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[Q] Worth Upgrading to 4.2?

I've heard problem after problem regarding the 4.2 update so far. I got my Nexus 10, and I never did the OTA update. Everything runs flawlessly; I've had 0 restarts or FCs since I got it a week ago. What are the advantages of upgrading to 4.2, besides the multi-user support (which I doubt I'll use)?

godvsnietzsche said:
I've heard problem after problem regarding the 4.2 update so far. I got my Nexus 10, and I never did the OTA update. Everything runs flawlessly; I've had 0 restarts or FCs since I got it a week ago. What are the advantages of upgrading to 4.2, besides the multi-user support (which I doubt I'll use)?
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Tons and tons of bugfixes, among other things.

Ive had no problems at all after the OTA update?
Where are all the problems then?

Irrespective of whether you do the update or no... you will have 4.2... just an older version with things like multi-user support disabled...

craigacgomez said:
Irrespective of whether you do the update or no... you will have 4.2... just an older version with things like multi-user support disabled...
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This. I believe it's like either using a beta/pre-release 4.2, or release 4.2

Valynor said:
Tons and tons of bugfixes, among other things.
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What sorts of bug fixes? I haven't had any so far (that I know of). The bugs I've heard about are things like december is missing, the clock won't sync correctly. I didn't realize that I was just on an older version of JellyBean though, so I guess I have no reason not to update. Thanks for the help guys!

godvsnietzsche said:
What sorts of bug fixes? I haven't had any so far (that I know of).
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Just as an example for the amount of stuff that goes on that most people never heard about, this is a "complete" changelog from the 4.1.1->4.1.2 update:
https://gist.github.com/3861583
Most if not all updates are like this, they fix things you didn't even know that they were broken.

My device says it HAS 4.2 but the device has a 4.2 update it wants me to install. Will this break my root? If so it there a fix to disable the OTA update?

jerryp7 said:
My device says it HAS 4.2 but the device has a 4.2 update it wants me to install. Will this break my root? If so it there a fix to disable the OTA update?
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Use Vodoo OtaRootKeeper before update for when you do lose it. you can restore root after update.
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Android 4.3 brings trim, I hope we also get the update

Check this out!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7185/android-43-update-brings-trim-to-all-nexus-devices
It seems that Android 4.3 finally brings TRIM to the game. Now I also want 4.3
Let's hope Motorola brings an update.

I hope for Android 5.0 - this is the **** that will bring the future, serious performance improvements , and MUST HAVE on my phone. Android 4.3 and 4.2 are small updates for me.
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From where do you get the information that 5.0 should bring more performance?

adddaamo said:
I hope for Android 5.0 - this is the **** that will bring the future, serious performance improvements , and MUST HAVE on my phone. Android 4.3 and 4.2 are small updates for me.
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5.0 is nothing but rumors, you'll wait a ton of time before getting it, even on a nexus. 4.3 or even 4.2.2 is the best we can do now.

I'm more worried about the Maps version that will come with 4.3, because Maps 7.x kills the Navigator app. And i give up on trim if it kills the navigator.
Anyway, just today i received an OTA and could not identify what update this one is. Can anyone confirm if it is 4.3 by any chance of the destiny?
This OTA is named 982.50.29.en.BR (49,6MB). It's a carrier-less phone, xt890 bought in Brazil.
Edit: I'm currently on 982.50.20.XT890.Brasil.en.BR , it reports as Android 4.1.2 jelly bean.
Edit 2: no, this update is not 4.2 neither 4.3, it's just a security fix for master-key bug. I confirmed this on other topics.
Back to topic: can anyone confirm if 4.3 brings Maps 7.x with it?

If you want TRIM, you can use Lagfix Free on a rooted RAZR i:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
It seems to work on the XT890, at least it says it is successful (it fails on my Xperias).

MauricioRPP said:
Back to topic: can anyone confirm if 4.3 brings Maps 7.x with it?
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I still have maps 7.x. it came as a normal update from Playstore.
I am from germany.
But it force closed 6 or 7 times in 6h of navigation. Not so good, when you drive with 180kph and you get a fc of this app.
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Navigation on maps 7.x never gave me FC even when used for hours ...

It seems to get better...
Yesterday with 5 hours of navigation only one fc of maps
I enabled Google play services before (which is normaly frozen by TB because of many wakelocks) and made a reboot. Perhaps this is the reason.
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Lagfix Free is not working on the Omar M7 ROM :/

HiagoCosta said:
Lagfix Free is not working on the Omar M7 ROM :/
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right now the Omar m7 Rom is muteing every sound... . but M4 works also great. hope the fix will be there soon.

in the original thread of omar's ROM have the fix for this, just dele folder /data/alsa and reboot.
sorry for my bad english, i'll try be better for the next time!

