Hello there. I went to Los Angeles last month and after a little research on tablet pcs, I decided to buy a nexus for my wife. Since I had no time to order it online, decided to visit a retail store at Santa Monica called Macmall.
I was bringing this as a gift, so I bought it and opened it right away just to make sure it was working properly.
So, I went back to argentina, wife happy with her nexus, until yesterday.
She came crying saying that the nexus was broken.
The screen is showing nothing but vertical lines. The touchscreen is responding to finger swipes and sound works, but of course all of that is useless since screen is defective.
She swears she didn't hit, drop or wet the tablet pc, I did check it many times and it has absolutely no signs of mistreatment.
I turned it off, soft reset pressing power for ten seconds, removed the cover and the battery, and once, I was able to see the Google logo properly but quickly vanished into lines again.
So... What options do you think I have?
Nexus is not being sold on my country and Google is giving me no support at all.
I contacted Asus through their website, still waiting for an answer but I'm not sure if they will help since I'm far away from USA.
I'll appreciate any help, or piece of advice you can give me.
You might be in luck. I had a problem with the speaker once, thinking it was the hardware, and I thought I would have to return it. I think for fixing your screen problem, you should reflash the stock Rom. If you are unfamiliar with what I am trying to say, it is basically like reinstalling the stock Operating System (Android). Find out how to reflash the stock Rom. Since you could see the Google logo properly, i'm pretty sure it isn't hardware. Might just be a corrupted stock Rom. Here is a guide that should work: Click Here. It will wipe all of your data/storage so it will be like your Nexus 7 came out of the box.
Best of luck recovering it!
Edit: What is also very weird is it seems like it happened suddenly. Not out of the box, but randomly.
Ryan35310 said:
You might be in luck. I had a problem with the speaker once, thinking it was the hardware, and I thought I would have to return it. I think for fixing your screen problem, you should reflash the stock Rom. If you are unfamiliar with what I am trying to say, it is basically like reinstalling the stock Operating System (Android). Find out how to reflash the stock Rom. Since you could see the Google logo properly, i'm pretty sure it isn't hardware. Might just be a corrupted stock Rom. Here is a guide that should
Edit: What is also very weird is it seems like it happened suddenly. Not out of the box, but randomly.
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Thanks for the answer. I may have not expressed myself correctly.
I'm not seeing anything on the screen but those annoying vertical lines.
After removing the battery a few times, once showed me the Google logo, just a one second flash, and then the lines again.
The only person I saw with this very same problem, had it as you said, straight from the box.
I asked my wife and she updated the nexus a few days ago and barely used it, so even if it sounds weird it could be a software issue.
Question is, will I be able to reinstall the stock OS just guessing where to push, I mean, with only those lines on the screen. I'm like... Blindfolded
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Thanks for the answer. I may have not expressed myself correctly.
I'm not seeing anything on the screen but those annoying vertical lines.
After removing the battery a few times, once showed me the Google logo, just a one second flash, and then the lines again.
The only person I saw with this very same problem, had it as you said, straight from the box.
I asked my wife and she updated the nexus a few days ago and barely used it, so even if it sounds weird it could be a software issue.
Question is, will I be able to reinstall the stock OS just guessing where to push, I mean, with only those lines on the screen. I'm like... Blindfolded
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Oh now I see. First, anyway, do not manually remove your battery. That might affect something. To force shutdown hold down the volume down and power button for about 10-20 seconds until it turns off. Now, with the vertical lines, now i'm pretty sure since you clarified, it is the software. I think I know a fix for reflashing the stock Rom. Use this toolkit: Here. Click the option "Flash stock and unroot". Try that and it will Flash stock. Try software updating once it works and you could boot up without the problem. If it still has the problem if you software update (Unlikely), then just do that again and keep it at stock version.
Hope this helps!
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Oh now I see. First, anyway, do not manually remove your battery. That might affect something. To force shutdown hold down the volume down and power button for about 10-20 seconds until it turns off. Now, with the vertical lines, now i'm pretty sure since you clarified, it is the software. I think I know a fix for reflashing the stock Rom. Use this toolkit:Here. Click the option "Flash stock and unroot". Try that and it will Flash stock. Try software updating once it works and you could boot up without the problem. If it still has the problem if you software update (Unlikely), then just do that again and keep it at stock version.
Hope this helps!
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Once again, thanks.:good:
I'm still not allowed to post any URLs, but I found a video on youtube of a guy with exactly the same problem.
Just search "Jon417silka nexus" and you'll see it.
I'm dowloading this NexusRootToolkit you recommended, it's +200MB so it'll take a while.
I have no skills on flashing or rooting any device, but I have read the instructions and doesn't seem to be too complicated.
