Hello guys.
I live in Edmonton, AB, Canada and I honestly am not too worried about LTE.
I simply want the S4 with the better audio quality. I'm a head-fi'er!
Was wondering if anyone has compared the 9500 and the 9505 for audio quality? I'd get the phone purely based on that...
unregistered_ said:
Hello guys.
I live in Edmonton, AB, Canada and I honestly am not too worried about LTE.
I simply want the S4 with the better audio quality. I'm a head-fi'er!
Was wondering if anyone has compared the 9500 and the 9505 for audio quality? I'd get the phone purely based on that...
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the i9500 has the superior Wolfson DAC.
If it's just audio quality you're after get the i9500
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Obagleyfreer said:
the i9500 has the superior Wolfson DAC.
If it's just audio quality you're after get the i9500
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me too interest to audio in ear ....so:do we have mod for improve the i9500 sound ,i was told it has poor audio ....?
htc one:is better any way for in ear sound ?
tks gio.
The best mod is currently PureX Audio which isn't yet available for the 9500, but will be for the 9505 because its Qualcomm.
The HTC has the Qualcomm DAC and is actually pretty impressive. In ear quality is very similar to Wolfson, with the Wolfson having an ever so slight lead. But with the PureX mod, the HTC wins hands down.
Actually, according the gsmarena SQ tests both i9500 and i9505 are currently the best sounding smartphones ever: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php . I9505 is even slightly better than i9500.
It's very similar. Snapdragon is little better.
I have both versions and I find the I9500 a bit better.
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Can you explain why? What's the difference?
Because on gsmarena they say different thing and that ear can't really "hear" difference.
I don't think you can go wrong with either. Considering the measurements, db and the issues both phones have with low impedance headphones I would get the i9505 for the lte. The performance is virtually identical in all aspects of the phone, minus the i9500 getting left behind in lte speedtests. Lol. Also, you may have an opportunity to flash pure aosp if your bootloader is unlocked on the i9505. I9500 loses there too.
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Can you explain why? What's the difference?
Because on gsmarena they say different thing and that ear can't really "hear" difference.
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I have checked it if anyone is interested in it and can read my poor English. Sorry for that in advance.
Headphone was an AKG K-70. It is an old type entry level hi-fi headphone and not the best but quite enough to check the sound quality of smartphones. I can tell that it is much better than the delivered one in factory pack. Also I did not use any tone manipulation. Everything was flat.
Basically I was listening such music which contains acoustic instruments and lead vocals. The difference is recognizable. First of all I can tell that none of these phones has high-end sound quality but i9500 has better sound definitely. Listening music is enjoyable on it. You can forget that you are hearing a machine and can enjoy the music itself. The stereo sound picture is also wide and correct.
This is what I cannot tell about i9505. The balance of low and high frequency is very similar to i9500 but it has much narrow stereo room and lead singers have a lisp suddenly. Problem is getting worse as number of instrument is increased in the music. So basically let it enough.
I have not checked them with full artificial music. The real sound quality doesn’t matter in that case only the tone balance which is quite similar on both phones but I won't be able to live with sound of i9505 surly because of the hissing voice.
I hope it helps.
obladi63 said:
I have not checked them with full artificial music. The real sound quality doesn’t matter in that case only the tone balance which is quite similar on both phones but I won't be able to live with sound of i9505 surly because of the hissing voice.
I hope it helps.
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Did you try PureX mod?
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Did you try PureX mod?
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No, I didn't. I don't find expression PureX in any menu point. Please help what you mean by this.
I used built in Music Player and turned off every stupid function which can modify the sound picture anyway. These are not capable to fix the problems. On the contrary these hide the problem. Like strawberry with sugar. It is sweet but...
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No, I didn't. I don't find expression PureX in any menu point. Please help what you mean by this.
I used built in Music Player and turned off every stupid function which can modify the sound picture anyway. These are not capable to fix the problems. On the contrary these hide the problem. Like strawberry with sugar. It is sweet but...
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With this mod should 9505 beat 9500 in audio quality.What about hissing in 9505, how often and strong is it when listen music? Did you try last stock firmware (Germany)? Because this firmware removes cracking sounds when use headphone with low independence on higher volume. And why do you have both versions (9505 and 9500), which one would you prefer (apart from sound quality)?
http://skynet-machine.appspot.com/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211163
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With this mod should 9505 beat 9500 in audio quality.What about hissing in 9505, how often and strong is it when listen music? Did you try last stock firmware (Germany)? Because this firmware removes cracking sounds when use headphone with low independence on higher volume. And why do you have both versions (9505 and 9500), which one would you prefer (apart from sound quality)?
http://skynet-machine.appspot.com/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211163
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Well I checked the link. It is interesting but sorry I was not able to read through all 33 pages. Is there anybody who has experience with it on Samsung. Perhaps you? Can it be applied on the same way? I don't know when I will be able to try it but I will. On the other hand reading through the feature list I have doubt that it can help much. I think so that mostly analog part is responsible for the difference. Prepressing of the digital signal means placebo effect rather than significant improvement at this quality level. The difference was much more than we can expect from the pureX features. Nevertheless it should be checked.
So. Not hissing was the only issue but it was the most disturbing for me at least. It happens always if "sss" comes in the song. Sing, think, etc. It sounds like singer would have speech defective. Of course this problem affects other part of the music but it is most disturbing in the vocal.
The impedance of mentioned AKG is 100 Ohm which should be more than enough for high impedance headphone output as well.
Version i9500: XXUBMEA
Version i9505: XXUBMDM
I don't prefer any of these too. Both are very same. I am not involved in games but I use internet, photo, video, navigation and music mostly. So I need good sound and LTE too. I would change my 9500 to 9505 if sound would be comparable. Since my friend bought a 9505 few days ago I could compare them.
Otherwise I am very satisfied with 9500. Reading the news earlier I expected better sound quality but finally I am OK with it. This is the only place where I am still listening CD quality.
