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Worried about encryption bug

Been using ics passion for a couple months now as a daily driver and havent had many issues, but i recently read about the ics encryptiom bug that basically randomly bricks phones for no reason so im thinking about switching away till its safe...
I just wanna be sure what roms have this bug?
Also whats ics passion based on?
So would it be all ics or just CM9? Nexus ports? Aosp? Gsii?
Thank you in advance
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younix258 said:
Been using ics passion for a couple months now as a daily driver and havent had many issues, but i recently read about the ics encryptiom bug that basically randomly bricks phones for no reason so im thinking about switching away till its safe...
I just wanna be sure what roms have this bug?
Also whats ics passion based on?
So would it be all ics or just CM9? Nexus ports? Aosp? Gsii?
Thank you in advance
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Passion is based off CM9. All I know is people who have been using Passion have been getting that encryption crap; so if I were you I'd flash back to either a froyo rom or a GB rom just to be safe until devs can break this crap.

Never even heard of this bug, try other ics roms like euphoria or iczen
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From what I can gather it is totally and completely random. I have seen it on Passion, CM9, Docmasters' AOKP, and one case on Zen. It is happening more frequently on Captivates, however just yesterday there was a thread in my tablet (OG Transformer) where it hit a guy on his tablet (rooted but stock ROM).
So far what I know is it runs an encryption process (which is normal) and your phone is supposed to throw out a standard key. But for some reason it skips this and bc of small skip, the encryption begins. That is what is locking up the internal SD. Everything is still there, you just can't get to it. If it happens, there is no way to stop it or recover from it. There is a way to repartition your external_sd to make your phone think it is the internal and install your apps there plus whatever you put on it (pix, music,videos,...).
Sucks!!! I put a big warning in my ICS guide to say that if the error is thrown, DO NOT HIT RESET and a link to the fix but it is happening to everyone from noobs to experienced users.
Here is the thread in the Cappy forums on the workaround.
[Guide] Encryption Unsuccessful - Reset Android [ICS Issue]
The guy who it happened to on the Zenwich ROM was able to use the above as a workaround but his internal is shot/locked up.
It is a real scare and no one knows how it starts or why or how to stop it and should be a real consideration on whether or not to flash ICS ROMs.

Thanks guys.. i guess im switxhing back to gb or froyo
So its an ics thing i guess?
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younix258 said:
Thanks guys.. i guess im switxhing back to gb or froyo
So its an ics thing i guess?
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Yeah it's an ICS thing and completely random, I was running ICZen when I read this. I went back to GB and wait until the devs figured out what cause this and fix this damn issue.
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Thanks for letting us know.
Wow, 5 stars for this thread. Thanks for letting us know!

Whoa, ANY ICS rom? Or just Samsungs? If its any, wow. Good thing we don't have HW acceleration or I'd be on ICS too.
As an added note, I ran Passion on my Vibrant for about 3-4 months, never had this issue.
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Same, i ran mine ssince V7 in early feb lol
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This hit me on Sunday. My Vibrant keeps rebooting and won't let me do anything. I Odined back to stock and still nothing. If we could find someone who could create a tar file that can be used in Odin that repartitions the internal SDcard that would be sweet. But yes. It SUX!!! And I was running Euphoria.

It has mainly been on Passion and CM9 variants but the other day it hit a Zen and now [your] Euphoria (both AOKP variants). I am still looking into this and reading the Cappy and I9000 threads but for now, Merio90 has an Odin package and instructions for a work around. It is here.

Are there two variants of the Sprint S4 and is there...

and is anyone experiencing any lag? I seem to get more than normal. I've had it two weeks and now considering to get an HTC One....

Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.

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Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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Yeah, I agree. I hope there is an update soon. Rooting it does make a difference in speed though. But I don't really want to keep it rooted unless I have to.

mmmajor said:
Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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I have both as well and the S4 is faster in my testing to. I have no lag either. I took the One back and gor another S4 and gave to my wife.
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inlineboy said:
That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.

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Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.
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Simply getting root access shouldn't change levels of lag or the lack of it. Is that all you did, root it?
Check your firmware version in about phone, the latest is MDL, its still rolling out so if your still having lag that's most likely why.
If you don't know that you received it. You didn't. A notification pops up saying a system update is available and you have to click and click accept the update. It doesn't just update itself.
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Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.

carnivalrejectq said:
Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Does anyone know if the update breaks root and or the boatloader?
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heyjoojoo said:
Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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The person was strictly talking about rooting not installing a ROM. Which is true all rooting does is open up your device for total control of the phone, from there you can do many things to help with the lag, but just rooting wouldn't affect lag. Not everyone installs a ROM after rooting.
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If you have lag than you dont have the update.....and yes the update will give you trouble with root. But there are workarounds...... I personally unrooted to get the update. Going to run this for a bit until my next move....
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heyjoojoo said:
Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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inlineboy said:
You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?

heyjoojoo said:
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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heyjoojoo said:
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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I said check version in "About Phone"! If your on MDC, its probably why, MDL seemed to fix all the issues with any lag anyone was having!
Either way, you still have access to the AOSP roms which are running great right now, and Team Venum is going to be coming out with some great TW roms this weekendish so look out for those!
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GiantJay said:
Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.

