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Stay Stock Or Custom Rom?

Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
Thanks Guys
George

Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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dparrothead1 said:
Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out

Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35472344#post35472344

dannymassacre said:
Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out

While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.

BrianDigital said:
IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-

Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!

I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...

Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.

I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.

[Q] 4.3 more troublesome than useful?

My N4 just arrived today.
I have version 4.2.2 installed.
A quick search on gooogle shows a lot of negative feedback from users on the 4.3 update.
I want to root it too but I'm unsure about the update, have you ecountered problems with latest update that couldn't be fixed?
Or better said, what are the most common bugs and can they be fixed?
Also what about roms, which one should i try, PA?

Some people experienced random reboots, I never had them on JWR, I do on JSS.
Also JSS has sometimes dead locks and freezes for about 10 seconds.
But since the update I experience much better battery life! So yeah if you will use the stock ROM I guess you wont have any of these problems, only advantages.

Thanks for the question and the answer, I'm in the same spot and maybe I'll try some custom JWR this weekend, although the plethora of different specific 4.3 bugs going around - besides those already mentioned - remembers a X-File case.
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Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now

Bozdo said:
Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now
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Just update first.
Then install a custom recovery and flash supersu.
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Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?

4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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K0FFP0LICE said:
4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?

OTA 4.3 update with twrp 2.5 no root.
I have no issues.
If you want a reliable jwr custom ROM then cataclysm is awesome and has no problems either for me.
I use stock for unrooted and cataclysm rooted regularly for different reasons but I definitely recommend updating to 4.3 regardless.
NeXuS⁴

Bozdo said:
So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?
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Not sure. That's why I'm on a custom ROM. Devs usually fix things quicker.
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Bozdo said:
Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?
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You can always go back to a previous version. I'm not really sure why you're being so skittish.
FYI, "5.0" will likely be far more riddled with bugs. More changes means more room for error. You have a freaking Nexus. Get with the program.
My advice to you is to not use a toolkit. Setup fastboot and know how to flash the stock images BEFORE attempting anything. That way, if something goes wrong you can fix it without making yet another "HALP! I bricked my phone" thread. We have way too many of those.

Where can i get a stable paranoid android 4.2 rom from?

Hi guys, i received my nexus 4 16GB today, and was wondering where can i get a stable (no bugs) paranoid android rom for 4.2 that is rooted?
thanks,

androidmodd said:
Hi guys, i received my nexus 4 16GB today, and was wondering where can i get a stable (no bugs) paranoid android rom for 4.2 that is rooted?
thanks,
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http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/mako/pa_mako-3.69-20130722.zip

Never mind, I installed PA 3.99 and couldn't be happier xD
only reason i was asking about android 4.2 rom before was because i thought 4.3 still had root issues.

androidmodd said:
Never mind, I installed PA 3.99 and couldn't be happier xD
only reason i was asking about android 4.2 rom before was because i thought 4.3 still had root issues.
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Nope they were fixed awhile ago. Plus, if you're on a 4.2.2 ROM chances are it will try and download the 4.3 OTA and end up using so much data on your phone unless you restrict data to Google or something like that. Yes it does happen even if you're on a custom ROM.

Who's Going Back to Stock for KitKat?

Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?

When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor

I am. Of course the factory images will probably be released before OTA so I will flash them instead
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When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor
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No one knows for sure = rumor

I am
I'm on PA now, but will probably go back to stock when 4.4 arrives. As I heard over at ParanoidAndroid Community on G+ on 4.4 they're going to make it all over again, so it's going to take time.
Waited for PA 4.3, not going to wait again for 4.4

I am currently back on stock in anticipation of that sweet chocolatey crunch.

I can use AOSP or stock as long as Xposed Framework is working for it too.

After what happened with 4.3 update -_- I am going to wait for couple days before jumping to Kit Kat. Probably will wait for PA Kit Kat rom.
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I literally just flashed back to stock today. However, I am considering flashing another rom because I keep losing data on stock. I can always flash the system image for KitKat when it's released.
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I m already on stock. Will I get the OTA if iam on a rooted stock ROM?
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I'll go back to stock just to have the vanilla experience for awhile before jumping on a rom.

always been on stock rom rooted and twrp installed phone always takes ota updates just fine ......never seen any point flashing custom rom on this phone as phone is pretty cool as is ...only issue i have with the nexus 4 is that they knocked 100 off price 3 weeks after i purchased haha but love this phone

Will probably flash back to stock and then restore my current ROM as a second rom.

I will flash factory images and start all over with a fresh new phone. Hopefully it still has root. I wanna stick with stock for awhile now sick of various bugs here and there. For example, on cm my GPS takes hours to lock and even when it locks it isn't precise but on PA, GPS works just fine. The phone also lags here and there like when I initially turn it on from sleep and try to unlock or pull notification bar down. For me stock has always been faster than custom ROMs even though they have some really useful features
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I just got a new nexus 7 2013. So I left that stock and lucky me on my Nexus 4 started getting base band unknown on anything but stock JWR rooted. So clean wiped and flashed stock. I had a Neo kernel system folder with scripts I couldn't delete. Feel much better now, couldn't say if I had ever clean wiped since getting the phone.
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I will flash factory images.. I don't want to wait the OTA..

Already stock except for the kernel. Just a quick 'fastboot flash boot boot.img' of the stock 4.3 kernel and I'll be all set for OTA or Factory Images (though Factory Images would mean I don't even need to waste time reflashing stock 4.3 kernel.)
Probably going to use default stock launcher for awhile depending on the changes instead of Smart Launcher. Really like the rumors/previews we've seen of it so far. Especially since I am so embedded with Google Now. The left panel swipe would be awesome I think.

oxxshadow said:
Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?
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I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.

Ümit said:
I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.
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Exactly that
That solved nearly all of my problem's
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I would but I can't live without franko kernel or PIE, so I'll wait for Pa update
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Best rom to give phone to my mother

Hi all,
I've been running Omni, but I just upgraded to a nexus 5. What would be an ideal rom that doesn't need to be updated regularly and I can install franco's kernel on before giving it to her?
Thank you

DallasJones said:
Hi all,
I've been running Omni, but I just upgraded to a nexus 5. What would be an ideal rom that doesn't need to be updated regularly and I can install franco's kernel on before giving it to her?
Thank you
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I think that the best rom to give to her is stock kit-kat. The reason is that it doesn't need to be updated much and if it does it will do it automatically. Also if she has a problem she can take it to a phone shop or ask google without the rom being a problem.
Thats just my opinion though.

Yeah, what's wrong with stock?
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Stock. Not rooted. Unless you live with her and are willing to deal with any issues she may have. Custom ROM's, while great, aren't always complete and are meant for those that understand that there are some "bugs". The stock ROM at least will be easy to update.

My other half has a nexus 4 as well. She is a woman so you get the idea.
She is super happy with the stock rooted jellybean. It is rooted just because I didn't want her to click on ads and buy shoes from dodgy sellers. Adaway was the solution for me.
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4 people all in agreement! Awesome result.
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