I'll be awake all night trying to solve it if it's necessary.
I'll let you know how it went in a few hours.
Well... I finally downloaded the nexus root toolkit.
It was kinda easy actually, just had some hard time trying to enable the USB debugging mode, since... well i can't see anything on the screen.
I was able to download the drivers, and run the stock rom but, unfortunately, no luck on the screen.
Im just seeing green lines which i assume is the green android logo on the center on the first boot or something.
by the way, google answered me today saying somthing like, they cant do anything since im outside the us, so i have to contact asus.
It's too bad flashing the stock rom didn't fix it, I'd say it seems to be a hardware problem.
Even if you were in USA, google will only help you if you bought it within 14 days from Google Play Store.
You should call Asus Argentina [ http://latin.asus.com/Static_WebPage/Service_center_argentina/ ] and explain what is wrong, and give them the serial number. The number is located somewhere on the box, and on a removable sticker on the bottom back of the Nexus [As well as in the Settings, but you cannot read the screen so that is useless]. If you can't find the serial number, you might be able to get it via adb, but I'm not sure.
Asus has a 1 year warranty on tablets, but I'm not completely positive what they will say since it was bought in USA, and you are now in Argentina. But hopefully they will be able to RMA it and repair/replace your device. gl!
Yeah, it has to be hardware. I think you should follow Sikagoon7's advice and return it because it is under law. It couldn't be your or your wife's fault, because as you described, there were no scratches or anything. I guess it just might be a bad device. Replace it because the Nexus 7 is so worth it.
Probly gpu chipset. Its getting distorting at high frequency. Since first logo is a small frequency image and some times provided for BIOS its show normal. (Thats my guess)
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I was giving up all my hopes on this, plugged the nexus to the computer and clicked the OEM lock to return to its original factory state.
You know... I don't want them to say my warranty it's void for messing with it.
Of course, I didn't noticed any changes, swiped my finger a couple times and then...
WHAT THE....
The lines vanished and screen started to function properly, a few lines were noticeable for a few moments, now the screen is fine.
Now things got even weirder...
My wife it's been using it for two hours, with Monsters Ate My Condo (which may be pushing the cpu a little bit) and it's working flawlessly.
Problem is... I'm pretty sure that if the screen turns off it will die again.
Is there a way to keep the nexus always on, never go to sleep, just dim the screen to minium brightness or something...
Any other solution you guys think i can try is also welcome.
Please understand that returning this to Asus will be my last resort (if they decide to accept it, which I'm not sure).
Once again, thanks for everyone's time and replies
If you can not turn off your screen without it breaking it I would RMA it back to Asus.
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If you can not turn off your screen without it breaking it I would RMA it back to Asus.
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Well... It worked properly for two hours, now it died again.
I wanted RMA to be my last resort, but I'm running out of options here...
Did you already start the RMA process?
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Did you already start the RMA process?
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No, I haven't.
I don't even know where to start...
The fact that I live in Argentina may be a complication.
Since Asus is does not sell the Nexus here, they probably won't help me at all.
And the distance may be a problem since shipping to USA is quite expensive.
I contacted Asus via their global website, still waiting for an answer.
This option kind of sucks but maybe you should sell it cheaper to someone on xda have them use the warranty exchange and you could buy another one also possibly from xda. Like i said it sucks but it may be your best option at this point.
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Also make sure to link back to this thread if you decide to take that route.
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I'm gonna bump this old thread I started about a year ago, to share with you guys the rest of the story.
I contacted north american ASUS RMA by email since Google is not taking any responsibility for their tablet.
And latin american ASUS won't take my warranty as valid.
I tried to explain my complicated situation to the RMA guy. It was a little hard to understand since my english is not flawless.
But I had a friend flying to united states, he carried my broken nexus with him and sent it to repair as soon as he arrived.
Tricky part was: he was only staying for 10 days. So ASUS had ten days to receive, repair, and send the Nexus back to my friend so he could bring it to Argentina.
I crossed my fingers and decided to wait, fortunately they did a good job and now it's working back again.
However I noticed the battery doesn't lasts for as long as I expected...
Anyway thanks to everyone for sharing ideas and for your time.
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Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?
awww sorry to hear that , i am sure its covered in warranty
I don't understand the warranty thing, if the phone is dead and not due to you installing a Rom or kernel or modding it then can't really see any reason to refuse fixing or replacing it.
If however it was because of the reason that you did install things then I can see how the warranty is void.
Hope you get it seen to
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In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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i don't know where you live but i'm pretty sure rooting is not illegal anywhere it just voids your warranty. removing the simlock is an entirely different story
Has happened to me too, 1 week after purchase (got stuck on the Samsung Galaxy SIII on boot). Got mine replaced right there and then but i'm left wondering about the quality of the phone. I get it that there are always problems with every product but i see so many people reporting the same lately i start thinking it may be chronic. Some component failing or some batch where something went wrong..
