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Best Radio version?

1. What's the best version to use?
2. What's the most current official radio, not leaked... thanks.

4.04
4.04

Is that from the e27 update?
Also wondering why you say 4.04 is better...?
thanks

It depends on your location.
4.04 is the latest however I find 4.03 to be the best. Mileage will vary. Try them both out and see which one works for you

I had a bit of problems with the original, none with 4.03, and none with 4.04.
3G issues are highly overhyped.

Don't bother with the radio.
To the average user, there is absolutely ZERO noticeable difference between radio versions.
Anyone who says otherwise is just experiencing a nice little placebo effect

I'm running 4.03... Does radio affect GPS ?

Paul22000 said:
Don't bother with the radio.
To the average user, there is absolutely ZERO noticeable difference between radio versions.
Anyone who says otherwise is just experiencing a nice little placebo effect
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with my T-Mobile Nexus One, i had the best results with 4.03. with 4.04 i had signal drops more often. since switching to the at&t version i've tried all 3 radios and there's no notable difference. all 3 worked well: getting 4 signal bars and consistent internet speeds averaging 3.2 Mbps/downloads and 1.3 Mbps/uploads. fyi, the at&t version uses the 4.04 radio.

Paul22000 said:
Don't bother with the radio.
To the average user, there is absolutely ZERO noticeable difference between radio versions.
Anyone who says otherwise is just experiencing a nice little placebo effect
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Unless Speed Test is totally bonkers I get 2X faster data connection with 4.03 than I do with 4.04. Reception-wise there is no difference between the two IMO.

Two times the speed suggests there is something is not playiing well with 404 on your installation. Never argue with what works though.

Another vote for 4.03.
Was getting CONSTANT drops after the upgrade

different radios

I have been flashing my Fasc. since I got it and like the phone. My only gripe like most is the lack of radio performace. I was running the EC09 with the 4.1 nameless and had the best radio yet. Does anyone know if I can use EC09 with a stock Froyo 2.2 (ED01) built? thanks
Doc

I am running the EC09 radio with Comm Rom 2.1, which is based on the EDO1 build, and it has been working fine. If you try it with stock, I would suggest having the files to go back to another radio ready in case it doesn't work.

Yes it can, I am using it right now with Stock Froyo.

dpblusea said:
I am running the EC09 radio with Comm Rom 2.1, which is based on the EDO1 build, and it has been working fine. If you try it with stock, I would suggest having the files to go back to another radio ready in case it doesn't work.
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Did you notice if your time-without-signal metric got way better once EC09 radio was installed? I'm seeing a huge improvement in time-without-signal on the full GB leak, but I'm curious if that improvement comes from the radio, or just the base GB software reporting / measuring.

Scrappy1 said:
Did you notice if your time-without-signal metric got way better once EC09 radio was installed? I'm seeing a huge improvement in time-without-signal on the full GB leak, but I'm curious if that improvement comes from the radio, or just the base GB software reporting / measuring.
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It got slightly better. I don't get a good signal at my house anyway, but it is better on EC09 than it was on ED04. I did see my data speeds increase slightly as well.

I read that Samsung Cortex A8 is packaged with the Qualcom Digital Baseband QSC6270 this is supposed to be the same baseband in the droidx but the author was saying that the recption was far superior with the droid typically -86dbm whereas with the fascinate could be 10 or more dbm less(meaning worst). I have noticed a significant increase in reception when other parts of the chip are enabled also, such as GPS and bluetooth.
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[MOD][UPDATE][5/20/12]26.13.04.19 Radio lib-ril/gps .so updater for CM7 based ROMs

