Related
Hello there. I went to Los Angeles last month and after a little research on tablet pcs, I decided to buy a nexus for my wife. Since I had no time to order it online, decided to visit a retail store at Santa Monica called Macmall.
I was bringing this as a gift, so I bought it and opened it right away just to make sure it was working properly.
So, I went back to argentina, wife happy with her nexus, until yesterday.
She came crying saying that the nexus was broken.
The screen is showing nothing but vertical lines. The touchscreen is responding to finger swipes and sound works, but of course all of that is useless since screen is defective.
She swears she didn't hit, drop or wet the tablet pc, I did check it many times and it has absolutely no signs of mistreatment.
I turned it off, soft reset pressing power for ten seconds, removed the cover and the battery, and once, I was able to see the Google logo properly but quickly vanished into lines again.
So... What options do you think I have?
Nexus is not being sold on my country and Google is giving me no support at all.
I contacted Asus through their website, still waiting for an answer but I'm not sure if they will help since I'm far away from USA.
I'll appreciate any help, or piece of advice you can give me.
You might be in luck. I had a problem with the speaker once, thinking it was the hardware, and I thought I would have to return it. I think for fixing your screen problem, you should reflash the stock Rom. If you are unfamiliar with what I am trying to say, it is basically like reinstalling the stock Operating System (Android). Find out how to reflash the stock Rom. Since you could see the Google logo properly, i'm pretty sure it isn't hardware. Might just be a corrupted stock Rom. Here is a guide that should work: Click Here. It will wipe all of your data/storage so it will be like your Nexus 7 came out of the box.
Best of luck recovering it!
Edit: What is also very weird is it seems like it happened suddenly. Not out of the box, but randomly.
Ryan35310 said:
You might be in luck. I had a problem with the speaker once, thinking it was the hardware, and I thought I would have to return it. I think for fixing your screen problem, you should reflash the stock Rom. If you are unfamiliar with what I am trying to say, it is basically like reinstalling the stock Operating System (Android). Find out how to reflash the stock Rom. Since you could see the Google logo properly, i'm pretty sure it isn't hardware. Might just be a corrupted stock Rom. Here is a guide that should
Edit: What is also very weird is it seems like it happened suddenly. Not out of the box, but randomly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the answer. I may have not expressed myself correctly.
I'm not seeing anything on the screen but those annoying vertical lines.
After removing the battery a few times, once showed me the Google logo, just a one second flash, and then the lines again.
The only person I saw with this very same problem, had it as you said, straight from the box.
I asked my wife and she updated the nexus a few days ago and barely used it, so even if it sounds weird it could be a software issue.
Question is, will I be able to reinstall the stock OS just guessing where to push, I mean, with only those lines on the screen. I'm like... Blindfolded
alechair said:
Thanks for the answer. I may have not expressed myself correctly.
I'm not seeing anything on the screen but those annoying vertical lines.
After removing the battery a few times, once showed me the Google logo, just a one second flash, and then the lines again.
The only person I saw with this very same problem, had it as you said, straight from the box.
I asked my wife and she updated the nexus a few days ago and barely used it, so even if it sounds weird it could be a software issue.
Question is, will I be able to reinstall the stock OS just guessing where to push, I mean, with only those lines on the screen. I'm like... Blindfolded
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh now I see. First, anyway, do not manually remove your battery. That might affect something. To force shutdown hold down the volume down and power button for about 10-20 seconds until it turns off. Now, with the vertical lines, now i'm pretty sure since you clarified, it is the software. I think I know a fix for reflashing the stock Rom. Use this toolkit: Here. Click the option "Flash stock and unroot". Try that and it will Flash stock. Try software updating once it works and you could boot up without the problem. If it still has the problem if you software update (Unlikely), then just do that again and keep it at stock version.
Hope this helps!