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How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.
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Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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GiantJay said:
Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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Huh?

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Huh?
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He's answering your question. Mdl is tje latest. Sammy used tje letter as build dates. M=2013 d=April and l=day of month.
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[Q]AOSP G2 only?

Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?

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Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?
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Thats why im getting it....

david279 said:
Thats why im getting it....
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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?

DroidQ said:
Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?
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Im gonna root it day one and run CM11. Im on sprint so i could have took the easy route with a n5 but I like to do some tinkering so here i go.

Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.

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Thats why im getting it....
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JRJ442 said:
Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.
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It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.

DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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Some have issues getting ROMs to flash on the 12B for VZW update. But over time all the ROMs will have that fixed. The ROM community seem to have most of the bugs fixed or they're working on fixing them. I'd say give some a try.

DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.

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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.
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This is good to hear. It sounds like G2 is the next best thing to having a Nexus on Verizon. At least I know I am not crazy or at least no alone in wanted to root and rom immediately.

I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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DHM078 said:
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. The battery and camera are hard to ignore especially when they are two of my biggest issues with my Galaxy Nexus. Hardware you cannot change, but software.... I will check out PA, CM and the other AOSP options available. I guess I better research and prepare for 12B just in case it is already updated.

I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.

When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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kennypow3rs said:
When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.
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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.

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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.
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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586

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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586
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Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?

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I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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I wanted to reply in this thread but you did it for me. Exactly what happened with me (Intl instead of Verizon).

DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.

DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.

Rodeojones said:
Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.
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khaytsus said:
Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.
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Sounds like 'to each their own...' regarding the rear keys, yet they do not appear to be a deal breaker or keeping you from enjoying the phone.
I recently read a review that praised the hardware, yet cursed the software. They even commented that this phone is probably better for people who root phones. I am looking forward to doing so.

[Q] KitKat and Custom Roms

Sorry if this has been covered, I didn't really see much on this. Per my request, my work just ordered me a Note 3 and of course I don't have the ability to leave it alone. I won't have it until next week but I assume it will have Jellybean on it still? Are there any stable roms that are based on KitKat for this phone? Any word on a formal release of KitKat? With the help of a better launcher, I might try and keep this one stock for now, but who knows.
Right now I have an S3 running the Beanstalk 4.4 rom based on 4.4.2 which I absolutely love. The phone is very fast and stable. As I mentioned, this is a work phone (which doubles as a personal phone) so I can't sacrifice stability since I rely on the phone every day. Another reason why the phone might stay stock if I can get the formal KitKat release on it...
Looking at case options as well. Anyone running this case?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DCIZJ5S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2SFKRF5TPZMT5

Exact case I have except in red. Love it! Nothing known on kit kat yet though.
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ginger man said:
Exact case I have except in red. Love it! Nothing known on kit kat yet though.
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I'm glad the case is good. I'll have it tomorrow. I really hope they release KitKat soon, I hate taking a step backwards.
On another subject, I just pre-ordered my wife an AT&T GS5 today!

What's the most upto date and reliable rom

I am currently running M.O.A.R. rom on my Verizon S5. It has been okay, but it has it's downfalls. I am asking the community, what is the most up to date and reliable rom out there for the S5? Should I just go back to a stock rom? Looking for any and all advice.

none of them are perfect. Thats the difference between this phone and the last couple android phones ive had. With my s3 and my epic4g there was always one or two roms that were rock solid perfect even if not very exciting. Here its just what you can live with not working vs another
EDIT: I take that back, there were a couple rock solid roms, before everyone started switching to lollipop. Mrxtc's RICKSROM on Kitkat was rock effing solid. But he took it down. Kitkat in general was wholly more reliable and way better battery life and just everything. I wish someone still had a nice Kitkat rom.

damagi123 said:
none of them are perfect. Thats the difference between this phone and the last couple android phones ive had. With my s3 and my epic4g there was always one or two roms that were rock solid perfect even if not very exciting. Here its just what you can live with not working vs another
EDIT: I take that back, there were a couple rock solid roms, before everyone started switching to lollipop. Mrxtc's RICKSROM on Kitkat was rock effing solid. But he took it down. Kitkat in general was wholly more reliable and way better battery life and just everything. I wish someone still had a nice Kitkat rom.
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I can't remember, but does HD calling work on KK? I'm currently on Phoenix but I am only connected to 3g for some reason.

i dont think but ive never ever had call quality issues with VZ so i never noticed HD calling doing much of anything.

Yes it does allow hd calling. Running it on my wives s5 on ricks Rom.
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Yes it does allow hd calling. Running it on my wives s5 on ricks Rom.
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its still the most stable rom. good choice

I'm gonna try rolling back from Lollipop to Kitkat so I can try Rick's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796501&highlight=lollipop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880

Freedom Rom is pretty stable with a few quirks, but I don't know if there will be any updates.