FOR CM7 BASED ROMS
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IMPORTANT UPDATE: I have done some research on flashing radio images and found some interesting information. Apparently there are 2 files that pertain to radios in the RUU releases, a radio.img and a rcdata.img. We all have been flashing only the radio.img file but the rcdata.img contains further carrier information that directly relates to information in the build.prop file. I have put together a new 26.13.04.19 radio zip file that contains both the radio.img and the rcdata.img. The .img files were taken directly from the latest T-Mobile RUU release. This new radio/rcdata zip needs to be flashed through bootloader just like you flashed a radio in the past. As usual, you''ll need to rename the zip file to PC10IMG.zip before you reboot into bootloader. Check the MD5 Sum after you download the file to your sdcard to make sure it matches the following:
MD5 Sum: 360EA26286DEC39FC8008B266F470839
DOWNLOAD VISION_RADIO_RCDATA_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19.zip
MIRROR: http://www.mediafire.com/?vdecstne5uuvuxn
With the release of the latest T-Mobile update a new radio was included with the promise of better battery life. The following is from the T-Mobile support website.
On October 17, T-Mobile G2 devices will begin to receive an Over-The-Air (OTA) update to Android 2.3.4 / Software Version 2.16.531.5. The update will roll out in waves over the coming weeks.
The update provides the following improvements.
Improvements:
Google Security Patch
Google Skymap improvements
Battery life improvements
Data connection while roaming domestically
After flashing the new radio taken from the OTA listed above I really didn't notice any real improvements in battery life. After about a week using the new radio I decided to try matching the lib-ril .so files that were included in the OTA with my current installation of CM7. Almost immediately I noticed an improvement in battery life, wifi and data switching and slightly better data speeds over 4G. I have been using the matching files now for about 10 days and can say that I am getting the best battery life from my G2 since I've had it. I've been flashing CM7 nightlies since just about day one along with flashing radios etc and this is a noticeable change. I asked 2 others here in the forums to give matching lib-rils a try to see if they could confirm. Ditamae and Sino8r, who are also running CM7, have reported back to me that they too have noticed performance improvements, most notably in battery life.
From Ditamae: "Things are still looking good over here. The improvements are slight, but noticeable."
From Sino8r: "Okay, seems all is well with new libs. They have shown some promise, imo. Better battery, signal handoffs, pretty much what all we hoped for."
ATTENTION: I am not responsible if you brick your phone or if it starts a fire in your apartment by using this workaround! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
Procedure:
If you are not running the .19 radio, you can get it from the links above. If you need further flashing instructions get them from this thread.
Once you are running the .19 radio, download the updater and flash through recovery. This will update your radio ril and gps .so files.
Download Radio 26.13.04.19 Radio - ril and gps .so updater for CM7 based ROMShttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/17578272/CM7_26.13.04.19radio_ril_gps_so_updater.ziphttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/17578272/CM7_26.13.04.19radio_ril_gps_so_updater.ziphttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/17578272/CM7_26.13.04.19radio_ril_gps_so_updater.zip
MIRROR: http://www.mediafire.com/?i0ibe4mrvuqyxua
While you are in recovery, wipe your cache and dalvick cache and wipe the efs partitions by flashing the Vision EFS partion wipe tool.
Download EFS Partition Wipe Tool
Reboot your device and you're good to go.
NOTE: At first boot, it might take a little longer than usual for you to connect to your local towers since you've wiped your radio data and the efs partitions need to be re-populated with the new data. This also means you'll need to be outside and wait several minutes for a new gps lock as the new data is obtained from the satellites.
Don't forget to hit the thanks button if this works out for you!

Followed all your steps and will keep you posted.

Done as requested and will let you know my experience after a couple of days.

I wanna give this a try and will let you know how it goes. is the efs wipe tool different from the superwipe... i.e. it won't wipe all my data?

yogi2010 said:
I wanna give this a try and will let you know how it goes. is the efs wipe tool different from the superwipe... i.e. it won't wipe all my data?
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The efs wipe will only wipe the radio data. It won't touch your rom or sd card.
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EdKeys said:
The efs wipe will only wipe the radio data. It won't touch your rom or sd card.
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awesome, I figured as much but was just making sure got it all done and will see how it goes.... thanks EdKeys!