Sorry to hear that, they are an absolute pain in the ass with warranty in my country. They didn't even want to replace mine because the dude was claiming the back of my phone was slightly scratched (i wasn't, even) and they are quite anal about modded phones but, wish you the best of lucks!
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In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?
exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!
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Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?
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It is for the US, YMMV. Droid Life Article/
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exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!
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Thanks!
This is actually what I´m thinking... that the motherboard died... I just hope that tomorrow or on wednesday, I will at least get informed what is wrong with it... Don´t even dare to think how long it will take to have it again... And yes... I depend on it too!!! Maybe even too much!!! LOL
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Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?
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Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS
Mine completely died just about 2 weeks ago, stock rom but rooted. Dropped it off at a service centre and got it back today with a shiny new motherboard (and JB)... As long as it's properly dead, they can't tell what's on it as the only way to revive it is to change the innards.
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Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS
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Dude, I´m not a noob, what happened has nothing to do with software.
I entirely accept that this is a generalism and as such is bound to attract a hoard of punters contradicting it, but in many years on these boards I can recall few if any instances where repairs have been refused due to the installation of non-standard ROMs. It is sensible for manufacturers to discourage the practice - XDA-Developers is plagued with ill-informed noobs charging off to do things beyond their technical capabilities without doing adequate research - but I suspect a refusal to play the game would be counterproductive.
That said, I would always be inclined to revert back to a stock ROM and clean up a bit if I had the option before doing a return for repair.
its the same thing that happened to my phone running cm10 about 2 days ago.
sent my phone in for repairs to samsung. they probably won't be able to find out it was modified. probably needs to change hardware to even boot the phone up.
disappointing experience. :/
by any means, did you played with the clock levels?
oc/uc?
Jcossack88 said:
In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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It's not illegal. You won't go to prison or even get sued (Android is not Apple). It just void your warranty.
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just got back my phone.
They fixed it even though I rooted & had custom rom installed.
Guess they couldn't tell as the phone couldn't even start up. hahah.
Now restoring the latest nandroid I had.
Nice to here that pal, hope this will not happen to anyone in future... this is my 2nd GS 3 (first broken due to Barca loss vs Madrid in August) and never had hardware problems.
So... here I am again...
Got my phone back yesterday. And it was the motherboard so they replaced it.
Man was I happy to have my phone back! But... my hapiness didn't last long.
When I came home I had to discover that now the gyroscope is not working. No autorotate whatsoever, no games that require the accelerometer...
Means they just replaced the mother board, flashed the latest firmware but didn't bother to test the device.
So tomorrow I'm going back to the service center and I'm going to yell my soul out at whoever responsible...
Unbelievable!
(screen rotation is checked, I tried calibrating the gyro, pulling out the battery, etc...)
This is such a disappointing experience... I'll think twice before buying a Samsung phone again...
Please see attachment, it is a screenshot similar to the problem I have.
A part of the screen is not touch-respondsive. It only happened recently, never had this problem before.
Possible to fix? I have trouble unlocking the 9 dots pattern everytime I turn on the phone because of this problem.
Please help, thanks.
Never mind, flashed a different kernal and its working now.
edit: Wait, no it's still there.
update: I wiped everything and installed factory 4.2.2 patch (occam-jdq39-factory-345dc199.tgz) but still cannot fix this problem. Please help!
update: Tried this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027476 still not working :crying:
update: This also not working for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163924... possible hardware issue?
verdict: I will live with this for now, after 1 day and still can't fix it then I will contact google hopefully for a replacement.
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I am having the exact same issue. That almost makes me think it could be a software issue but you said you already did a factory reset.
The weird thing is that it looks like the same part of the screen. Its a horizontal section in the very middle.
My best conclusions are that its the digitizer. It just started happening out of no where though. Very frustrating. Makes it impossible to hit the send button on the stock messaging app without minimizing the keyboard! I take excellent care of my Nexus 4. It has a case and it hasn't been dropped. It hardly has a scratch on it! Its a month old.
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Strongertyer I can feel your frustration.
Here's mine (the one in my op was found from google). Mine is a bit lower, it blocks the top half of the qwer line on the keyboard and the yes/no buttons on prompt windows.
I can still type qwer just fine by pressing the bottom half of the keys, but for the the prompts I have to tilt and rotate the screen every time so the buttons aren't under the "dead zone".
Strongtyer are you also thinking of sending the phone back to Google?
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Just talked to support and they seemed helpful. However, his first suggestion was to do a factory reset of course. He said if that didn't work then I could send my phone back for a replacement. Did a factory reset and still the same issue. Looks like I'll be calling again tomorrow.
