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So... is this the flicker problem

Sometimes while watching the screen, every now and then I get a flicker, I only noticed it when I was staring at the screen reading a book, if so I am sad because my OTG cable just arrived and I was having so much fun

Your life is ruined.:thumbdown:
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well... at least it works and theres no other horrible problems so I can still play with it until google send me a new unit :silly:
Reckon I should wait a few months so I guarentee a unit from the new batch, or just do it now?

You know what. As I was reading your post I started to see tons of flickering. Thanks a lot. Lol jk. Better now than later. I'm still in my 15 day window

I'm stuck dealing with Asus.
I'm leaving the country for a 3 week vacay so I can't deal with a 4th exchange from Google Play.

davidcampbell said:
well... at least it works and theres no other horrible problems so I can still play with it until google send me a new unit :silly:
Reckon I should wait a few months so I guarentee a unit from the new batch, or just do it now?
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I think it's worth a shot. My replacement is perfect, much like many of the initial batch / recipients. Risk you take, right?, jumping on that first wave. Seems like things have settle down, think the negative outcry is just more easily heard thAn the positive.
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Definitely going ahead and do an exchange now. Got my replacement unit today and this one doesn't have a flicker problem at all. My last one had really bad flicker.
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Well I only got it last week so that makes it better if I submit that its faulty at this point..

might seem like a stupid question, but where the hell do I go to organize a replacement

I've seen the flicker on mine and called to replace it. I was told to try a factory reset to see if it was hardware or software. I said I'd try tomorrow and call back/set up replacement if it doesn't work. What do guys think? Could it be software?
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[Q] Dead Nexus?

Hello there. I went to Los Angeles last month and after a little research on tablet pcs, I decided to buy a nexus for my wife. Since I had no time to order it online, decided to visit a retail store at Santa Monica called Macmall.
I was bringing this as a gift, so I bought it and opened it right away just to make sure it was working properly.
So, I went back to argentina, wife happy with her nexus, until yesterday.
She came crying saying that the nexus was broken.
The screen is showing nothing but vertical lines. The touchscreen is responding to finger swipes and sound works, but of course all of that is useless since screen is defective.
She swears she didn't hit, drop or wet the tablet pc, I did check it many times and it has absolutely no signs of mistreatment.
I turned it off, soft reset pressing power for ten seconds, removed the cover and the battery, and once, I was able to see the Google logo properly but quickly vanished into lines again.
So... What options do you think I have?
Nexus is not being sold on my country and Google is giving me no support at all.
I contacted Asus through their website, still waiting for an answer but I'm not sure if they will help since I'm far away from USA.
I'll appreciate any help, or piece of advice you can give me.

You might be in luck. I had a problem with the speaker once, thinking it was the hardware, and I thought I would have to return it. I think for fixing your screen problem, you should reflash the stock Rom. If you are unfamiliar with what I am trying to say, it is basically like reinstalling the stock Operating System (Android). Find out how to reflash the stock Rom. Since you could see the Google logo properly, i'm pretty sure it isn't hardware. Might just be a corrupted stock Rom. Here is a guide that should work: Click Here. It will wipe all of your data/storage so it will be like your Nexus 7 came out of the box.
Best of luck recovering it!
Edit: What is also very weird is it seems like it happened suddenly. Not out of the box, but randomly.

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You might be in luck. I had a problem with the speaker once, thinking it was the hardware, and I thought I would have to return it. I think for fixing your screen problem, you should reflash the stock Rom. If you are unfamiliar with what I am trying to say, it is basically like reinstalling the stock Operating System (Android). Find out how to reflash the stock Rom. Since you could see the Google logo properly, i'm pretty sure it isn't hardware. Might just be a corrupted stock Rom. Here is a guide that should
Edit: What is also very weird is it seems like it happened suddenly. Not out of the box, but randomly.
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Thanks for the answer. I may have not expressed myself correctly.
I'm not seeing anything on the screen but those annoying vertical lines.
After removing the battery a few times, once showed me the Google logo, just a one second flash, and then the lines again.
The only person I saw with this very same problem, had it as you said, straight from the box.
I asked my wife and she updated the nexus a few days ago and barely used it, so even if it sounds weird it could be a software issue.
Question is, will I be able to reinstall the stock OS just guessing where to push, I mean, with only those lines on the screen. I'm like... Blindfolded

