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Performance Test of Different Radio Versions[New Results by solidmac]

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Huge thanks to solidmac for contributing his/her test result:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub...NHdWxMbWc&hl=en&single=true&gid=0&output=html
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Hi everyone.
There are currently three different versions of radios available for Nexus One Froyo roms.
I conducted a test on all these 3 versions: 4.06, 5.08 and 5.12, and I would like to share my test result.
Link to test result:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah8PsMa_NqfedERnUmtBWWdJc19OR3lGcmhvR2psMHc&hl=en
(All using unit kBps, kilo-byte-per-second)
My test strategy:
Test both 2G and H data speed.
Phone is put very close to window, no finger is touching on it during each test.
Results provided by SpeedTest.net application.
Default DNS server is used.
Tests were conducted consecutively.
Very poor results (2 occurrences,once with 508 H, once with 512 2G) are dropped.
About Phone:
Nexus One, purchased on 2nd March
CM6 110022010-nightly
Kernel: 2.6.35-7 925mV CFS AVS AIX 720p-Monks-103010
Environmental information:
Cheltenham, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia,
Cloudy, light wind, no rain,
Full bars signal during testing,
Yes Optus mobile company, APN selected to Yes Internet.

Thank you. I was surprised by these results, but its good to finally se some sort of comparison between the radios...

great data!

thx for the data and now i'm kinda regret flashing 5.12 lol

Interesting....nice to see the comparison stats! thanks

Flashing 512 isn't all that bad it has much better ping results meaning it reaches the website first than all the other ones now the only down side is the marginal dl speed
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That seems to confirm the results I got from switching the radios around.
I'm sticking with the latest though as it's not clear what other changes have been made, but I ten to believe that newer should be better

Base on the test i wonder if the newer radio only mean for the korean network.
Anyway any data for wifi connection?
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kuntau said:
Base on the test i wonder if the newer radio only mean for the korean network.
Anyway any data for wifi connection?
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I actually thought about testing wifi performance
but that probably won't reflex real radio performance since wifi performance is very constant for me no matter which version of radio i use.
also although 4.06 radio gives sometimes better performance, but I feel 5.12 has significant lower power consumption compare to 4.06

these radios show a difference under bad conditions.. OP if you could run an other test in a bad area or create a bad area ( putting the phone in a weak signal area 2-3 bars ) should show clearer results

Great Works, and now I know how to select radio.
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In terms of the ping results you HAVE to omit those 999s, thats not an actual reading of 999, thats saying the reading was 999+ which is not a finite number, so you cant take an average of it.
You've also got such wild spikes of 80% on the H download speeds that, not to put a downer on things, but the results are statistically worthless. You'd have to do a way bigger sample than that.

Since flashing 5.12, I've hardly ever dropped below 3G. I don't really care if it's faster/slower than the others, what matters to me is consistency...
I guess the point I'm making is that you may also wish to look at large packets of data (say 100mb) over a longer duration, and see those kind of results, also?
Of course, network, network loading, location, weather, etc all throw in variables that you can't account for. Only many statistical samples over time can help smooth out the anomolies.
Perhaps my nuclear engineering side is showing?
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danger-rat said:
Since flashing 5.12, I've hardly ever dropped below 3G. I don't really care if it's faster/slower than the others, what matters to me is consistency...
I guess the point I'm making is that you may also wish to look at large packets of data (say 100mb) over a longer duration, and see those kind of results, also?
Of course, network, network loading, location, weather, etc all throw in variables that you can't account for. Only many statistical samples over time can help smooth out the anomolies.
Perhaps my nuclear engineering side is showing?
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Haha, well you ARE correct though, network is inconsistent, especially when there are lots of people using data on the same antenna as you...causes a saturation in the spectrum and slows down speeds...
But I second that...do another test with bigger files (if you ever do another test )

thanks everyone
next time when I get large amount of mobile data I'll test again.

I went ahead and did one today hope it provides enough information if you guys have any questions please ask i will try to provide an answer.
Nexus one 5.08 vs 5.12

Nice chart, decided to stick with 4.06_07
Very brave of you to try all the radios

4xx.x version have bad ping scores compared to the newer versions. So pages queue up faster and search and voice to text are analyzed faster. Also the newer radios are more stable with their speeds especially in the wifi and 3g.

solidmac said:
I went ahead and did one today hope it provides enough information if you guys have any questions please ask i will try to provide an answer.
Nexus one 5.08 vs 5.12
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Hey mate
thanks for your test result
but i was wondering, why do you have test result on 5.09 radio.. did it work on Nexus One? I thought 509 radio was for Desire

I think that was just a typo. Should be 5.08

Radio, Rom, Kernel, Theme, Etc.

