Should I wait to buy? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why are all threads and discussions about complaints? Are the first batches that bad? XDA has made me scared of ordering the 6P, all threads and topics are about something not working or defective. I'm thinking about waiting a while to buy it, whenever everything gets fixed, but is it REALLY all true?

no. if you need a phone buy it. see the reviews. they are all glowing.

Have you looked at any xda forum around the release of a device? People with issues post, people that don't have issues don't. No different here.
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akellar said:
Have you looked at any xda forum around the release of a device? People with issues post, people that don't have issues don't. No different here.
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Of course, I understand, but with the 6P it just seems excessive. I've seen great reviews, but I trust the xda community and know some of you have been struggling with bugs, and have had to ask for replacements

I've been here a long time and its like this every device I get.
I bought this for my girlfriend and I can't put it down.. Love it over my Nexus 6 and the games I had performance issues with before are gone.
I'm going to buy me one here in a couple weeks.

I went ahead and bought the phone based on my own research and reviews. Most ofthe complaints here on xda are people trying to root their phone and not having the options they were used to on their old rooted phones. Battery bugs are to be expected and I am sure will be addressed in the future. You can buy the phone and try it, if you don't like it sell it on swappa.

I have the Moto x pure and wanted to try the Nexus 6p , now I got it it feels cheap the aluminum feels thin and the whole phone does not feel comfortable in hands , I'm gonna sell it and stay with Moto x pure , i think Nexus 6 was bigger but felt more premium .

Nexus and XDA = Winner! But u have to be the one to decide...

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Would you trade for a Note 2?

Would you trade your nexus 4 for a galaxy note 2? Would you be willing to add cash for the trade? What are your guys thoughts on this. Mods please don't close this is just a discussion thread that I'm sure many people have pondered before.
Trade for a non-Nexus phone? Why the hell would I ever even consider that?
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Trade for a non-Nexus phone? Why the hell would I ever even consider that?
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Bigger screen, spen, better battery life. Guess your the android equivalent to an iPhone fanboy!!
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i don't have the Nexus 4 (still waiting for shipment) but i never considered about buying a Note II instead the Nexus´ screen is just big enaugh i don't wan't to use 2 Hands for using a Phone that's horrible
I don't need a Goliath screen/phone size, and I find taking notes on a tablet more useful, if you are going to use it for that purpose.
I wouldnt mainly because this is pure android and updates instant
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I considered at first to get the note 2, but in comparison to the nexus 4 the price is so tempting!
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Guess your the android equivalent to an iPhone fanboy!!
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Seriously: just go away.
No way! Pure android is too amazing! Not to mention all the development that will revolve around this phone.
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Not a chance love my pure android way too much :good: I like to build my phone ie mods
danielvc said:
Seriously: just go away.
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Live a little, take a joke
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twolfekc said:
Bigger screen, spen, better battery life. Guess your the android equivalent to an iPhone fanboy!!
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You forgot a Note 2 feature: "No where near the community support and enthusiast development." We are all CM/AOKP fanboys.
Now leave.
I want to trade my nexus
I have a Nexus 4 16GB that i want to trade for Note 2 .
im from the uk. been trying to swap for a couple of days now. gone back to my S3 so i don't scratch it etc..
I know some people are not gonna be happy with this decision but there are some useful additional options to the Note 2 which will help me day to day.
Love the Nexus 4 and gonna be sad to see it go =( . I love the feel, screen, speed, and frustration free vanilla android 4.2.1.
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You forgot a Note 2 feature: "No where near the community support and enthusiast development." We are all CM/AOKP fanboys.
Now leave.
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So let me get this straight. Your all a bunch of jerks who want nobody to enter into your "community" because your all superior because you have a stock android experience? Telling people to get out of your thread isn't necessarily the best thing to do.
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Ok this is coming from a guy who have had a Note 2...Check my Sig and old posts youll see I was in the Att Note 2 Threads....ok to me both phones are excellent...I love both...but to me its all about what you like when it comes to these 2 phones...if you really dont like flashing too much and just like to get a rom and keep it for a good while and dont do too much modding to your phone than go Note 2...but if you love having a variety of choice, modding, tweaking than go Nexus...which is why I sold my Note 2...I LOVE FLASHING AND TWEAKING AND GETTING ON XDA EVERY CHANCE I GET LOL....but I would prefer the Nexus with a slight edge in this one...the phone is just a brillant piece of work...very slick...fast...beautiful....you gotta love it...but would I trade my Nexus???? Answer is yes if someone gave me the Note 2 and enough money to buy myself another Nexus 4...yea than we could trade....
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Ok this is coming from a guy who have had a Note 2...Check my Sig and old posts youll see I was in the Att Note 2 Threads....ok to me both phones are excellent...I love both...but to me its all about what you like when it comes to these 2 phones...if you really dont like flashing too much and just like to get a rom and keep it for a good while and dont do too much modding to your phone than go Note 2...but if you love having a variety of choice, modding, tweaking than go Nexus...which is why I sold my Note 2...I LOVE FLASHING AND TWEAKING AND GETTING ON XDA EVERY CHANCE I GET LOL....but I would prefer the Nexus with a slight edge in this one...the phone is just a brillant piece of work...very slick...fast...beautiful....you gotta love it...but would I trade my Nexus???? Answer is yes if someone gave me the Note 2 and enough money to buy myself another Nexus 4...yea than we could trade....
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Awesome post. Very well put. :beer:
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I had a Note 2 for a month, and why did I return it because of the screen. AMOLED is nice for blacks and such but having had a One X as my primary phone I'm just in love with IPS display. Much sharper overall, crisp text, natural colours, the N4 screen is on par with the One X. But I think the One X screen edges the N4 slightly. But would be happy with either.
I'm quite liking the N4, using stock Android is different to using a skinned version.
Both are good phones regardless, go for whatever your needs are.
Trade? Yes, add cash? No.
I can easily buy another n4, but am unwilling to shell out $650 for a note 2
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I was contemplating getting a Note 2 instead of the Nexus but experiencing slow updates from HTC I wanted the insurance Nexus phones had on future software updates
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So let me get this straight. Your all a bunch of jerks who want nobody to enter into your "community" because your all superior because you have a stock android experience? Telling people to get out of your thread isn't necessarily the best thing to do.
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1. No selling our trading outside the marketplace. No one would trade his N4 + $$ for a Note 2.
2. A very small percentage of users on the Nexus 4 subforum stick with stock.
3. There are many threads already comparing the Note 2 and the N4. In fact, there's a ton of threads criticizing the N4 and comparing it to pretty much every flagship phone out.
4. You haven't been gentlemanly and if you showed some manners, you'd get a more genial response. Remember that you came into our forum. Everyone here clearly is sticking with their N4.