alechair said:
Thanks for the answer. I may have not expressed myself correctly.
I'm not seeing anything on the screen but those annoying vertical lines.
After removing the battery a few times, once showed me the Google logo, just a one second flash, and then the lines again.
The only person I saw with this very same problem, had it as you said, straight from the box.
I asked my wife and she updated the nexus a few days ago and barely used it, so even if it sounds weird it could be a software issue.
Question is, will I be able to reinstall the stock OS just guessing where to push, I mean, with only those lines on the screen. I'm like... Blindfolded
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Oh now I see. First, anyway, do not manually remove your battery. That might affect something. To force shutdown hold down the volume down and power button for about 10-20 seconds until it turns off. Now, with the vertical lines, now i'm pretty sure since you clarified, it is the software. I think I know a fix for reflashing the stock Rom. Use this toolkit: Here. Click the option "Flash stock and unroot". Try that and it will Flash stock. Try software updating once it works and you could boot up without the problem. If it still has the problem if you software update (Unlikely), then just do that again and keep it at stock version.
Hope this helps!

Ryan35310 said:
Oh now I see. First, anyway, do not manually remove your battery. That might affect something. To force shutdown hold down the volume down and power button for about 10-20 seconds until it turns off. Now, with the vertical lines, now i'm pretty sure since you clarified, it is the software. I think I know a fix for reflashing the stock Rom. Use this toolkit:Here. Click the option "Flash stock and unroot". Try that and it will Flash stock. Try software updating once it works and you could boot up without the problem. If it still has the problem if you software update (Unlikely), then just do that again and keep it at stock version.
Hope this helps!
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Once again, thanks.:good:
I'm still not allowed to post any URLs, but I found a video on youtube of a guy with exactly the same problem.
Just search "Jon417silka nexus" and you'll see it.
I'm dowloading this NexusRootToolkit you recommended, it's +200MB so it'll take a while.
I have no skills on flashing or rooting any device, but I have read the instructions and doesn't seem to be too complicated.
I'll be awake all night trying to solve it if it's necessary.
I'll let you know how it went in a few hours.

Well... I finally downloaded the nexus root toolkit.
It was kinda easy actually, just had some hard time trying to enable the USB debugging mode, since... well i can't see anything on the screen.
I was able to download the drivers, and run the stock rom but, unfortunately, no luck on the screen.
Im just seeing green lines which i assume is the green android logo on the center on the first boot or something.
by the way, google answered me today saying somthing like, they cant do anything since im outside the us, so i have to contact asus.

It's too bad flashing the stock rom didn't fix it, I'd say it seems to be a hardware problem.
Even if you were in USA, google will only help you if you bought it within 14 days from Google Play Store.
You should call Asus Argentina [ http://latin.asus.com/Static_WebPage/Service_center_argentina/ ] and explain what is wrong, and give them the serial number. The number is located somewhere on the box, and on a removable sticker on the bottom back of the Nexus [As well as in the Settings, but you cannot read the screen so that is useless]. If you can't find the serial number, you might be able to get it via adb, but I'm not sure.
Asus has a 1 year warranty on tablets, but I'm not completely positive what they will say since it was bought in USA, and you are now in Argentina. But hopefully they will be able to RMA it and repair/replace your device. gl!

Yeah, it has to be hardware. I think you should follow Sikagoon7's advice and return it because it is under law. It couldn't be your or your wife's fault, because as you described, there were no scratches or anything. I guess it just might be a bad device. Replace it because the Nexus 7 is so worth it.

