[Q] 4.3 more troublesome than useful? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My N4 just arrived today.
I have version 4.2.2 installed.
A quick search on gooogle shows a lot of negative feedback from users on the 4.3 update.
I want to root it too but I'm unsure about the update, have you ecountered problems with latest update that couldn't be fixed?
Or better said, what are the most common bugs and can they be fixed?
Also what about roms, which one should i try, PA?

Some people experienced random reboots, I never had them on JWR, I do on JSS.
Also JSS has sometimes dead locks and freezes for about 10 seconds.
But since the update I experience much better battery life! So yeah if you will use the stock ROM I guess you wont have any of these problems, only advantages.

Thanks for the question and the answer, I'm in the same spot and maybe I'll try some custom JWR this weekend, although the plethora of different specific 4.3 bugs going around - besides those already mentioned - remembers a X-File case.
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Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now

Bozdo said:
Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now
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Just update first.
Then install a custom recovery and flash supersu.
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Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?

4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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K0FFP0LICE said:
4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?

OTA 4.3 update with twrp 2.5 no root.
I have no issues.
If you want a reliable jwr custom ROM then cataclysm is awesome and has no problems either for me.
I use stock for unrooted and cataclysm rooted regularly for different reasons but I definitely recommend updating to 4.3 regardless.
NeXuS⁴

Bozdo said:
So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?
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Not sure. That's why I'm on a custom ROM. Devs usually fix things quicker.
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Bozdo said:
Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?
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You can always go back to a previous version. I'm not really sure why you're being so skittish.
FYI, "5.0" will likely be far more riddled with bugs. More changes means more room for error. You have a freaking Nexus. Get with the program.
My advice to you is to not use a toolkit. Setup fastboot and know how to flash the stock images BEFORE attempting anything. That way, if something goes wrong you can fix it without making yet another "HALP! I bricked my phone" thread. We have way too many of those.

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[Q] Android 4.2 vs 4.2.2

I have a stock Nexus 4 and it says an Update is available.
So far, my phone has been working ok and I am afraid that the Update will cause issues.
Does anyone know what are the changes between 4.2 and 4.2.2?
krowc said:
I have a stock Nexus 4 and it says an Update is available.
So far, my phone has been working ok and I am afraid that the Update will cause issues.
Does anyone know what are the changes between 4.2 and 4.2.2?
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An update doesn't cause issues, it fixes them... Especially an update from Google directly.
Also if you Google search "4.2.2 Changelog" you'll get what you're looking for.
Its not that hard. :good:
MrDarkKV said:
An update doesn't cause issues, it fixes them... Especially an update from Google directly.
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LOL who told you that?
I am using stock non rooted 4.2.2 with no issues
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krowc said:
I have a stock Nexus 4 and it says an Update is available.
So far, my phone has been working ok and I am afraid that the Update will cause issues.
Does anyone know what are the changes between 4.2 and 4.2.2?
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I always flash the whole rom instead of OTA`s to avoid issues. You get them here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam.

[Q] Should i Root?

I receive my Nexus 4 tomorrow, Im still debating whether i should root the phone or just keep it stock, any recommendations? Thank you
Depends if you want to enhance your user experience or be happy with how it is
I say root but use it a couple days and once you find that you're installing apps that require su permissions then root it.
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zeffy621 said:
I receive my Nexus 4 tomorrow, Im still debating whether i should root the phone or just keep it stock, any recommendations? Thank you
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Ideally NO!
First use for a couple of days and check for any software or hardware related issues also check the battery backup with stock rom,kernel and then you are free to root.
Rohit02 said:
Ideally NO!
First use for a couple of days and check for any software or hardware related issues also check the battery backup with stock rom,kernel and then you are free to root.
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what rom/kernal do you use?
zeffy621 said:
what rom/kernal do you use?
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currently stock with franco kernel as rumors are out that 4.3 is goin to be released this week/month.
Rohit02 said:
currently stock with franco kernel as rumors are out that 4.3 is goin to be released this week/month.
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Keeping the stock rom will not let you update to 4.3 if you have a custom recovery installed. //not true
I couldn't imagine using an unrooted phone, rooted mine within hours. But as suggested, you should check yours first for a couple of days for defects, then root.
Sent from my blazing fast Nexus 4
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Keeping the stock rom will not let you update to 4.3 if you have a custom recovery installed.
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Having a custom recovery will not prevent you from receiving or installing the ota update
From my BLACKED OUT N4
spaceman860 said:
Having a custom recovery will not prevent you from receiving or installing the ota update
From my BLACKED OUT N4
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Really? Well, one learns new things every day.
Idk why you would get a nexus and not root. They're made for that. Screen color calibration, pie for more screen space, smoothness and longer battery life, USB otg. The list goes on! I didn't even use mine stock for more than a couple of minutes
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One word.....Greenify!!
938 tiatesd
zeffy621 said:
I receive my Nexus 4 tomorrow, Im still debating whether i should root the phone or just keep it stock, any recommendations? Thank you
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Of the few Android devices that I own, stock systems have a few disadvantages to my taste:
1. BLOATWARE UP THE A$$
2. SO-SO OPERATING SPEED AND SOME LAG
3. DULL "EVERYBODY-HAS-IT" STOCK SYSTEM => BORING
Advantages of stock systems:
1. Somewhat more or most stable.
2. Much simpler to adjust settings without too many new technical terms or technicalities.
3. Warranty stays if you have it.
I'm still new and still play around with custom ROMs, as I am heavy on eliminating of proprietary software staying on my devices, both computers and smartphones. If it's there, it has to serve a purpose; otherwise, it MUST be gone, not just DISABLED.
I'd definitely root it! To get all the extra goodies which stock doesn't have (like Pie, hide navbar, themes, tweaks, undervolting, underclocking, adblock etc). But try out stock vanilla android and see it root is actually needed for you.