Should I get the Nexus 4

I sold my old gnex to buy the new nexus 4 but when the nexus 4 came out I couldn't buy it and spent my money on something else. I have the money now but more high-end phones are coming out. Should I wait or the nexus 4 will be good for this year?
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do what you want. we cant tell you what to do with your money.
JarGnex said:
I sold my old gnex to buy the new nexus 4 but when the nexus 4 came out I couldn't buy it and spent my money on something else. I have the money now but more high-end phones are coming out. Should I wait or the nexus 4 will be good for this year?
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If you wait, you will wait forever. Technology gets better by the day. Quite literally. For me, it's simple. I wouldn't buy anything else except for a Nexus device (or something similar). I bought the Nexus S, used it for two years, and now I bought the Nexus 4. I could wait another year for the next Nexus (or maybe the X phone from Motorola), but I'm not gonna. The Nexus 4 is very, VERY cheap for what it can. Heck, the Galaxy Nexus costs the same. And you pay twice as much for the iPhone 5. You could argue that the iPhone 5 is better (I don't think that, but it's not unreasonable if you do), but still... it's not nearly worth twice as much. The same goes for other phones that are 1.5x or 2x as expensive as the N4.
If I had the Gnex, I wouldn't have bought the N4. But since you already did; go for the N4.
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If you wait, you will wait forever. Technology gets better by the day. Quite literally. For me, it's simple. I wouldn't buy anything else except for a Nexus device (or something similar). I bought the Nexus S, used it for two years, and now I bought the Nexus 4. I could wait another year for the next Nexus (or maybe the X phone from Motorola), but I'm not gonna. The Nexus 4 is very, VERY cheap for what it can. Heck, the Galaxy Nexus costs the same. And you pay twice as much for the iPhone 5. You could argue that the iPhone 5 is better (I don't think that, but it's not unreasonable if you do), but still... it's not nearly worth twice as much. The same goes for other phones that are 1.5x or 2x as expensive as the N4.
If I had the Gnex, I wouldn't have bought the N4. But since you already did; go for the N4.
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You're right. That's what I wanted to hear, some motivation. Thanks and I agree with you that the iPhone is not better than the N4 considering factors that you mentioned above.
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You're right. That's what I wanted to hear, some motivation. Thanks and I agree with you that the iPhone is not better than the N4 considering factors that you mentioned above.
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It's sad to see posts just like this when people purposely post a new thread just so they feel better about themselves and their purchase. It's like walking in a apple store asking, should I buy a iphone 5? All you're going to get are biased posts.
It's your money, spend it how you like based on your own conclusions and not others
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do what you want. we cant tell you what to do with your money.
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Yes we can. If OP is so undecided about it they can just donate the money to ME and I'll spend it accordingly.
PS: So tired of these threads... if only I was a moderator.
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Yes we can. If OP is so undecided about it they can just donate the money to ME and I'll spend it accordingly.
PS: So tired of these threads... if only I was a moderator.
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Haha that's funny, same here man. There's always like three posts like this each day. It's a phone, the longer you wait, the better there'll be. In the end, Nexus devices have a longer life span.
Have fun buying that galaxy s3 running 4.1 still and getting the update six months later. Waiting for someone to say oh flash a rom, let's assume flashing wasn't possible. You get my drift.
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It's sad to see posts just like this when people purposely post a new thread just so they feel better about themselves and their purchase. It's like walking in a apple store asking, should I buy a iphone 5? All you're going to get are biased posts.
It's your money, spend it how you like based on your own conclusions and not others
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You're right. It has a name. The opposite of buyer's remorse.
But that doesn't mean that we can't name some good reason to buy the Nexus 4. The price, for example, is a very good reason. In the end, he probably already made a decision.
