notepad.
When he saw my first tablet, which was when the ipad launched originally, he fell in love with having a big screen and touch interface. So I got him one for Christmas and half expected him to use it for a little while and get frustrated or bored and shelve it longterm. But to my surprise he took to it with no problems and lived on it.
Fast forward a few years to the Nexus 7 launch. A few weeks after the Nexus 7 launched (I bought at staples before the pre order fiasco prior to launch day) he had surgery, heart surgery actually. He had some minor complications and ended up staying in the ICU a few weeks instead of a few days. There was no TV where he was.
His surgeon really stressed to us that he couldn't be working from the ICU, so his own ipad was out of the question. I went and bought a case for the Nexus 7 and then loaned it to him in the hospital. He usually likes big screens and large print, but he says the 7 inch screen is perfect for him and he really liked the Jelly Bean OS and interface a lot. Now he's begging for his own Nexus 7 after using those for a few weeks.
When I'm caught up financially I will buying him a Nexus 7 for sure. Even for a "bull in a china shop" type person who's not a techie, the Nexus 7 is one of the best overall devices I think you could give as a gift. The tablet and jellybean just work, and work great, and it's not much of a learning curve.

Just buy it. It's a greatest device for its money with powerful cpu+gpu plus the grate service support (hope you never needed). The only bad thing is that the glass is not gorilla glass but just Corning class so you must be gentle with the screen.
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Why Didn't You Upgrade To The New Nexus 7?

Hi guys...... I just want to know your reasons why didn't you upgrade to the new nexus 7.
For me, i dont think i need to upgrade because mine still working better using PA w/ faux kernel in it. I had issues before with screen flickerin, auto turn off when battery reaches down to 32%, slow charging...but it's all fixed now. Found a lot of ways solve the problem. Lagfix works better for me so i dont have any problems with lag.
Im also happy using OTG for sharing photos from my sony nex-5n camera. So i think i dont need a camera on a tablet.
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4.3 fixed the trim issue so nobody should have lag issues. I, like you, don't feel the need to upgrade. Mine does everything I need/want it to do. Sure I like nice new shiny toys but just can't justify $250ish, give or take a little depending on size, for something that performs all the same functions as last year's model.
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I will upgrade at some point, but I'm not in a rush. Two reasons for that:
1) This isn't an essential device for me. Just a casual "toy" that's great to have. I still live and die by my desktop and I'll probably never fully fit into the mobile world (Still refuse to own a phone).
2) For reasons I can't explain...maybe the upgrade to 4.3 or the fact I added another router in my house that gets a strong signal to my N7, or both, this device is working smoother and faster than it EVER has. Browsing the net, in particular, is comparable to my desktop experience now. Bottom line: everything is fast and lag free.
So, yeah, I'd like to have the new one, but with my 1st gen working so well I can't justify the cost as it's not an essential piece of tech for me...

Well... I don't think it's available here in the UK until August 28. Or at least according to Wikipedia it isn't.
And even then I don't think I'll buy it... already spent more money on tech and software this year than I should have.
I'll probably wait, until the run up to Christmas, when local stores will be vying for competition... and as a result there'll be some cost cutting. Not by much I grant, but £10 or £20 shaved off the RRP sounds good to me.
Also, I'm never a huge fan of immediately buying tech just when it's been released - it usually comes with a cornucopia of bugs, hardware defects and other unpleasant idiosyncrasies. Give it five or six months, and those wrinkles will likely have been ironed out.
And in any case, 4.3 is running sweetly on my current Nexus 7... so much so, in fact, that I doubt I'll ever bother with Custom ROMs/Kernels.
I'm a man of simple tastes... Root, Nova Launcher and AOSP browser is all I really need. (+ some core apps).
Rgrds,
Ged.

I'm not upgrading because this one is still working and I have to save money to buy furniture and baby clothes.

Not upgrading because my Nexus 7 still works like a charm, being able to do anything I could wish and because I simply don't have the money/don't want to spend it on it.
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Now I've got a fast rom and kernel and am running 4.3, I can't see the need.
I'd like the better screen, but I'll wait until all the issues are resolved before I look again.
Alan

Multirom is not yet available on N7 2013. I couldnt go to a tablet without a multiboot solution anymore. The ability to run 4.2.2 roms, 4.3 roms and Ubuntu desktop for n7 all at the same time has allowed me to be desktop and laptop free.
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Cause this one still works and still gets updates.
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I'm waiting just in case they do the same thing they did last year and drop the lower end model and introduce a higher capacity one at the same price point. I was furious after buying a 16gb model in 2012 for $250 only to have them release a 32gb model for the same price a few months later! I'll gladly wait for a possible 64gb at $269 or even $299. If it hasn't happened by the time the Nexus 5 (or whatever they're gonna call it) drops this fall then I'll feel safer buying it (after I get my hands on the next Nexus phone of course...!). The good thing is, I already have a handful of people that want to buy my old one from me just cause they know it's already pimped and will include tech support (from me lol)
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I've got 4.3, one of the main reasons I would upgrade. And my needs are very simple. Mostly forum reading aps, like this one. News, Wikipedia, the occasional web search, and YouTube.
The first gen handles that with ease. My 5" Phablet handles everything else.
So i will wait and see what is new in the future at this size.
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Our Nexus 7 has the newest Android version and has still a very fast cpu and gpu. I don't see any reason for spending 250€ again for a new device.
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As I live in the UK I can't even see the new model to appreciate just what differences there could be over an above that what I already have got with my 16GB Nexus 7.
But mine seems to be more than adequate to meet my needs.
I do, on occasion, get to use my wife's Xoom and with that being a 10" tablet I do like the screen size difference and I now seem to be more interested in the up and coming replacement for the Nexus 10 rather than this model. However price will be a big influence there.
Having already got a tablet I do not think of the value that they offer as a stand alone device, if that makes sense, but more of what they offer over and above what I have got.
I suppose that goes part way to explain why I'm not too much interested in the 2013 version of the Nexus 7.