I guess the plus side is that they send brand new phones and not just refurbished ones.
Any luck on your end?
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I gave up fixing it already as you can see in my 2nd post and I believe it is not possible to fix it other than having the whole screen replaced, so I asked directly for a replacement under warranty. Then after a brief moment google emailed me a set of instructions for packing the phone.
So on Sunday evening I booked the courier, printed the documents, picked everything back in the box, warped and taped it. And today the courier came and collected my phone.
Now I have to use my good old HTC Legend again. However it uses regular SIM card, so I had a bit of fun making myself an adapter to up size the Nexus 4's micro-sim!
I talked to Google today and they are sending me a replacement. They told me I can keep the phone till the new one arrives. I just have to return it within 21 days.
Just crossing my fingers that they don't say the damage is my fault. I don't know how o could have caused it. I haven't does it and I take really good care of it.
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Same problem
I do have a same touch screen problem.
Sliding vertically is not smooth and cannot clicking, but swiping horizontally is working.
im also having this problem but i dont live in the US. how can i go about fixing it?
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im also having this problem but i dont live in the US. how can i go about fixing it?
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You should contact google anyway if you want a warranty replacement. Go to the link below, click contact google, answer a few check box questions and there should be a phone number.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2411741?hl=en&ref_topic=2803008
Because I believe that the only way to fix this is to have the screen replaced.
Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
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Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
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Welcome to xda-developers. Your English is fine.
You should contact Google.
Interesting that you mention the newer version of the phone -- I'd be interested in knowing if this is in fact a result of a newer manufacturing process, different materials, or maybe the place of manufacture (Korea or China). The place of manufacture can be identified by the letter in the fourth position of the serial number found on the box.
can someone update us on this issue? I have the same problem and i am so sad! I saved up 8 months to get this phone!
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herrieherrie said:
Have the same problem here. I have the phone for 1 month now.
I live in the Netherlands and the nexus 4 did not get official release here. Should I still contact Google?
Could it be this problem only happens with the newer phone's? I have the one with the little feet on the back. Version 605 I thought. What version do you guys have?
Also should I unroot and lock the boot loader when I send it in for repair ?even though the problem has nothing to do with it.
Sorry for the poor English...
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yup just to chime in same problem here too .. its pretty widespread !
Same ISsue - Nexus 4
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yup just to chime in same problem here too .. its pretty widespread !
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well, its certainly a hardware issue.
Digitizer, for what I know.
But no easy solution.
Would have happened due to the faulty charger.
But google is not helping!
I have the same exact issue. Playing PVZ2 is now extra difficult because of this issue.
Is there any other fix other than an RMA (currently not in the US)? :crying:
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I have the same exact issue. Playing PVZ2 is now extra difficult because of this issue.
Is there any other fix other than an RMA (currently not in the US)? :crying:
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Fixed with the update to KitKat!
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Fixed with the update to KitKat!
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I have this same screen issue. Mine is is first row from top which makes it very frustrating. I am on 4.4.2 and still have this issue.
Can you describe what you've tried in more detail?
I have the same problem but mine is like 2 inches from the bottom of the screen. I can use the softkeys in portrait but they are unusable in landscape. I have had the phone since Nov 12 so sadly my phone is now out of warranty. LG's approved repair centre want £95 for a new screen. I am thinking maybe buy a Nexus 5 and trade this in for £70. I could sell it for like £130 but I would feel bad selling a phone I know the screen is on its last legs.
To whomsoever it may concern. Yes that's what my state of mind is right now.
I will begin from the beginning then.
So heard on 4th October 2016 that google is launching it's Pixel phones. Couldn't have been more excited with the news as I am a big android fan boy. I had been using the Nexus 6p then, so the news of the Pixel phones was really pleasing to me.
I wait for the Pixels to get launched in India. 26th October 2016 is the date. I pre-order my Pixel XL very silver 128 GB before hand and receive the handset on 26th! Very happy!!
I haven't ever used a better phone than the Pixel XL. The smoothest android experience. Period.
So a month passes by. The phone does overheat from time to time but other than that it worked fine. My "rock solid" Pixel XL gets about 40 GB full. One fine day, while I was trying to open a PDF from my drive, the device freezes and reboots. Nothing to worry, sometime android does that, I think to myself. Same day, Gmail freezes and the phone reboots. Then the Camera freezes and it reboots. Now I started to see a pattern. Tried uninstalling apps one by one, to pin point the root cause. Found nothing. Tried Safe Mode. Still it would freeze and reboot. Finally, made my peace with a factory reset. The phone started behaving. I told myself that I must be some rogue app.
This cycle continues again when the phone reaches that 40 GB mark. It would freeze and reboot. Factory reset once again. It works fine.
