Hi,
I'm a big Samsung fan, i've had the S1, S2 and currently own the S3..at the moment i'm running cyanogenmod 10.1 and after a few initial misgivings about it's lack of features compared to a sammy touchwiz rom ... i'm really starting to like the aosp feel and look..
Now after a year of owning the S3 i'm getting a bit restless and feel like a change.. the nexus 4 is the phone that's intriguing me most. So I have a really simple question, is it a sensible move to the 4 from the S3.
Carl.
Yes only if non removable battery or SD card is not a problem which I personally don't mind and the camera won't to better but around the same and no lte then I'd say go for it , it does give you a bang for your buck especially with development I use P.A which is awesome
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The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
Definitely get the phone. It's worth every penny. Root it and put Franco kernel and you're good for the entire day.
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Before I read everyone else's post I want to say I came from the gs3 had gs2. I would do it again in a heart beat. However it's not a super huge upgrade like it was from gs1 to gs2 or even gs2 to gs3. The software is where I enjoyed the phone the most.
I loved my screen on my gs2 and gs3 on this I wasn't impressed until I got used to it. Now I feel samsung screens have to much pop in the colors
Hope this made sense
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is the phone worth it, hell yeah for 350$ you can't get better. Is it worth it for you? You'll have to answer that question yourself.
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No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Assholes like you are why XDA has a bad reputation with newcomers. People come here FOR research, prick.
Go for it and join in all the fun on XDA! Cool
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Says the guy with one thanks.....
I called no one names But you, on the other hand broke XDA rules. Reported.
/waaaaa
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Lol dat butthurt
Well the guy is trying to get perspective from people who actually own the device and use it day to day which is much different than reading any review from someone who might be biased in one way or another.
Maybe the op could have used a different subject or maybe asked what everyone thinks of the phone from actual owners.
Just something to consider before jumping to conclusions
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Not in love with the Nexus 4. Have had it since January when it replaced my SGS2 (T989). I really appreciated not having to search for the least buggy ROM, as the stock was nice but at this point I'm dissatisfied with the Camera, which seems to produce mostly mediocre pictures (sadly, and since my other devices and cameras produce better ones, I'm afraid it's not (usually) operator error); the screen, whose color palate I don't love and whose auto-brightness is chronically dim (which can of course be mostly remedied by not using auto-brightness, though wish I could), and lastly the touch sensitivity, which I may try to adress now—I understand there are fixes. Nevertheless, I'm gonna see what T-Mobile will sell me a SGS4 for...
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No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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tweaked said:
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Cheers for the help.. i've read dozens of reviews, spec lists and browsed many forums to get a decent idea of the phone, I thought i'd ask people who may have previously had the Galaxy line of phones and XDA seemed a logical place to do so..
I've been a registered member of this site for probably 2 years and never created a thread before, simply because of the very hostile and condescending attitude of some of the members and BINGO, you did yourself proud mate..
Carl.
N4 is awesome bro get one.i never regretted not buying a note2
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Why make a thread about is it worth it? :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
I'll second that
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
Even one star is generous.
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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I haven't had any of those issues. In my experience, it's a very stable phone. Which leak are you referring to? The DroidX ROM containing the At&t mention?
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I can't...
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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How dare you make me defend my statements! ;-) So, regarding the browsing, I'm sure you've noticed that when you scroll with several images on the page the images lag begind the text. As far as loading is concerned, it's hard for me to say that it's not my network conditions, but my 3gs definitely seemed faster. After a little bit of research, I've found that other people complained of this too, but apparently you can change flash to "on-demand" to make general browsing lag-free (haven't confirmed this personally)
As far as the zig-zagged subpixels are concerned, it's a well known fact that Motorola used a pentile pixel matrix to cut costs. It's harder to tell with black on white, but look at any blue hyperlink on a white background, especially when zoomed out (image originally referenced from here).