I haven't upgraded yet because I remember how it went with the original Nexus 7: I bought one shortly after it came out, then a model with double the storage hit the market for the exact same price and the one I had dropped down.
I'll be waiting for the 32gb model to hit in November for the exact or near same price as the current 16gb model.

Why waste money on something I don't need?
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I haven't upgraded yet because Google keeps telling me "this product is not available in your country yet"
Definitely want the LTE version....
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Like others have already said, my current N7 is doing what I need it to just fine!
Also, I found that I wouldn't mind having the mobile connectivity when I choose to; so I think I'd only upgrade if they came out with the LTE model in Canada.
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Remcotjuuh said:
Not upgrading because my Nexus 7 still works like a charm, being able to do anything I could wish and because I simply don't have the money/don't want to spend it on it.
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Mine also..still working good. Otg making me not needing the use of nexus 7 2nd gen camera. I think i'll have to wait for the 3rd gen to come out just to upgrade.
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I don't want to upgrade because of putting out the cash. I like my 1st gen tablet. It works great, fast and does everything I need it to do. Other than the sake of having something new, meh I don't care.

I'm glad I didn't buy a n 7

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I don't like you

Why ? Slow and laggy?
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After reading about all the problems that the n 7 has I feel glad I didn't buy one.
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And did you read about: Only people who does gave issues complain about it in threads.. In other words there are thousand of users who are completely satisfied, but they just don't post about it..
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Don't forget the loudest voices are always the complainers, reading about issues reported here shouldn't be an indicator as to how good a device is, is just where the highest concentration of people who DO have an issue will go to report it.
Even the reviews on amazon could tell you there are much more people happy with the device than there are unhappy customers
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Post reported, this is a useless thread.

I'm glad I didn't buy a Nexus 7 2013...
Oh wait - I did - two of them - both had the GPS defect. Both returned...
BUT!
I'm waiting to get the Nexus 7 2013 LTE because - and our unhappy non-camper would have known if he'd read ALL the posts - the unhappy ones AND the follow up resolution - the GPS issues have been mostly resolved. The touch screen issue seems under control as well. And unlike the 2012 model, the 2013 lets you tether things to your Nexus 7.
As usual, it's easy to get stuck on the extremes: people who just complain and people who don't want to hear it. Complaints are necessary (when valid) because it puts public pressure on companies to fix their problems and do the right thing. I've long suspected that ASUS' horrible handling of the Transformer Prime fiasco stemmed in part from the negation of the negative comments by people who were essentially cheerleading for ASUS.
And while it's true that a person having a bad experience with a product is more likely to complain than a person having a good one is likely to praise it publically (although I'd point out that that's very much not the case with say.. the iPhone or iPad), companies should realize this is why it's so very, very important to get it right out of the box - or fix it as fast as possible if that fails - or if all else fails, keep the channels of communications open to make sure that your customers know you're working on it.
ASUS gets this wrong far too often and this time, they damaged Google's rep in the process, but in all fairness - Google's closed lipped approach just make things worse.
It's easy to blame the victims here - maybe we should spend a little more time blaming the companies that can't even do basic QA?

OP we are glad you didn't buy it also......Thread Closed.

Should I wait to buy?

Why are all threads and discussions about complaints? Are the first batches that bad? XDA has made me scared of ordering the 6P, all threads and topics are about something not working or defective. I'm thinking about waiting a while to buy it, whenever everything gets fixed, but is it REALLY all true?

no. if you need a phone buy it. see the reviews. they are all glowing.

Have you looked at any xda forum around the release of a device? People with issues post, people that don't have issues don't. No different here.
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akellar said:
Have you looked at any xda forum around the release of a device? People with issues post, people that don't have issues don't. No different here.
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Of course, I understand, but with the 6P it just seems excessive. I've seen great reviews, but I trust the xda community and know some of you have been struggling with bugs, and have had to ask for replacements

I've been here a long time and its like this every device I get.
I bought this for my girlfriend and I can't put it down.. Love it over my Nexus 6 and the games I had performance issues with before are gone.
I'm going to buy me one here in a couple weeks.

I went ahead and bought the phone based on my own research and reviews. Most ofthe complaints here on xda are people trying to root their phone and not having the options they were used to on their old rooted phones. Battery bugs are to be expected and I am sure will be addressed in the future. You can buy the phone and try it, if you don't like it sell it on swappa.

I have the Moto x pure and wanted to try the Nexus 6p , now I got it it feels cheap the aluminum feels thin and the whole phone does not feel comfortable in hands , I'm gonna sell it and stay with Moto x pure , i think Nexus 6 was bigger but felt more premium .

Nexus and XDA = Winner! But u have to be the one to decide...