So I start suspecting the phone internal memory. I fill up the around 80 GB with random videos and music. The restarts start happening like clockwork.
Come 6th December 2016, and I receive the 7.1.1 update. Everything goes smooth. The phone acts normal, for sometime at least. I call up Google Support on the 8th and the guy tells me to take my phone to the service center.
Moments after, I see my phone restarting. It boots up and it's sitting on my table. In about five minutes, while lying idle on the table, it reboots. And this time, it reboots to boot-loader. I try to start the phone with the power key and the volume keys by choosing the right option. It boots back to boot-loader. Doesn't load up android. So somehow my phone was soft bricked just sitting idle on the table.
I am not new to the fastboot mode and decide to flash the stock rom. However, there is this issue that i suddenly see. The fastboot screen on my phone says Baseband : N/A and my bootloader is locked! The only option I see to get android up and running is using stock recovery and sideloading the Stock ROM, which should have worked as Google Stock ROMS are signed and might have not need unlocked bootloader(I did my research). I select recovery, and surprise surprise! The phone says recovery can't be loaded, press any key to go back!!
So now my phone has no OS, no baseband, no recovery with a locked bootloader! And i don't know how it happened!
I take the phone to the service center today around 11 am. They can't make sense of what happened. They say they would keep the phone for sometime. I get a call from them around 4, which was like half an hour back. The guy tells me there is a power button issue and another hardware issue(which he doesn't specify) and tells me they will keep the phone for 2 days. And repair it!
WHAT!?! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU REPAIRING MY PHONE GOOGLE!?! It's a new phone, not even 2 months old! And it doesn't come cheap! For the price amount I would expect it to work flawlessly!! I ask the service guy for replacement unit, and he says it is more than 14 days old, and gives me all terms and conditions! The problems that I had with this phone couldn't have been foreseen!! Till the time the internal storage gets to about 30 percent full the restarting issue did not show itself.
I expect a replacement unit or a full refund. Because this is just not fair! Not really happy with you Google. Thanks!
P.S.: thanks for reading this.
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I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
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If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
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If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
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He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
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He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
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Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
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I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
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It is a hardware problem only, the phone worked fine till the 40 GB or so mark. And yeah, seem to feel unlucky about this now.
Also, I am not bashing HTC for this, they were pretty nice and they are doing their job. I understand that. Just not happy about the situation I am in that's all.
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Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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I wish i would have damaged the device just so that I would have something to blame this on.
And as for the car issue, you would want a new car, won't you? They will indeed repair it, however, a customer asking for a new car which works doesn't sound dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
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Thought as much. Thanks for reading the long post!!:good:
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Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
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The problem is when they eventually return the phone, it would be hard for me to understand if the problem persists until I get a PC in front of me and fill up the device. And the problem is pretty random too. Thanks for the reply though.
No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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Got a faulty Pixel XL, issue with the logic board(based on what i have read on this discussion so far), not really happy with HTC opening my new phone and repairing it. I paid for a new phone and I want a new phone which works! I know I am whining a bit.
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No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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You read my mind!! Totally agree!!:good:
At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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It surely is not a good policy to have. And with the pixel devices the resellers were a part of the launch process. It was not like we had to wait for a few days after it was available online. It was almost the same time. I hope i get my device as soon as possible in working condition, because as I mentioned earlier, I love the phone. Also I have been using a prehistoric Nokia 1100 which I found in some corner of my house as I don't have any other back up device currently.
I'm just impressed that Google had a service center in Bangalore.
Yeah sucks. Let us know how it goes.
Hey all! Firstly, thanks in advance for any help or guidance. I have had two 6p's, and i love them. I don't even want any other phone.. But there is this issue where the network will cut from LTE down to no service and you cannot fix it without restarting the phone. It starts off slow, maybe once a day.. then it starts happening more and more, till its unusable. Has anyone else experienced this? I have tried returning it to factory and everything. Google store replaced it once, but that was it, now they say they won't replace it again because it's outside the 3 month warranty :/\
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Just talked to Huawei tech support to try and get it replaced.. Long story short, they wont, but at the end of the call, the guy talked all quietly and told me "If you get another one of these, do not install the updates for it!" he then went on to telling me that it is only suppose to work in Europe right now and the phone is not capable of supporting it for the US. He didn't go into too much more detail other than that, but i found it kind of funny and odd...
