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Hello guys.
I live in Edmonton, AB, Canada and I honestly am not too worried about LTE.
I simply want the S4 with the better audio quality. I'm a head-fi'er!
Was wondering if anyone has compared the 9500 and the 9505 for audio quality? I'd get the phone purely based on that...
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Hello guys.
I live in Edmonton, AB, Canada and I honestly am not too worried about LTE.
I simply want the S4 with the better audio quality. I'm a head-fi'er!
Was wondering if anyone has compared the 9500 and the 9505 for audio quality? I'd get the phone purely based on that...
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the i9500 has the superior Wolfson DAC.
If it's just audio quality you're after get the i9500
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Obagleyfreer said:
the i9500 has the superior Wolfson DAC.
If it's just audio quality you're after get the i9500
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me too interest to audio in ear ....so:do we have mod for improve the i9500 sound ,i was told it has poor audio ....?
htc one:is better any way for in ear sound ?
tks gio.
The best mod is currently PureX Audio which isn't yet available for the 9500, but will be for the 9505 because its Qualcomm.
The HTC has the Qualcomm DAC and is actually pretty impressive. In ear quality is very similar to Wolfson, with the Wolfson having an ever so slight lead. But with the PureX mod, the HTC wins hands down.
Actually, according the gsmarena SQ tests both i9500 and i9505 are currently the best sounding smartphones ever: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php . I9505 is even slightly better than i9500.
It's very similar. Snapdragon is little better.
I have both versions and I find the I9500 a bit better.
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Can you explain why? What's the difference?
Because on gsmarena they say different thing and that ear can't really "hear" difference.
I don't think you can go wrong with either. Considering the measurements, db and the issues both phones have with low impedance headphones I would get the i9505 for the lte. The performance is virtually identical in all aspects of the phone, minus the i9500 getting left behind in lte speedtests. Lol. Also, you may have an opportunity to flash pure aosp if your bootloader is unlocked on the i9505. I9500 loses there too.
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Can you explain why? What's the difference?
Because on gsmarena they say different thing and that ear can't really "hear" difference.
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I have checked it if anyone is interested in it and can read my poor English. Sorry for that in advance.
Headphone was an AKG K-70. It is an old type entry level hi-fi headphone and not the best but quite enough to check the sound quality of smartphones. I can tell that it is much better than the delivered one in factory pack. Also I did not use any tone manipulation. Everything was flat.
Basically I was listening such music which contains acoustic instruments and lead vocals. The difference is recognizable. First of all I can tell that none of these phones has high-end sound quality but i9500 has better sound definitely. Listening music is enjoyable on it. You can forget that you are hearing a machine and can enjoy the music itself. The stereo sound picture is also wide and correct.
This is what I cannot tell about i9505. The balance of low and high frequency is very similar to i9500 but it has much narrow stereo room and lead singers have a lisp suddenly. Problem is getting worse as number of instrument is increased in the music. So basically let it enough.
I have not checked them with full artificial music. The real sound quality doesn’t matter in that case only the tone balance which is quite similar on both phones but I won't be able to live with sound of i9505 surly because of the hissing voice.
I hope it helps.
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I have not checked them with full artificial music. The real sound quality doesn’t matter in that case only the tone balance which is quite similar on both phones but I won't be able to live with sound of i9505 surly because of the hissing voice.
I hope it helps.
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Did you try PureX mod?
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Did you try PureX mod?
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No, I didn't. I don't find expression PureX in any menu point. Please help what you mean by this.
I used built in Music Player and turned off every stupid function which can modify the sound picture anyway. These are not capable to fix the problems. On the contrary these hide the problem. Like strawberry with sugar. It is sweet but...
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No, I didn't. I don't find expression PureX in any menu point. Please help what you mean by this.
I used built in Music Player and turned off every stupid function which can modify the sound picture anyway. These are not capable to fix the problems. On the contrary these hide the problem. Like strawberry with sugar. It is sweet but...