Ryan35310 said:
Oh now I see. First, anyway, do not manually remove your battery. That might affect something. To force shutdown hold down the volume down and power button for about 10-20 seconds until it turns off. Now, with the vertical lines, now i'm pretty sure since you clarified, it is the software. I think I know a fix for reflashing the stock Rom. Use this toolkit:Here. Click the option "Flash stock and unroot". Try that and it will Flash stock. Try software updating once it works and you could boot up without the problem. If it still has the problem if you software update (Unlikely), then just do that again and keep it at stock version.
Hope this helps!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Once again, thanks.:good:
I'm still not allowed to post any URLs, but I found a video on youtube of a guy with exactly the same problem.
Just search "Jon417silka nexus" and you'll see it.
I'm dowloading this NexusRootToolkit you recommended, it's +200MB so it'll take a while.
I have no skills on flashing or rooting any device, but I have read the instructions and doesn't seem to be too complicated.
I'll be awake all night trying to solve it if it's necessary.
I'll let you know how it went in a few hours.
Well... I finally downloaded the nexus root toolkit.
It was kinda easy actually, just had some hard time trying to enable the USB debugging mode, since... well i can't see anything on the screen.
I was able to download the drivers, and run the stock rom but, unfortunately, no luck on the screen.
Im just seeing green lines which i assume is the green android logo on the center on the first boot or something.
by the way, google answered me today saying somthing like, they cant do anything since im outside the us, so i have to contact asus.
It's too bad flashing the stock rom didn't fix it, I'd say it seems to be a hardware problem.
Even if you were in USA, google will only help you if you bought it within 14 days from Google Play Store.
You should call Asus Argentina [ http://latin.asus.com/Static_WebPage/Service_center_argentina/ ] and explain what is wrong, and give them the serial number. The number is located somewhere on the box, and on a removable sticker on the bottom back of the Nexus [As well as in the Settings, but you cannot read the screen so that is useless]. If you can't find the serial number, you might be able to get it via adb, but I'm not sure.
Asus has a 1 year warranty on tablets, but I'm not completely positive what they will say since it was bought in USA, and you are now in Argentina. But hopefully they will be able to RMA it and repair/replace your device. gl!
Yeah, it has to be hardware. I think you should follow Sikagoon7's advice and return it because it is under law. It couldn't be your or your wife's fault, because as you described, there were no scratches or anything. I guess it just might be a bad device. Replace it because the Nexus 7 is so worth it.
Probly gpu chipset. Its getting distorting at high frequency. Since first logo is a small frequency image and some times provided for BIOS its show normal. (Thats my guess)
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
I was giving up all my hopes on this, plugged the nexus to the computer and clicked the OEM lock to return to its original factory state.
You know... I don't want them to say my warranty it's void for messing with it.
Of course, I didn't noticed any changes, swiped my finger a couple times and then...
WHAT THE....
The lines vanished and screen started to function properly, a few lines were noticeable for a few moments, now the screen is fine.
Now things got even weirder...
My wife it's been using it for two hours, with Monsters Ate My Condo (which may be pushing the cpu a little bit) and it's working flawlessly.
Problem is... I'm pretty sure that if the screen turns off it will die again.
Is there a way to keep the nexus always on, never go to sleep, just dim the screen to minium brightness or something...
Any other solution you guys think i can try is also welcome.
Please understand that returning this to Asus will be my last resort (if they decide to accept it, which I'm not sure).
Once again, thanks for everyone's time and replies
If you can not turn off your screen without it breaking it I would RMA it back to Asus.
Travisdroidx2 said:
If you can not turn off your screen without it breaking it I would RMA it back to Asus.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well... It worked properly for two hours, now it died again.
I wanted RMA to be my last resort, but I'm running out of options here...
Did you already start the RMA process?
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
maztahbr said:
Did you already start the RMA process?
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I haven't.
I don't even know where to start...
The fact that I live in Argentina may be a complication.
Since Asus is does not sell the Nexus here, they probably won't help me at all.
And the distance may be a problem since shipping to USA is quite expensive.
I contacted Asus via their global website, still waiting for an answer.
