Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.
Buy it, you'll love it. If not you can always return the device. I have the 32gb for over a month now and never had any problems with it. It runs great out of the box
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IMO all the problems are < 1% problems except
GPS - fixed
touchscreen issues - workaround for 70-80% of bad units
random reboots - still ongoing
You're missing out on a great device while you're waiting. There's nothing wrong with either my wifi or my lte N7. I bought the wifi n7 early enough to see what the GPS issue was, but that was completely fixed with a system update. I don't see the multi touch issue or the random reboots. I did have one reboot on one of my tablets, but that was immediately after I plugged in a micro USB reader, so it was pretty obviously the cause. I have a Samsung Note 8 also, and I can tell you both my N7s work far, far more reliably. neither of my N7s have the very annoying random freezes of my Note 8. Buy one, and if you find something wrong with it, return it. Simple enough.
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kisrita said:
You're missing out on a great device while you're waiting. There's nothing wrong with either my wifi or my lte N7. I bought the wifi n7 early enough to see what the GPS issue was, but that was completely fixed with a system update. I don't see the multi touch issue or the random reboots. I did have one reboot on one of my tablets, but that was immediately after I plugged in a micro USB reader, so it was pretty obviously the cause. I have a Samsung Note 8 also, and I can tell you both my N7s work far, far more reliably. neither of my N7s have the very annoying random freezes of my Note 8. Buy one, and if you find something wrong with it, return it. Simple enough.
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This. If these reported problems are common then I'm one of the lucky ones. Not a single problem with mine and it works beautifully. Easily the best buy of any comparable tablet.
I'm curious to see what ROMs and development support the Kindle HDX will have. Hopefully more developers will take full advantage of its better hardware and if so, that would be something I would consider for the same price.
sfhub said:
IMO all the problems are < 1% problems except
GPS - fixed
touchscreen issues - workaround for 70-80% of bad units
random reboots - still ongoing
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Should be noted that sfhub is totally to be credited for the 70-80% fixed units via his workaround. Google/ASUS is still floundering.
Kudos! :beer:
Should also note:
[*] Random screen freezes for 2-10 seconds.
You can always wait, but you will be missing out on a great tablet. :silly:
How can I answer Yes or No to an either /or question? :silly:
so should I return my one with touch/grounding issues for a new one or just wait for an update?!
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deewad said:
so should I return my one with touch/grounding issues for a new one or just wait for an update?!
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Return, and keep returning until you get a 'good' one...
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I'm curious to see what ROMs and development support the Kindle HDX will have. Hopefully more developers will take full advantage of its better hardware and if so, that would be something I would consider for the same price.
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Kernel source will probably be an issue so no hardware acceleration
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m+a+r+k said:
How can I answer Yes or No to an either /or question? :silly:
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Well, excellent point...I don't know why I didn't notice it until now...
Ah well, if anyone has any doubts, let's put Yes for buying it now and No for waiting.
Anyways, thanks everyone for your input, it's very much appreciated
Most people seem to have good experiences with this device, even though there's the casual hiccup (few reboots and the like). I suppose I could always return the device and wait some more month if there's any mayor issue with it.
Trebuchetino said:
Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.
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I voted yes before I saw you wanted a 16GB version. So, I change to no.
I first got a 16GB with many problems. Later got 32GB and with updates its working fine.
If you cannot return the 16GB it is a big risk (my opinion, obviously biased), but if return allowed you should be safe.
Bob Smith42 said:
I voted yes before I saw you wanted a 16GB version. So, I change to no.
I first got a 16GB with many problems. Later got 32GB and with updates its working fine.
If you cannot return the 16GB it is a big risk (my opinion, obviously biased), but if return allowed you should be safe.
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Interesting...Do other people have less or none issues with their 32GB device? Shouldn't it have the same issues, considering it's almost the same device?
Asus just used several different brands of LCD. The problem started with Google released a patch that fixed the few that had issues and now the majority have issues. Some were fixed and some were broken. Some are hardware related (with deadzones) but most are correctable. There are several patches available already from Sfhub in this forum. It takes a little trial and error to find a good one FOR YOU but it works.
Exchanging them until you find one that works doesn't mean it will work after you update a few Google updates. My 32gb was flawless out of the box until the 2nd update "touchscreen fix" that introduced the bug to most.