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Hey all! Firstly, thanks in advance for any help or guidance. I have had two 6p's, and i love them. I don't even want any other phone.. But there is this issue where the network will cut from LTE down to no service and you cannot fix it without restarting the phone. It starts off slow, maybe once a day.. then it starts happening more and more, till its unusable. Has anyone else experienced this? I have tried returning it to factory and everything. Google store replaced it once, but that was it, now they say they won't replace it again because it's outside the 3 month warranty :/\
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Just talked to Huawei tech support to try and get it replaced.. Long story short, they wont, but at the end of the call, the guy talked all quietly and told me "If you get another one of these, do not install the updates for it!" he then went on to telling me that it is only suppose to work in Europe right now and the phone is not capable of supporting it for the US. He didn't go into too much more detail other than that, but i found it kind of funny and odd...
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i have had this problem too it was always fixed by reflashing the factory image just follow this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928 its guide 10 and 11, also the 6p does not have a 3 month warranty it has a 1 year warranty so you can tell google that also i think it has a 15 month warranty from huawei
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i have had this problem too it was always fixed by reflashing the factory image just follow this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928 its guide 10 and 11, also the 6p does not have a 3 month warranty it has a 1 year warranty so you can tell google that also i think it has a 15 month warranty from huawei
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the device was given to me as a replacement device. replacement devices are 90 days. Funny part is, huawei pulled up the warranty and the phone google sent me, had an expired manufactures warranty by the time i got it ha.
same exact issues? it would just show no service from LTE and wouldn't come back unless restarting eh? Ill try the guide you posted. thanks!
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the device was given to me as a replacement device. replacement devices are 90 days. Funny part is, huawei pulled up the warranty and the phone google sent me, had an expired manufactures warranty by the time i got it ha.
same exact issues? it would just show no service from LTE and wouldn't come back unless restarting eh? Ill try the guide you posted. thanks!
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yes same issue it would show a little x.
but the replacements should not void the rest of your warranty is that a new thing i rmaed my nexus 6 like 6 times over the whole life of the warranty they never reset my 1 year warranty or told me once you get this rma you only have 90 day thats junk i would just tell them your original warranty is still valid if you need rma but reflash will probably fix it
Just wanted to give a small update--I tried going back to factory using the latest factory images found in the link/thread above. That did not work for me, I still had the same issues. So, following the warning from the huawei rep, I tried factory images from the last 6.0.1 version... This worked for me. I ran it for a day with no issues until I thought I would try running an updated 7.1.2 custom ROM (SAOSP) with the latest bootloader but keep the old 6.0.1 radio.... This has been working for a solid day so far. I hope this has been the fix and I hope it helps someone else. I have noticed no decrease in network strength compared to before the issues started .
Last note: it might be in my head, but I have noticed a decrease in phone temperature (physically) , since using the old radio.
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Just wanted to give a small update--I tried going back to factory using the latest factory images found in the link/thread above. That did not work for me, I still had the same issues. So, following the warning from the huawei rep, I tried factory images from the last 6.0.1 version... This worked for me. I ran it for a day with no issues until I thought I would try running an updated 7.1.2 custom ROM (SAOSP) with the latest bootloader but keep the old 6.0.1 radio.... This has been working for a solid day so far. I hope this has been the fix and I hope it helps someone else. I have noticed no decrease in network strength compared to before the issues started .
Last note: it might be in my head, but I have noticed a decrease in phone temperature (physically) , since using the old radio.
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Just flashed back to the old radio not not because of losing signal but the cooler running you mentioned. Playing videos in chrome makes it go nuclear hot, been banging my head against the wall trying to figure out why hopefully this helps. Thanks
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Just flashed back to the old radio not not because of losing signal but the cooler running you mentioned. Playing videos in chrome makes it go nuclear hot, been banging my head against the wall trying to figure out why hopefully this helps. Thanks
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Have you noticed any differences ? Please tell me I'm not crazy lol
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Have you noticed any differences ? Please tell me I'm not crazy lol
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The little I've used it so far it seems to be cooler, will know for sure when I go to work tomorrow night and get bored. Will let you know for sure after that.
Sounds like you have Sprint
Hey guys, I was using my phone today as per usual but for some reason, the app I was using crashed and then the phone shut off. The phone then went into a boot loop and I thought it'd be an easy fix to just reformat the phone/factory reset, however, these solutions didn't work.
So I went to Factory Image for Nexus and installed 7.1.2 (N2G48B, Jul 2017) with the script and line by line but there is still no success. The phone just turns on, has the "Google" boot screen then turns back off. I am unable to get into recovery and nothing that I tried worked.
I tried looking around for a fix and there are some wacky solutions that people have used and had some success like using a heat gun on it and letting it die out but I feel like that's unsafe.
I also tried this but it also didn't work.
Can anyone help me with this issue?