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You're right. It has a name. The opposite of buyer's remorse.
But that doesn't mean that we can't name some good reason to buy the Nexus 4. The price, for example, is a very good reason. In the end, he probably already made a decision.
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There's a thousand posts hi-liting the GOOD and BAD features of this phone already. The search function is a very useful tool.
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You're right. It has a name. The opposite of buyer's remorse.
But that doesn't mean that we can't name some good reason to buy the Nexus 4. The price, for example, is a very good reason. In the end, he probably already made a decision.
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It does have a name, it's called google search and he should use it. There are already a bunch of threads related to this topic and he should use it. I could make this same exact post on the s3 forums and link it here to show you that the posts we make are biased towards Nexus 4.
I'm not here to beg someone to get the phone. If they want the phone then get it, not because we as user's told him to because we want more people to have a n4
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If I had the choice to buy it again I wouldn't.
Why, because I already bought one of course...
Lol.
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I would say buy it if you can...Its a great phone and youll love it....its got great devs building for it also...so you cant lose with this phone....Even though I dont have the phone anymore I still recommend it....Ive went to the international note 2 which I love...Its just a pure powerhouse of a phone lol....but the if you buy the N4 you wont regret it at all....lol youll come back and thank me if you decide to purchase it....
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I would say buy it if you can...Its a great phone and youll love it....its got great devs building for it also...so you cant lose with this phone....Even though I dont have the phone anymore I still recommend it....Ive went to the international note 2 which I love...Its just a pure powerhouse of a phone lol....but the if you buy the N4 you wont regret it at all....lol youll come back and thank me if you decide to purchase it....
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Nexus 4 is a beast with Franco's kernel :thumbup:
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Buy it if you want. It doesn't really matter, all the posts here are going to be biased. If you posted on the HTC one forum, they'll tell you to get that phone over n4 blah blah blah.
Do what makes you happy and conclude on your own thoughts. Not to satisfy other people.
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I just ordered one for my technophobe wife. She's gonna love it whether she likes it or not :beer:
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zephiK said:
Haha that's funny, same here man. There's always like three posts like this each day. It's a phone, the longer you wait, the better there'll be. In the end, Nexus devices have a longer life span.
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When the Nexus 4 first launched... it was pretty obvious there wouldn't be another Nexus phone for a good while. Now, there's talk of the Nexus 5, and we have no idea what'll be announced at I/O, and there's talk of something else being released around October/November this year.
If you have patience, I'd wait to see what'll be announced at I/O. I doubt a new phone will be announced, but who knows. If you have even greater patience, you could wait until Oct/Nov. If you believe you can resell the device close to what you bought it for, buy the N4 now, and then decide on if you want to resell it if a new Nexus phone is announced at either points in time.
I have no patience, but believe I can resell my N4 if need-be. I don't think a phone will be announced at I/O, so I bought a N4 yesterday
I remember buying my 8GB Nexus 7, and a few weeks later, it got discontinued, with the 16GB taking its place for the same price. Was really disappointed, but still kept my N7 and enjoyed it.
As far as I concerned, if it ain't a Nexus device it ain't worth buying unless the manufacturers wake up and start offering some vanilla goodness along with their proprietary crap!
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Get while it's still the hottest bad boy device around!
at least wait until 5/15 for google io. Pretty strong rumors it will at least come with a minor update for LTE and storage upgrade. Maybe even N5 will be released. Buying an android 6months after release for the same price is usually a bad idea.
Yeah I'm glad I got the nexus 4. It meets my needs and it's got pure android which I love
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[Q] Nexus 4... worth it?