Fortunately it is found that it is correctable with a software fix and we're just waiting on Google to give us a good fix that encompasses all screen types.
If you want to pick one up, I'd suggest you should do so, especially if you are comfortable with flashing community fixes. I don't have any issues after the patch was flashed. Its also real easy to do.
So the N7 doesn't really have any big flaws hardware wise, which seems like it is just a buggy touchscreen driver or a combination of one driver not working the best across multiple screens. Google will fix it. I'm sure of it.
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Buy it now!
There seems to be a lot of focus on the touch screen issue for good reason. There is little focus on the RANDOM RESTART/REBOOT ISSUE.
I personally have had no touchscreen issues in my 2 units. I returned the first unit for multiple random restarts/reboots.
My second unit went through 3 on Wednesday in quick succession for some unknown reason but has been stable since then and previously stable for 150 hours (6 ish days). If you are curious, here is the google product forum with posts about random restarts/reboots. To date it is unacknowledged by Google and is extremely frustrating for me not knowing if the device will randomly choose to reboot.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-7/mG4JXaT-SHs%5B926-950-false%5D
The device is now 20 days old and I have 10 left in my "exchange" window with my supplier. Theytypically want to replicate issues prior to exchanging which is an interesting dilemma for a random event. My first device rebooted a lot during youtube videos and I was able to replicate that for them. This current unit has recently shut down prior to google app updates.This is not a reboot exactly as it sounds the shutdown tone and then requires a manual restart to find a google app (gmail once, maps once and dont remember the third) awaiting to be d/l'd or installed.
Don't forget the uncertainty of random reboots!!! Annoying, frustrating, not as functionally impacting as a touch screen that doesn't work but still a significant defect.
H/W; S/W; H/W Marginality (timing most likely or ram issues)??? who knows
Trebuchetino said:
Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.
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For me I'll wait until LG G Pad 8.3 release maybe next month, will beat N7, but the only downside with LG is UPDATES.
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Sometimes while watching the screen, every now and then I get a flicker, I only noticed it when I was staring at the screen reading a book, if so I am sad because my OTG cable just arrived and I was having so much fun
Your life is ruined.:thumbdown:
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well... at least it works and theres no other horrible problems so I can still play with it until google send me a new unit :silly:
Reckon I should wait a few months so I guarentee a unit from the new batch, or just do it now?
You know what. As I was reading your post I started to see tons of flickering. Thanks a lot. Lol jk. Better now than later. I'm still in my 15 day window
I'm stuck dealing with Asus.
I'm leaving the country for a 3 week vacay so I can't deal with a 4th exchange from Google Play.
davidcampbell said:
well... at least it works and theres no other horrible problems so I can still play with it until google send me a new unit :silly:
Reckon I should wait a few months so I guarentee a unit from the new batch, or just do it now?
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I think it's worth a shot. My replacement is perfect, much like many of the initial batch / recipients. Risk you take, right?, jumping on that first wave. Seems like things have settle down, think the negative outcry is just more easily heard thAn the positive.
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Definitely going ahead and do an exchange now. Got my replacement unit today and this one doesn't have a flicker problem at all. My last one had really bad flicker.
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Well I only got it last week so that makes it better if I submit that its faulty at this point..
might seem like a stupid question, but where the hell do I go to organize a replacement
I've seen the flicker on mine and called to replace it. I was told to try a factory reset to see if it was hardware or software. I said I'd try tomorrow and call back/set up replacement if it doesn't work. What do guys think? Could it be software?
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Hi.
I'm looking for a Nexus 7 but I can't seem to find any place which can ship to Denmark, I stumbled across Clove but £224 for the 8 gig version is just too much.
Can anyone help? Thanks.
ding0 said:
Hi.
I'm looking for a Nexus 7 but I can't seem to find any place which can ship to Denmark, I stumbled across Clove but £224 for the 8 gig version is just too much.
Can anyone help? Thanks.
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Got mine from eBay with next day ups delivery to central cph a week ago and its perfect
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my honest answer is DONT!!!!
At the moment there is to many hardware issues with the device.
-Screen separation
-Screen Flicker
-Light bleads
Imagine. on average (on xda) people are replacing their n7 about 2 times.
how much money youre going to spend on postage just to get a good unit?
Fair enough you might get a good unit at first time but you never know.
just wait till its going to be released in your country.