Probly gpu chipset. Its getting distorting at high frequency. Since first logo is a small frequency image and some times provided for BIOS its show normal. (Thats my guess)
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I was giving up all my hopes on this, plugged the nexus to the computer and clicked the OEM lock to return to its original factory state.
You know... I don't want them to say my warranty it's void for messing with it.
Of course, I didn't noticed any changes, swiped my finger a couple times and then...
WHAT THE....
The lines vanished and screen started to function properly, a few lines were noticeable for a few moments, now the screen is fine.
Now things got even weirder...
My wife it's been using it for two hours, with Monsters Ate My Condo (which may be pushing the cpu a little bit) and it's working flawlessly.
Problem is... I'm pretty sure that if the screen turns off it will die again.
Is there a way to keep the nexus always on, never go to sleep, just dim the screen to minium brightness or something...
Any other solution you guys think i can try is also welcome.
Please understand that returning this to Asus will be my last resort (if they decide to accept it, which I'm not sure).
Once again, thanks for everyone's time and replies

If you can not turn off your screen without it breaking it I would RMA it back to Asus.

Travisdroidx2 said:
If you can not turn off your screen without it breaking it I would RMA it back to Asus.
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Well... It worked properly for two hours, now it died again.
I wanted RMA to be my last resort, but I'm running out of options here...

Did you already start the RMA process?
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Did you already start the RMA process?
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No, I haven't.
I don't even know where to start...
The fact that I live in Argentina may be a complication.
Since Asus is does not sell the Nexus here, they probably won't help me at all.
And the distance may be a problem since shipping to USA is quite expensive.
I contacted Asus via their global website, still waiting for an answer.

This option kind of sucks but maybe you should sell it cheaper to someone on xda have them use the warranty exchange and you could buy another one also possibly from xda. Like i said it sucks but it may be your best option at this point.
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Also make sure to link back to this thread if you decide to take that route.
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I'm gonna bump this old thread I started about a year ago, to share with you guys the rest of the story.
I contacted north american ASUS RMA by email since Google is not taking any responsibility for their tablet.
And latin american ASUS won't take my warranty as valid.
I tried to explain my complicated situation to the RMA guy. It was a little hard to understand since my english is not flawless.
But I had a friend flying to united states, he carried my broken nexus with him and sent it to repair as soon as he arrived.
Tricky part was: he was only staying for 10 days. So ASUS had ten days to receive, repair, and send the Nexus back to my friend so he could bring it to Argentina.
I crossed my fingers and decided to wait, fortunately they did a good job and now it's working back again.
However I noticed the battery doesn't lasts for as long as I expected...
Anyway thanks to everyone for sharing ideas and for your time.

my nexus 7 is acting on it's own..

first of all i'm from Malaysia and i bought my nexus 7 from a electronics company called "senheng" roughly more than a month ago..i was pretty satisfied with it until recently all the bugs and defects are starting to annoy me A LOT...
1) sometimes the touch screen is not responsive.i try pulling down the notification tray but it doesnt get pull down..
2) they are black lines on the screen sometimes when playing games or surfing facebook..it does happened quite often although it only appears for a split second.
3) this is the worst defect of all.sometimes the tablet acts on it's own,it's like it's having a mind of it's own.it would just jump back to the homescreen, swipe around and open up apps on it's own when i'm actually using the tablet.Basically it's like a ghost is using the tablet. So i try to find the cause of this problem and i'hv found than whenever i try to swipe around really quick the tablet will become not responsive for a while and it'll start acting on it's own, so i feel that there's a problem with the touch screen panel.
I went back to "senheng" the other day, hoping that they would replace a new tablet for me but they refuse to, so most probably i'm going to ring up ASUS tomorrow to report about my problems and hope that they would replace me a new unit. My main problem is the 3rd, i can live with the other two but the 3rd one is seriously bugging me.
Is anyone having the same problem as me? If so, what did u do to solve it?
p/s : i'm on stock 4.2 rooted...