It's been a minute since I've used my dinc because I have been using my Thunderbolt almost exclusively.. soooo I was wondering what you guys are using or think is the best combo. Radio I'm the most curious about!
Love being back on the dinc due to its nice and small size!!
Thanks

Omgb rom and incredikernel
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My general advice; go with older stuff. With the exception of a few ROMs, the current crop appears to be some seriously jury rigged work that just barely works. I've yet to install ANY AOSP ROM that didn't end up self-destructing or failing from the first boot. I think WildStang ROMs are probably the best pieces of work currently out if stability and functionality are features that impress you.

Dude try joelz runnymede 3D Rom with radio 08.08 and tinys gingersense kernel. I'm loving this and think u will too.
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Dude try joelz runnymede 3D Rom with radio 08.08 and tinys gingersense kernel. I'm loving this and think u will too.
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All the Sense 3.0 ROMs run like molasses in January; SLOW as hell! 3D sure as hell isn't doing it any favors.

I'm using CM7 latest nightly, radio 11.x and tiny's incredikernel (10/8)
CM7 = It's quick, easily customization with android kitchen and with LP+ and custom dock it looks pretty snazzy
radio 11x = After trying all the radio's I find this one the most battery efficient, the GPS locks quick and data rate is excellent
( Note that differences between radio's are typically very small, I do believe this one is big enough to have me keep using it. Decide for yourself, everyone seems to have their own opinion on which is best )
tiny's incredikenel (10/8) = I actually just downloaded this one so not much of a review, but the quick charge and also the quick charge USB are big helps, not to mention custom voltages if you want to save a little bit more battery

POQbum said:
I'm using CM7 latest nightly, radio 11.x and tiny's incredikernel (10/8)
CM7 = It's quick, easily customization with android kitchen and with LP+ and custom dock it looks pretty snazzy
radio 11x = After trying all the radio's I find this one the most battery efficient, the GPS locks quick and data rate is excellent
( Note that differences between radio's are typically very small, I do believe this one is big enough to have me keep using it. Decide for yourself, everyone seems to have their own opinion on which is best )
tiny's incredikenel (10/8) = I actually just downloaded this one so not much of a review, but the quick charge and also the quick charge USB are big helps, not to mention custom voltages if you want to save a little bit more battery
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This radio?
2.15.00.11.19
If not could you give me the full name
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Yes, that is the specific radio.

I have installed cm7.1 update and have tried every fix/ patch I can find in these forums to correct this horrible radio problem...I can't seem to get over two bars at any given spot. I have tried glazing new kernals, prl, radio, etc...what is the best combination to run cm7.1...any help with this would greatly. Be appreciated....thanks in advance....oh ya I was having problems with wireless tethering. Also but was able to fix that with placing a tether folder in root that was missing
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oACE10o said:
I have installed cm7.1 update and have tried every fix/ patch I can find in these forums to correct this horrible radio problem...I can't seem to get over two bars at any given spot. I have tried glazing new kernals, prl, radio, etc...what is the best combination to run cm7.1...any help with this would greatly. Be appreciated....thanks in advance....oh ya I was having problems with wireless tethering. Also but was able to fix that with placing a tether folder in root that was missing
sent from my Narly turbocharged EVO running CM7.1 with 22 lbs. of boost
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The sense roms' signal bars are a little more generous than aosp. go to settings about phone and status and look at the dBm's for an accurate reading of signal strength.
On cm7 I usually stay between one and two bars, whereas on sense I would read up to four in the same areas, with the same dBm reading (no difference in actual signal strength).

I'm sitting at -94 to -97 dbm and 0asu....is that about normal?....I switched to a savage kernal the other day which seems to be helping other issues but radio is still an issue ...thanks for your help
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what i'm trying to get across is that you don't have a radio issue. The same dBm will show more bars on a sense ROM than an aosp one.
If you'd like, flash a sense ROM and an aosp one. Then take an average in the same area over a period of time of what you're dBm's are. You shouldn't see much of a difference because roms have nothing to do with signal strength.
Edit: there us no 'normal' dBm number because there are so many variables to signal strength (distance from tower, humidity, elevation etc.). If you start to drop calls then you have a problem, if not, you're fine.

Gotcha....thanks for the insight!!!
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oACE10o said:
I'm sitting at -94 to -97 dbm and 0asu....is that about normal?....I switched to a savage kernal the other day which seems to be helping other issues but radio is still an issue ...thanks for your help
sent from my Narly turbocharged EVO running CM7.1 with 22 lbs. of boost
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Yeah you're not going to drop a call or get slow data from that, it is rather low though but nothing to worry about. Once it goes past 100 you should start to worry but again it'd still have to be significantly lower for all the bad stuff to start happening.
Besides all that, what makes you think this is a radio problem instead of just not-so-great coverage?