I was planning on buying online but decided not to just due to the cost of sending it back (for example had my Galaxy nexus shipped back twice and had to pay for it).
Oh well, I might wait.
Does these problems really occur that often
What did you pay for yours on eBay?
MattSkeet said:
Imagine. on average (on xda) people are replacing their n7 about 2 times.
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Really?! I smell a made up 'fact'...
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MattSkeet said:
my honest answer is DONT!!!!
At the moment there is to many hardware issues with the device.
-Screen separation
-Screen Flicker
-Light bleads
Imagine. on average (on xda) people are replacing their n7 about 2 times.
how much money youre going to spend on postage just to get a good unit?
Fair enough you might get a good unit at first time but you never know.
just wait till its going to be released in your country.
I was planning on buying online but decided not to just due to the cost of sending it back (for example had my Galaxy nexus shipped back twice and had to pay for it).
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Mate, you rarely see people happy with their devices on xda. People come here to whinge and mod. My device is perfect and there are plenty others without problems.
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ding0 said:
Oh well, I might wait.
Does these problems really occur that often
What did you pay for yours on eBay?
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£220 but then paid £40 for next day delivery I'm an impatient guy.
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well if you look through the topics there is more issues than positive things here.
main problem on n7 is screen flickering. this is definitely hardware issue and everyone has that, however, not everyone is so OCD about it. I'm on my 3rd one now and I have screen separation (it doesnt bother me that much tho as i can sort it out myslef), however there is "microscopic" flickering. 95% of people I would show it to probably wont even notice it yet to me its just friggin pain in the ass.
MattSkeet said:
well if you look through the topics there is more issues than positive things here.
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Because those who are happy with their device, don't post. They're busy enjoying their devices. Don't discourage others who will more than likely get a perfect device because a select few who have problems. It is very unfortunate that you have had problems and I hope you finally get one that you are pleased with.
As for the flicker. It is not 'definitely' hardware. The one x had similar issues with the tegra 3 GPU. It was solved with an ota update. I had that issue and my one x is perfect now. We in the one x forums were certain it was hardware. Loads of flaming and difference of opinions and it was sorted with a small update - I hope you guys with issues will get the same treatment.
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Well if I have to buy from eBay I might just wait till it hits Denmark, >200£ is just too expensive for my taste.
Hello,
i want to share what happen to me and how sad and dissappinted i'm with the ASUS nexus 7
i went through 4 nexus 7 (2013) in less than a month and I'm done... i got the first one when they first came out, as soon as i turn it on it said the goggle keyboard was not compatible, and every other app was not compatible, end up doing a factory reset and "it work" but the battery was only lasting 3 hrs. so i went and got a new one.
second one looked like it was working fine and i had it for a full 2 weeks... then i notice the back part where said "Asus" it was making a clicking noise, i thought it was no big deal but then the noise got louder and it was through the whole wide area of the ASUS brand in the back
third one ... fresh from them box after installing all my apps, asked me to do a reset for an update and got stock on re-staring loop over and over ...so away to bestbuy i went AGAIN.....
last one same thing had to a reset for an update..... and i got stock on the "X" of nexus and it recycles over and over and over ....
called android the guy said calls Asus that's a hardware issue
called asus... the guy said to send it over might take up to 10 days and i have to pay for the shipping.....
at this point I'm done I'm going tomorrow to return it........sucks cuz i don't want get a samsung with all the junk the put in their tables ...nexus was the way to go, for me with the pure android experience.....i'm pretty upset with the whole deal....
any advise ?
Wouldn't know what to tell you except return it and try some place else. Bestbuy might of gotten a bad shipment or something. Some have reported build quality issue but a lot of others have reported having no issues what so ever look here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2407866
I as well got mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, no separate sellers and have had very good luck with no issues after testing what others have reported. Can only say keep trying maybe some where else if have to other wise like you said if your too fed up then maybe go with something else. The new Asus memo fhd's are coming out soon but went with the nexus 7 my self because looked like had the best options, also the new nexus 10 should be coming out at some point just don't know when.