Sounds like your touch screen is screwed. You shouldn't be getting lines on the screen.
Also there was some bugs with the touch drivers in the early stages. Have you updated to 4.1.2 or 4.2? Knowing your version would give better results.
Why did they "refuse" you a replacement? Is it damaged? Over the return limit?
I know this may have a moral stance, but I don't think anyone could tell a N7 apart from another N7. The serial number is on a plastic sticker that is easily removed. You could possibly purchase a new one, swap devices, and return the old one/new box. Or buy a new one and use it until Asus repairs your old one... then return it.
I've returned 2 [I fried one with a bad bootloader and swapped a 16 for a 32 (paying the difference obviously)]. They all just opened the box to make sure there were no obvious physical damage. The back cover isn't "meant" to come off, so they won't tear it down in the store.
If you want to physically kill one, download and flash a Samsung Galaxy Nexus bootloader. It won't even power on. No power + No Sticker = no way to tell.
The only reason I'm saying this is simply because store policies shouldn't be too strict on their exchanges for defective units. I've had equipment fail just after 30 days and you are left with junk. I understand 30 days is there for a reason and it is a good policy, but it should be a fine line. A day or two shouldn't matter.

player911 said:
Sounds like your touch screen is screwed. You shouldn't be getting lines on the screen.
Also there was some bugs with the touch drivers in the early stages. Have you updated to 4.1.2 or 4.2? Knowing your version would give better results.
Why did they "refuse" you a replacement? Is it damaged? Over the return limit?
I know this may have a moral stance, but I don't think anyone could tell a N7 apart from another N7. The serial number is on a plastic sticker that is easily removed. You could possibly purchase a new one, swap devices, and return the old one/new box. Or buy a new one and use it until Asus repairs your old one... then return it.
I've returned 2 [I fried one with a bad bootloader and swapped a 16 for a 32 (paying the difference obviously)]. They all just opened the box to make sure there were no obvious physical damage. The back cover isn't "meant" to come off, so they won't tear it down in the store.
If you want to physically kill one, download and flash a Samsung Galaxy Nexus bootloader. It won't even power on. No power + No Sticker = no way to tell.
The only reason I'm saying this is simply because store policies shouldn't be too strict on their exchanges for defective units. I've had equipment fail just after 30 days and you are left with junk. I understand 30 days is there for a reason and it is a good policy, but it should be a fine line. A day or two shouldn't matter.
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ya i'm on stock 4.2 rooted(sorry i forgot to state that)..
they wouldnt replace me a new one cuz they said that they're gonna have to repair it and bla bla bla..i mean come on, the whole touch screen panel is screwed and they want to try fixing it?! my warranty is not over yet, it has a 2 year warranty.
i dont think we can actually return the tablet within 14days here in Malaysia, we dont have this kind of policy(not sure).
what do u mean for me to physically kill one? u mean i should just killed it and return to the store for them to replace a new one?

My touch screen also has started flaking out as you describe from time to time. Took it back to the store but do you think it would do it then? No, it acted normal until I got home.
Going back there tomorrow to hope it plays up at the right time.
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dr.m0x said:
My touch screen also has started flaking out as you describe from time to time. Took it back to the store but do you think it would do it then? No, it acted normal until I got home.
Going back there tomorrow to hope it plays up at the right time.
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i actually recorded the whole thing with my galaxy nexus so i'm gonna show them it..