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Well I checked the link. It is interesting but sorry I was not able to read through all 33 pages. Is there anybody who has experience with it on Samsung. Perhaps you? Can it be applied on the same way? I don't know when I will be able to try it but I will. On the other hand reading through the feature list I have doubt that it can help much. I think so that mostly analog part is responsible for the difference. Prepressing of the digital signal means placebo effect rather than significant improvement at this quality level. The difference was much more than we can expect from the pureX features. Nevertheless it should be checked.
So. Not hissing was the only issue but it was the most disturbing for me at least. It happens always if "sss" comes in the song. Sing, think, etc. It sounds like singer would have speech defective. Of course this problem affects other part of the music but it is most disturbing in the vocal.
The impedance of mentioned AKG is 100 Ohm which should be more than enough for high impedance headphone output as well.
Version i9500: XXUBMEA
Version i9505: XXUBMDM
I don't prefer any of these too. Both are very same. I am not involved in games but I use internet, photo, video, navigation and music mostly. So I need good sound and LTE too. I would change my 9500 to 9505 if sound would be comparable. Since my friend bought a 9505 few days ago I could compare them.
Otherwise I am very satisfied with 9500. Reading the news earlier I expected better sound quality but finally I am OK with it. This is the only place where I am still listening CD quality.
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Thank you very much, I have to decide which version I buy, its hell for me. There is a link where comparing 9505vs9500 audio quality, its interesting that they highlight 9505 over 9500 a little bit. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php
I dont need LTE, i preferer better audio/camera. Iam afraid of overheating 9500, a lot of people complain for that. When browsing/watching movies, its ok? I know, I can not offer you anything else than thanks, but could you please compare 9505 vs 9500 camera quality(just photos)? Make few shots with sky a post them here in full-res, so I can compare it. In the previous version of FW was better 9500 because of more small details in picture and less noise in the sky. If possible, recommend to your friend update to newer FW, because it solves a lot of bugs (audio and camera as well). new FW for 9505 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312329
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Thank you very much, I have to decide which version I buy, its hell for me. There is a link where comparing 9505vs9500 audio quality, its interesting that they highlight 9505 over 9500 a little bit. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php
I dont need LTE, i preferer better audio/camera. Iam afraid of overheating 9500, a lot of people complain for that. When browsing/watching movies, its ok? I know, I can not offer you anything else than thanks, but could you please compare 9505 vs 9500 camera quality(just photos)? Make few shots with sky a post them here in full-res, so I can compare it. In the previous version of FW was better 9500 because of more small details in picture and less noise in the sky. If possible, recommend to your friend update to newer FW, because it solves a lot of bugs (audio and camera as well). new FW for 9505 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312329
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I understand you. I was and am still in same boat. Not easy to choose.
I read the link but these data is so few. The only significant difference is the stereo crosstalk on that page. Believe me it can be even 40 or 30 and stereo picture still can be much better than the others. This info is good for nothing. However since it is less with 18 dB it means that analog electric circuit is really different in the two equipments and what I heard is really because of it basically.
Also you can read about the camera on that side. I agree with the tester that differences is due to software rather than hardware. Samsung (not only) does too many artificial post-process on their pictures which makes the comparison pointless more or less. I'll try to shot some pictures later but I don't know when we will be on the same version otherwise it really does not make sense. If phones could make raw picture ... may be. And don't forget that software updates come from time to time. If photo is so important to you, you should choose Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom. Perhaps.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/13/samsung-galaxy-s4-zoom-official-lifestyle-demo-video/
but you know well that really good picture can be shot only by using a good and big enough lens.
After all I decided to buy 9500. 1) It is Samsung. 2) May be better photo/video as I read it. 3) Better sound quality which is proved now. And this third point is important to me. What is the strange for me is that after discussion had started on the net about the two DAC I did not read a single line from Samsung in which they really prove that both are same good.
LTE? Well it is sounds good but what is the real benefit in it? May be the second hand i9505s will be more expensive with 10% two years later. But how much will this 10% be?
Overheating. I haven't had such bad experience. A bit lukewarm sometimes but SII was really warm comparing to this. But I have to tell you that I don't use games and did make only short videos max 10 min. And my FW was updated immediately after buying so I didn't have experience with problematic version. Also keep in mind that not only Samsung "overheats".
Further there is another thing. What do you intend to do? Do you want to experiment with different unofficial FWs or use and enjoy your equipment? I am already over this period and shortly I can tell that all these unofficial versions always can do one or two things better while other three or four are worse or missing. And updates are never ending. My life was to wait for when the next fix comes and then what was good earlier is wrong in recent update sometimes. No, I have had enough. I have learnt that the best and most stable version is always the factory. This is my opinion of course. It does not mean that I don't try other launchers or such but no more other FW.
So if sound quality is important to you and you listen a lot of music with acoustic instruments I wouldn't dare to recommend i9505 at all. I am sure that you and everybody will be disappointed. Although this problem is so unpleasant that may be I have to check an other piece whether it is just an individual problem or general. There is 1% chance for individual.
Music is important to me and I still chose the I9505. I have IEM's so it brings the best from the audio chip. The sound is brilliant. With power amp I brought out as much as I could. Brilliant bass and mids. I can't see how the 500 would be better as the sound is so rich and perfect
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imlgl said:
Music is important to me and I still chose the I9505. I have IEM's so it brings the best from the audio chip. The sound is brilliant. With power amp I brought out as much as I could. Brilliant bass and mids. I can't see how the 500 would be better as the sound is so rich and perfect
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Power amp always modifies the content even in flat mode too so it is tipicaly not good for test anything. Of course if you are satisfied with your 505 is cool. Enjoy it! The difference is not or not so recognizable on pure electronic music or if you modify the sound balance anyway. Aslo I have to tell that I haven''t compared the phones with factory headphone. I didn't expect that any difference can be recognizable with that. It is too low quality for this purpose.
It seem that Samsung brought a lot of frustration among their top clients, those of us who are buying their newest flagship every year or two.
They should have made a single version of S4, but with all the differences between i9505 and i9500, now only if you own them both you can declare to be somehow pleased.
