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Best Radio version?

1. What's the best version to use?
2. What's the most current official radio, not leaked... thanks.

4.04
4.04

Is that from the e27 update?
Also wondering why you say 4.04 is better...?
thanks

It depends on your location.
4.04 is the latest however I find 4.03 to be the best. Mileage will vary. Try them both out and see which one works for you

I had a bit of problems with the original, none with 4.03, and none with 4.04.
3G issues are highly overhyped.

Don't bother with the radio.
To the average user, there is absolutely ZERO noticeable difference between radio versions.
Anyone who says otherwise is just experiencing a nice little placebo effect

I'm running 4.03... Does radio affect GPS ?

Paul22000 said:
Don't bother with the radio.
To the average user, there is absolutely ZERO noticeable difference between radio versions.
Anyone who says otherwise is just experiencing a nice little placebo effect
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with my T-Mobile Nexus One, i had the best results with 4.03. with 4.04 i had signal drops more often. since switching to the at&t version i've tried all 3 radios and there's no notable difference. all 3 worked well: getting 4 signal bars and consistent internet speeds averaging 3.2 Mbps/downloads and 1.3 Mbps/uploads. fyi, the at&t version uses the 4.04 radio.

Paul22000 said:
Don't bother with the radio.
To the average user, there is absolutely ZERO noticeable difference between radio versions.
Anyone who says otherwise is just experiencing a nice little placebo effect
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Unless Speed Test is totally bonkers I get 2X faster data connection with 4.03 than I do with 4.04. Reception-wise there is no difference between the two IMO.

Two times the speed suggests there is something is not playiing well with 404 on your installation. Never argue with what works though.

Another vote for 4.03.
Was getting CONSTANT drops after the upgrade

Please help me choose a ROM.

Well, it's been 3 weeks since I bricked my phone. Mine was 1 of those that had no recovery mode so I had to send it in to get repaired. As I live abroad, the turn around time was a very LONG 3 weeks. Anyway, browsing the development section I see a lot of the devs have gone into over drive. There are SO MANY Rom's to choose from that frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed at which to choose.
Bionix Final
Bionix Fusion 1.1
Froyo JPA Macnut
Froyo JPO Axura
AOSPish 1.4
MasterRom Final
Then there are all the kernels as well as the zmod4 mod. I mean wtf! lol!!
I was running Bionix 1.7 with Voodoo and it was unbelievably smooth and fast. Now I just don't even know where to start.
In your opinions , what combo would be the fastest, most stable, smoothest and closest one of all of those to Bionix 1.7 OC w/voodoo?

Wow, this is such a loaded question since the answer is always going to be one of opinion. But, since I have one of those, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth.
My phone was also bricked by the OTA. However, I was able to use ODIN to flash back to stock. Knowing I could do this gave me the confidence to try the Bionix 1.x versions (pre Final). When Fusion came out, I went to it and am very happy that I did. In my opinion, it is what Samsung should have release in the first place. (Samsung should really consider engaging this team - or other developers who are spending a lot of time tweaking the ROMs - as consultants on their future releases). So, to answer your question:
* They (both flavors of Bionix) are very stable
* Doesn't require a lag fix.
So, I'm pretty happy. The main difference (as I understand it) between Bionix Final and Fusion is whether you have all of the Samsung stuff included. Fusion doesn't include Touchwiz. I'm a Launcher Pro person, so Fusion is a better choice for me.
Now, regarding the Froyo builds. Depends on what you want to do with your phone. I view those builds as "bleeding edge." So, I want them to be around a little longer before I go that route. But that's just me.
Good luck.

It all depends on your personal preference.
If you are afraid to brick your new replacement and wait another 3 weeks I'd suggest going with Bionix Final stock kernel option, if you feel adventurous go with Bionix Fusion with non-stock kernel. I would, personally, wait for a stable Froyo ROM, current ROM's lack GPS drivers due to unavailability of the source from Samsung, but as soon as an official leak shows up or OTA roll out, I am pretty sure there will be a stable Froyo builds to choose from.
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Fusion JAC kernel, it smooths the phone to a degree I don't even see what stock OTA Froyo could bring to the table except Adobe Flash support. My understanding in the delays associated with Froyo release is the JIT (just in time compiler) hasn't been optimized for Hummingbird CPU, and Samsung is working on the optimization.