This option kind of sucks but maybe you should sell it cheaper to someone on xda have them use the warranty exchange and you could buy another one also possibly from xda. Like i said it sucks but it may be your best option at this point.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
---------- Post added at 06:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:28 PM ----------
Also make sure to link back to this thread if you decide to take that route.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
I'm gonna bump this old thread I started about a year ago, to share with you guys the rest of the story.
I contacted north american ASUS RMA by email since Google is not taking any responsibility for their tablet.
And latin american ASUS won't take my warranty as valid.
I tried to explain my complicated situation to the RMA guy. It was a little hard to understand since my english is not flawless.
But I had a friend flying to united states, he carried my broken nexus with him and sent it to repair as soon as he arrived.
Tricky part was: he was only staying for 10 days. So ASUS had ten days to receive, repair, and send the Nexus back to my friend so he could bring it to Argentina.
I crossed my fingers and decided to wait, fortunately they did a good job and now it's working back again.
However I noticed the battery doesn't lasts for as long as I expected...
Anyway thanks to everyone for sharing ideas and for your time.
Please see attachment, it is a screenshot similar to the problem I have.
A part of the screen is not touch-respondsive. It only happened recently, never had this problem before.
Possible to fix? I have trouble unlocking the 9 dots pattern everytime I turn on the phone because of this problem.
Please help, thanks.
Never mind, flashed a different kernal and its working now.
edit: Wait, no it's still there.
update: I wiped everything and installed factory 4.2.2 patch (occam-jdq39-factory-345dc199.tgz) but still cannot fix this problem. Please help!
update: Tried this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027476 still not working :crying:
update: This also not working for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163924... possible hardware issue?
verdict: I will live with this for now, after 1 day and still can't fix it then I will contact google hopefully for a replacement.
bump
I am having the exact same issue. That almost makes me think it could be a software issue but you said you already did a factory reset.
The weird thing is that it looks like the same part of the screen. Its a horizontal section in the very middle.
My best conclusions are that its the digitizer. It just started happening out of no where though. Very frustrating. Makes it impossible to hit the send button on the stock messaging app without minimizing the keyboard! I take excellent care of my Nexus 4. It has a case and it hasn't been dropped. It hardly has a scratch on it! Its a month old.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Strongertyer I can feel your frustration.
Here's mine (the one in my op was found from google). Mine is a bit lower, it blocks the top half of the qwer line on the keyboard and the yes/no buttons on prompt windows.
I can still type qwer just fine by pressing the bottom half of the keys, but for the the prompts I have to tilt and rotate the screen every time so the buttons aren't under the "dead zone".
Strongtyer are you also thinking of sending the phone back to Google?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Just talked to support and they seemed helpful. However, his first suggestion was to do a factory reset of course. He said if that didn't work then I could send my phone back for a replacement. Did a factory reset and still the same issue. Looks like I'll be calling again tomorrow.
I guess the plus side is that they send brand new phones and not just refurbished ones.
Any luck on your end?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
I gave up fixing it already as you can see in my 2nd post and I believe it is not possible to fix it other than having the whole screen replaced, so I asked directly for a replacement under warranty. Then after a brief moment google emailed me a set of instructions for packing the phone.
So on Sunday evening I booked the courier, printed the documents, picked everything back in the box, warped and taped it. And today the courier came and collected my phone.
Now I have to use my good old HTC Legend again. However it uses regular SIM card, so I had a bit of fun making myself an adapter to up size the Nexus 4's micro-sim!
I talked to Google today and they are sending me a replacement. They told me I can keep the phone till the new one arrives. I just have to return it within 21 days.
Just crossing my fingers that they don't say the damage is my fault. I don't know how o could have caused it. I haven't does it and I take really good care of it.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Same problem
I do have a same touch screen problem.
Sliding vertically is not smooth and cannot clicking, but swiping horizontally is working.
im also having this problem but i dont live in the US. how can i go about fixing it?
redsuns said:
im also having this problem but i dont live in the US. how can i go about fixing it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should contact google anyway if you want a warranty replacement. Go to the link below, click contact google, answer a few check box questions and there should be a phone number.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2411741?hl=en&ref_topic=2803008
Because I believe that the only way to fix this is to have the screen replaced.
Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
herrieherrie said:
Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to xda-developers. Your English is fine.
You should contact Google.
Interesting that you mention the newer version of the phone -- I'd be interested in knowing if this is in fact a result of a newer manufacturing process, different materials, or maybe the place of manufacture (Korea or China). The place of manufacture can be identified by the letter in the fourth position of the serial number found on the box.
can someone update us on this issue? I have the same problem and i am so sad! I saved up 8 months to get this phone!
2nd
herrieherrie said:
Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yup just to chime in same problem here too .. its pretty widespread !
Same ISsue - Nexus 4
jeetash said:
yup just to chime in same problem here too .. its pretty widespread !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, its certainly a hardware issue.
Digitizer, for what I know.
But no easy solution.
Would have happened due to the faulty charger.
But google is not helping!
I have the same exact issue. Playing PVZ2 is now extra difficult because of this issue.
Is there any other fix other than an RMA (currently not in the US)? :crying:
Verbl Kint said:
I have the same exact issue. Playing PVZ2 is now extra difficult because of this issue.
Is there any other fix other than an RMA (currently not in the US)? :crying:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fixed with the update to KitKat!
Posted via Tapatalk
Verbl Kint said:
Fixed with the update to KitKat!
Posted via Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have this same screen issue. Mine is is first row from top which makes it very frustrating. I am on 4.4.2 and still have this issue.
Can you describe what you've tried in more detail?
I have the same problem but mine is like 2 inches from the bottom of the screen. I can use the softkeys in portrait but they are unusable in landscape. I have had the phone since Nov 12 so sadly my phone is now out of warranty. LG's approved repair centre want £95 for a new screen. I am thinking maybe buy a Nexus 5 and trade this in for £70. I could sell it for like £130 but I would feel bad selling a phone I know the screen is on its last legs.
Hi all, I need some help from you guys.
I read all about voiding warranty if I root my device but something happened to my nexus that I find too akward.
A couple weeks ago, I sent my Nexus to repair due to faulty gps.
It would not recieve any signal. I installed many different ROMs, wiped it, tryed factory image from Google themselves without any success. So I decided to send my Nexus to warranty. Before sending it in I installed the factory image once again and relocked the bootloader.
As I bought my device froma reseller (FNAC) I did not send it directly to ASUS. I went to FNAC instead.
The problem is that today I recieved a SMS from FNAC saying that the brand (ASUS) did not accept my device under warranty.
I am wondering what could possibly go wrong. I am a bit worried about all this as I am 100% sure I took all the precautions to unroot my device. I know it had a factory image from Google and the only thing I am not sure is if I relocked the bootloader.
Tomorrow I will go to FNAC to know what they have to say.
My question is, can they refuse to repair my device only because the bootloader is unlocked? I was not bricked, only the gps did not work.
Sorry for the big text, thanks in advance
Yep they can completely refuse to repair it if the bootloader is unlocked.
To begin with, you need to find out what reason Asus gave.
Any number of things are possible - for all you know, your device got dropped/damaged after it left your hands, but before it arrived at Asus. Or any of a number of other reasons.
But it would be interesting for you to follow up your OP with an account of your experience.
Try installing this
If it's not hard-bricked then try going through Clockwork Recovery (For 4.2.2)
Then download Google Apps from this webpage goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip
Then the GPS will work and other Google Apps just fine, and if you want you can start fresh from stock then root it again then put in the ROM (CyanogenMod 10.1 RC2 is the best one) or which ever one you want to use then install Google Apps (gapps) through Clockwork by choosing 'Add Zip' then adding the zip in the downloads folder or your nexus 7. There is though a RC3 and RC4 but I prefer RC2 get.cm/?device=grouper&type=RC
Tomorrow I'll post more info of whats going on.
Thanks for replies.
YoyoscratchMC did not understand your post..