OSCSA79 said:
Hello,
i want to share what happen to me and how sad and dissappinted i'm with the ASUS nexus 7
i went through 4 nexus 7 (2013) in less than a month and I'm done... i got the first one when they first came out, as soon as i turn it on it said the goggle keyboard was not compatible, and every other app was not compatible, end up doing a factory reset and "it work" but the battery was only lasting 3 hrs. so i went and got a new one.
second one looked like it was working fine and i had it for a full 2 weeks... then i notice the back part where said "Asus" it was making a clicking noise, i thought it was no big deal but then the noise got louder and it was through the whole wide area of the ASUS brand in the back
third one ... fresh from them box after installing all my apps, asked me to do a reset for an update and got stock on re-staring loop over and over ...so away to bestbuy i went AGAIN.....
last one same thing had to a reset for an update..... and i got stock on the "X" of nexus and it recycles over and over and over ....
called android the guy said calls Asus that's a hardware issue
called asus... the guy said to send it over might take up to 10 days and i have to pay for the shipping.....
at this point I'm done I'm going tomorrow to return it........sucks cuz i don't want get a samsung with all the junk the put in their tables ...nexus was the way to go, for me with the pure android experience.....i'm pretty upset with the whole deal....
any advise ?
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at least Samsung's quality control is better and their tablets work properly.
OSCSA79 said:
Hello,
i want to share what happen to me and how sad and dissappinted i'm with the ASUS nexus 7
i went through 4 nexus 7 (2013) in less than a month and I'm done... i got the first one when they first came out, as soon as i turn it on it said the goggle keyboard was not compatible, and every other app was not compatible, end up doing a factory reset and "it work" but the battery was only lasting 3 hrs. so i went and got a new one.
second one looked like it was working fine and i had it for a full 2 weeks... then i notice the back part where said "Asus" it was making a clicking noise, i thought it was no big deal but then the noise got louder and it was through the whole wide area of the ASUS brand in the back
third one ... fresh from them box after installing all my apps, asked me to do a reset for an update and got stock on re-staring loop over and over ...so away to bestbuy i went AGAIN.....
last one same thing had to a reset for an update..... and i got stock on the "X" of nexus and it recycles over and over and over ....
called android the guy said calls Asus that's a hardware issue
called asus... the guy said to send it over might take up to 10 days and i have to pay for the shipping.....
at this point I'm done I'm going tomorrow to return it........sucks cuz i don't want get a samsung with all the junk the put in their tables ...nexus was the way to go, for me with the pure android experience.....i'm pretty upset with the whole deal....
any advise ?
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Google Keyboard is not needed because you already have it. Plus this isn't the device fault, its because 4.3 Android is new. This happens every update. Some developers only allow an app to install to specific versions. 3hours battery seems low but that depends what you do. 3 hours of screen on time playing a game is normal.
The clicking noise is the camera shutter. Most cameras do this.
Update causing bootloops... Sad to say that it appears to be a bad update that is effecting everyone. Just ignore the update or flash a custom rom.
I know you are frustrated but the devices all sound like they were fine. There aren't any reports I've seen of many defective units. Just new 4.3 software pains. The Nexus devices are mostly for developers to get access to cheap hardware with the latest software. Hence why other manufactures don't upgrade until after a few revisions.
The N7 is a great tab if you can manage the buggy update. You can skip the upgrade but it will keep asking to install it.
Unless you need a tablet now, perhaps, in your case, it would be best wait a week or two until a new update drops.
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freeza said:
at least Samsung's quality control is better and their tablets work properly.
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i agree with you... they may put a lot of junk but their good machines.....i have the gs4 ...no complaints in that department
Here is a fix to the x screen
Here is a fix to the x screen problem
I am not allowed to post links until my 10th post but if you go to youtube and put youtube / watch?v=jBKVAfZUFqI you will see the solution
OSCSA79 said:
Hello,
i want to share what happen to me and how sad and dissappinted i'm with the ASUS nexus 7
i went through 4 nexus 7 (2013) in less than a month and I'm done... i got the first one when they first came out, as soon as i turn it on it said the goggle keyboard was not compatible, and every other app was not compatible, end up doing a factory reset and "it work" but the battery was only lasting 3 hrs. so i went and got a new one.
second one looked like it was working fine and i had it for a full 2 weeks... then i notice the back part where said "Asus" it was making a clicking noise, i thought it was no big deal but then the noise got louder and it was through the whole wide area of the ASUS brand in the back
third one ... fresh from them box after installing all my apps, asked me to do a reset for an update and got stock on re-staring loop over and over ...so away to bestbuy i went AGAIN.....
last one same thing had to a reset for an update..... and i got stock on the "X" of nexus and it recycles over and over and over ....
called android the guy said calls Asus that's a hardware issue
called asus... the guy said to send it over might take up to 10 days and i have to pay for the shipping.....
at this point I'm done I'm going tomorrow to return it........sucks cuz i don't want get a samsung with all the junk the put in their tables ...nexus was the way to go, for me with the pure android experience.....i'm pretty upset with the whole deal....
any advise ?