Regarding the audio, I'm on i9505 and the music is not bad at all. If the others on i9500 have a different experience, perhaps better than mine, while they have their headphones while traveling with the subway, that does not bother me in any way, since I enjoy my music on my device just as well.
Then again, it is a phone. For performance, in any area, one should buy a dedicated device. It is just the way it is and will be.
Just to outline once again, I simply love my i9505 and I enjoy the music I stored on the 64 GB Samsung uhs-I card.
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Any idea about the dac looking the firmware, or any other source?
I really hope that samsung has learned the lesson of the S2 and we can get the wolfson again. That make the note the perfect phone for about 2 years.
Very likely to be the Yamaha one given the amount of components shared. Unfortunately.
Audio is supposed to be excellent.
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Audio is supposed to be excellent.
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Why do you think that?
The audio of the S2 is pure crap, if they don't change the dac, it will be the same.
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Why do you think that?
The audio of the S2 is pure crap, if they don't change the dac, it will be the same.
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Comments from people who have had their hands on the device.
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Very likely to be the Yamaha one given the amount of components shared. Unfortunately.
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Could you elaborate that?
Just put my hands on the note in a show room..I like it!
But if the sound is not at least as good as the sgs1's , thats a deal breaker for me...
Tx
betoNL said:
Could you elaborate that?
Just put my hands on the note in a show room..I like it!
But if the sound is not at least as good as the sgs1's , thats a deal breaker for me...
Tx
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323764
Tx..
I already had found that thread and even posted over there
S2 Audio
I've been reading here and at other sites that the sound quality from the Galaxy S2 is inferior. I've had the S2 for two months now and must say the audio quality is very good. I came to android from an iPhone 4 and find the music quality to be as good if not better. I'm not an audiophile, although I used to be when money was not an object. I did find that when using power amp that I could get a higher volume output with better quality. I stopped using power amp with the advent of Google music and I'm finding quality to be just amazing with Google. I tried it head-to-head with power amp and found it to be better. I don't know if Google is modifying the music to minimize the problems with the DAC that you guys are talking about, but it seems that way. Most of my music is played either on Bose headphones or Nokia 905 Bluetooth headphones. The music I listen to varies greatly from pop, R&B, rock and jazz, all of which sounds phenomenal on galaxy S2. So all I can say to the average user expecting good quality sound from their phone that the S2 is more than capable of doing that. But if you're a demanding audiophile I guess that's not the case from what I've read.
Hello to all!
does any body has done a deep review about the sound quality in s4?
is it good with earphones?
s3 was not so good and i use the mod beats.
in s4 is there an upgrade ?
bass are good?
really thanks!
marci4na said:
Hello to all!
does any body has done a deep review about the sound quality in s4?
is it good with earphones?
s3 was not so good and i use the mod beats.
in s4 is there an upgrade ?
bass are good?
really thanks!
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The volume is higher than both S3 and N2, but my personal opinion is that there still is missing some "Ompfff Ompfff Ompfff" comparing to other phones in my collection.
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The volume is higher than both S3 and N2, but my personal opinion is that there still is missing some "Ompfff Ompfff Ompfff" comparing to other phones in my collection.
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with poweramp?
have you set equ properlY?
I have been trying out different songs on the S4 I9505X on both bass boost and custom mode and normal mode with different songs vs my HTC one with beats on/off using ur beats earphones.
I tell you what the HTC is louder with beats on/off vs the S4 in bass boost/custom but the S4 has way more bass and is better to listen to imo.
With the S4 is normal mode the s4 is about three notches off being as loud as the htc one, so I dont know where on earth GSM arena get average volume levels from as the S4 is a beast for music I was so shocked at not only the loudness but the clarity as I have to listen to my htc one now with power amp to get proper bass but on the s4 i dont. It is far better than the S3/Note 2 aswell the note 2/s3 with power amp sucks imo its too distorted.
*The things I prefer on my htc one are
the screen but the difference isnt like it was with the one x vs the s3, as the screen on the s4 is nice.
*I prefer the fact i can send ten page messages where as on the s4 its only three page messages, also I prefer HTCs keyboard and spelling.saving words better
*I think video and defo video audio is better on the One
*Speakers on the one are better
*weather widget/clock
*the one is generally quicker as well
But there is alot of great things about the S4 and I cant wait to get one.
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I have been trying out different songs on the S4 I9505X on both bass boost and custom mode and normal mode with different songs vs my HTC one with beats on/off using ur beats earphones.
I tell you what the HTC is louder with beats on/off vs the S4 in bass boost/custom but the S4 has way more bass and is better to listen to imo.
With the S4 is normal mode the s4 is about three notches off being as loud as the htc one, so I dont know where on earth GSM arena get average volume levels from as the S4 is a beast for music I was so shocked at not only the loudness but the clarity as I have to listen to my htc one now with power amp to get proper bass but on the s4 i dont. It is far better than the S3/Note 2 aswell the note 2/s3 with power amp sucks imo its too distorted.
*The things I prefer on my htc one are
the screen but the difference isnt like it was with the one x vs the s3, as the screen on the s4 is nice.
*I prefer the fact i can send ten page messages where as on the s4 its only three page messages, also I prefer HTCs keyboard and spelling.saving words better
*I think video and defo video audio is better on the One
*Speakers on the one are better
*weather widget/clock
*the one is generally quicker as well
But there is alot of great things about the S4 and I cant wait to get one.
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thanks dude! so it's ok!
i am wondering why someone says that it has got orrible quality without basses...
marci4na said:
thanks dude! so it's ok!
i am wondering why someone says that it has got orrible quality without basses...
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I have tried 6 different I9505Xs in the last 3 days in different shops the audio is the same, clear, loud and great bass. great phone the only things I would change is the keyboard, the text message limit of 3 pages, camera/video FOV and the audio mics and most importantly price lol.
Is there any background static at all? I will be connecting this to my car though and AUX jack and if there is any background noise it is amplified and thus very noticeable when no songs are playing.