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With this mod should 9505 beat 9500 in audio quality.What about hissing in 9505, how often and strong is it when listen music? Did you try last stock firmware (Germany)? Because this firmware removes cracking sounds when use headphone with low independence on higher volume. And why do you have both versions (9505 and 9500), which one would you prefer (apart from sound quality)?
http://skynet-machine.appspot.com/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211163
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With this mod should 9505 beat 9500 in audio quality.What about hissing in 9505, how often and strong is it when listen music? Did you try last stock firmware (Germany)? Because this firmware removes cracking sounds when use headphone with low independence on higher volume. And why do you have both versions (9505 and 9500), which one would you prefer (apart from sound quality)?
http://skynet-machine.appspot.com/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211163
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Well I checked the link. It is interesting but sorry I was not able to read through all 33 pages. Is there anybody who has experience with it on Samsung. Perhaps you? Can it be applied on the same way? I don't know when I will be able to try it but I will. On the other hand reading through the feature list I have doubt that it can help much. I think so that mostly analog part is responsible for the difference. Prepressing of the digital signal means placebo effect rather than significant improvement at this quality level. The difference was much more than we can expect from the pureX features. Nevertheless it should be checked.
So. Not hissing was the only issue but it was the most disturbing for me at least. It happens always if "sss" comes in the song. Sing, think, etc. It sounds like singer would have speech defective. Of course this problem affects other part of the music but it is most disturbing in the vocal.
The impedance of mentioned AKG is 100 Ohm which should be more than enough for high impedance headphone output as well.
Version i9500: XXUBMEA
Version i9505: XXUBMDM
I don't prefer any of these too. Both are very same. I am not involved in games but I use internet, photo, video, navigation and music mostly. So I need good sound and LTE too. I would change my 9500 to 9505 if sound would be comparable. Since my friend bought a 9505 few days ago I could compare them.
Otherwise I am very satisfied with 9500. Reading the news earlier I expected better sound quality but finally I am OK with it. This is the only place where I am still listening CD quality.
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Well I checked the link. It is interesting but sorry I was not able to read through all 33 pages. Is there anybody who has experience with it on Samsung. Perhaps you? Can it be applied on the same way? I don't know when I will be able to try it but I will. On the other hand reading through the feature list I have doubt that it can help much. I think so that mostly analog part is responsible for the difference. Prepressing of the digital signal means placebo effect rather than significant improvement at this quality level. The difference was much more than we can expect from the pureX features. Nevertheless it should be checked.
So. Not hissing was the only issue but it was the most disturbing for me at least. It happens always if "sss" comes in the song. Sing, think, etc. It sounds like singer would have speech defective. Of course this problem affects other part of the music but it is most disturbing in the vocal.
The impedance of mentioned AKG is 100 Ohm which should be more than enough for high impedance headphone output as well.
Version i9500: XXUBMEA
Version i9505: XXUBMDM
I don't prefer any of these too. Both are very same. I am not involved in games but I use internet, photo, video, navigation and music mostly. So I need good sound and LTE too. I would change my 9500 to 9505 if sound would be comparable. Since my friend bought a 9505 few days ago I could compare them.
Otherwise I am very satisfied with 9500. Reading the news earlier I expected better sound quality but finally I am OK with it. This is the only place where I am still listening CD quality.
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Thank you very much, I have to decide which version I buy, its hell for me. There is a link where comparing 9505vs9500 audio quality, its interesting that they highlight 9505 over 9500 a little bit. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php
I dont need LTE, i preferer better audio/camera. Iam afraid of overheating 9500, a lot of people complain for that. When browsing/watching movies, its ok? I know, I can not offer you anything else than thanks, but could you please compare 9505 vs 9500 camera quality(just photos)? Make few shots with sky a post them here in full-res, so I can compare it. In the previous version of FW was better 9500 because of more small details in picture and less noise in the sky. If possible, recommend to your friend update to newer FW, because it solves a lot of bugs (audio and camera as well). new FW for 9505 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312329
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Thank you very much, I have to decide which version I buy, its hell for me. There is a link where comparing 9505vs9500 audio quality, its interesting that they highlight 9505 over 9500 a little bit. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php
I dont need LTE, i preferer better audio/camera. Iam afraid of overheating 9500, a lot of people complain for that. When browsing/watching movies, its ok? I know, I can not offer you anything else than thanks, but could you please compare 9505 vs 9500 camera quality(just photos)? Make few shots with sky a post them here in full-res, so I can compare it. In the previous version of FW was better 9500 because of more small details in picture and less noise in the sky. If possible, recommend to your friend update to newer FW, because it solves a lot of bugs (audio and camera as well). new FW for 9505 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312329
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I understand you. I was and am still in same boat. Not easy to choose.