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freeza said:
at least Samsung's quality control is better and their tablets work properly.
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I beg to differ - had to return two Note 8's recently because of horrible light bleed and dead pixels.
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My suggestion would be to order another one from a different retailer. I ordered mine direct from google. I've had it for about 2 weeks now without any issues or problems.
firstresistance said:
Here is a fix to the x screen problem
I am not allowed to post links until my 10th post but if you go to youtube and put youtube / watch?v=jBKVAfZUFqI you will see the solution
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBKVAfZUFqI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Good info. Not sure if that IS the fix as everyone I've talked too said a factory reset did little to solve anything.
It WILL fix a bootloop but it will not stop the random reboots that eventually cause the bootloops.
The reboots are from bad factory images. The only fix I've seen work is to reflash the stock rom that Google has posted.
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Your adv. work like a charm ....thx u so much
Had mine for at least 3 weeks now. All is Stoll well. Was getting random reboots on stock unrooted. Now im rooted with Cm 10.2 nightlies. Life is well for this nexus 7 owner!
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ggreenwood334 said:
Had mine for at least 3 weeks now. All is Stoll well. Was getting random reboots on stock unrooted. Now im rooted with Cm 10.2 nightlies. Life is well for this nexus 7 owner!
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is it worthy to root the nexus 7 ? your already running pure android ..... why CM if you dont mind my asking .... or is just because the problems we are having?
OSCSA79 said:
is it worthy to root the nexus 7 ? your already running pure android ..... why CM if you dont mind my asking .... or is just because the problems we are having?
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Well pure android doesn't have root. You need root for such apps like Titanium backup and App Syncing Apps. CM is just a rom. Actually it is a very stock like rom. Its pure android much like what we have on our Nexus devices but it heavily modified by the CM team. Even though more recent builds have been closer and closer to stock apps, most are complete rewrites. They have their own Camera, Dialer, Launcher, extra settings, and Theme support.
CM uses their own special kernel and drivers. It helps when troubleshooting an issue. It works very well and a great option right now.
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With all the returns going on ... I'm waiting for a great deal on refurbished 2013 Nexus 7.
I bet I can make dozen people @work to jump on the deal.
Google may raise the price on 2014 Nexus to make all of us pay.
Stuck at X logo?
Just from there enter recovery holding power + volume up when the Android Guy appears with the no command press again power + volume up then wipe cache and reboot if still stuck at the X logo repeat but factory reset this time. That's what I did with mine. In my case just wiping the cache fix it.
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Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.
An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.
laxinchili said:
As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.
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One of my cousin lives in India and wants me to despatch one to him from Amazon,sound bad?So you are clearly saying that I should wait until Asus releases more fresh ones in a few months,right?
Username invalid said:
An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.
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Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?
nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).
nsnarayan10 said:
Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?
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nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.
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Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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In a few months I'd be looking forward to the Kindle Fire HD 2's better hardware with the Snapdragon 800 CPU.
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I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).
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I got you on that,haha.Normally refurbished models come problem-free,right?I am considering waiting for it,then.What do you think?Bcz its a question of importing one.
The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.
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Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.
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I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?
Curare said:
The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.
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Can you please give me the link to brick and mortar store if they provide online service?
Thank you and you made a point!
nsnarayan10 said:
I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?
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Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.
Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?
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Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.
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Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?
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Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?
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Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.
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Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?
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You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?
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Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.
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Thank you so much bro and I am scared what if i encounter any hardware issues like Dead-pixels and light bleeding.And this product is getting imported and worse is it could not be accepted for return since the product is not yet launched in that imported country.
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You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?
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Yes forgot about the dead pixel issue, that is true but not as all have it, its pretty much rolling the dice to see if your lucky enough to get one issue free, at least at the moment. So maybe to wait would be best or even a return but the return hasn't always proven true for me. I came from the Asus transformer which was riddled with ghost touch issues, went through 3 of them just couldn't get around it whether it was a return or not.