The display response time has been noticed by others. I couldn't find any official specs to confirm this, but if I'm right that it's a problem then the lack of published response time specs wouldn't be surprising.
Data dropping out is also a well known issue. There's also a post on Motorola's support forum.
The brightness issue is subjective, but I've read a few places that the screen doesn't do to well in daylight. I'm not going to bother referencing this or my google voice problem, their just straws on the camel's back.
Finally, I'm not going to use some rumor that 2.3 is coming soon (how soon?) to push me past my 30-day return limit. Too arbitrary.
So, maybe you don't agree with everything I say, but I hope I just made it really hard for you to say you don't agree with anything I say while keeping a straight face
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Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
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I am actually a little unclear with what issues you have with the phone, most of this post just seems like you talking about liking the OS but not liking the AT&T service, HTC and motorola. You said very little about the phone itself.
to me it sounds like the best thing you should do is indeed jump ship from AT&T and go to verizon or something. As far as the "locking trend" from motorola and HTC.. i am assuming you are talking about the restrictions on sideloading and such. I may be wrong but i feel like this is an AT&T issue not motorola. Other providers that have HTC and Motorola dont seem to have as much issue (please correct me if i am wrong, i do not have too much experience with other providers) So dont worry this is not a sign of the future of android.
Sorry to hear you are not keeping the atrix, i have not had mine as long as you have but i love mine so far. Thanks for the input tho
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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I gotcha. Didn't mean to change the mood of your thread, just felt like ranting since I wish I could tell myself to keep the Atrix. I'm going to return my Atrix and hold out for six months at least to see what else comes out. I'm hoping the Galaxy S II will hit AT&T, but I am a bit jealous of my friend who gets 5mb+ on his Verizon iPhone4.
joelszs said:
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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Opera 11.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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Atrix is not what I expected either I had a better time when im using my captivate
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I love my captivate the Super AMOLED is amazing! but i feel like that is the only thing that beats the Atrix. Oh and the Captivate has a much better camera software.. but i shoot a DSLRs so it doesnt bother me.
Im thinking if AT&T gets the Galaxy S II, i might have to switch just cuz the Super AMOLED is AMAZING.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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i will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and i can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that i don't really need a phone :-o
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bwahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahha!!!
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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oh come on, that isn't fair!
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well there is a lot of thread people dont like and so on. i dont like locked bootloader perhaps its an amazing phone fast and the screen its weird because you can see pixels on the screen (why???) perhaps the bright under de sun on clarity i like more than my nexus one, webtop on hdmi its cool, the multimedia HD its pretty nice too,im returning (maybe) but to get another since i guess have a bad battery seems it dont last too mucho or maybe im so heavy user lol
well anyways good luck next device.
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To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc
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OMG, I can't believe little things ever matter! Seriously, the purpose of a forum is for discussion, and this one seems very one sided--everyone who likes their Atrix is just making smartass comments (except zen kun, thanks for contributing to the discussion).
If you don't like open discussion, why don't you move to China?
Does anyone know if there is still any place that sells brand new GT-I9020T Nexus S phones?
Best buy
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and will that work on T-Mobile 3G? I see that it is listed as an AT&T phone
You have to pick the Tmobile one. They sell all 3.
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are you sure? I don't see the T-Mobile Nexus S listed on their site...
Try a Store!
traded an htc sensation for mine. no regrets
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
wait seriously? how do you know?
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having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
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4.65" is including the part for "buttons" since they will be on the screen as there aren't any physical keys. so technically it isn't 4.65"
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/devices/doing-the-math-how-the-next-nexus-measures-up/
but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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Depends on your definition of "soon".
As of right now it looks like it will be released around November.