Ninja move with the recording :good:
Fortunately I havent had these issues on my 32gb N7. One would think it would be under ASUS manufacturer warranty. I know its a last resort but if you have to then unroot and relock the boot loader and send it back to ASUS. I know the idea of not having your tablet for a while is crappy but if that's the only option...
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Ninja move with the recording :good:
Fortunately I havent had these issues on my 32gb N7. One would think it would be under ASUS manufacturer warranty. I know its a last resort but if you have to then unroot and relock the boot loader and send it back to ASUS. I know the idea of not having your tablet for a while is crappy but if that's the only option...
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i think asus dont really mind rooting and unlocking the bootloader of the device..
anyways, i'm gonna go to asus service centre today and hopefully they'll replace my unit with a new one...lol

Idk if they do or not. That's just the general rule of thumb when sending a device back for repair/exchange. Mainly BC they can say the issue may have been caused as a result of you unlocking and rooting your N7. That's why Google threw in the disclaimer when a boot loader unlock is attempted.
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[Q] Section of touch screen not working

Please see attachment, it is a screenshot similar to the problem I have.
A part of the screen is not touch-respondsive. It only happened recently, never had this problem before.
Possible to fix? I have trouble unlocking the 9 dots pattern everytime I turn on the phone because of this problem.
Please help, thanks.

Never mind, flashed a different kernal and its working now.
edit: Wait, no it's still there.
update: I wiped everything and installed factory 4.2.2 patch (occam-jdq39-factory-345dc199.tgz) but still cannot fix this problem. Please help!
update: Tried this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027476 still not working :crying:
update: This also not working for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163924... possible hardware issue?
verdict: I will live with this for now, after 1 day and still can't fix it then I will contact google hopefully for a replacement.

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I am having the exact same issue. That almost makes me think it could be a software issue but you said you already did a factory reset.
The weird thing is that it looks like the same part of the screen. Its a horizontal section in the very middle.
My best conclusions are that its the digitizer. It just started happening out of no where though. Very frustrating. Makes it impossible to hit the send button on the stock messaging app without minimizing the keyboard! I take excellent care of my Nexus 4. It has a case and it hasn't been dropped. It hardly has a scratch on it! Its a month old.
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Strongertyer I can feel your frustration.
Here's mine (the one in my op was found from google). Mine is a bit lower, it blocks the top half of the qwer line on the keyboard and the yes/no buttons on prompt windows.
I can still type qwer just fine by pressing the bottom half of the keys, but for the the prompts I have to tilt and rotate the screen every time so the buttons aren't under the "dead zone".
Strongtyer are you also thinking of sending the phone back to Google?
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Just talked to support and they seemed helpful. However, his first suggestion was to do a factory reset of course. He said if that didn't work then I could send my phone back for a replacement. Did a factory reset and still the same issue. Looks like I'll be calling again tomorrow.
I guess the plus side is that they send brand new phones and not just refurbished ones.
Any luck on your end?
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I gave up fixing it already as you can see in my 2nd post and I believe it is not possible to fix it other than having the whole screen replaced, so I asked directly for a replacement under warranty. Then after a brief moment google emailed me a set of instructions for packing the phone.
So on Sunday evening I booked the courier, printed the documents, picked everything back in the box, warped and taped it. And today the courier came and collected my phone.
Now I have to use my good old HTC Legend again. However it uses regular SIM card, so I had a bit of fun making myself an adapter to up size the Nexus 4's micro-sim!

I talked to Google today and they are sending me a replacement. They told me I can keep the phone till the new one arrives. I just have to return it within 21 days.
Just crossing my fingers that they don't say the damage is my fault. I don't know how o could have caused it. I haven't does it and I take really good care of it.
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Same problem
I do have a same touch screen problem.
Sliding vertically is not smooth and cannot clicking, but swiping horizontally is working.

im also having this problem but i dont live in the US. how can i go about fixing it?

redsuns said:
im also having this problem but i dont live in the US. how can i go about fixing it?
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You should contact google anyway if you want a warranty replacement. Go to the link below, click contact google, answer a few check box questions and there should be a phone number.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2411741?hl=en&ref_topic=2803008
Because I believe that the only way to fix this is to have the screen replaced.

Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...

herrieherrie said:
Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
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Welcome to xda-developers. Your English is fine.
You should contact Google.
Interesting that you mention the newer version of the phone -- I'd be interested in knowing if this is in fact a result of a newer manufacturing process, different materials, or maybe the place of manufacture (Korea or China). The place of manufacture can be identified by the letter in the fourth position of the serial number found on the box.

can someone update us on this issue? I have the same problem and i am so sad! I saved up 8 months to get this phone!

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herrieherrie said:
Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
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yup just to chime in same problem here too .. its pretty widespread !

Same ISsue - Nexus 4
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yup just to chime in same problem here too .. its pretty widespread !
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well, its certainly a hardware issue.
Digitizer, for what I know.
But no easy solution.
Would have happened due to the faulty charger.
But google is not helping!

I have the same exact issue. Playing PVZ2 is now extra difficult because of this issue.
Is there any other fix other than an RMA (currently not in the US)? :crying:

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I have the same exact issue. Playing PVZ2 is now extra difficult because of this issue.
Is there any other fix other than an RMA (currently not in the US)? :crying:
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Fixed with the update to KitKat!
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Fixed with the update to KitKat!
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I have this same screen issue. Mine is is first row from top which makes it very frustrating. I am on 4.4.2 and still have this issue.
Can you describe what you've tried in more detail?

I have the same problem but mine is like 2 inches from the bottom of the screen. I can use the softkeys in portrait but they are unusable in landscape. I have had the phone since Nov 12 so sadly my phone is now out of warranty. LG's approved repair centre want £95 for a new screen. I am thinking maybe buy a Nexus 5 and trade this in for £70. I could sell it for like £130 but I would feel bad selling a phone I know the screen is on its last legs.

Buy now or wait a couple of month?

Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.

Buy it, you'll love it. If not you can always return the device. I have the 32gb for over a month now and never had any problems with it. It runs great out of the box
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https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]

IMO all the problems are < 1% problems except
GPS - fixed
touchscreen issues - workaround for 70-80% of bad units
random reboots - still ongoing

You're missing out on a great device while you're waiting. There's nothing wrong with either my wifi or my lte N7. I bought the wifi n7 early enough to see what the GPS issue was, but that was completely fixed with a system update. I don't see the multi touch issue or the random reboots. I did have one reboot on one of my tablets, but that was immediately after I plugged in a micro USB reader, so it was pretty obviously the cause. I have a Samsung Note 8 also, and I can tell you both my N7s work far, far more reliably. neither of my N7s have the very annoying random freezes of my Note 8. Buy one, and if you find something wrong with it, return it. Simple enough.
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kisrita said:
You're missing out on a great device while you're waiting. There's nothing wrong with either my wifi or my lte N7. I bought the wifi n7 early enough to see what the GPS issue was, but that was completely fixed with a system update. I don't see the multi touch issue or the random reboots. I did have one reboot on one of my tablets, but that was immediately after I plugged in a micro USB reader, so it was pretty obviously the cause. I have a Samsung Note 8 also, and I can tell you both my N7s work far, far more reliably. neither of my N7s have the very annoying random freezes of my Note 8. Buy one, and if you find something wrong with it, return it. Simple enough.
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This. If these reported problems are common then I'm one of the lucky ones. Not a single problem with mine and it works beautifully. Easily the best buy of any comparable tablet.

I'm curious to see what ROMs and development support the Kindle HDX will have. Hopefully more developers will take full advantage of its better hardware and if so, that would be something I would consider for the same price.

sfhub said:
IMO all the problems are < 1% problems except
GPS - fixed
touchscreen issues - workaround for 70-80% of bad units
random reboots - still ongoing
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Should be noted that sfhub is totally to be credited for the 70-80% fixed units via his workaround. Google/ASUS is still floundering.
Kudos! :beer:
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[*] Random screen freezes for 2-10 seconds.

You can always wait, but you will be missing out on a great tablet. :silly:

How can I answer Yes or No to an either /or question? :silly:

so should I return my one with touch/grounding issues for a new one or just wait for an update?!
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deewad said:
so should I return my one with touch/grounding issues for a new one or just wait for an update?!
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 4
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Return, and keep returning until you get a 'good' one...