Hi,
I'm a big Samsung fan, i've had the S1, S2 and currently own the S3..at the moment i'm running cyanogenmod 10.1 and after a few initial misgivings about it's lack of features compared to a sammy touchwiz rom ... i'm really starting to like the aosp feel and look..
Now after a year of owning the S3 i'm getting a bit restless and feel like a change.. the nexus 4 is the phone that's intriguing me most. So I have a really simple question, is it a sensible move to the 4 from the S3.
Carl.
Yes only if non removable battery or SD card is not a problem which I personally don't mind and the camera won't to better but around the same and no lte then I'd say go for it , it does give you a bang for your buck especially with development I use P.A which is awesome
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The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
Definitely get the phone. It's worth every penny. Root it and put Franco kernel and you're good for the entire day.
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Before I read everyone else's post I want to say I came from the gs3 had gs2. I would do it again in a heart beat. However it's not a super huge upgrade like it was from gs1 to gs2 or even gs2 to gs3. The software is where I enjoyed the phone the most.
I loved my screen on my gs2 and gs3 on this I wasn't impressed until I got used to it. Now I feel samsung screens have to much pop in the colors
Hope this made sense
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is the phone worth it, hell yeah for 350$ you can't get better. Is it worth it for you? You'll have to answer that question yourself.
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No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Assholes like you are why XDA has a bad reputation with newcomers. People come here FOR research, prick.
Go for it and join in all the fun on XDA! Cool
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Says the guy with one thanks.....
I called no one names But you, on the other hand broke XDA rules. Reported.
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Lol dat butthurt
Well the guy is trying to get perspective from people who actually own the device and use it day to day which is much different than reading any review from someone who might be biased in one way or another.
Maybe the op could have used a different subject or maybe asked what everyone thinks of the phone from actual owners.
Just something to consider before jumping to conclusions
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Not in love with the Nexus 4. Have had it since January when it replaced my SGS2 (T989). I really appreciated not having to search for the least buggy ROM, as the stock was nice but at this point I'm dissatisfied with the Camera, which seems to produce mostly mediocre pictures (sadly, and since my other devices and cameras produce better ones, I'm afraid it's not (usually) operator error); the screen, whose color palate I don't love and whose auto-brightness is chronically dim (which can of course be mostly remedied by not using auto-brightness, though wish I could), and lastly the touch sensitivity, which I may try to adress now—I understand there are fixes. Nevertheless, I'm gonna see what T-Mobile will sell me a SGS4 for...
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No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Perhaps next time if you've got nothing constructive to say, you should just refrain from posting...
great
tweaked said:
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Cheers for the help.. i've read dozens of reviews, spec lists and browsed many forums to get a decent idea of the phone, I thought i'd ask people who may have previously had the Galaxy line of phones and XDA seemed a logical place to do so..
I've been a registered member of this site for probably 2 years and never created a thread before, simply because of the very hostile and condescending attitude of some of the members and BINGO, you did yourself proud mate..
Carl.
N4 is awesome bro get one.i never regretted not buying a note2
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Why make a thread about is it worth it? :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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Want to buy Nexus 4. Still a good device?

Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!
I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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paranoid android85 said:
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.
Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.
He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.
Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.
I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
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If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.
just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
:good::good:
I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!

Whom to blame, Google or Asus?

Nexus 7 2013 has been out for almost a month and we keep seeing more hardware and software issues appearing. Is Google letting us down or Asus mass production issue? Your thought?
Storm in a teacup, all hardware and software will have glitches, the complainers are usually just the loudest ones in any forum
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More issues appearing? What are you talking about? Most of the software issues are patched now... And the hardware issues were with the first batch...
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This device rocks, software is not an issue if you're patient. Hardware seems like luck of the draw, with most being lucky. I think all the "issues" people are having shout the loudest 'cause people in general only want to hear the bad news.
I rooted my device in Linux with no issues, have changed roms multiple times and settled on PA, faux123's ES003 and love it. Great battery life, great speed, great sound, great screen, zero issues with multi-touch, no creaking or rattling (I refuse to shake or thump or twist my device), and I can get a GPS fix in my basement. Oh, and Bluetooth works, haven' t seen any light bleed, my charger doesn't hum or buzz, and the back is free of the blighted "oil slick". I am aware of all these issues because they are at the forefront of the forums continually, but I have yet to observe any of them first hand.
So, to get back to the OP's question: I think Google and Asus have both done well to create the best device I've ever owned. I blame both of them for building an inexpensive and powerful tablet.
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I have not experienced any issues so far but I was expecting a few seeing as we early adopters for the new Android versions. I think that is a good thing.
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Blame the consumer for finding issues but still keeps the device.
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Mine is great after update... With greatness always comes a few small wrinkles but when ironed out it's like it was never there
Sent 4rm my Paranoid Nexus 4.3 LTE...
Some of us go to a great length trying to find what is wrong with their device. If you ask for it you will get it lol.
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I don't know of many hardware issues. I think most were to blame on a faulty patch that Google pulled and replaced.
Most people replaced swapped out their tablets because of these but overall I think it was a successful launch. Not many hardware problems at all. Of course you'll get a few duds from every batch. Nothing alarming though.
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Nexus devices have always been "Dev" devices so the occasional hiccup is expected. Google, nor Asus is at fault. The important thing is that known issues have already been rectified. Nexus devices have always been Dev devices in the past. I think people are only posting bad news. I've had 2 new nexus 7s (exchanged 16gb for 32gb) and 0 Build quality issues.
Dude you're getting a $240 device with huge specs and you're complaining
Yes this device is awesome
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I think a lot of the complaining is coming from people just looking for problems. Its no surprise that if they are looking for them that they find something to complain about. Many of the "issues" I have seen discussed on here are either complete user error or someone being ridiculously anal. Seriously anyone returning a Nexus 7 because it makes a alight noise if you tap it near the camera, or you can hear the speakers buzz when you hold it within a mm of your ear, or because if you press down hard on the case near the Asus logo it creaks, should be banned from buying retail electronics. These kinds of people just drive costs up for the rest of us.
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If you want to see some real, legitimate issues...
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobile/mG4JXaT-SHs/doD54oeEJrUJ
Well over 100 so far...
I personally have had very few issues. I am very happy with this tablet. Even more than my first generation model which I also loved.
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Blame Google and Asus together. Most of the details should be improved.
So GPS lock issue is absolutely 100% gone?
danvee said:
If you want to see some real, legitimate issues...
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobile/mG4JXaT-SHs/doD54oeEJrUJ
Well over 100 so far...
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I guess you have to put this into relation to total sales and if you look at the percentage that will come up, I guess every manufacturer will have a similar one. 100 sounds alot but in relation to (just as example) 100.000 sold devices it is just 0.1%...sure you can always find something wrong with anything . I am very happy with my Nexus 7
Not when you note that a number of them have returned 2 or more units.
Also, it's not like they're being 'picky' about it. Random reboots, dead areas of the screen, non-working GPS are hardly minor issues that are easily overlooked.
Add to that the number of people who might have just returned the device, bought a different brand (or nothing) and didn't bother to search out or post to that site about the experience.
I bought a16gb nexus when they first came out. A year later I bought a 32gb one for my wife. When the nexus (2013) came out, I replaced mine with a new 32gb one. I passed my original down to my son. All perfect, and a delight to use. Hooked on qi charging with the new one.
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