(Also my 6P is out of warranty so I'm pretty much screwed)
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I contacted Google first, then Contacted Huawei about the same issue. Explained to Google what was wrong, then Huawei and Huawei told me to just contact a 3rd party repair shop to see if they can fix it. I looked at motherboard replacements for my 6P and it costs around $200-$300. I thought that was a bit insane, so I contacted Google again in hopes of them replacing my 6P despite it not being under warranty. I explained to them that I contacted Huawei about to issue, then looked all over the internet to find a solution to the problem and they understood that I was frustrated with this problem so they replaced my device! Took a lot of explaining but it all worked out.
tl;dr contacted google to RMA my device even though it is not under a warranty. Also, as far as I know there is no solution to this problem except replacing the motherboard.
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Hey guys, I was using my phone today as per usual but for some reason, the app I was using crashed and then the phone shut off. The phone then went into a boot loop and I thought it'd be an easy fix to just reformat the phone/factory reset, however, these solutions didn't work.
So I went to Factory Image for Nexus and installed 7.1.2 (N2G48B, Jul 2017) with the script and line by line but there is still no success. The phone just turns on, has the "Google" boot screen then turns back off. I am unable to get into recovery and nothing that I tried worked.
I tried looking around for a fix and there are some wacky solutions that people have used and had some success like using a heat gun on it and letting it die out but I feel like that's unsafe.
I also tried this but it also didn't work.
Can anyone help me with this issue?
(Also my 6P is out of warranty so I'm pretty much screwed)
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First, check a few things. Can you enter recovery mode? When flashing stock, did you flash all the images separately after extracting the stock zip and run the format user data command afterwards?. What do you see in device manager when plugging your phone in while in bootloader?
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First, check a few things. Can you enter recovery mode? When flashing stock, did you flash all the images separately after extracting the stock zip and run the format user data command afterwards?. What do you see in device manager when plugging your phone in while in bootloader?
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I cannot enter recovery mode. I called Huawei and they said "When you are in bootloader, go to Recovery mode option and then when you press the power button, hold the power button in and the Volume Up button to get into recovery." I tried these steps but it doesn't work.
I first used the script that was given in the folder to flash the stock image but it didn't work. So I did the steps manually and still had no luck. I do not know what you mean when you say "format user data" command. The instructions on the google website doesn't say to do this step. Also, I assumed that all the data is erased when I locked and unlocked the bootloader.
When I plug it into my computer, My device manager says this: https://puu.sh/wJBzI/f7fa02b291.png
i am literally having the same problem. Just a random bootloop in the middle of the day. cant get to recovery, did a full factory reset, even relocked, stuck in a google logo bootloop. followed step 10 in this thread
Same issue here. I can get into bootloader and recovery. Have tried flashing all sorts of different firmwares, sideloaded many OTA's.
in TWRP if I try to backup or restore it craps out a few percent in.
Andrewbud said:
Same issue here. I can get into bootloader and recovery. Have tried flashing all sorts of different firmwares, sideloaded many OTA's.
in TWRP if I try to backup or restore it craps out a few percent in.
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Have you tried formating partions?
Wow this seems like a common issue..I'm surprised that there isn't a fix for it already. I'll keep this post updated if I find a fix for the issue, but as for now, I'm waiting for my phone to die out and seeing if I can do anything from there.
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Wow this seems like a common issue..I'm surprised that there isn't a fix for it already. I'll keep this post updated if I find a fix for the issue, but as for now, I'm waiting for my phone to die out and seeing if I can do anything from there.
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BLOD is a hardware issue. No recovery mode= S.O.L. Time to move on.
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Some but not all.
If I wanted to format all possible partitions which would they be?
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Some but not all.
If I wanted to format all possible partitions which would they be?
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Not sure I just did data and cache. Don't believe mine was true BLOD but presented same symptoms.
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BLOD is a hardware issue. No recovery mode= S.O.L. Time to move on.
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I find it hard to belive it's ****ed beyond all repair...It's a pretty new phone and there still isnt any solution for it? That's insane.
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I find it hard to belive it's ****ed beyond all repair...It's a pretty new phone and there still isnt any solution for it? That's insane.
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Out of warranty? Well, sure you can buy a motherboard and swap it out for more than the phone is worth... or just buy another phone?
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Out of warranty? Well, sure you can buy a motherboard and swap it out for more than the phone is worth... or just buy another phone?
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It's out of warranty.
But why would a phone that was made in 2015 break in 2017. A 2 year life cycle? It's so infuriating that I spent $550 on a phone and now the only other option for me to use this phone after a year and a half is to either buy a new motherboard for the phone or get a new one.
Got an rma with Huawei Canada. Purchased from telus Dec 1 2015
I don't wanna sound like an ass but clearly folks are not reading and searching before posting. This BLOD issue has so many different threads it's now silly. Boot loop with no recovery equals dead. Period. If you have recovery available, them keep plugging away at the options people's have offered in countless threads. As a parting note, just scroll down passed this past for say the next 40 and count the number of posts about boot looping. It might surprise you... Sorry for the rant...