In the guarantee card is a point where it says that unlocked devices have no longer guarantee.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Ok guys so it had nothing to do with software.
I did setup my tablet nicely so ASUS could not complain about unlocking anything.
So the reason they refused to repair my tablet under warranty is a small scratch that cant even be called dent. It has about 1mm diameter and is more a lack of paint than a dent. The small scratch is right next to two connector (see images below) and ASUS repair team said that one connector was not there. They classified it as my fault for damaging the device.
I cannot believe that a small scratch can cause that damage. My opinion is that the connector was badly installed or was not even there at the beggining since I never tested the gps when I bought the device.
Plus the repair cost would be more than 200€, almost the price of a new Nexus. They want to replace the motherboard!
I will post the pictures that ASUS took from my device as soon as I can.
Btw, any1 knows what those connectors do?
Thanks
naoentrar said:
Btw, any1 knows what those connectors do?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those are the GPS antenna pins.
I sent my nexus 7 in because I erased the boot loader (I'm a dumb***) and they upgraded me from an 8gb to 16gb and my nexus was all banged and beat up odd they wouldn't fix yours
Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.72 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
I could not believe when they told me that they refused to repair due to a small scratch... Anyway I refused to pay for the repair budget and made a complaint to oficial authorities. I will be able to use my nexus as is while they process the complaint.
Oh and they want to replace the whole board just because it is missing 1 pin from the gps connector. Is that normal?
Thankyou all.
just sent mine with screen flicker on white/minor screen lift.. flashed stock and relocked so hope they honor my warranty...
new ones screen including touch is much better... also nice to get a fresh battery
Sent from my Nexus 7
nolook said:
just sent mine with screen flicker on white/minor screen lift.. flashed stock and relocked so hope they honor my warranty...
new ones screen including touch is much better... also nice to get a fresh battery
Sent from my Nexus 7
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hope they dont screw you like they did to me mate. GL
naoentrar said:
Hope they dont screw you like they did to me mate. GL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ya hopefully mine was bought from google play so maybe the warranty is different from the non google play ones...
Doubt it mate. It always comes down to repair companies that ASUS hires.
In my country there are many complaints with the repair service of ASUS. The company that repairs the products here for ASUS is awful. Maybe in your country it's better.
So I was having the multitouch issues.. putting two or more fingers closely together caused major freakouts, and some swipes would just count as taps, as well as phantom taps happening. I RMA'd. got it back, only to find out all they did was a factory reset, which I had already done. Obviously this did nothing to fix the problem. I was very angry. I went to Asus support and did a chat with a support guy ( trying to remember this is not his fault ) and politely stated that the RMA had done nothing. I set up a new one, explaining that it is a hardware issue and that I wanted the screen/digitizer to be replaced. I'm sending it tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know how that goes. Has anyone else RMA'd for this and gotten it back in perfect working condition?
WackyClash said:
So I was having the multitouch issues.. putting two or more fingers closely together caused major freakouts, and some swipes would just count as taps, as well as phantom taps happening. I RMA'd. got it back, only to find out all they did was a factory reset, which I had already done. Obviously this did nothing to fix the problem. I was very angry. I went to Asus support and did a chat with a support guy ( trying to remember this is not his fault ) and politely stated that the RMA had done nothing. I set up a new one, explaining that it is a hardware issue and that I wanted the screen/digitizer to be replaced. I'm sending it tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know how that goes. Has anyone else RMA'd for this and gotten it back in perfect working condition?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, me too, my N7 was returned to Amazon yesterday :crying:
unfortunately, I couldn't find any tablet like N7 spec and price.
sauofee said:
Yes, me too, my N7 was returned to Amazon yesterday :crying:
unfortunately, I couldn't find any tablet like N7 spec and price.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My device only exhibits some multitouch jumpiness when not grounded. I decided to wait for Asus and Google to sort it out internally and then I will send it for repair. Now from what I heard they only replace one faulty units with another. Mine seems to be one of those better ones even though it has serious problems with basic pinch to zoom gestures when ungrounded. I keep it for now because I do not want to risk replacement with a worse one.