I will try this soon, especially if I see many people seeing improvements (it'd be nice to have facts, so to avoid placebo effects).
For those that have tried it: any improvements in GPS performance?

Just did the switch and have immediately noticed improved data speeds in Atlanta, Ga. I will report back in a few days about battery life. Running CM7.1 stable

tsubus said:
I will try this soon, especially if I see many people seeing improvements (it'd be nice to have facts, so to avoid placebo effects).
For those that have tried it: any improvements in GPS performance?
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I didn't notice any change in GPS performance. I'm using your ROM with the updated GPS driver already included in that, which I believe is the same gps.vision.so that was included in the 2.16.531.5 OTA mentioned above.

I have to say I am VERY surprised by the results. I did 3 speedtests before matching rils and 3 after. Results are about 2.5 to 3 times faster in downloads, and about twice in upload. It should be on the same server (according to Speedtest.net app), which makes this great. I will definitely include it in the next release, which at this point might be later today.
edit: a couple more tests brought the download speeds down a little, so it might have been a fluke before, but I still see improvements, just not as big. I will still include it in the ROM, thank you for pointing it out.
edit2: did the new radio roll out with a new gps.vision.so file too? It'd be nice to see if using the new lib gives improvements on gps too.

tsubus said:
I have to say I am VERY surprised by the results. I did 3 speedtests before matching rils and 3 after. Results are about 2.5 to 3 times faster in downloads, and about twice in upload. It should be on the same server (according to Speedtest.net app), which makes this great. I will definitely include it in the next release, which at this point might be later today.
edit: a couple more tests brought the download speeds down a little, so it might have been a fluke before, but I still see improvements, just not as big. I will still include it in the ROM, thank you for pointing it out.
edit2: did the new radio roll out with a new gps.vision.so file too? It'd be nice to see if using the new lib gives improvements on gps too.
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I'm not able to check right now but I believe it is the same version that you are currrently using for this radio in your ROM now....same as the .13 release. I'll try to get a copy of it later on today.
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I'll give it a shot as well. Oddly enough, my completely unscientific testing showed that my WiFi speeds seem to have improved with the new radio, but my "4G" speeds have actually suffered just a tiny bit. And they got *worse* after matching the RILs.
What I did was, with my existing radio (04.12), I ran the Speedtest.net app 3 times each for WiFi and "4G". Then, I installed the 04.19 radio, and did it again. Then once more after matching the RILs.
However, my data speeds have never been great here at the office, so I will do some more testing later, and see what I come up with.
Battery life is a little more subjective, depending on what I am doing with my phone, but I'll see what kind of "feel" I get after running it for a few days.

This fix my gps problems on miui and my signal, battery life, 4g more stable..
Before this i got 3 days try to find out how fix my gps, is was always stay searching for gps.
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My Touch 3g
Iphone 3G
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dargocitfer said:
I'll give it a shot as well. Oddly enough, my completely unscientific testing showed that my WiFi speeds seem to have improved with the new radio, but my "4G" speeds have actually suffered just a tiny bit. And they got *worse* after matching the RILs.
What I did was, with my existing radio (04.12), I ran the Speedtest.net app 3 times each for WiFi and "4G". Then, I installed the 04.19 radio, and did it again. Then once more after matching the RILs.
However, my data speeds have never been great here at the office, so I will do some more testing later, and see what I come up with.
Battery life is a little more subjective, depending on what I am doing with my phone, but I'll see what kind of "feel" I get after running it for a few days.
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Give it a few more days before deciding any real conclusions. Its working for pretty much evryone. Pretty cool find, Ed! Thanks again!