Nexus 4,4.3 update worst ever!!!(Need Help)

It's been 4 months since i bought Nexus 4 i was enjoying the 4.2 version no problems with heating issues(very minor no biggie),no performance problems neither graphic or application related issues..........however i did found out that there was Bluetooth problem in Nexus 4 devices,thought by next update it might solve that issue(bug).
Now i updated to 4.3 i received OTA and after installing it :-
The games i used to play lag ridiculously which didn't in previous 4.2,i saw drop in frame rates,the graphics were better before now the look like some 8-bit textures.....What the Hell?!?
My phone now get overheated my messaging and surfing which it didn't used to on 4.2 and it heats like anything when i am on call.....
Now it works very slow as if the update has degraded its hardware capability..... :crying:
Please provide me instructional guidance on how to rollback to my previous 4.2 version stock android(i did factory reset it didn't help,its still 4.3)
I need your HELP here!!!
You can flash 4.2.2 factory image through fastboot.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thibaultvw said:
You can flash 4.2.2 factory image through fastboot.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thanks for replying mate,you see am total noob at this android stuff,new to it totally....can u guide on how to do "fastboot"?
It will be a great help.
bludon said:
Thanks for replying mate,you see am total noob at this android stuff,new to it totally....can u guide on how to do "fastboot"?
It will be a great help.
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You can use a toolkit which does it all for you. Or you can take a look at efrant's guide on how to flash a factory image if u want to do it urself.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thibaultvw said:
You can use a toolkit which does it all for you. Or you can take a look at efrant's guide on how to flash a factory image if u want to do it urself.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Okay,where can i get this toolkit?
i checked efrant's guide.....there is lot in there so i will need to look more into at it.
Thank you Thibaultvw.
is it that hard to use forum tools to search for keywords like... say... nexus 4 toolkit? come one people... it's a rule, it ain't matter you are a newbie you can always search... anyway go to nexus 4 section, then go to original android development and there you have toolkits in the first 5-6 threads. goog luck
I'd personally reflash the 4.3 factory image before going back, I've had no issues with 4.3 after a nice clean install (never used the OTA as I didn't wanna wait)
EddyOS said:
I'd personally reflash the 4.3 factory image before going back, I've had no issues with 4.3 after a nice clean install (never used the OTA as I didn't wanna wait)
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Hell broke lose after updating to 4.3 man.....i am not the only one google "Nexus 4 update 4.3 problems"......
apoalex said:
is it that hard to use forum tools to search for keywords like... say... nexus 4 toolkit? come one people... it's a rule, it ain't matter you are a newbie you can always search... anyway go to nexus 4 section, then go to original android development and there you have toolkits in the first 5-6 threads. goog luck
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Hahah...not that noob pal,i searched before asking you about the toolkits......i thought you might know website or something.
bludon said:
Hell broke lose after updating to 4.3 man.....i am not the only one google "Nexus 4 update 4.3 problems"......
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I'm not saying there are no issues, I'm just I have had none of them. Now, whether this is because I'm 100% stock I can't say...
As been told, just flash the 4.2.2 image if you wanna go back but honestly i had no problems but applications incompatibility and that's not cause of 4.3 but the applications that doesn't support it yet.
Luis_D1 said:
As been told, just flash the 4.2.2 image if you wanna go back but honestly i had no problems but applications incompatibility and that's not cause of 4.3 but the applications that doesn't support it yet.
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4.2.2 was really much better to be honest,but from what i experienced was that my N4 became very slow i mean chrome taking time to open gmail taking time to open a mail and even refresh,the games i have like Vector,Virtual Tennis Challenge i saw like graphics screwed up........maybe i agree with you maybe be they are not compatible.....
But overheating,reduced performance,its to much to take,i googled a found people unable to turn on their N4 atleast am lucky my situation wasn't upto that.
Thats weird... I installed NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt 7 and they both worked nicely... I also thought there might be some graphics issues but its fine. Maybe you like to try again? maybe there's a missing wipe or something that is causing all these problems.
bludon said:
Please provide me instructional guidance on how to rollback to my previous 4.2 version stock android(i did factory reset it didn't help,its still 4.3)
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Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
Luis_D1 said:
Thats weird... I installed NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt 7 and they both worked nicely... I also thought there might be some graphics issues but its fine. Maybe you like to try again? maybe there's a missing wipe or something that is causing all these problems.
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Did a Factory reset,still same issue....strange though i did read that 4.3 update improved performance for people but from what i could tell you that there very few like 1 or 2 people in 30 or some complaints saying 4.3 worked as charm for them.....it worked for you to,wonder what is google going to do about it
Nate2 said:
Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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What's not easy? Download the factory image from Google and flash it the same way you would any factory image from Google. It has the easiest of all mobile phones to up/downgrade as it's a Nexus device
Nate2 said:
Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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That was the same thing in my mind though,but it seems Nexus 4 has no option to rollback stock,the galaxy nexus series do,some i think.
Flashing 4.2.2 stock is the only solution i think:angel:
It isnt that hard. Just find yourself a good video tutorial if you like and all good
Nate2 said:
Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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You get a developer targeted OS on a Developer device and want things to be easy