One question to the those of you who got a replacement. When you got your replacement devices what was the manufacturing date? Did anyone get a device from September production batch? Was it any better?
I just mailed mine in for repair yesterday. I was hoping this would resolve my screen issues but I'm getting the impression that I will be very lucky if it does.
Plan B will be to buy another one and return the first one with that receipt. Rinse repeat until I get one that works.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
gadzooks64 said:
I just mailed mine in for repair yesterday. I was hoping this would resolve my screen issues but I'm getting the impression that I will be very lucky if it does.
Plan B will be to buy another one and return the first one with that receipt. Rinse repeat until I get one that works.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So annoying that's what you have to do just to get one that works. Asus..... I don't know why they didn't just go samsung or htc, as badly as asus fudged up QC on the 2012 N7
I just mailed mine in for repair today, I don't know if I did right. Mine is also from the best ones between the bad ones and I don´t want to get one in worst conditions. I know a guy who send it to asus and got it back with the screen, front and gps changed, they did not even talk about the gps or gps problems at all, so we thought it was solved because they knew what to change. When he got it back at first it was perfect, he use to had a realy faulty unit, but the next day he came saying that it was failing again, much less than before but not perfect at all. He keeps talking with the people on asus and they told him to send it back, that may be an app... ???? I guess they don't have any idea on what the problem is.
bokoy said:
He keeps talking with the people on asus and they told him to send it back, that may be an app... ???? I guess they don't have any idea on what the problem is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, the app is called JSS15* OTA update.
sfhub said:
Yeah, the app is called JSS15* OTA update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a problem with that solution, I have the grounding issue, how could just a software problem do that? Mine works nearly perfect in my hands but if you put it over a sofa... Could be a software problem with some apps but not all.
The 15x updates contained firmware (which effects the hardware) as well as software.
Sfhub's firmware patches have been 80-90% successful in minimizing or eliminating the touch problems for those who've tried them.
He knows what he's talking about.... :thumbup:
gadzooks64 said:
Plan B will be to buy another one and return the first one with that receipt. Rinse repeat until I get one that works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So in essence, commit fraud?
Apparently.
Sad that the sellers have to take it in the shorts because Google/ASUS are so clueless and unable to provide anything remotely resembling customer service.
They'll end up with a bunch of money tied up in defective stock that they'll have to sit on until they get credit.
Next time, how many Google/ASUS tablets do you think they'll be ordering?
goofball2k said:
So in essence, commit fraud?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you from the police? Is that fraud? So how would you call what asus/google are doing...
I think people that buy a device and return defective units to the place of purchase are heroes. Especially if they return 3-5 or more. They beta test the devices, and take out the bad ones for the rest of us.
Is it fraud to buy model ABC and return model ABC to the same store? The stores have a ASUS wonderful warranty program where they can return the devices for a full year for repair and resell them to unsuspecting customers. For example, I noticed Best Buy selling a Google device recently at full price that had an extra small sticker - Bug Fix A. Isn't that fraud? LOL
Seriously, it should be fraud to sell a consumer faulty devices and expect thousands of customers to deal individually with the known problems.
Even if you buy one in one shop, then buy another in another, or the same shop, and return the first one as the second, that is what the user said. If that's the way to get a good one working... but be careful with bar codes, they will know you are not returning the same item.
There's no damage for any shop as Bob said, they just return the unit and gets new one. The biggest problem is for the user, Google is just lucky for not having more returns.
They are are all screwed up I think. Some more then others. It can be fixed with Sfhub's patches for the most part. Mine still gets strange when I play extended periods of Terraria but it is only for a second or two. I don't even think it is the device at this point but rather the game itself.
Best thing to do is go into Dev options and turn on show touchscreen inputs. Before it would skitz out and I could see like 5 touch inputs randomly on the screen. Now after Sfhubs fix, I don't see any, even when the game gets wonky.