I read the link but these data is so few. The only significant difference is the stereo crosstalk on that page. Believe me it can be even 40 or 30 and stereo picture still can be much better than the others. This info is good for nothing. However since it is less with 18 dB it means that analog electric circuit is really different in the two equipments and what I heard is really because of it basically.
Also you can read about the camera on that side. I agree with the tester that differences is due to software rather than hardware. Samsung (not only) does too many artificial post-process on their pictures which makes the comparison pointless more or less. I'll try to shot some pictures later but I don't know when we will be on the same version otherwise it really does not make sense. If phones could make raw picture ... may be. And don't forget that software updates come from time to time. If photo is so important to you, you should choose Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom. Perhaps.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/13/samsung-galaxy-s4-zoom-official-lifestyle-demo-video/
but you know well that really good picture can be shot only by using a good and big enough lens.
After all I decided to buy 9500. 1) It is Samsung. 2) May be better photo/video as I read it. 3) Better sound quality which is proved now. And this third point is important to me. What is the strange for me is that after discussion had started on the net about the two DAC I did not read a single line from Samsung in which they really prove that both are same good.
LTE? Well it is sounds good but what is the real benefit in it? May be the second hand i9505s will be more expensive with 10% two years later. But how much will this 10% be?
Overheating. I haven't had such bad experience. A bit lukewarm sometimes but SII was really warm comparing to this. But I have to tell you that I don't use games and did make only short videos max 10 min. And my FW was updated immediately after buying so I didn't have experience with problematic version. Also keep in mind that not only Samsung "overheats".
Further there is another thing. What do you intend to do? Do you want to experiment with different unofficial FWs or use and enjoy your equipment? I am already over this period and shortly I can tell that all these unofficial versions always can do one or two things better while other three or four are worse or missing. And updates are never ending. My life was to wait for when the next fix comes and then what was good earlier is wrong in recent update sometimes. No, I have had enough. I have learnt that the best and most stable version is always the factory. This is my opinion of course. It does not mean that I don't try other launchers or such but no more other FW.
So if sound quality is important to you and you listen a lot of music with acoustic instruments I wouldn't dare to recommend i9505 at all. I am sure that you and everybody will be disappointed. Although this problem is so unpleasant that may be I have to check an other piece whether it is just an individual problem or general. There is 1% chance for individual.
Music is important to me and I still chose the I9505. I have IEM's so it brings the best from the audio chip. The sound is brilliant. With power amp I brought out as much as I could. Brilliant bass and mids. I can't see how the 500 would be better as the sound is so rich and perfect
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imlgl said:
Music is important to me and I still chose the I9505. I have IEM's so it brings the best from the audio chip. The sound is brilliant. With power amp I brought out as much as I could. Brilliant bass and mids. I can't see how the 500 would be better as the sound is so rich and perfect
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Power amp always modifies the content even in flat mode too so it is tipicaly not good for test anything. Of course if you are satisfied with your 505 is cool. Enjoy it! The difference is not or not so recognizable on pure electronic music or if you modify the sound balance anyway. Aslo I have to tell that I haven''t compared the phones with factory headphone. I didn't expect that any difference can be recognizable with that. It is too low quality for this purpose.
It seem that Samsung brought a lot of frustration among their top clients, those of us who are buying their newest flagship every year or two.
They should have made a single version of S4, but with all the differences between i9505 and i9500, now only if you own them both you can declare to be somehow pleased.
Regarding the audio, I'm on i9505 and the music is not bad at all. If the others on i9500 have a different experience, perhaps better than mine, while they have their headphones while traveling with the subway, that does not bother me in any way, since I enjoy my music on my device just as well.
Then again, it is a phone. For performance, in any area, one should buy a dedicated device. It is just the way it is and will be.
Just to outline once again, I simply love my i9505 and I enjoy the music I stored on the 64 GB Samsung uhs-I card.
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Hi guys,
I am planning to buy a G2 and first I wanted to know the audio latency in the device. What is the audio latency in LG G2? I have both a HTC One and Galaxy S4, they are horrible, it is around 96 ms.