Just had some issues with wifi, calls, 3g/4g coverage , market connection( even on wifi)
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[Q] wifi signal not strong cm7

anyone having issues with their wifi signal not being strong even if you are close to router?
not that big of an issue but it would be great to get it running up to par since i had better signals running the stock froyo.

might be that your internal wifi card got messed up happened to me on the iphone 3gs.

Works awesome for me.
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logicmarselis said:
anyone having issues with their wifi signal not being strong even if you are close to router?
not that big of an issue but it would be great to get it running up to par since i had better signals running the stock froyo.
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I noticed it too, its one of the reasons I don't use cm7. I have to use wifi calling in my room and the signals sketchy.. its good enough to pick up on sense roms but the signal was rarely strong enough to connect on cm7. Maybe try a different kernel? MiUI is cm7 based and I always got good wifi with tdj's kernel, so maybe you wanna give it a shot.
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No wifi problems here...

Diff Roms Give Diff Signal Strength??

Is this true or not? Ive been jumping from Swagged out, MIUI, to IC7 and it seems diff roms give diff signal strength...In one area where I hardly ever could even get 1X signal with the IC7 Rom I actually had a 1X signal...???

Aosp shows true signal strength. For example 2 bars on a aosp rom could show up as full bars on a sense rom
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is that also true for WIFI?
I can attest to the fact that I too get better signal on Sense Roms then on ASOP roms...
However...have been testing evodeck's ICS (ASOP) rom...and I am getting some great signal that rival gingerbread's signal....so maybe it's not so much a sense vs ASOP problem with gingerbread...
just a thought
what I get from my laptop on evodeck ICS using wireless tether

True, if ur looking for sense base...ice cream sense v1.1 3g/4g is amazing...right along with everything else
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Guys im not talking about how many bars it shows or any of that...Im saying when I was on one ROM I got ZERO signal (no service) but in that SAME area with a different ROM I got 1X and Even 3g?! Is that possible that diff ROM can give you a signal while another might not in a specific area????

evo4gnoob said:
Aosp shows true signal strength. For example 2 bars on a aosp rom could show up as full bars on a sense rom
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Actually, AOSP Shows Data, Sense shows Signal

How many bars it has doesn't necessarily show how strong of a signal you are getting. Some ROMs take in to account the signal to noise ratio, signal strength, etc. so there will be some differences there.

dell streak 5 wifi range

I had nexus one which had a pretty good wifi range.. I could access my home network router from pretty far away.. now i am using Dell streak 5 within same home network and I have found that it's wifi range is a lot less than nexus one... why does it happen? any idea? Can we boost wifi range of dell streak 5?

Streak 5 has a wide wifi range especially with MIUI ROMs.
Flash a MIUI ROM and try again,you will see that it has a perfect wifi range.

really let me check it with MIUI .23 version

Please post back if you see a difference using MIUI rom, i'm also interested

i flashed with MIUI .20 version ROM, i am sorry i did not find any difference

To save younall some time.... there's pretty much nothing can be done about the Streaks short wifi range
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sinan33 said:
Streak 5 has a wide wifi range especially with MIUI ROMs.
Flash a MIUI ROM and try again,you will see that it has a perfect wifi range.
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what inside those MIUI that make diff wifi range?
please tell me if found anything because i still cant get the sign

ivantastic said:
what inside those MIUI that make diff wifi range?
please tell me if found anything because i still cant get the sign
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I have tested stock roms and the other custom roms including cm7; all of the roms have the same wifi range at the same place; they can't find the wifi signal or they find weak signal but at the same place especially MIUI 2.2.17 and 2.3.16 find double strength wifi signal.

sinan33 said:
I have tested stock roms and the other custom roms including cm7; all of the roms have the same wifi range at the same place; they can't find the wifi signal or they find weak signal but at the same place especially MIUI 2.2.17 and 2.3.16 find double strength wifi signal.
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yeah it's your exp.
i want to know what exactly inside MIUI 2.2.17 and 2.3.16 that made the signal stronger? any mod or script maybe?
so there's a chance for me to use some tweak in mine

ivantastic said:
it's your exp.
i want to know what exactly inside MIUI 2.2.17 and 2.3.16 that made the signal stronger? any mod or script maybe?
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Maybe...But i didn't examine this.

Put a bigger aerial on your router, or use a extender
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i'm suffering from the same here, very low wifi range