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Is there any background static at all? I will be connecting this to my car though and AUX jack and if there is any background noise it is amplified and thus very noticeable when no songs are playing.
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I havent noticed any background static on the S4, I notice it in some songs on my HTC though
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Is there any background static at all? I will be connecting this to my car though and AUX jack and if there is any background noise it is amplified and thus very noticeable when no songs are playing.
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I get some noise but my s3 did too. Think it's more to do with my wire/stereo. Thinking of buying a ground loop isolater to see if that helps. Its only noticeable in quiet parts though.
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I get some noise but my s3 did too. Think it's more to do with my wire/stereo. Thinking of buying a ground loop isolater to see if that helps. Its only noticeable in quiet parts though.
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Does it sound electrical? Like if the you do something on the phone (scroll a page, load something, etc.) does the sound change? If yes, then its the phones fault and it will be much more noticeable.
Here is an example where someone else had a problem with a computer: http://www.sevenforums.com/sound-au...und-noises-my-headset-plugged-sound-card.html
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Does it sound electrical? Like if the you do something on the phone (scroll a page, load something, etc.) does the sound change? If yes, then its the phones fault and it will be much more noticeable.
Here is an example where someone else had a problem with a computer: http://www.sevenforums.com/sound-au...und-noises-my-headset-plugged-sound-card.html
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It's like an electrical/static whine. It happens all the time, even with the phones screen off just playing tunes.
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I havent noticed any background static on the S4, I notice it in some songs on my HTC though
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I noticed a lot of noise on the HTC One, but it went away when I turned off Beats. Is this the same behavior you are seeing?
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I noticed a lot of noise on the HTC One, but it went away when I turned off Beats. Is this the same behavior you are seeing?
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I will do a test today, as i normally listen to music via power amp. I know i get distortion in some songs on power amp with beats on havent tried it with beats off. Tbh I do miss having a standard music player with customizations like on the S4.
I am very impressed with the S4s overall audio its better than the HTC for clarity, bass and its not far off the loudness either, for me to get the same sort of bass the s4 has I have to use power amp, I can only imagine how power amp sounds on the s4.
I mean I was so tempted to swap my HTC One for a S4 but there is still things i prefer on the htc, like messaging (especially as I often send very long messages (s4 limits you to 3 pages) and send messages to mutliple contacts (s4 limits you to 10 contacts), video/video audio, speakers, can watch videos when in a phone call using stock video player but the S4 does have a hell of a lot of easier to use features, like notification toggles and the gesture stuff and the fact u can use any gloves on the screen.
Audio quality is pretty okay, but take note of this if you use low impedance earphones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258831
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I noticed a lot of noise on the HTC One, but it went away when I turned off Beats. Is this the same behavior you are seeing?
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Having been listening to loads of songs on my One, I have tried the phone with stock music player with beats on/off the sound is defo clearer with beats off on most songs other songs its about the same and then others beats audio on is better.
On power amp songs are defo clearer with beats audio off.
I also tried a few of the same songs on the S4 and didnt have the same problems in normal mode of bass boost or custom.
Btw I have found something interesting about the I9505X , the white models (and I have tried about 5 now in loads of different shops) have lower volume than the black version and I have done black/white side by side comparisons and the white version definately has lower volume wtf is up with that. Not that is concerns me as I am going for the black anyway but I find that strange.
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Having been listening to loads of songs on my One, I have tried the phone with stock music player with beats on/off the sound is defo clearer with beats off on most songs other songs its about the same and then others beats audio on is better.
On power amp songs are defo clearer with beats audio off.
I also tried a few of the same songs on the S4 and didnt have the same problems in normal mode of bass boost or custom.
Btw I have found something interesting about the I9505X , the white models (and I have tried about 5 now in loads of different shops) have lower volume than the black version and I have done black/white side by side comparisons and the white version definately has lower volume wtf is up with that. Not that is concerns me as I am going for the black anyway but I find that strange.
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so btw s4 and htc whats do you prefer?
i use poweramp with sennheizer cx300 and full bass and treble equ.
with s3 i had beats mod...do you thik i will hear differences with my s4?
thanks
marci4na said:
so btw s4 and htc whats do you prefer?
i use poweramp with sennheizer cx300 and full bass and treble equ.
with s3 i had beats mod...do you thik i will hear differences with my s4?
thanks
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Defo prefer the S4,
The sound quality on the s4 is far better than that on the s3. Music is the third most used thing on a phone for me after calls and texts, then its watching videos, then taking pics and videos.
out of those things the S4 wins on calls, music, watching videos, taking pics (in most situations) aldo video quality imo is as good as the HTC but HTC has better sound and I could really do with the longer battery life and memory card slot now seeing as I am rapidly eating into the 25gb that came with the phone
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Defo prefer the S4,
The sound quality on the s4 is far better than that on the s3. Music is the third most used thing on a phone for me after calls and texts, then its watching videos, then taking pics and videos.
out of those things the S4 wins on calls, music, watching videos, taking pics (in most situations) aldo video quality imo is as good as the HTC but HTC has better sound and I could really do with the longer battery life and memory card slot now seeing as I am rapidly eating into the 25gb that came with the phone
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hello! have you heard about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258831
do you know anything?
i am terrified...my s4 is not yet arrived....
marci4na said:
hello! have you heard about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258831
do you know anything?
i am terrified...my s4 is not yet arrived....
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Yep I had seen that before I got my s4 and was not worried atall and now i have my s4 i am not worried now as I have no issues with my s4
marci4na said:
hello! have you heard about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258831
do you know anything?
i am terrified...my s4 is not yet arrived....
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The CX300 supposedly has issues with the S4. But it may have been solved with later batches. Do report back whether it sounds fine at higher volumes!
for only audio in ear :
s4 exynos with wolfson dac "i9500" or snapdragon version "i9505 ?
tks gio.
P.S. any mod to improve sound ,something like voodoo sound ? or htc on is better any away ?