Note: To measure your audio latency download Caustic 2 from the Play Store and press the menu button (has 3 horizontal lines). I realize that this probably isn't the most accurate way to measure audio latency, but it's all we have right now.
lomo2002 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy a G2 and first I wanted to know the audio latency in the device. What is the audio latency in LG G2? I have both a HTC One and Galaxy S4, they are horrible, it is around 96 ms.
Note: To measure your audio latency download Caustic 2 from the Play Store and press the menu button (has 3 horizontal lines). I realize that this probably isn't the most accurate way to measure audio latency, but it's all we have right now.
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I'm getting 86ms so 10% better meh.
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Don't Nexus devices have the lowest of Android?
I wonder if and AOSP rom in G2 will make it better.
On nexus 4 with paranoid android just for reference.
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This thread might have been discussed before but I could not find any link.
Our dear phones come with Snapdragon S800 so it has the Qualcomm DAC. Other Android devices equipped with this DAC and processor like Galaxy Note 3 and LG G2 can play Hi res files. Z1 definitely has a best SQ output than the Note 3 IMO, I was not convinced by the Note 3's sound.
It has just the power my hungry cans need, it packs clarity, soundstage and dynamic bass, amps make it shine even more, implementation of theDAC is wonderful. Coming from an iPhone 5 (and lot of iPhones before) it was hard to find something that could actually feel like an upgrade in sound quality.
What is lacking in our devices to get them capable to read Hi Res files without downscaling bitrates to 16bit/44Khz? What is this kernel driver limitation, can't it be bypassed or modified to work like those of the Galaxy Note 3 and LG G2?
Try PowerAMP which it have his own decoder:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer
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zigory said:
Try PowerAMP which it have his own decoder:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer
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Thank you I'll give a look at it (Neutron might be a good player too). Do you think it can do the trick on its own? I wonder if it can bypass the "stock driver" limitation.
How can I change this thread to the good section?
Snapdragon 800 doesn't have native 24bit 96khz decoding, its the LG G2 that has a different DAC and custom kernel to support it. Your assumption is wrong, you can never listen to native 24bit 96khz audio on Xperia z1 or any other s800 processor phone like Note 3, Nexus 5. Poweramp and other players will basically bring it down to 16bit 48khz (or 44khz).
I'm an audiophile and all i can tell you is 16bit can sound really sweet provided DAC is well designed. I've tried LG G2 and audio sucked big time due to bad DAC quality. Z1 sounds way better than G2 or Nexus 5, and even Note 3. Z1 just falls behind Htc One which gets higher weightage coz of much higher volumes. My only complaint with Z1 audio was volume until I found the volume boost mod.
Journey from 96khz to DSD (1.4Mhz) is for audiophiles and not for normal listeners. Manufacturers like LG create a buzz by using it, but they epicly fail at delivering the basics.
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Snapdragon 800 doesn't have native 24bit 96khz decoding, its the LG G2 that has a different DAC and custom kernel to support it. Your assumption is wrong, you can never listen to native 24bit 96khz audio on Xperia z1 or any other s800 processor phone like Note 3, Nexus 5. Poweramp and other players will basically bring it down to 16bit 48khz (or 44khz).
I'm an audiophile and all i can tell you is 16bit can sound really sweet provided DAC is well designed. I've tried LG G2 and audio sucked big time due to bad DAC quality. Z1 sounds way better than G2 or Nexus 5, and even Note 3. Z1 just falls behind Htc One which gets higher weightage coz of much higher volumes. My only complaint with Z1 audio was volume until I found the volume boost mod.
Journey from 96khz to DSD (1.4Mhz) is for audiophiles and not for normal listeners. Manufacturers like LG create a buzz by using it, but they epicly fail at delivering the basics.