So I was having the multitouch issues.. putting two or more fingers closely together caused major freakouts, and some swipes would just count as taps, as well as phantom taps happening. I RMA'd. got it back, only to find out all they did was a factory reset, which I had already done. Obviously this did nothing to fix the problem. I was very angry. I went to Asus support and did a chat with a support guy ( trying to remember this is not his fault ) and politely stated that the RMA had done nothing. I set up a new one, explaining that it is a hardware issue and that I wanted the screen/digitizer to be replaced. I'm sending it tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know how that goes. Has anyone else RMA'd for this and gotten it back in perfect working condition?
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So I was having the multitouch issues.. putting two or more fingers closely together caused major freakouts, and some swipes would just count as taps, as well as phantom taps happening. I RMA'd. got it back, only to find out all they did was a factory reset, which I had already done. Obviously this did nothing to fix the problem. I was very angry. I went to Asus support and did a chat with a support guy ( trying to remember this is not his fault ) and politely stated that the RMA had done nothing. I set up a new one, explaining that it is a hardware issue and that I wanted the screen/digitizer to be replaced. I'm sending it tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know how that goes. Has anyone else RMA'd for this and gotten it back in perfect working condition?
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Yes, me too, my N7 was returned to Amazon yesterday :crying:
unfortunately, I couldn't find any tablet like N7 spec and price.
sauofee said:
Yes, me too, my N7 was returned to Amazon yesterday :crying:
unfortunately, I couldn't find any tablet like N7 spec and price.
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My device only exhibits some multitouch jumpiness when not grounded. I decided to wait for Asus and Google to sort it out internally and then I will send it for repair. Now from what I heard they only replace one faulty units with another. Mine seems to be one of those better ones even though it has serious problems with basic pinch to zoom gestures when ungrounded. I keep it for now because I do not want to risk replacement with a worse one.
One question to the those of you who got a replacement. When you got your replacement devices what was the manufacturing date? Did anyone get a device from September production batch? Was it any better?
I just mailed mine in for repair yesterday. I was hoping this would resolve my screen issues but I'm getting the impression that I will be very lucky if it does.
Plan B will be to buy another one and return the first one with that receipt. Rinse repeat until I get one that works.
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I just mailed mine in for repair yesterday. I was hoping this would resolve my screen issues but I'm getting the impression that I will be very lucky if it does.
Plan B will be to buy another one and return the first one with that receipt. Rinse repeat until I get one that works.
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So annoying that's what you have to do just to get one that works. Asus..... I don't know why they didn't just go samsung or htc, as badly as asus fudged up QC on the 2012 N7
I just mailed mine in for repair today, I don't know if I did right. Mine is also from the best ones between the bad ones and I don´t want to get one in worst conditions. I know a guy who send it to asus and got it back with the screen, front and gps changed, they did not even talk about the gps or gps problems at all, so we thought it was solved because they knew what to change. When he got it back at first it was perfect, he use to had a realy faulty unit, but the next day he came saying that it was failing again, much less than before but not perfect at all. He keeps talking with the people on asus and they told him to send it back, that may be an app... ???? I guess they don't have any idea on what the problem is.
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He keeps talking with the people on asus and they told him to send it back, that may be an app... ???? I guess they don't have any idea on what the problem is.
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Yeah, the app is called JSS15* OTA update.
sfhub said:
Yeah, the app is called JSS15* OTA update.
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There is a problem with that solution, I have the grounding issue, how could just a software problem do that? Mine works nearly perfect in my hands but if you put it over a sofa... Could be a software problem with some apps but not all.
The 15x updates contained firmware (which effects the hardware) as well as software.
Sfhub's firmware patches have been 80-90% successful in minimizing or eliminating the touch problems for those who've tried them.
He knows what he's talking about.... :thumbup:
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Plan B will be to buy another one and return the first one with that receipt. Rinse repeat until I get one that works.
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So in essence, commit fraud?
Apparently.
Sad that the sellers have to take it in the shorts because Google/ASUS are so clueless and unable to provide anything remotely resembling customer service.
They'll end up with a bunch of money tied up in defective stock that they'll have to sit on until they get credit.
Next time, how many Google/ASUS tablets do you think they'll be ordering?
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So in essence, commit fraud?
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Are you from the police? Is that fraud? So how would you call what asus/google are doing...