I9500 will probably be better due to utilising a Wolfson DAC.
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I9500 will probably be better due to utilising a Wolfson DAC.
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i think so ,bu has any body tried yet ...to explain better ?
tks gio.
I've the I9500 and i'm very happy with it.. audio output is amazing and they say the camera lens on the I9500 is better than I9505. But I9505 have more developer support (for now) and as far as we know GS4 Google Edition will use the same hardware as I9505 which means they will get better experience with AOSP roms.
LOL what are you talking about camera lense better??? Where are your proper sources??? My sound is great on the I9505 and so is the camera
ASIF samsung will make one noticeably better then the other, the CPU different story Thats up to the user discretionut b all real time usage should perform the same but as for camera and sound??? Please pff Show me legit sources and someone who knows what they are talking about that can convince me that one is noticeably better then the other. ALl those picture comparisons do not show me one is better then the other. I know the camera lense is RS on the Octa compare to R on the S600 but this doesn't mean that the upgrade was due to quality the upgrade could be in many different variables
Is like saying the First PS3 model number ***** doesnt perform quality wise comparing to the lastest Slim PS3 model ****,,,,, They both have same graphics and gameplay is the same....
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LOL what are you talking about camera lense better??? Where are your proper sources??? My sound is great on the I9505 and so is the camera
ASIF samsung will make one better then the other CPU different story Thats up to the user discretion..... but camera and sound??? Pleasee pff Show me legit sources and someone who knows what they are talking about
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O.T. i'm talking about audio...isn't it clear ?
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O.T. i'm talking about audio...isn't it clear ?
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Perfectly clear.... Headphone and Speaker. Not a single problem. If I had a problem I would of returned in by now
Ok, everyone says the 9505 will have more development attention, does this mean that all 9505 models from all carriers will get the same tweaks? Its confusing with all these at&t, tmobile, and sprint models, yet its the same 9505. Can someone help? Thanks
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so non info yet about my questions ?
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LOL what are you talking about camera lense better??? Where are your proper sources??? My sound is great on the I9505 and so is the camera
ASIF samsung will make one noticeably better then the other, the CPU different story Thats up to the user discretionut b all real time usage should perform the same but as for camera and sound??? Please pff Show me legit sources and someone who knows what they are talking about that can convince me that one is noticeably better then the other. ALl those picture comparisons do not show me one is better then the other. I know the camera lense is RS on the Octa compare to R on the S600 but this doesn't mean that the upgrade was due to quality the upgrade could be in many different variables
Is like saying the First PS3 model number ***** doesnt perform quality wise comparing to the lastest Slim PS3 model ****,,,,, They both have same graphics and gameplay is the same....
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When will you stop trying to justify to yourself that the i9505 is the best.. who cares, as long as you're happy with your device.
Oh and since you seem to post everywhere that the Exmor RS is probably not an upgrade as far as picture quality is concerned, why don't you read up, since that info is available publicly : http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201208/12-107E/
About the audio, the tests have showed that the i9505 is very good, even when using speakers (stereo crosstalk remains stable).
I haven't seen such detailed tests on the i9500, but it's supposed to be very good too, since it uses a Wolfson chipset.
I imagine the Wolfson can pump out more volume out of the box and with some tweaks maybe a little more, but the Qualcomm DSP measures pretty damn flat and supposedly volume is supposed to be decent. If it's better than the nexus 4 then I will be happy.
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Just having a Wolfson does nothing whatsoever to guarantee better sound quality, it still depends very significantly on the implementation of the DAC folks.
I have both models, will be doing a blind test to compare them (possibly later today).
To the OP: if you are using low impedance IEMs (<16ohms) that the i9505 has a very significant problem with crackling in the bass frequencies. I get some UE600 today (13ohm impedance at 1KHz, ~9ohms over the bass frequencies) and will test the i9500 with that to see whether it has the same problem.
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Just having a Wolfson does nothing whatsoever to guarantee better sound quality, it still depends very significantly on the implementation of the DAC folks.
I have both models, will be doing a blind test to compare them (possibly later today).
To the OP: if you are using low impedance IEMs (<16ohms) that the i9505 has a very significant problem with crackling in the bass frequencies. I get some UE600 today (13ohm impedance at 1KHz, ~9ohms over the bass frequencies) and will test the i9500 with that to see whether it has the same problem.
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It does, sadly both models have the issue.
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Morning all, I've always had an android phone, more recently I've joined a well known financial firm and obtained a brand new iPhone 6 for literally nothing, which is essentially the anti Christ in my eyes, to my dismay I realised that not only was this phone everything I thought it wasn't it's also got superb battery life and is ridiculously louder than my note 4 with far better bass, my question is this, can lollipop sound be boosted, I'm currently on echo pop Rom, the audio with ael kernel doesn't work as it should by all accounts. But having owned an S3, I know Samsung phones are toned down when it comes to the audio.
My iPhone is pure stock, it's audio is amazing, both on headphones, Bluetooth and speaker volume.
All help appreciated.
@dladz IPhone? You know that santan will come for your soul tonight, right? But to get back on the subject, I have to agree on the sound, I personally think that with the same Headset the iPhone sounds better then the stock Note4. Battery life of the iPhone is the same or a little less then the Note4. Regards
My dogs names marley, weird. But I agree, the audio is superior. Samsung shouldn't hold their audio back, think they've always done that though. .
Hi, I would say that the audio from the note 4 is better than the iphone, but only when you are using google play music. This is because it is one of the few apps that doesn't use Samsung's software equaliser, The DAC on the snapdragon 805 is better than that of the iphones cirrus logic chip, plus it supports 24 bit 192 khz audio decoding on the chip. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more praise for the note 4's audio.
P.s. The Note 4 (SM-N910F) & SoundMagic E10 are a stunning combo.
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I all bull****. Iphones audio quality is rubbish. No equalizers, viper audio is far superior.
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I'm sure theres a few thread knocking around in the apps and themes section. They will probably up the default volumes by a bit by altering the default values in the system, then I would use Viper Audio, which I also agree is superior.