If you want a cynic's opinion, here it is: The Nexus S was old-hat before it was even released. The only benefit was the ease of unlocking and getting updates first, which sounds awesome until you realize that the initial versions of GB were massively buggy. I'd expect the same for ICS. Add to that the fact that HTC is making it so you can easily unlock all of their phones and the list of reasons why I would want one gets much, much shorter. Non-existent, in fact. I'm actively looking for a way to get my hands on a device with hardware that wasn't dated before the first model rolled off the line or wasn't succeeded months later by a phone with a key feature the original was lacking for a more than sub-par carrier. I've said it before, but to save you the trouble of reading it somewhere else, I should have learned my lesson about buying Samsung phones after the Epic 4g debacle but I didn't. I have now and I'll advise anyone against buying their POS devices.
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
AllGamer said:
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
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I'd say before the end of the year is "soon"
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what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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I think he was confused (as was I) by the fact that your conclusion didn't really follow from your argument. You complained about the phone being outdated and you complained about gingerbread being buggy and then you ended by concluding that you shouldn't have bought a Samsung phone. But everything you complained of was Google's doing.
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I just picked up an i9020t Nexus S knowing full well that the Nexus Prime is coming. You know why?
Refined Galaxy S hardware
Comfortable rounded edges (looking at you, captivate)
Great ROM support, with ICS on the horizon
Respectable battery life
Pretty freaking fast
So yeah, the phone's hardware is dated. However, the Nexus S is my favorite size and shape, and OC'ed to 1.2ghz with some speed hacks from different places, I can't even imagine wanting for more speed. Now, this is all my opinion, but you can land a Nexus S now for a reasonable price. So get one and have several happy months of hacking!
eBay
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Lg Optimus G - Locked bootloader
Htc One X+ - Locked bootloader.
Galaxy note II - Out of my price/size range regardless of bootloader.
Xperia TL- Locked bootloader
Galaxy S3 - may grab but, not really thrilled about it like I would have been a few months back.
Nexus 4 - not paying 400$+ for 16 gb of memory and lack of LTE.
I really don't feel like I'm being *that* picky with what I want... Dev Support, better battery life than my captivate, a nice (preferably ips) screen. Either 32 gigs of memory or expandable storage.. and ideally LTE.
Anyone else out there feel kinda like they don't have any "real" options for their next device? I'm stuck on a family plan at the moment and feel like at&t is trolling me to be quite honest.
I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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Shawn said:
I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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It's a real shame too. There are a lot of nice phones being locked down for no real clear cut reason.
I mean I understand that they will sell regardless of whether or not I buy any given phone.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.
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.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.
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People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.
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People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.
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While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.
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While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.
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A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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gagdude said:
A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.
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Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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It's my understanding the new nexus will be about the same size as the Gnex or AFAIK it is.
I don't care if it has carrier branding, I just want the ability to install the latest version of Cyanogen until I'm eligible for a new device.
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There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.
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Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.
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I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.
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Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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Oh no, I just have adhd tendencies like rambling.
At any rate, I am really hoping LG decides to throw out some way to unlock the bootloader. I'd really love to have a quad core device with an IPS display this time around.
I don't have anything against the SAMOLED displays but, I would personally prefer a sharper image to a more saturated image.
AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.
My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
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AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.
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I would wait for a little while at least and see if the Optimus G gets an unlocked bootloader.. it would be godmode then. But, I have to wait till Dec 1st anyway.
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My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
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Not entirely a bad thing.. Tmo has great selection of phones and AFAIK is a little more open with bootloaders and stuff.
I'm only getting the Nexus 4 because my current phone is pretty beaten and battered by now. (not to mention 2 years old)
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Would you trade your nexus 4 for a galaxy note 2? Would you be willing to add cash for the trade? What are your guys thoughts on this. Mods please don't close this is just a discussion thread that I'm sure many people have pondered before.
Trade for a non-Nexus phone? Why the hell would I ever even consider that?
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Trade for a non-Nexus phone? Why the hell would I ever even consider that?
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Bigger screen, spen, better battery life. Guess your the android equivalent to an iPhone fanboy!!
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i don't have the Nexus 4 (still waiting for shipment) but i never considered about buying a Note II instead the Nexus´ screen is just big enaugh i don't wan't to use 2 Hands for using a Phone that's horrible
I don't need a Goliath screen/phone size, and I find taking notes on a tablet more useful, if you are going to use it for that purpose.