I think people that buy a device and return defective units to the place of purchase are heroes. Especially if they return 3-5 or more. They beta test the devices, and take out the bad ones for the rest of us.
Is it fraud to buy model ABC and return model ABC to the same store? The stores have a ASUS wonderful warranty program where they can return the devices for a full year for repair and resell them to unsuspecting customers. For example, I noticed Best Buy selling a Google device recently at full price that had an extra small sticker - Bug Fix A. Isn't that fraud? LOL
Seriously, it should be fraud to sell a consumer faulty devices and expect thousands of customers to deal individually with the known problems.
Even if you buy one in one shop, then buy another in another, or the same shop, and return the first one as the second, that is what the user said. If that's the way to get a good one working... but be careful with bar codes, they will know you are not returning the same item.
There's no damage for any shop as Bob said, they just return the unit and gets new one. The biggest problem is for the user, Google is just lucky for not having more returns.
They are are all screwed up I think. Some more then others. It can be fixed with Sfhub's patches for the most part. Mine still gets strange when I play extended periods of Terraria but it is only for a second or two. I don't even think it is the device at this point but rather the game itself.
Best thing to do is go into Dev options and turn on show touchscreen inputs. Before it would skitz out and I could see like 5 touch inputs randomly on the screen. Now after Sfhubs fix, I don't see any, even when the game gets wonky.
This is why everyone knows it can be corrected via a proper patch from Google. Whether they adjust the sensitivity to touch or grounding or whatever. If Sfhub can do it, Google can. Plus it is a tiny download, his directions are precise, you don't have to be unlocked or rooted to do. There is absolutely no harm to just patch it yourself until Google makes with a fix.
Touchscreen Patch Fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428133
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They are are all screwed up I think. Some more then others. It can be fixed with Sfhub's patches for the most part. Mine still gets strange when I play extended periods of Terraria but it is only for a second or two. I don't even think it is the device at this point but rather the game itself.
Best thing to do is go into Dev options and turn on show touchscreen inputs. Before it would skitz out and I could see like 5 touch inputs randomly on the screen. Now after Sfhubs fix, I don't see any, even when the game gets wonky.
This is why everyone knows it can be corrected via a proper patch from Google. Whether they adjust the sensitivity to touch or grounding or whatever. If Sfhub can do it, Google can. Plus it is a tiny download, his directions are precise, you don't have to be unlocked or rooted to do. There is absolutely no harm to just patch it yourself until Google makes with a fix.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428133
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Correction - "Your bootloader must be UNLOCKED to use these packages. Unlocking your bootloader is covered in the stickies"
That is extracted from his post.
So no one's had a positive experience RMAing the nexus? Do the majority of units have the multitouch problem?
Sfhub's fix helped but I still get the "grounding issue" where the touchscreen goes insane if I place the nexus on certain materials. It sometimes exhibits the same problem when connected to the charger.
Other than that, the tablet works great when I hold it in my hand, no other issue to report... so I'm worried about RMAing my N7 and getting back one that not only has the same multitouch issue but now also randomly reboots or has dead pixels or dust or whatever. My warranty applies to north america only because I bought it off ebay and I don't live in the US so shipping it off to get replaced will get costly if I can't guarantee I get a working replacement back. Can I be sure that like, the newest batch of nexus 7 has been fixed and the replacement will be of that batch?
Since they're not sure what the problem is (one Google groups poster states that ASUS has had his for a month with no ETA on a fix, or when he'll get it back) I'm not sure how they can fix anything , or be certain that what they've been shipping is 'good'.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
Come and join in the fun.... :/
Looks like loads of fun. Seems I should be grateful I was lucky enough that my touch-based tablet only has a malfunctioning touch screen.
danvee said:
Since they're not sure what the problem is (one Google groups poster states that ASUS has had his for a month with no ETA on a fix, or when he'll get it back) I'm not sure how they can fix anything , or be certain that what they've been shipping is 'good'.
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Come and join in the fun.... :/
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Dude, that forum is almost like spam. I reported my issues early, 3 weeks ago or more.
Since then I get from 10+ to 20+ reports (of multiple posts) per day of people reporting issues in email. People might be worrying about me when I get two or three reports in one meeting and I'm chuckling at the comments. LOL
Seriously, it is a good idea to report your issues at that location. But, think twice about subscribing to the topic.