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I'm listening 24/96 content since z1 shows up in store ...I wrote that (just try to find) and it's sounds great ...for future don't give advices till you try something by your own ...and its for sure z1 output is great and it's not quiet -it's natural gained ...I had never listened with highest volume ...and I'm using denon ahd1100 32Ohm series
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I'm listening 24/96 content since z1 shows up in store ...I wrote that (just try to find) and it's sounds great ...for future don't give advices till you try something by your own ...and its for sure z1 output is great and it's not quiet -it's natural gained ...I had never listened with highest volume ...and I'm using denon ahd1100 32Ohm series
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Did you read it all? I'm sure you didn't. Just coz Z1 can play 24/96 doesnt mean it has a DAC which is 24/96khz. Any oldie android phone can play 24/96, it will be scaled down to 16/44 16/48 by hardware. It sounds better coz its probably a lossless 24/96 FLAC , which always sounds better than lossy mp3.
I've played 24/192khz FLAC on Z1 and it plays fine but its useless to do so.
I use 50ohm headphones and volume is too low without mod.
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I'm listening 24/96 content since z1 shows up in store ...I wrote that (just try to find) and it's sounds great ...for future don't give advices till you try something by your own ...and its for sure z1 output is great and it's not quiet -it's natural gained ...I had never listened with highest volume ...and I'm using denon ahd1100 32Ohm series
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In the future, learn to know things before you preach! Even my 5 year old S1 played 192kHz 24bit audio through Neutron but had to convert to yuck 44kHz/16bit though using voodoo sound made everything sound extraordinary for a phone.
Hi all, i was wondering if the note 4 has an accurate noise-measuring. I know my s2 for instance was capped at 98db and s3 at 83db or something. I saw youtube videos of people using the same app on different devices together + a professional db meter and they were pretty accurate. I cant find anything about this phone's limit/accuracy do is someone capable of testing this or find a source with info?
Any good choices??
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Stock music app or Poweramp
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This is a somewhat complicated issue becuase of how music players interact with the V20 dac. I've been reading about this for many months on the web, mainly on threads here, on HeadFi, and on Reddit and the consensus seems to be as follows.
The stock LG App works for everything above 48K/16 bits. But apparently, it upscales everything (including redbook 44.1/16) to 48/16. In addition, ATT and Sprint excluded it on their versions of the V20. There is a thread someplace on this website on how to add the LG stock music app to ATT and Sprint phones that does not require rooting.
There are numerous music players that correctly decode everything below 48/16 (no upscaling). But many people say that they also downscale everything above 48/16 to 48/16. Then there are some people that say that some music players (including Blackplayer and Pulsar) correctly decode samples above 48/16 (no downscaling). From what I can tell, the consensus is that Neutron downscales.
Many people really love Poweramp. But it appears that the "normal" version downscales to 48/16. Some people say that the alpha version 704 of Poweramp does not downscale, but many more say that it does (for the alpha version, you first have to buy the "normal" version from the play store and then download the alpha version from the player's website), at least for the V20 dac. Supposedly, the next version of Poweramp will be able to properly use the V20 dac, but there hasn't been a new version for many months now.
Some people root their V20 and do things to make the music player do different things - adding viper for android, for example (I'm not a techy kind of guy, so no go for me). And some people say that the entire upscale/downscale issue will be resolved when the V20 gets the Oreo update (but that won't happen until probably sometime next year).
I use the LG stock app, which I had to add to my Sprint phone. I have not done any testing to determine if any music players (beyond the stock LG player) correctly accesses the V20 dac above 48/16. My info is based solely on what I've read (mainly on the three sites mentioned above). as such, you can take this all with a grain of salt. If none of this makes any sense to you, or if you believe (as many do) that human hearing can't differentiate anything above 44/16, then get a music player that you like and that has the features that you want - which is actually the best advice anyway.
Tested neutron, poweramp alpla 704 and stock.
Stock sounds like its utilizing it, i mean it has to right?
Neutron is downsampling and you can def tell the diff.
Poweramp alpha 704 with the stock output sounds ok not better then neutron
Poweramp Alpha 704 has hi res audio support but it stopped functioning on nougat devices.my v10 utilized it and it was amazing, best audio ever.that was when the v10 was on MM. After nougat it broke the high res playback.this is case with most devices.poweramp is working on fixing it for over a year now .in the meantime theres a little trick for better quality with poweramp.if you are rooted add this line to the build.prop "ro.lenovo.hifi_support=true".then reboot after setting correct perms.poweramp high res playback will work now but only 16bit. i noticed it improves the sq.so im running it like this until poweramp gets thier **** together.BUT trust me when i say when the native high res playback starts functioning, poweramp demolishes even the stock app by a mile.my v10 on MM with poweramp hi res output sounded better than the v20.it beat every single app including the stock on v10 by a longshot.