dargocitfer said:
I'll give it a shot as well. Oddly enough, my completely unscientific testing showed that my WiFi speeds seem to have improved with the new radio, but my "4G" speeds have actually suffered just a tiny bit. And they got *worse* after matching the RILs.
What I did was, with my existing radio (04.12), I ran the Speedtest.net app 3 times each for WiFi and "4G". Then, I installed the 04.19 radio, and did it again. Then once more after matching the RILs.
However, my data speeds have never been great here at the office, so I will do some more testing later, and see what I come up with.
Battery life is a little more subjective, depending on what I am doing with my phone, but I'll see what kind of "feel" I get after running it for a few days.
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There is a link to the EFS wipe tool in the OP. Be sure to flash that after changing radios and/or rils. Just a suggestion in case you didn't do that yet.

still early days but seem to be noticing a slight improvement with my data connection (more h than 3g) and general reception, one area where there is no change is battery life(sceptical that radios affect batteries that much)
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I'm happy word is getting out... I switched back to the .30 libs for a small stretch and then flashed tsubus' update tonight (along with matching rils for .19... as you know he's matching them for radio .19 by default now, based on your testing), and this time the benefits appear even more distinct. Definitely getting slightly better download speeds and signal alternates faster and more efficiently between Wifi and H/3G. I'm going to check GPS with navigation tomorrow on a long drive. I'll report back, but I'm fairly certain it'll work just fine. I'll wipe battery stats tomorrow and monitor battery... but I kinda already know it's gonna be good. Really glad you brought this to my attention, Ed. Thank you.

Ditamae said:
I'm happy word is getting out... I switched back to the .30 libs for a small stretch and then flashed tsubus' update tonight (along with matching rils for .19... as you know he's matching them for radio .19 by default now, based on your testing), and this time the benefits appear even more distinct. Definitely getting slightly better download speeds and signal alternates faster and more efficiently between Wifi and H/3G. I'm going to check GPS with navigation tomorrow on a long drive. I'll report back, but I'm fairly certain it'll work just fine. I'll wipe battery stats tomorrow and monitor battery... but I kinda already know it's gonna be good. Really glad you brought this to my attention, Ed. Thank you.
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I agree... I never had any real gps issues with the exception of first lock in a few weeks without use. I ended up getting GPS Status (free app from market) and reseting gps data and redownloading it. Within 30 seconds, gps satellites are found and all is well. On rare occasions, I would get the notorious loss of signal and would have to toggle gps on or off and/or use good old GPS Status. Those were really minor compared to the horror stories I hear from some of our other HTC Vision users. I finally tried tsubus's idea of using the htc gps.so file and havent had any drop offs. There is still that first lock delay after a new flash or not using it for several weeks but thats normal and nothing GPS Status cant fix in mere seconds. I highly recommend using the gps lib file and gps status for those with gps issues. The radio lib files found here also help with battery life (not huge but a noticable difference) and call quality plus tower to cell handoffs. I was a cell tech (not the guy in the call center lol) for 5 years and am a pc tech and have been for 10 so I usually can tell when something works and is not a placebo effect
Also, Ed and Ditamae are two of the best guys we have here in the G2 section. Please, listen to them. You can trust about 99% of what they say... The other 1% is for their comedic effect

EdKeys said:
There is a link to the EFS wipe tool in the OP. Be sure to flash that after changing radios and/or rils. Just a suggestion in case you didn't do that yet.
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Yes, I followed your suggestions exactly. I haven't had any issues with the GPS (My sense of direction *sucks*, so my GPS gets used quite a bit... ), and I'm still testing the battery life. (Wiped battery stats yesterday and drained the battery to 0%, charged it overnight, and am testing it now.) We'll see how it turns out for me.

After doing these changes I was able to get almost 13 hours of battery life, which is about 5 more hours than I used to get. This is with medium to heavy usage, so I'm happy with this. I'll report back after this bakes for another week or so.

Rom with good wifi reception?

Using virtuous affinity at the moment and not liking the wifi speed at all (2 signals at a distance of 6 meters?)
I remember using one of the MIUI rom or sense rom which gave really good wifi connection, don't know what's the issue but my sister's I9001 is picking wifi at great distance and not mine + the speed is really slow...
DO you guys have a rom in mind which i can flash for better wifi connection?
EDIT: also some suggestions about runny vs bliss would be very appreciatd since i'm not a big sense user..