I literally could not believe the difference once Viper was installed and configured it blew me away.
Samsung may have a better way of decoding the audio but what good is that with a small shi**y speaker.
I think personally if you want a phone for its audio quality its HTC one all day.
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I all bull****. Iphones audio quality is rubbish. No equalizers, viper audio is far superior.
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Did you actually read what I wrote ? I have always hated apple. I got this phone for next to nothing, the only reason I chose it is because I've never has one, that being said I didn't start this thread to spark a debate, that's not what this is so if you want to come in here and moan on about apple and say the audio is terrible then don't, I asked a question, if you do not have an answer then kindly either remove your comment or don't write anything.
Viper audio is a good mod, as is acid sound mod too. However, at stock levels the iPhone is miles ahead. Even with the note 4 tweaked the iPhone was ahead. I haven't tried acid mod as I don't think it's available for the note 4 as of yet but besides that I think it's a lost cause.
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Hi, I would say that the audio from the note 4 is better than the iphone, but only when you are using google play music. This is because it is one of the few apps that doesn't use Samsung's software equaliser, The DAC on the snapdragon 805 is better than that of the iphones cirrus logic chip, plus it supports 24 bit 192 khz audio decoding on the chip. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more praise for the note 4's audio.
P.s. The Note 4 (SM-N910F) & SoundMagic E10 are a stunning combo.
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Agree with the chip, we know from HTC that great things can be done with it, however this isn't HTC it's Samsung and the speaker is tinny and low (at stock) I just compared the two devices with the same song..please try it next time you're in a phone shop, the difference is undeniable.
Haven't used sound magic, but I do own the 910f, at least until the M9 comes out anyway.
If acid mod comes out on the note 4 I have no doubt that the audio will vastly improve, last time I used this (or even needed it) was on my galaxy S3, the audio on that phone was similarly shocking, with that mod it was one of the loudest phones I've ever heard.
On your second point. I completely disagree with it, Google play makes no difference in this comparison.
I have tried, I also use power amp which is undoubtedly the best player to ever grace android.
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I'm sure theres a few thread knocking around in the apps and themes section. They will probably up the default volumes by a bit by altering the default values in the system, then I would use Viper Audio, which I also agree is superior.
I literally could not believe the difference once Viper was installed and configured it blew me away.
Samsung may have a better way of decoding the audio but what good is that with a small shi**y speaker.
I think personally if you want a phone for its audio quality its HTC one all day.
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There are a few threads, not the one I was looking for (acid mod) but again like you said it's a terrible speaker, also if you think about it, with HTC (besides the speakers) you have an active eq, software that adapts and adapts well, that's literally what the iphone has, they also own beats now too which is essentially what the eq was on HTC devices, I'm guessing that they might have used some code from the beats software for boomsound.
With viper , as much as it may help , it's not an active eq, it doesn't mould to the music the way the other two do, neither does acid.
Louder ? Maybe. Better audio quality ? I'm not so sure.
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Agree with the chip, we know from HTC that great things can be done with it, however this isn't HTC it's Samsung and the speaker is tinny and low (at stock) I just compared the two devices with the same song..please try it next time you're in a phone shop, the difference is undeniable.
Haven't used sound magic, but I do own the 910f, at least until the M9 comes out anyway.
If acid mod comes out on the note 4 I have no doubt that the audio will vastly improve, last time I used this (or even needed it) was on my galaxy S3, the audio on that phone was similarly shocking, with that mod it was one of the loudest phones I've ever heard.
On your second point. I completely disagree with it, Google play makes no difference in this comparison.
I have tried, I also use power amp which is undoubtedly the best player to ever grace android.
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I do like HTC for their boom sound speakers, but when I have my headphones on I'm more of an audiophile. It may be a selective carrier thing or just software variations but with play music (actually, after some testing, all non samsung audio player apps) have a much more natural and slightly louder sound. There must be some software sound enhancement trickery on the touchwiz side.
I do understand that sound is subjective, so what I hear others may hear differently. These are just my obeservations
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I do like HTC for their boom sound speakers, but when I have my headphones on I'm more of an audiophile. It may be a selective carrier thing or just software variations but with play music (actually, after some testing, all non samsung audio player apps) have a much more natural and slightly louder sound. There must be some software sound enhancement trickery on the touchwiz side.
I do understand that sound is subjective, so what I hear others may hear differently. These are just my obeservations
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Try audiotechnica w5000's never heard anything quite like them before. Cost you an arm and a leg but the audio is phenomenal.
the solution is
doing a root an install Walkman player fuul ported from its Z3
really amazing Sony is with its sound technology
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the solution is
doing a root an install Walkman player fuul ported from its Z3
really amazing Sony is with its sound technology
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Haven't tried that before but I did own a Z1 which i rooted, the audio for me wasn't out of this world, the iPhone still has much better audio i'm afraid, htc definitely better audio.
Sony does have some plus points but don't think the audio is better mate.
Seems no one has yet made note of this Handsets audio capabilities...at least ive seen yet but I was very surprised to see listed 32bit audio :
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
- 32-bit/384kHz audio
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Ive had galaxies in the past but none listed had hi-res capabilities till now and i was gonna get the V20 but figured i can go without the quad-DAC maybe on this since both use 32bit audio 192khz or above and get a handset that has all the hardware newest on the market instead hehe.
Lookin forward to hearing how it is...couldnt find reference to the specific DAC used.....not even sure how others are able to haha but would like to see how the V20 and S8 compare there.....the G6 also has 32bit audio but at 192khz FYI
where did you see that? My understanding was that even the NA G6 didn't get the quad DAC that was included with the Asian version.
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where did you see that? My understanding was that even the NA G6 didn't get the quad DAC that was included with the Asian version.