Also in poweramp use SoX resampler.there also a noticable quality difference.
In regards to stock app resampling at 44.1/16, that is correct until you modifiy build.prop to allow direct 16pcm.
audio.offload.pcm.16bit.enable=true
I have tested several different flac files ranging from 44.1/16 to 192/24 and they all output bitperfect sound, IF dumpsys is to be trusted.
adb shell dumpsys media.audio_flinger
LG Q8 with Poweramp 704
I have an LG Q8, which is the smaller V20 with the same hardware.
After trying several apps (most mentioned in this thread, including the stock player), I kind of never got the WOW-audio I was hoping for.
There is a lot of theorizing about up- and downsampling, but what counts for me in the end is my ears. What i hear.
It all kind of sounded the same, and quite similar to my old galaxy S5 - which was quite good.
Then, when using Poweramp alfa-test-version 704, I had a major improvement in audio quality.
Phonograph
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I've read that Poweramp 704 alpha hi-res selection is actually accessing the dac on the snapdragon chip, rather than the V20 sabre dac. This is supposed to be fixed in the long-awaited next (alpha? beta?) version of Poweramp. Again, I have no proof of that, only what others have said.
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Phonograph
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Doesn't it downsamples Hi-Fi recordings?
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Doesn't it downsamples Hi-Fi recordings?
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No. Doesn't do anything.
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Does Tidal work out of the box or do I have to do anything special with that as well?
Viper4android + stock player
Eriknorway said:
I have an LG Q8, which is the smaller V20 with the same hardware.
After trying several apps (most mentioned in this thread, including the stock player), I kind of never got the WOW-audio I was hoping for.
There is a lot of theorizing about up- and downsampling, but what counts for me in the end is my ears. What i hear.
It all kind of sounded the same, and quite similar to my old galaxy S5 - which was quite good.
Then, when using Poweramp alfa-test-version 704, I had a major improvement in audio quality.
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Hello
how have you ever decided to buy LGQ8?
I have to buy a cell phone with DAC but I'm undecided between the Q8 and the ZTE Axon 7.
Do you take me straight?
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No. Doesn't do anything.
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Really? Have you measured your sample rate output?
I read on another thread that in fact Phonograph downsamples hi-fi audio.
I don't have a way to measure sample rate really, but I will try this.
3mL said:
In regards to stock app resampling at 44.1/16, that is correct until you modifiy build.prop to allow direct 16pcm.
audio.offload.pcm.16bit.enable=true
I have tested several different flac files ranging from 44.1/16 to 192/24 and they all output bitperfect sound, IF dumpsys is to be trusted.
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But modifying build.prop requires a rooted phone, correct? If not, how is this done?
Salvaparalyzer said:
Really? Have you measured your sample rate output?
I read on another thread that in fact Phonograph downsamples hi-fi audio.
I don't have a way to measure sample rate really, but I will try this.
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Yes. I tested with adb command. It doesn't downsample. Only upsamples 16/44 content which you can stop by editing build.prop
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But modifying build.prop requires a rooted phone, correct? If not, how is this done?
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As far as I know you need a rooted phone to edit build.prop.
Before I rooted I was very satisfied with Poweramp alpha 704 build to the point where I didn't root my v20 for almost 2 months when I usually root right away and put Viper on it. Need to change a few settings on Poweramp to get it to sound better like the aforementioned SoX resampler and stuff but it sounded night and day difference compared to any of the previous Galaxy phones I've used and even my brothers Nexus 6p which has the stereo sound.
Imo though nothing sounds as good as Viper paired with Dolby and a good convolver.
Does anyone know of a music player that neither upscales 44.1/16 to 48/16 nor downscales higher res files to 48/16 - i.e., actually accesses the V20 dac correctly (without rooting)?
unproductive said:
Does anyone know of a music player that neither upscales 44.1/16 to 48/16 nor downscales higher res files to 48/16 - i.e., actually accesses the V20 dac correctly (without rooting)?
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No dude. There is none. LG engineers were too autistic to program the dac right
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