You can try RCMix3D, I'm always having 4 bars when near my router and a little less when moving away.

Maybe there is something wrong with the WiFi antenna.
The antenna is located in the cover of the battery.
Take out the cover and clean the metal contacts.
Put it back and see if it made a difference.
It's the 1st thing you should try.
If this doesn't help, check for a radio that matches your model, see also if a matching RIL is needed.

This most probably is a radio issue...flash the correct radio based on your current RIL..

Also think it's a radio problem. Flash the correct one and RILs and averything will be ok.
And for example, if you flash something like Virtuous Quattro or IceColdSandwitch, you may get low bars on the indicator, but it doesn't mean the signal is bad.

I'm running ARHD 6.3.2 with 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M Radio at the moment.I always have 3 to 4 bars wifi connection even when im in the room next to my office.
The Rom runs smooth and stable without having any problems at all.

Been using rcmix3d for the last couple of months and wifi reception has always been strong
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Dont be fooled by the WIFI indicator bars, As i understand it AOSP based ROMs use a different algorithim to display the strength which results in an apparent lowering of the signal strength as long as it connects and works i play little or no attemtion to the bars.

Yes I would say it's a radio issue, unless it's posted as a bug in the ROM by other users. check the forums for the rom, otherwise, flash new radio WITH CORRESPONDING RIL!!

Rcmix 3d runny v4.0
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I agree with @ghostofcain, if your wifi is working fine, don't bother too much about the numbers of bars.

I had my best wifi experience with the AndroidRevolution HD 7.0.0 Rom.
maybe you really should bother about your Radio..
using the 12.28b.60.140eP_26.02.03.15_M3 myself.
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best way to see the signal strength is this:
*#*#4636#*#*
and then wifi information -> wifi status
there you've got the signal strength in dB wich is a bit more comparable than "i've got only two bars".

good tip using this test-number;
is the RSSI value the wifi signal strength ?

Yes. RSSI stands for Received Signal Strength Indication. Wikipedia has an article about it if you want more information.

4.3 modem audio quality

Did anyone with .83 modem find that had alot of noise and losses in call?i had this with the leak version too..but with 4.3 after flashing 4.2.2 still with .83 no problems..or it was just the call i just made??its late so i can't make another...but im asking if others had noise too...

pikachukaki said:
Did anyone with .83 modem find that had alot of noise and losses in call?i had this with the leak version too..but with 4.3 after flashing 4.2.2 still with .83 no problems..or it was just the call i just made??its late so i can't make another...but im asking if others had noise too...
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I used .83 for couple days, haven't noticed any noise. Now I'm on .84 and haven't noticed any noise problems either. I think mic volume is slightly better on .83 and .84 than on previous versions, but I did not run exact tests, just asked people if they hear me better then before.

andrey.tch said:
I used .83 for couple days, haven't noticed any noise. Now I'm on .84 and haven't noticed any noise problems either. I think mic volume is slightly better on .83 and .84 than on previous versions, but I did not run exact tests, just asked people if they hear me better then before.
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it was just the one call i made..(i hope) .84??I didnt see that the official release has an updated modem!!

pikachukaki,
Well, I shall say .84 feels about the same (may be a bit snappier), but this is very subjective, I only can attribute to browsing on Wi-Fi, not heavy video or massive downloads. Since you are more proficient with these things, may I ask a question -- when I am burning updated ROM ( CM nighties through CyanDelta https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cyandelta&hl=en, just 3-10 megs update per nightly), do I need to reapply radio every time, or one time is good enough - nobody overrides it in ROMs anyway?
Thank you very much,
@ch
a bit OT: Do you know what this "modem" code is ? Whole firmware (including linux and stuff) for wireless modems and routers can be fit into 4 megs. These are like 50 megs images. Are they storing there, some funky tables for every cellular provider and their towers in the world?