Username invalid said:
I'm curious to see what ROMs and development support the Kindle HDX will have. Hopefully more developers will take full advantage of its better hardware and if so, that would be something I would consider for the same price.
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Kernel source will probably be an issue so no hardware acceleration
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m+a+r+k said:
How can I answer Yes or No to an either /or question? :silly:
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Well, excellent point...I don't know why I didn't notice it until now...
Ah well, if anyone has any doubts, let's put Yes for buying it now and No for waiting.
Anyways, thanks everyone for your input, it's very much appreciated
Most people seem to have good experiences with this device, even though there's the casual hiccup (few reboots and the like). I suppose I could always return the device and wait some more month if there's any mayor issue with it.

Trebuchetino said:
Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.
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I voted yes before I saw you wanted a 16GB version. So, I change to no.
I first got a 16GB with many problems. Later got 32GB and with updates its working fine.
If you cannot return the 16GB it is a big risk (my opinion, obviously biased), but if return allowed you should be safe.

Bob Smith42 said:
I voted yes before I saw you wanted a 16GB version. So, I change to no.
I first got a 16GB with many problems. Later got 32GB and with updates its working fine.
If you cannot return the 16GB it is a big risk (my opinion, obviously biased), but if return allowed you should be safe.
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Interesting...Do other people have less or none issues with their 32GB device? Shouldn't it have the same issues, considering it's almost the same device?

Asus just used several different brands of LCD. The problem started with Google released a patch that fixed the few that had issues and now the majority have issues. Some were fixed and some were broken. Some are hardware related (with deadzones) but most are correctable. There are several patches available already from Sfhub in this forum. It takes a little trial and error to find a good one FOR YOU but it works.
Exchanging them until you find one that works doesn't mean it will work after you update a few Google updates. My 32gb was flawless out of the box until the 2nd update "touchscreen fix" that introduced the bug to most.
Fortunately it is found that it is correctable with a software fix and we're just waiting on Google to give us a good fix that encompasses all screen types.
If you want to pick one up, I'd suggest you should do so, especially if you are comfortable with flashing community fixes. I don't have any issues after the patch was flashed. Its also real easy to do.
So the N7 doesn't really have any big flaws hardware wise, which seems like it is just a buggy touchscreen driver or a combination of one driver not working the best across multiple screens. Google will fix it. I'm sure of it.
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Buy it now!

There seems to be a lot of focus on the touch screen issue for good reason. There is little focus on the RANDOM RESTART/REBOOT ISSUE.
I personally have had no touchscreen issues in my 2 units. I returned the first unit for multiple random restarts/reboots.
My second unit went through 3 on Wednesday in quick succession for some unknown reason but has been stable since then and previously stable for 150 hours (6 ish days). If you are curious, here is the google product forum with posts about random restarts/reboots. To date it is unacknowledged by Google and is extremely frustrating for me not knowing if the device will randomly choose to reboot.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-7/mG4JXaT-SHs%5B926-950-false%5D
The device is now 20 days old and I have 10 left in my "exchange" window with my supplier. Theytypically want to replicate issues prior to exchanging which is an interesting dilemma for a random event. My first device rebooted a lot during youtube videos and I was able to replicate that for them. This current unit has recently shut down prior to google app updates.This is not a reboot exactly as it sounds the shutdown tone and then requires a manual restart to find a google app (gmail once, maps once and dont remember the third) awaiting to be d/l'd or installed.
Don't forget the uncertainty of random reboots!!! Annoying, frustrating, not as functionally impacting as a touch screen that doesn't work but still a significant defect.
H/W; S/W; H/W Marginality (timing most likely or ram issues)??? who knows

Trebuchetino said:
Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.
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For me I'll wait until LG G Pad 8.3 release maybe next month, will beat N7, but the only downside with LG is UPDATES.