I wouldnt mainly because this is pure android and updates instant
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I considered at first to get the note 2, but in comparison to the nexus 4 the price is so tempting!
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Guess your the android equivalent to an iPhone fanboy!!
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Seriously: just go away.
No way! Pure android is too amazing! Not to mention all the development that will revolve around this phone.
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Not a chance love my pure android way too much :good: I like to build my phone ie mods
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Seriously: just go away.
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Live a little, take a joke
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Bigger screen, spen, better battery life. Guess your the android equivalent to an iPhone fanboy!!
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You forgot a Note 2 feature: "No where near the community support and enthusiast development." We are all CM/AOKP fanboys.
Now leave.
I want to trade my nexus
I have a Nexus 4 16GB that i want to trade for Note 2 .
im from the uk. been trying to swap for a couple of days now. gone back to my S3 so i don't scratch it etc..
I know some people are not gonna be happy with this decision but there are some useful additional options to the Note 2 which will help me day to day.
Love the Nexus 4 and gonna be sad to see it go =( . I love the feel, screen, speed, and frustration free vanilla android 4.2.1.
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You forgot a Note 2 feature: "No where near the community support and enthusiast development." We are all CM/AOKP fanboys.
Now leave.
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So let me get this straight. Your all a bunch of jerks who want nobody to enter into your "community" because your all superior because you have a stock android experience? Telling people to get out of your thread isn't necessarily the best thing to do.
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Ok this is coming from a guy who have had a Note 2...Check my Sig and old posts youll see I was in the Att Note 2 Threads....ok to me both phones are excellent...I love both...but to me its all about what you like when it comes to these 2 phones...if you really dont like flashing too much and just like to get a rom and keep it for a good while and dont do too much modding to your phone than go Note 2...but if you love having a variety of choice, modding, tweaking than go Nexus...which is why I sold my Note 2...I LOVE FLASHING AND TWEAKING AND GETTING ON XDA EVERY CHANCE I GET LOL....but I would prefer the Nexus with a slight edge in this one...the phone is just a brillant piece of work...very slick...fast...beautiful....you gotta love it...but would I trade my Nexus???? Answer is yes if someone gave me the Note 2 and enough money to buy myself another Nexus 4...yea than we could trade....
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Ok this is coming from a guy who have had a Note 2...Check my Sig and old posts youll see I was in the Att Note 2 Threads....ok to me both phones are excellent...I love both...but to me its all about what you like when it comes to these 2 phones...if you really dont like flashing too much and just like to get a rom and keep it for a good while and dont do too much modding to your phone than go Note 2...but if you love having a variety of choice, modding, tweaking than go Nexus...which is why I sold my Note 2...I LOVE FLASHING AND TWEAKING AND GETTING ON XDA EVERY CHANCE I GET LOL....but I would prefer the Nexus with a slight edge in this one...the phone is just a brillant piece of work...very slick...fast...beautiful....you gotta love it...but would I trade my Nexus???? Answer is yes if someone gave me the Note 2 and enough money to buy myself another Nexus 4...yea than we could trade....
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Awesome post. Very well put. :beer:
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I had a Note 2 for a month, and why did I return it because of the screen. AMOLED is nice for blacks and such but having had a One X as my primary phone I'm just in love with IPS display. Much sharper overall, crisp text, natural colours, the N4 screen is on par with the One X. But I think the One X screen edges the N4 slightly. But would be happy with either.
I'm quite liking the N4, using stock Android is different to using a skinned version.
Both are good phones regardless, go for whatever your needs are.
Trade? Yes, add cash? No.
I can easily buy another n4, but am unwilling to shell out $650 for a note 2
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I was contemplating getting a Note 2 instead of the Nexus but experiencing slow updates from HTC I wanted the insurance Nexus phones had on future software updates
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So let me get this straight. Your all a bunch of jerks who want nobody to enter into your "community" because your all superior because you have a stock android experience? Telling people to get out of your thread isn't necessarily the best thing to do.