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No sir u misread my post =) the G6 and S8 both have only listed 32bit audio. S8 has 32bit/384khz and G6 has 32bit/192khz. Check gsmarena http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s8-8161.php
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g6-8466.php
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demos are much clearer in sound and quality s8s
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Not quite sure what you mean there..... Are u saying the results given during a demo review won't be the actual given on a retail version? I admit hardware capabilities can be bogged down due to other factors like bloatware etc etc but that and most other issues conflicting can be rectified typically so... If thats what u were getting at above.... Then it's no problem really.
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Not quite sure what you mean there..... Are u saying the results given during a demo review won't be the actual given on a retail version? I admit hardware capabilities can be bogged down due to other factors like bloatware etc etc but that and most other issues conflicting can be rectified typically so... If thats what u were getting at above.... Then it's no problem really.
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I believe he was trying to say that he tried the S8, listened to something pre-installed aka a demo and it sounds better than what he has heard before, presumably on the previous model. I would hope/expect that the sound quality has improved, everything else has so why not.
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No sir u misread my post =) the G6 and S8 both have only listed 32bit audio. S8 has 32bit/384khz and G6 has 32bit/192khz. Check gsmarena http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s8-8161.php
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Sorry, my point was that those could be specs from Asian version of phone
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Sorry, my point was that those could be specs from Asian version of phone
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AHHHH!!!! Well I was WAAAAY off then in my interpretation lol. I did also call LG themselves to verify those parts of the specs and it is listed on Samsungs site that it's 32bit dsd64/128 and does not have it stated it only is on certain handsets or restrictions on countries. Only states dsd playback can be limited depending on format below.
Yeah I had to make sure it's audio quality was exactly as advertised before I ordered the S8... Not a fan of Samsungs phones so if I was to get it it better be packed with specs I wanted enough to override buying my other choices on top lol.
Anything beyond 24 bit/96 kHz is just marketing spec wars and doesn't matter.
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AHHHH!!!! Well I was WAAAAY off then in my interpretation lol. I did also call LG themselves to verify those parts of the specs and it is listed on Samsungs site that it's 32bit dsd64/128 and does not have it stated it only is on certain handsets or restrictions on countries. Only states dsd playback can be limited depending on format below.
Yeah I had to make sure it's audio quality was exactly as advertised before I ordered the S8... Not a fan of Samsungs phones so if I was to get it it better be packed with specs I wanted enough to override buying my other choices on top lol.
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It would be nice if they put out a standard device that had the same specs world wide, rather than us having to decipher which model has what etc. So you're taking the plunge and ordering??
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Anything beyond 24 bit/96 kHz is just marketing spec wars and doesn't matter.
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I have done the research up and down, sideways and backwards plus any other way around when concerning this argument and personally I can tell quite a few telltale differences in audio quality in formats, bit depth, bit rate etc etc and there IS noticeable differences.
The issue is, and reason, this debate is still ongoing is there are soooooo many factors/variables and/or conditions that come into play concerning any audio quality testing. It will impact what anyone finds in their results if they are even able to tell small, subtle variations in sound quality to the more obvious to start....if you have one person who is average and a layman to the technical information overall on audio then it wont make a diff or you have another who is fluent it changes the results substantially....then taking in account the soundbites format origin, how it was converted exactly from origin if it isn't lossless, what hardware/software was used to do so like using Audacity to convert/record/modify vs Soundforge, what computer/OS they used for conversion/modifications and testing with, were there any external DACs used, and audio cable connections used to route music, Headphone/speakers/bluetooth quality, etc etc its nutty....its super detailed, and change one variable in the overall process could effect things more than expected usually IE: reformatting a FLAC to MP3 then to AAC HE.
OH and i forgot that I found changing songs and stuff also will really give you more differences in results its crazy. I dont mean just change from certain genre types like classical or rock soundbites but from specific songs themselves can make a difference alone. I am still fiddling with options, formats and constantly changing songs of all types back and forth and back again while changing audio modifications one at a time....over and over and over and over.....seriously....so yes it does make a difference, it IS marketing BS in there too of course appreciate that level or need to but whether some audio bite is 24bit or 64bit or whatever is important, does make a difference in sound overall quality in the end but just may not be as important or useful depending on whom the audience or consumer is.
Besides....compared to the overblown bull of forever upgrading how many megapixels and such for phones the marketing on audio quality is barely a BLIP.....rarely do they ever put much info out on audio capabilities for those who would like it unlike camera capabilities. Every stupid review on any handset spends 1/4 of that review talking about how good the camera is on that handset, compares it to others WITH photos showing the degrees of differences in each handset, blah blah blah....just so some more narcissistic tards can have the best camera to take another 1000 selfies, pics of what they are eating or drinking at the moment or some other mundane crap they think is so relevant that everyone else HAS to see all the time....none of them know what any of the specs there are for more than the barest of reason but they give every detail though on review cause that sells.
Do these people need such high specs for their endless selfie takes...NOPE....unless you are a hobbyist into photography on whatever level/area or photography by trade then you won't really benefit from having 20 megapixels or apps that modify photos in such detail and so many really, esp if you don't fully understand those details. Its by far the hugest selling point on of any of the spec wars on phones than any other hardware part easily and all to get people to really need that upgrade for more megapixels cause more is better and they need more SELFIES and more megapixels is what the ads/salesmen say will give you that the best quality so the picture of their duckface pose or pic of what they are eating for lunch is clearer, crisper, and more detailed than the next persons on FB lol..and also warrants making handsets more expensive across the board for everyone even if they dont give a monkey a** about that addition....still gotta pay for it.
Don't let anyone talk about audio capabilities though cause that quickly gets little to no input or someone just pooing all over it cause its not important to them or they think its useless....=P.
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It would be nice if they put out a standard device that had the same specs world wide, rather than us having to decipher which model has what etc. So you're taking the plunge and ordering??
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Yup, already pre-ordered the S8.....so im looking forward to see how it performs. I was hesitant to by the LG as well for many factors as well really but i think this time around i made the best choice option overall in handsets.
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there may be differing audio quality between the SD835 and EXYNOS versions. SD variant has Aqstic most prob and the Exynos a home built LUCKY chip that actually out performed the S7 Snapdragon variant.