This is why everyone knows it can be corrected via a proper patch from Google. Whether they adjust the sensitivity to touch or grounding or whatever. If Sfhub can do it, Google can. Plus it is a tiny download, his directions are precise, you don't have to be unlocked or rooted to do. There is absolutely no harm to just patch it yourself until Google makes with a fix.
Touchscreen Patch Fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428133
player911 said:
They are are all screwed up I think. Some more then others. It can be fixed with Sfhub's patches for the most part. Mine still gets strange when I play extended periods of Terraria but it is only for a second or two. I don't even think it is the device at this point but rather the game itself.
Best thing to do is go into Dev options and turn on show touchscreen inputs. Before it would skitz out and I could see like 5 touch inputs randomly on the screen. Now after Sfhubs fix, I don't see any, even when the game gets wonky.
This is why everyone knows it can be corrected via a proper patch from Google. Whether they adjust the sensitivity to touch or grounding or whatever. If Sfhub can do it, Google can. Plus it is a tiny download, his directions are precise, you don't have to be unlocked or rooted to do. There is absolutely no harm to just patch it yourself until Google makes with a fix.
Touchscreen Patch Fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428133
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correction - "Your bootloader must be UNLOCKED to use these packages. Unlocking your bootloader is covered in the stickies"
That is extracted from his post.
So no one's had a positive experience RMAing the nexus? Do the majority of units have the multitouch problem?
Sfhub's fix helped but I still get the "grounding issue" where the touchscreen goes insane if I place the nexus on certain materials. It sometimes exhibits the same problem when connected to the charger.
Other than that, the tablet works great when I hold it in my hand, no other issue to report... so I'm worried about RMAing my N7 and getting back one that not only has the same multitouch issue but now also randomly reboots or has dead pixels or dust or whatever. My warranty applies to north america only because I bought it off ebay and I don't live in the US so shipping it off to get replaced will get costly if I can't guarantee I get a working replacement back. Can I be sure that like, the newest batch of nexus 7 has been fixed and the replacement will be of that batch?
Since they're not sure what the problem is (one Google groups poster states that ASUS has had his for a month with no ETA on a fix, or when he'll get it back) I'm not sure how they can fix anything , or be certain that what they've been shipping is 'good'.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
Come and join in the fun.... :/
Looks like loads of fun. Seems I should be grateful I was lucky enough that my touch-based tablet only has a malfunctioning touch screen.
danvee said:
Since they're not sure what the problem is (one Google groups poster states that ASUS has had his for a month with no ETA on a fix, or when he'll get it back) I'm not sure how they can fix anything , or be certain that what they've been shipping is 'good'.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
Come and join in the fun.... :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude, that forum is almost like spam. I reported my issues early, 3 weeks ago or more.
Since then I get from 10+ to 20+ reports (of multiple posts) per day of people reporting issues in email. People might be worrying about me when I get two or three reports in one meeting and I'm chuckling at the comments. LOL
Seriously, it is a good idea to report your issues at that location. But, think twice about subscribing to the topic.
To whomsoever it may concern. Yes that's what my state of mind is right now.
I will begin from the beginning then.
So heard on 4th October 2016 that google is launching it's Pixel phones. Couldn't have been more excited with the news as I am a big android fan boy. I had been using the Nexus 6p then, so the news of the Pixel phones was really pleasing to me.
I wait for the Pixels to get launched in India. 26th October 2016 is the date. I pre-order my Pixel XL very silver 128 GB before hand and receive the handset on 26th! Very happy!!
I haven't ever used a better phone than the Pixel XL. The smoothest android experience. Period.
So a month passes by. The phone does overheat from time to time but other than that it worked fine. My "rock solid" Pixel XL gets about 40 GB full. One fine day, while I was trying to open a PDF from my drive, the device freezes and reboots. Nothing to worry, sometime android does that, I think to myself. Same day, Gmail freezes and the phone reboots. Then the Camera freezes and it reboots. Now I started to see a pattern. Tried uninstalling apps one by one, to pin point the root cause. Found nothing. Tried Safe Mode. Still it would freeze and reboot. Finally, made my peace with a factory reset. The phone started behaving. I told myself that I must be some rogue app.