Issue Free 4.3 Rom for Kid

Hey Guys,
I recently upgraded to the new Nexus 7 and am giving my old one to my little sister. I wanted to update to 4.3 but am not sure if there are any stable roms that she won't need to update or trouble shoot yet.
Any suggestions?
Should i just try the stock 4.3 for her?
Thanks
Alex2x3 said:
Hey Guys,
I recently upgraded to the new Nexus 7 and am giving my old one to my little sister. I wanted to update to 4.3 but am not sure if there are any stable roms that she won't need to update or trouble shoot yet.
Any suggestions?
Should i just try the stock 4.3 for her?
Thanks
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I would recommend stock 4.3
1. Wont need to trouble shoot.
2. Will get a message when Google pushes an update
3. Stable
I agree with kilometers4...
Stock JellyBean 4.3 is smooth, stable and secure.... and has minimal maintenance hassles.
Difficult to recommend anything else really.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Anything with stock kernel is basically reliable in the fact the source is AOSP so everything is opened up to us and is stable. Can't go wrong with stock. I myself am currently using one of the first roms that came out Clean ROM 4.0 and it's just peachy.
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What everyone else said. For a kid the most stable and trouble free ROM is usually stock.
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Issue flashing 'Google' edition ROMs...

Hi, I'm probably being very idiotic atm but I can't think of any logical issues.
I'm using the Samsung Galaxy S4 i337.. I downgraded from NB1 to MK2, got root, installed safestrap, and attempted to install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544474
It was my understanding this came with Loki-Doki (saw it floating around in a different thread asking if it worked, can find it if nessecary) as a patch. So I downloaded and backed up my stock install, and attempted to install this.
Now the problem is when I boot, it returns me to a bootloop, if you could call that progress.. It vibrates occasionally while bootlooping (samsung - safeboot - blackscreen - vibrate - samsung....). I still have access to safestrap, download mode and so on, if it helps at all. I've also tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495 WITH loki-doki (as it is explicitly stated) to no success either..
I'm looking for one of two solutions;
how to get stock firmware back, or how to properly install this? Or any variation thereof. . . I don't know what the problem is ahaha
Bumping to say multiple wipes>reflashes later the blue screen has yet to occur, not sure what that was... Bootlooping is the huge problem now!
You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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jd1639 said:
You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.
Rhymey said:
Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.
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It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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jd1639 said:
It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?
Rhymey said:
Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?
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Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49562527
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So will it ever be possible to flash AOSP ROMs on NB1?
Not until the bootloader is unlocked. There is no telling when that will be.
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Best bet is to find a ROM that you like, then install the Google Experience Launcher apk. It will give your phone the stock google launcher.
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Domination Theme will also extensively theme your touchwiz rom to give it a more complete AOSP look without an AOSP rom.
All right thanks for the help guys.

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