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1. No selling our trading outside the marketplace. No one would trade his N4 + $$ for a Note 2.
2. A very small percentage of users on the Nexus 4 subforum stick with stock.
3. There are many threads already comparing the Note 2 and the N4. In fact, there's a ton of threads criticizing the N4 and comparing it to pretty much every flagship phone out.
4. You haven't been gentlemanly and if you showed some manners, you'd get a more genial response. Remember that you came into our forum. Everyone here clearly is sticking with their N4.
I sold my old gnex to buy the new nexus 4 but when the nexus 4 came out I couldn't buy it and spent my money on something else. I have the money now but more high-end phones are coming out. Should I wait or the nexus 4 will be good for this year?
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do what you want. we cant tell you what to do with your money.
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I sold my old gnex to buy the new nexus 4 but when the nexus 4 came out I couldn't buy it and spent my money on something else. I have the money now but more high-end phones are coming out. Should I wait or the nexus 4 will be good for this year?
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If you wait, you will wait forever. Technology gets better by the day. Quite literally. For me, it's simple. I wouldn't buy anything else except for a Nexus device (or something similar). I bought the Nexus S, used it for two years, and now I bought the Nexus 4. I could wait another year for the next Nexus (or maybe the X phone from Motorola), but I'm not gonna. The Nexus 4 is very, VERY cheap for what it can. Heck, the Galaxy Nexus costs the same. And you pay twice as much for the iPhone 5. You could argue that the iPhone 5 is better (I don't think that, but it's not unreasonable if you do), but still... it's not nearly worth twice as much. The same goes for other phones that are 1.5x or 2x as expensive as the N4.
If I had the Gnex, I wouldn't have bought the N4. But since you already did; go for the N4.
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If you wait, you will wait forever. Technology gets better by the day. Quite literally. For me, it's simple. I wouldn't buy anything else except for a Nexus device (or something similar). I bought the Nexus S, used it for two years, and now I bought the Nexus 4. I could wait another year for the next Nexus (or maybe the X phone from Motorola), but I'm not gonna. The Nexus 4 is very, VERY cheap for what it can. Heck, the Galaxy Nexus costs the same. And you pay twice as much for the iPhone 5. You could argue that the iPhone 5 is better (I don't think that, but it's not unreasonable if you do), but still... it's not nearly worth twice as much. The same goes for other phones that are 1.5x or 2x as expensive as the N4.
If I had the Gnex, I wouldn't have bought the N4. But since you already did; go for the N4.
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You're right. That's what I wanted to hear, some motivation. Thanks and I agree with you that the iPhone is not better than the N4 considering factors that you mentioned above.
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You're right. That's what I wanted to hear, some motivation. Thanks and I agree with you that the iPhone is not better than the N4 considering factors that you mentioned above.
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It's sad to see posts just like this when people purposely post a new thread just so they feel better about themselves and their purchase. It's like walking in a apple store asking, should I buy a iphone 5? All you're going to get are biased posts.
It's your money, spend it how you like based on your own conclusions and not others
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do what you want. we cant tell you what to do with your money.
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Yes we can. If OP is so undecided about it they can just donate the money to ME and I'll spend it accordingly.
PS: So tired of these threads... if only I was a moderator.
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Yes we can. If OP is so undecided about it they can just donate the money to ME and I'll spend it accordingly.
PS: So tired of these threads... if only I was a moderator.
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Haha that's funny, same here man. There's always like three posts like this each day. It's a phone, the longer you wait, the better there'll be. In the end, Nexus devices have a longer life span.
Have fun buying that galaxy s3 running 4.1 still and getting the update six months later. Waiting for someone to say oh flash a rom, let's assume flashing wasn't possible. You get my drift.