I recommend Bionix Fusion 1.1 with Project Core kernal 1Ghz. Its very stable, very fast and smooth and good battery life. There is also a Project Core 1.2 Ghz kernel but that one ran my cpu kinda hot with continuous use and I flashed down to the 1Ghz kernel. Not to mention Team Whiskey has put a lot of effort into making this rom as usable as possible. Far as that goes, every rom development team on here has lol. Thats my recommendation though.

That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.

Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/ project core v1 @ 1.2 if your phone can handle it. I have flashed just about every rom that has been released including the froyo roms and to me, this is by far the best rom / kernel combo.

joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.

joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.

I've had great performance with Bionix Fusion using the Core v1 kernal (over clocked to 1.2). I threw the OCLF on top of it, but everything already ran great without it.
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Master™ said:
Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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zephiK said:
JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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Not efficiently. And yeah so your advice is a ROM with no GPS and data difficulties on a more than capable device? Dude, what are YOU talking about?
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I've been running bionix fusion with project core v1 @1.2 and it's pretty good, however I had a random reboot so I might go down to the 1ghz, we'll see.

joe.kerwin said:
Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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I have to agree/disagree with you. Even though 2.2 ROMs are ports, they are still very very good. And if you can live w/o the GPS.. Well, go with one of them
If you can't live w/o a GPS, then go with Master Rom or Bionix Fusion

Fusion with the Core kernel is awesome for me. 1.2GHz without increased voltage is nice. This is my first android device and I really like Launcher Pro.
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joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing).
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Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.

Kubernetes said:
You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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I've used it, it's pointless to argue. We're talking about milliseconds here. If you reopen and close a random app 10x. Each of our setups would hesitate on a few of them. I'm satisfied with speed on this thing. I'm more focused on new features. And your opinion is wrong, the gps and apparently data is not stable at all or at all times. Gps would be a component of the rom, which in turn makes the rom experimental. Its just made well enough to use daily.
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Gentlemen, thanks for all of the replies. It's very much appreciated.
I am going to switch between a Froyo version and Bionix Fusion. I have absolutely no use for GPS where I'm located, never even used it once. So I'm going to give Froyo a try to see what it's like. Then in all honesty, unless it's unbelievable... I see myself going to Bionix Fusion as it's the most recommended here.
No matter which I eventually end up with, I think I'll be keeping it at 1Ghz. No OC for me until I run some serious tests. My OCing experience with computers tells me that OCing a unit without any additional cooling and having it sealed in a casing that must be close to as warm as hell, is a seriously bad idea. Even without extra juice, I can only see more harm coming from that than any actual real world benefits. But I'll know for sure after I see what the temp variations are like. (Anyone care to share their experience with that?)
Again, thank you all for the suggestions.

Why is there no love for AOSPish 1.4? Lol I really love that rom with JACS oc/uv kernel. Its an awesome rom if u want to go for a more stock android look. Either way u cant really go wrong with any of these roms. Developers are bustin their butts to constantly improve them. I think u should just try a few out and see what works best for u! Good luck
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Hmmmmmmm Roms
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that

oka1 said:
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Very well said and great analogy. Don't forget there are tons of people who want a Ferrari or Lambo just for the wow factor while in traffic. Most custom roms give you that wow compared to stock.

why is wifi reception better on stock froyo?