I have the BLOD as well. 16 month old phone bought from Best Buy, so Google and Huawei have both given me the middle finger. I'm so [email protected]#king pissed about it.
I've been able to do the hairdryer trick to get the phone up and running again, but I can't really do anything beyond texting. The moment I do anything proc-intensive that would cause it to flip to the big cluster I'm back to the BLOD and fishing out my wife's hairdryer again. It's lunacy.
I'm curious as to how big of a fraction of the N6Ps are affected by this. Like CyberpodS2 said, there are a bazillion threads about this now, so how many Nexuses have sh$t the bed at this point? Seems like a lot (although the internet is admittedly a very noisy place)...
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I have the BLOD as well. 16 month old phone bought from Best Buy, so Google and Huawei have both given me the middle finger. I'm so [email protected]#king pissed about it.
I've been able to do the hairdryer trick to get the phone up and running again, but I can't really do anything beyond texting. The moment I do anything proc-intensive that would cause it to flip to the big cluster I'm back to the BLOD and fishing out my wife's hairdryer again. It's lunacy.
I'm curious as to how big of a fraction of the N6Ps are affected by this. Like CyberpodS2 said, there are a bazillion threads about this now, so how many Nexuses have sh$t the bed at this point? Seems like a lot (although the internet is admittedly a very noisy place)...
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I saw all of the posts about the bootloop. I just couldn't find a solution to the problem so I posted again with a post thst had detailed things on what I did. It's insane how there is no fix for it though. It's even a common problem and Google/Huawei doesn't cover it unless its under warranty...
I was able to contact Google about the situation and they sent me a replacement. I'm considering selling the unit they sent me..
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I saw all of the posts about the bootloop. I just couldn't find a solution to the problem so I posted again with a post thst had detailed things on what I did. It's insane how there is no fix for it though. It's even a common problem and Google/Huawei doesn't cover it unless its under warranty...
I was able to contact Google about the situation and they sent me a replacement. I'm considering selling the unit they sent me..
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You should unload it on Craigslist/Ebay/whatever ASAP, in my opinion. Use the equity to buy a better, more stable phone... I love the Pixel but it costs a lot... at least it's not ****ing Huawei. Screw this goddamn phone.
I've picked up an LG G5 as a stopgap until I can figure out what my next move is. I'm just really annoyed because I had planned on keeping the 6P for at least 3 years; I'm not big on constantly upgrading.. I like to buy a high-end product that will last me a long time and that I won't have to worry about. I didn't even make halfway to that ownership goal.
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I have the BLOD as well. 16 month old phone bought from Best Buy, so Google and Huawei have both given me the middle finger. I'm so [email protected]#king pissed about it.
I've been able to do the hairdryer trick to get the phone up and running again, but I can't really do anything beyond texting. The moment I do anything proc-intensive that would cause it to flip to the big cluster I'm back to the BLOD and fishing out my wife's hairdryer again. It's lunacy.
I'm curious as to how big of a fraction of the N6Ps are affected by this. Like CyberpodS2 said, there are a bazillion threads about this now, so how many Nexuses have sh$t the bed at this point? Seems like a lot (although the internet is admittedly a very noisy place)...
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Oh the same thing happened here with my 64gig version. My warranty expired in April and Phone BLOD in June in the middle of the day while i was listening to music at office. Had to spend the rest of the day jumping through loops with either google and huawei. The end result was motherboard replacement and since i had no warranty they wanted to give 25k (390$) (New 32gb comes at around 22k). I tried all the options that were available here on XDA but nothing worked. I am so disappointed in huawei and google, I've seen cases in US where they replace the device even when warranty is expired but not here, the customer care services are sorely lacking at my place. Week after bought One Plus 5 which is loads better than 6P and you don't even need to root it as most of things that needed root comes per-loaded in their Settings and no bloatware whatsoever.
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You should unload it on Craigslist/Ebay/whatever ASAP, in my opinion. Use the equity to buy a better, more stable phone... I love the Pixel but it costs a lot... at least it's not ****ing Huawei. Screw this goddamn phone.
I've picked up an LG G5 as a stopgap until I can figure out what my next move is. I'm just really annoyed because I had planned on keeping the 6P for at least 3 years; I'm not big on constantly upgrading.. I like to buy a high-end product that will last me a long time and that I won't have to worry about. I didn't even make halfway to that ownership goal.
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Yeah, I'm probably gonna sell it and wait for the Galaxy Note 8 maybe. I'm going to stick with my 3 year old HTC one M8 in the meantime...Also, What do you think the asking price is for the Nexus 6P 64GB model is?