Hope see 4.4 or 5.0 in razr i ;D

[Q] nexus 7 keeps restarting after 4.3 update

this is my first time making an account/posting on xda after being a long time reader and user. just need some help with my nexus 7 32gb WiFi (Australian model) i have loved this tablet and I have never had a problem with it, its unrooted and has never been dropped or anything like that, i updated it to 4.3 ota last night and almost instantly after that I have noticed it keeps rebooting itself like so many other people have problems with on earlyr versions like 4.2, please tell me what I can do to fix this, I can't find any straight help, my location is off and always has been, but I have noticed every now and again I would notice (on earlyr version) fused location would always stop working and ask me to force close randomly, that now doesn't happen but instead it retstarts, so do u think this could be the problem? any help would be awesome, thanks.

If you're having a problem with 4.3 you can try two things.
1. Revert back to 4.2.2
2. Try a rooted official stock ROM.
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fixed it!!
TheLastSidekick said:
If you're having a problem with 4.3 you can try two things.
1. Revert back to 4.2.2
2. Try a rooted official stock ROM.
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I fixed the proble,m, I found a site that finally gave me a good option to try besides rooting as I don't want to root my nexus 7, turns out HD widgets was cashing the issue, but the issue only showed up after this update, thanks for ur help though.

adex9 said:
I fixed the proble,m, I found a site that finally gave me a good option to try besides rooting as I don't want to root my nexus 7, turns out HD widgets was cashing the issue, but the issue only showed up after this update, thanks for ur help though.
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Ah good note. Thanks that's helpful for future knowledge. Glad all is well for you.
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I've had random reboots on 4.2.2 and one since updating to 4.3. Usually happens when I am mounting or unmounting a USB drive, but sometimes it's for no apparent reason.
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Nexus 4,4.3 update worst ever!!!(Need Help)

It's been 4 months since i bought Nexus 4 i was enjoying the 4.2 version no problems with heating issues(very minor no biggie),no performance problems neither graphic or application related issues..........however i did found out that there was Bluetooth problem in Nexus 4 devices,thought by next update it might solve that issue(bug).
Now i updated to 4.3 i received OTA and after installing it :-
The games i used to play lag ridiculously which didn't in previous 4.2,i saw drop in frame rates,the graphics were better before now the look like some 8-bit textures.....What the Hell?!?
My phone now get overheated my messaging and surfing which it didn't used to on 4.2 and it heats like anything when i am on call.....
Now it works very slow as if the update has degraded its hardware capability..... :crying:
Please provide me instructional guidance on how to rollback to my previous 4.2 version stock android(i did factory reset it didn't help,its still 4.3)
I need your HELP here!!!

You can flash 4.2.2 factory image through fastboot.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thibaultvw said:
You can flash 4.2.2 factory image through fastboot.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thanks for replying mate,you see am total noob at this android stuff,new to it totally....can u guide on how to do "fastboot"?
It will be a great help.

bludon said:
Thanks for replying mate,you see am total noob at this android stuff,new to it totally....can u guide on how to do "fastboot"?
It will be a great help.
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You can use a toolkit which does it all for you. Or you can take a look at efrant's guide on how to flash a factory image if u want to do it urself.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thibaultvw said:
You can use a toolkit which does it all for you. Or you can take a look at efrant's guide on how to flash a factory image if u want to do it urself.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Okay,where can i get this toolkit?
i checked efrant's guide.....there is lot in there so i will need to look more into at it.
Thank you Thibaultvw.

is it that hard to use forum tools to search for keywords like... say... nexus 4 toolkit? come one people... it's a rule, it ain't matter you are a newbie you can always search... anyway go to nexus 4 section, then go to original android development and there you have toolkits in the first 5-6 threads. goog luck

I'd personally reflash the 4.3 factory image before going back, I've had no issues with 4.3 after a nice clean install (never used the OTA as I didn't wanna wait)

EddyOS said:
I'd personally reflash the 4.3 factory image before going back, I've had no issues with 4.3 after a nice clean install (never used the OTA as I didn't wanna wait)
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Hell broke lose after updating to 4.3 man.....i am not the only one google "Nexus 4 update 4.3 problems"......

apoalex said:
is it that hard to use forum tools to search for keywords like... say... nexus 4 toolkit? come one people... it's a rule, it ain't matter you are a newbie you can always search... anyway go to nexus 4 section, then go to original android development and there you have toolkits in the first 5-6 threads. goog luck
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Hahah...not that noob pal,i searched before asking you about the toolkits......i thought you might know website or something.

bludon said:
Hell broke lose after updating to 4.3 man.....i am not the only one google "Nexus 4 update 4.3 problems"......
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I'm not saying there are no issues, I'm just I have had none of them. Now, whether this is because I'm 100% stock I can't say...