Something I noticed since using stock froyo is that the wifi reception is significantly better than say.. well, the only other rom I've been using is Cyanogen Mod, whether its the nightlies or RC or official release.. Just curious to know what causes that.
Cheers

Its the drivers for Wifi that are used in Froyo Rom are better.
The one's used in 2.1 were "buggy"

zabaknilesh said:
Its the drivers for Wifi that are used in Froyo Rom are better.
The one's used in 2.1 were "buggy"
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Ohh ok. Yeah, I've always wondered what it was.. I mean if you stick a laptop in my room its got 100% reception no matter where you are in my room where as the Cyanogen Mod has poor to low reception on average and the stock froyo has high to full reception. I mean its a big difference.. do you think they will put the better drivers in Cyanogen Mod?

The drivers in stock sense ROMs are HTC proprietary as far as I know, like the FM radio or flash player implementation. That's why the difference
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Best Kernel's for G2?

Currently using CM7 nightly build 186 with stock kernel. Had umaros kernel but it gave me issues so I reinstalled 186 and restored apps with data using TB pro. Looking for an efficient kernel which gives good battery life and excellent performance/ doesn't make my phone overheat :/

So you're saying that you're having bad performance, battery, and heat problems with the stock CM7 kernel? That doesn't sound right. I think you may be having some other issues. What are you overclocking to? are you using the built in CMSettings CPU settings or a different app (SetCPU)? What governor are you using?
I would definitely recommend the stock CM7 kernel. Its a fantastic well rounded kernel that is guaranteed to work perfect with the software.

I agree - you should really use the CM7 kernel it works quiet brilliant.
IMHO all other kernels are not especially made for CM7...

I'm running Pershoots kernel with CM7 and I have it overclocked to 1.5 Ghz. My phone runs great and I'd say the battery lasts pretty much the same amount as it did when I was on stock. Of course when your gaming and stuff and actually using all those gigahertz then your battery life goes down the crapper.
Interestingly enough ... I haven't noticed the phone getting as hot as it used to when I did play games on it ... weird. You'd think overclocking it would cause it to warm it considerably.

yea I'm curious too. I'm running the stock OTA 2.3.4 pre rooted rom and everything works great, but I was wondering if I can improve wifi range or anything else?

killj0y said:
yea I'm curious too. I'm running the stock OTA 2.3.4 pre rooted rom and everything works great, but I was wondering if I can improve wifi range or anything else?
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No custom kernels for that. And if you were on a different ROM, custom kernels will help with battery or performance (they claim), but not really things like wifi signal.

Yea just had a scary moment when I flashed my radio lol. I know there is no working substitute kernal for the stock ota ...yet! But I was wondering what about g-lite, ayone try it? How close is it to the stock ota?
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Yea just had a scary moment when I flashed my radio lol. I know there is no working substitute kernal for the stock ota ...yet! But I was wondering what about g-lite, anyone try it? How close is it to the stock ota?
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killj0y said:
Yea just had a scary moment when I flashed my radio lol. I know there is no working substitute kernal for the stock ota ...yet! But I was wondering what about g-lite, ayone try it? How close is it to the stock ota?
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CM7 and G-lite are pretty close. Considering that the G2 OTA is close to stock AOSP, and these ROMs are made from AOSP they're going to be pretty close...
Why not flash them and try them? You can always go back to a nandroid backup of your stock rooted ROM.

I said that the stock kernel is good, the UmarosKernel drained my battery.

Radio, Rom, Kernel, Theme, Etc.

It's been a minute since I've used my dinc because I have been using my Thunderbolt almost exclusively.. soooo I was wondering what you guys are using or think is the best combo. Radio I'm the most curious about!
Love being back on the dinc due to its nice and small size!!
Thanks

Omgb rom and incredikernel
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My general advice; go with older stuff. With the exception of a few ROMs, the current crop appears to be some seriously jury rigged work that just barely works. I've yet to install ANY AOSP ROM that didn't end up self-destructing or failing from the first boot. I think WildStang ROMs are probably the best pieces of work currently out if stability and functionality are features that impress you.