This cycle continues again when the phone reaches that 40 GB mark. It would freeze and reboot. Factory reset once again. It works fine.
So I start suspecting the phone internal memory. I fill up the around 80 GB with random videos and music. The restarts start happening like clockwork.
Come 6th December 2016, and I receive the 7.1.1 update. Everything goes smooth. The phone acts normal, for sometime at least. I call up Google Support on the 8th and the guy tells me to take my phone to the service center.
Moments after, I see my phone restarting. It boots up and it's sitting on my table. In about five minutes, while lying idle on the table, it reboots. And this time, it reboots to boot-loader. I try to start the phone with the power key and the volume keys by choosing the right option. It boots back to boot-loader. Doesn't load up android. So somehow my phone was soft bricked just sitting idle on the table.
I am not new to the fastboot mode and decide to flash the stock rom. However, there is this issue that i suddenly see. The fastboot screen on my phone says Baseband : N/A and my bootloader is locked! The only option I see to get android up and running is using stock recovery and sideloading the Stock ROM, which should have worked as Google Stock ROMS are signed and might have not need unlocked bootloader(I did my research). I select recovery, and surprise surprise! The phone says recovery can't be loaded, press any key to go back!!
So now my phone has no OS, no baseband, no recovery with a locked bootloader! And i don't know how it happened!
I take the phone to the service center today around 11 am. They can't make sense of what happened. They say they would keep the phone for sometime. I get a call from them around 4, which was like half an hour back. The guy tells me there is a power button issue and another hardware issue(which he doesn't specify) and tells me they will keep the phone for 2 days. And repair it!
WHAT!?! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU REPAIRING MY PHONE GOOGLE!?! It's a new phone, not even 2 months old! And it doesn't come cheap! For the price amount I would expect it to work flawlessly!! I ask the service guy for replacement unit, and he says it is more than 14 days old, and gives me all terms and conditions! The problems that I had with this phone couldn't have been foreseen!! Till the time the internal storage gets to about 30 percent full the restarting issue did not show itself.
I expect a replacement unit or a full refund. Because this is just not fair! Not really happy with you Google. Thanks!
P.S.: thanks for reading this.
TL;DR
Cliff notes?
I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
Or
If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
Mdizzle1 said:
So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
Or
If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
johnciaccio said:
He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree
Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
ithehappy said:
I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is a hardware problem only, the phone worked fine till the 40 GB or so mark. And yeah, seem to feel unlucky about this now.
Also, I am not bashing HTC for this, they were pretty nice and they are doing their job. I understand that. Just not happy about the situation I am in that's all.
superchilpil said:
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish i would have damaged the device just so that I would have something to blame this on.
And as for the car issue, you would want a new car, won't you? They will indeed repair it, however, a customer asking for a new car which works doesn't sound dumb to me.
johnciaccio said:
Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thought as much. Thanks for reading the long post!!:good:
sanke1 said:
Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem is when they eventually return the phone, it would be hard for me to understand if the problem persists until I get a PC in front of me and fill up the device. And the problem is pretty random too. Thanks for the reply though.
No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
dc/dc said:
TL;DR
Cliff notes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got a faulty Pixel XL, issue with the logic board(based on what i have read on this discussion so far), not really happy with HTC opening my new phone and repairing it. I paid for a new phone and I want a new phone which works! I know I am whining a bit.
johnciaccio said:
No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You read my mind!! Totally agree!!:good:
At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
johnciaccio said:
At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It surely is not a good policy to have. And with the pixel devices the resellers were a part of the launch process. It was not like we had to wait for a few days after it was available online. It was almost the same time. I hope i get my device as soon as possible in working condition, because as I mentioned earlier, I love the phone. Also I have been using a prehistoric Nokia 1100 which I found in some corner of my house as I don't have any other back up device currently.
I'm just impressed that Google had a service center in Bangalore.
Yeah sucks. Let us know how it goes.