As been told, just flash the 4.2.2 image if you wanna go back but honestly i had no problems but applications incompatibility and that's not cause of 4.3 but the applications that doesn't support it yet.

Luis_D1 said:
As been told, just flash the 4.2.2 image if you wanna go back but honestly i had no problems but applications incompatibility and that's not cause of 4.3 but the applications that doesn't support it yet.
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4.2.2 was really much better to be honest,but from what i experienced was that my N4 became very slow i mean chrome taking time to open gmail taking time to open a mail and even refresh,the games i have like Vector,Virtual Tennis Challenge i saw like graphics screwed up........maybe i agree with you maybe be they are not compatible.....
But overheating,reduced performance,its to much to take,i googled a found people unable to turn on their N4 atleast am lucky my situation wasn't upto that.

Thats weird... I installed NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt 7 and they both worked nicely... I also thought there might be some graphics issues but its fine. Maybe you like to try again? maybe there's a missing wipe or something that is causing all these problems.

bludon said:
Please provide me instructional guidance on how to rollback to my previous 4.2 version stock android(i did factory reset it didn't help,its still 4.3)
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Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.

Luis_D1 said:
Thats weird... I installed NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt 7 and they both worked nicely... I also thought there might be some graphics issues but its fine. Maybe you like to try again? maybe there's a missing wipe or something that is causing all these problems.
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Did a Factory reset,still same issue....strange though i did read that 4.3 update improved performance for people but from what i could tell you that there very few like 1 or 2 people in 30 or some complaints saying 4.3 worked as charm for them.....it worked for you to,wonder what is google going to do about it

Nate2 said:
Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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What's not easy? Download the factory image from Google and flash it the same way you would any factory image from Google. It has the easiest of all mobile phones to up/downgrade as it's a Nexus device

Nate2 said:
Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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That was the same thing in my mind though,but it seems Nexus 4 has no option to rollback stock,the galaxy nexus series do,some i think.

Flashing 4.2.2 stock is the only solution i think:angel:

It isnt that hard. Just find yourself a good video tutorial if you like and all good

Nate2 said:
Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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You get a developer targeted OS on a Developer device and want things to be easy

[Q] 4.3 more troublesome than useful?

My N4 just arrived today.
I have version 4.2.2 installed.
A quick search on gooogle shows a lot of negative feedback from users on the 4.3 update.
I want to root it too but I'm unsure about the update, have you ecountered problems with latest update that couldn't be fixed?
Or better said, what are the most common bugs and can they be fixed?
Also what about roms, which one should i try, PA?

Some people experienced random reboots, I never had them on JWR, I do on JSS.
Also JSS has sometimes dead locks and freezes for about 10 seconds.
But since the update I experience much better battery life! So yeah if you will use the stock ROM I guess you wont have any of these problems, only advantages.

Thanks for the question and the answer, I'm in the same spot and maybe I'll try some custom JWR this weekend, although the plethora of different specific 4.3 bugs going around - besides those already mentioned - remembers a X-File case.
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Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now

Bozdo said:
Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now
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Just update first.
Then install a custom recovery and flash supersu.
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Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?

4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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K0FFP0LICE said:
4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?

OTA 4.3 update with twrp 2.5 no root.
I have no issues.
If you want a reliable jwr custom ROM then cataclysm is awesome and has no problems either for me.
I use stock for unrooted and cataclysm rooted regularly for different reasons but I definitely recommend updating to 4.3 regardless.
NeXuS⁴

Bozdo said:
So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?
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Not sure. That's why I'm on a custom ROM. Devs usually fix things quicker.
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Bozdo said:
Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?
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You can always go back to a previous version. I'm not really sure why you're being so skittish.
FYI, "5.0" will likely be far more riddled with bugs. More changes means more room for error. You have a freaking Nexus. Get with the program.
My advice to you is to not use a toolkit. Setup fastboot and know how to flash the stock images BEFORE attempting anything. That way, if something goes wrong you can fix it without making yet another "HALP! I bricked my phone" thread. We have way too many of those.