Dude try joelz runnymede 3D Rom with radio 08.08 and tinys gingersense kernel. I'm loving this and think u will too.
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Dude try joelz runnymede 3D Rom with radio 08.08 and tinys gingersense kernel. I'm loving this and think u will too.
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All the Sense 3.0 ROMs run like molasses in January; SLOW as hell! 3D sure as hell isn't doing it any favors.

I'm using CM7 latest nightly, radio 11.x and tiny's incredikernel (10/8)
CM7 = It's quick, easily customization with android kitchen and with LP+ and custom dock it looks pretty snazzy
radio 11x = After trying all the radio's I find this one the most battery efficient, the GPS locks quick and data rate is excellent
( Note that differences between radio's are typically very small, I do believe this one is big enough to have me keep using it. Decide for yourself, everyone seems to have their own opinion on which is best )
tiny's incredikenel (10/8) = I actually just downloaded this one so not much of a review, but the quick charge and also the quick charge USB are big helps, not to mention custom voltages if you want to save a little bit more battery

POQbum said:
I'm using CM7 latest nightly, radio 11.x and tiny's incredikernel (10/8)
CM7 = It's quick, easily customization with android kitchen and with LP+ and custom dock it looks pretty snazzy
radio 11x = After trying all the radio's I find this one the most battery efficient, the GPS locks quick and data rate is excellent
( Note that differences between radio's are typically very small, I do believe this one is big enough to have me keep using it. Decide for yourself, everyone seems to have their own opinion on which is best )
tiny's incredikenel (10/8) = I actually just downloaded this one so not much of a review, but the quick charge and also the quick charge USB are big helps, not to mention custom voltages if you want to save a little bit more battery
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This radio?
2.15.00.11.19
If not could you give me the full name
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Yes, that is the specific radio.

I have installed cm7.1 update and have tried every fix/ patch I can find in these forums to correct this horrible radio problem...I can't seem to get over two bars at any given spot. I have tried glazing new kernals, prl, radio, etc...what is the best combination to run cm7.1...any help with this would greatly. Be appreciated....thanks in advance....oh ya I was having problems with wireless tethering. Also but was able to fix that with placing a tether folder in root that was missing
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oACE10o said:
I have installed cm7.1 update and have tried every fix/ patch I can find in these forums to correct this horrible radio problem...I can't seem to get over two bars at any given spot. I have tried glazing new kernals, prl, radio, etc...what is the best combination to run cm7.1...any help with this would greatly. Be appreciated....thanks in advance....oh ya I was having problems with wireless tethering. Also but was able to fix that with placing a tether folder in root that was missing
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The sense roms' signal bars are a little more generous than aosp. go to settings about phone and status and look at the dBm's for an accurate reading of signal strength.
On cm7 I usually stay between one and two bars, whereas on sense I would read up to four in the same areas, with the same dBm reading (no difference in actual signal strength).

I'm sitting at -94 to -97 dbm and 0asu....is that about normal?....I switched to a savage kernal the other day which seems to be helping other issues but radio is still an issue ...thanks for your help
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what i'm trying to get across is that you don't have a radio issue. The same dBm will show more bars on a sense ROM than an aosp one.
If you'd like, flash a sense ROM and an aosp one. Then take an average in the same area over a period of time of what you're dBm's are. You shouldn't see much of a difference because roms have nothing to do with signal strength.
Edit: there us no 'normal' dBm number because there are so many variables to signal strength (distance from tower, humidity, elevation etc.). If you start to drop calls then you have a problem, if not, you're fine.

Gotcha....thanks for the insight!!!
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oACE10o said:
I'm sitting at -94 to -97 dbm and 0asu....is that about normal?....I switched to a savage kernal the other day which seems to be helping other issues but radio is still an issue ...thanks for your help
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Yeah you're not going to drop a call or get slow data from that, it is rather low though but nothing to worry about. Once it goes past 100 you should start to worry but again it'd still have to be significantly lower for all the bad stuff to start happening.
Besides all that, what makes you think this is a radio problem instead of just not-so-great coverage?

Just had some issues with wifi, calls, 3g/4g coverage , market connection( even on wifi)
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