Now here's the thing, a DAC's sampling prowess isnt the indicator of quality. Its what amp, noise crossover cancellation and tuning is involved. If a DAC can support a Hi-Res sampling rate its all down to how its tuned and engineered into the phone.
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there may be differing audio quality between the SD835 and EXYNOS versions. SD variant has Aqstic most prob and the Exynos a home built LUCKY chip that actually out performed the S7 Snapdragon variant.
Now here's the thing, a DAC's sampling prowess isnt the indicator of quality. Its what amp, noise crossover cancellation and tuning is involved. If a DAC can support a Hi-Res sampling rate its all down to how its tuned and engineered into the phone.
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Yeah that's a whole bunch of variables to be considered that could be a deal breaker but I never can get that information across the board for any device. I never can find info on DACs for different phones like that..... Where did u get your info? I know bits of information about how all that works and to help find out a phones true quality of audio capabilities in the end but nothing complete.
I know that the Exynos version is for whatever reason always outperforming the SD variant but why the US consumers get the loser of the two is beyond me but really effed up.
I can only assume it's due to our regions having some sort of limitation/regulation on handsets capabilities like they do with our Internet.... Many places outside of US have home Internet service 3 or 4 times the speed we get.
Tidal vs spotify and every other music streaming app
Hey guys, after a week of use with the akg ear buds, and Beats solo 3 headphones I was extremely disappointed honestly felt it sounded worse than my s7 active and s5 tbh. Good clarity but terrible eq settings no matter what i tried. Needless to say I was upset for not buying the g6 especially since i own around 10 sets of headphones ranging between 99 and 800 dollars. After reading ever bit of info I could find I just could not figure out what the issue was . Well I have been a paying member of spotify for years and love it, huge fan BUT...... After a lot of research found out that tidal offers hifi audio forget the exact specs but 1600 or 1700 kbps flac. The first note that I played made me literally start laughing. This phone sounds incredible with all my headphones. Its really unbelievably clear for the size of this phone and hardware limitations. As far as,I know it's pretty hard to find dsd audio but for 19.99 you can get tidals hifi, I'm currently using tune free trial. If you haven't I recommend installing it and at least using the free 30 days. Catalogue is not quite as large as others subscriptions but I'm fairly pleased with the audio now. My g6 comes next week unfortunately I haven't put hands on one yet but can't wait to compare the quad dac with the (no one seems to know )s8 dac. I'll post my opinion of it after a few days of use. Again I don't think the issue is the hardware I believe it's just a matter of finding hi resolution audio.
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Hey guys, after a week of use with the akg ear buds, and Beats solo 3 headphones I was extremely disappointed honestly felt it sounded worse than my s7 active and s5 tbh. Good clarity but terrible eq settings no matter what i tried. Needless to say I was upset for not buying the g6 especially since i own around 10 sets of headphones ranging between 99 and 800 dollars. After reading ever bit of info I could find I just could not figure out what the issue was . Well I have been a paying member of spotify for years and love it, huge fan BUT...... After a lot of research found out that tidal offers hifi audio forget the exact specs but 1600 or 1700 kbps flac. The first note that I played made me literally start laughing. This phone sounds incredible with all my headphones. Its really unbelievably clear for the size of this phone and hardware limitations. As far as,I know it's pretty hard to find dsd audio but for 19.99 you can get tidals hifi, I'm currently using tune free trial. If you haven't I recommend installing it and at least using the free 30 days. Catalogue is not quite as large as others subscriptions but I'm fairly pleased with the audio now. My g6 comes next week unfortunately I haven't put hands on one yet but can't wait to compare the quad dac with the (no one seems to know )s8 dac. I'll post my opinion of it after a few days of use. Again I don't think the issue is the hardware I believe it's just a matter of finding hi resolution audio.
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You mean we have to use hires audio like flac to get the most out of it
How about driving heavy headphones ... Can it get loud
Definitely louder
Besides the clear improvement in quality it absolutely gets loud, I was maxing the volume out previously but using hifi I stop at the red on the volume meter. Any louder with my beats would definitely be detrimental to my hearing but I have taken them off and maxed it out. No distortion and ridiculously loud. I should say also that I use my solo3s and all my wireless headphones with the wire plugged in. That along with enabling the uhq setting makes a noticeable difference. If you aren't an audiophile tidal hifi provably isn't worth the extra money. But if you have to have the best audio available that's the best I've found so far.
Great... pls do compare with LG v20 or LG g6 and let us know
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Hey guys, after a week of use with the akg ear buds, and Beats solo 3 headphones I was extremely disappointed honestly felt it sounded worse than my s7 active and s5 tbh. Good clarity but terrible eq settings no matter what i tried. Needless to say I was upset for not buying the g6 especially since i own around 10 sets of headphones ranging between 99 and 800 dollars. After reading ever bit of info I could find I just could not figure out what the issue was . Well I have been a paying member of spotify for years and love it, huge fan BUT...... After a lot of research found out that tidal offers hifi audio forget the exact specs but 1600 or 1700 kbps flac. The first note that I played made me literally start laughing. This phone sounds incredible with all my headphones. Its really unbelievably clear for the size of this phone and hardware limitations. As far as,I know it's pretty hard to find dsd audio but for 19.99 you can get tidals hifi, I'm currently using tune free trial. If you haven't I recommend installing it and at least using the free 30 days. Catalogue is not quite as large as others subscriptions but I'm fairly pleased with the audio now. My g6 comes next week unfortunately I haven't put hands on one yet but can't wait to compare the quad dac with the (no one seems to know )s8 dac. I'll post my opinion of it after a few days of use. Again I don't think the issue is the hardware I believe it's just a matter of finding hi resolution audio.
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im assuming you've imported the Asian G6 variant, as the American version doesnt have the quad DAC right? Or is that just for europe?
Yup, wasn't certain about the U.S. version but I knew for sure the Korean version had it so went with that, kinda wishing I had done the same with my s8 but I was too impatient, that 6gb ram would've been nice to have.