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It's sad to see posts just like this when people purposely post a new thread just so they feel better about themselves and their purchase. It's like walking in a apple store asking, should I buy a iphone 5? All you're going to get are biased posts.
It's your money, spend it how you like based on your own conclusions and not others
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You're right. It has a name. The opposite of buyer's remorse.
But that doesn't mean that we can't name some good reason to buy the Nexus 4. The price, for example, is a very good reason. In the end, he probably already made a decision.
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You're right. It has a name. The opposite of buyer's remorse.
But that doesn't mean that we can't name some good reason to buy the Nexus 4. The price, for example, is a very good reason. In the end, he probably already made a decision.
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There's a thousand posts hi-liting the GOOD and BAD features of this phone already. The search function is a very useful tool.
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You're right. It has a name. The opposite of buyer's remorse.
But that doesn't mean that we can't name some good reason to buy the Nexus 4. The price, for example, is a very good reason. In the end, he probably already made a decision.
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It does have a name, it's called google search and he should use it. There are already a bunch of threads related to this topic and he should use it. I could make this same exact post on the s3 forums and link it here to show you that the posts we make are biased towards Nexus 4.
I'm not here to beg someone to get the phone. If they want the phone then get it, not because we as user's told him to because we want more people to have a n4
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If I had the choice to buy it again I wouldn't.
Why, because I already bought one of course...
Lol.
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I would say buy it if you can...Its a great phone and youll love it....its got great devs building for it also...so you cant lose with this phone....Even though I dont have the phone anymore I still recommend it....Ive went to the international note 2 which I love...Its just a pure powerhouse of a phone lol....but the if you buy the N4 you wont regret it at all....lol youll come back and thank me if you decide to purchase it....
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I would say buy it if you can...Its a great phone and youll love it....its got great devs building for it also...so you cant lose with this phone....Even though I dont have the phone anymore I still recommend it....Ive went to the international note 2 which I love...Its just a pure powerhouse of a phone lol....but the if you buy the N4 you wont regret it at all....lol youll come back and thank me if you decide to purchase it....
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Nexus 4 is a beast with Franco's kernel :thumbup:
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Buy it if you want. It doesn't really matter, all the posts here are going to be biased. If you posted on the HTC one forum, they'll tell you to get that phone over n4 blah blah blah.
Do what makes you happy and conclude on your own thoughts. Not to satisfy other people.
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I just ordered one for my technophobe wife. She's gonna love it whether she likes it or not :beer:
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Haha that's funny, same here man. There's always like three posts like this each day. It's a phone, the longer you wait, the better there'll be. In the end, Nexus devices have a longer life span.
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When the Nexus 4 first launched... it was pretty obvious there wouldn't be another Nexus phone for a good while. Now, there's talk of the Nexus 5, and we have no idea what'll be announced at I/O, and there's talk of something else being released around October/November this year.
If you have patience, I'd wait to see what'll be announced at I/O. I doubt a new phone will be announced, but who knows. If you have even greater patience, you could wait until Oct/Nov. If you believe you can resell the device close to what you bought it for, buy the N4 now, and then decide on if you want to resell it if a new Nexus phone is announced at either points in time.
I have no patience, but believe I can resell my N4 if need-be. I don't think a phone will be announced at I/O, so I bought a N4 yesterday
I remember buying my 8GB Nexus 7, and a few weeks later, it got discontinued, with the 16GB taking its place for the same price. Was really disappointed, but still kept my N7 and enjoyed it.
As far as I concerned, if it ain't a Nexus device it ain't worth buying unless the manufacturers wake up and start offering some vanilla goodness along with their proprietary crap!
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Get while it's still the hottest bad boy device around!
at least wait until 5/15 for google io. Pretty strong rumors it will at least come with a minor update for LTE and storage upgrade. Maybe even N5 will be released. Buying an android 6months after release for the same price is usually a bad idea.
Yeah I'm glad I got the nexus 4. It meets my needs and it's got pure android which I love
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