Hi All,
I have recently backed this kickstarter project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...le-worlds-most-versatile-stands/?ref=kicktraq
It seems awesome and exactly what I am looking for but I am now concerned about the neodymium magnet attached to the back of my N7. I searched the internet and XDA but although I found concerns I found no valid conclusions about if a magnet like this attached to my device, not on a case, would cause any issues.
I see some people made some mounts that involved neodymium magnets, but it seemed like the device was connected to the magnets for short periods off times (car mounts) not long term/24-7/permanently like with this stand that seems so awesome to me!
Why no responses??
Any idea why there have been no responses? I would have posted this in the accessories section, but when I indicated it was a question I was told to post it here in Q&A.
I have seen that a few years ago people posted neodymium magnets would not be safe to tablets, but I wonder if that is still the case. Is there potential for screen damage? data storage damage? GPS interference? by having the magnet attached to the tablet, instead of on a case.
Does this also mean, that if I do get this product and the magnet is attached to me tablet, I can't have the tablet near my laptop (which has a regular hard drive or credit cards?
Thanks!
me personally, i would never have any magnets anywhere near my electronics no matter who or what says.
but the project and its devs seem safe as indicated on their page. just keep in mind it's your risk
Those magnets shouldn't harm anything. The only issue I can think of would be accidentally locking the device with the magnet.
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veeman said:
Those magnets shouldn't harm anything. The only issue I can think of would be accidentally locking the device with the magnet.
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ok stupid question from a stupid person....if the magnet accidentally locked the device how would I be able to unlock it?
ms_guy99 said:
ok stupid question from a stupid person....if the magnet accidentally locked the device how would I be able to unlock it?
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By pressing the power button just like how you would normally wake the device. Or by moving the tablet away from the magnet should automatically wake it.
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By pressing the power button just like how you would normally wake the device. Or by moving the tablet away from the magnet should automatically wake it.
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Got it!! I thought so...but just needed to verify!
Hopefully with the magnet being attached to the tablet it won't cause any issues. With the bigger/stronger magnet on the stand and the smaller magnet being on the back of the tablet I should have no issues with just separating the two!!
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!
Can't wait for my stand!!!!!
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While reading the conspiracy theories, defects, issues (you know the ones that you never knew you had an issue until someone else told you theirs) threads..
I got to wanting to know how many of the "hard to open" box owners have had any issues with their units.
I realized my original hard to open box unit had double/ retaped seal.
Might they have taken a few of the units out and done something to them prior to shipping. Perhaps a last min fix (not a firmware update, as my unit got them after I opened it) or was that just to stick the FCC sticker on?
-CC
What do you define as a "hard to open box"?
just lou said:
What do you define as a "hard to open box"?
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This; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775785&highlight=hard+unbox
There are more threads about having a hard time opening it, suggesting to use a blender, sledgehammer, microwave or little sister to get it open. Not coming up on searches atm tho...
Interesting. :laugh: I can't say I had a "hard to open box" then.
Mine had 4 stickers on it .. one on each side of the box. After about 10 minutes of use ... my digitizer goes crazy and will not register in spots.
Mine wasn't exactly a slide-out easy open but it wasn't all that hard. I have no issues with mine.
Mine was exceptionally difficult to open, no issues with my unit.
Ah, that could be it? Makes sense.
Mine had been double taped back up, and left on to run down, so perhaps the screws had been tightened and they'd turned it on to test, without powering off.
Good theory.
With a box cutter I had my N7 out of the box in about 30 seconds.
Do people no longer use sharp objects to open boxes any more?
The box was most likely opened to add your account.
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Mine was opened, no screen problems though
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I find it hilarious people are basing quality of hardware on how hard it is to open a box.
For the record my box was low to medium hard to open and my nexus 7 is awesome.
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It's all about the technique. Most people will squeeze the sides causing a suction making it difficult to open. The people with technique slightly pull out all four sides to loosen top cover, lift under the opposing corners of top cover and shake out the bottom. No problem getting it opened and got a perfect first unit. Second unit from B&H in transit.
Mine was ridiculously hard to push out, I slid a v v thin bread knife down all the sides, not much help, much application of even pressure got a tiny bit of movement enabling me to pinch the rim of the sleeve then mm by mm 1 edge at a time I got movement then it slid off, I've thoroughly inspected the device NO sign of any of the common issues and a very happy consumer.
Just for more emphasis the sleeve was on TIGHT, my collar is blue and my arms are strong but this was so tight I was concerned that tightness might cause damage.
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The box was most likely opened to add your account.
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Add my account? How'd the store know I was gonna buy that unit at that store to put in my account without knowing the details?
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I find it hilarious people are basing quality of hardware on how hard it is to open a box.
For the record my box was low to medium hard to open and my nexus 7 is awesome.
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The question is it perhaps those with the harder to open boxes was because of the retaping to reseal a unit that may have been fixed last minute after the fact?
Once I got mine out I realized the tape glue and additional unintended to the design thickness of the added tape caused it to stick to the sleeve.
My second unit slid out almost by itself. It too had double tape but it seems the gamestop employees had already slid the sleeve off before. The inner box had smege on it, the sleeve was less than pristine, as my original unit.
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Add my account? How'd the store know I was gonna buy that unit at that store to put in my account without knowing the details?
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That is a good question. But mine was very difficult to open, I was surprised by it.
When I turned it on, it had my email and name there, I only had to enter my password.
Somehow it knew that unit was for my account.
My box wasn't hard to open at all. Yes the tapes were sturdy and can't be easily "cut" with your finger nails but it didn't stand a chance against my key. I opened my box in less than 30 seconds. Not sure what all the fuss is about.
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That is a good question. But mine was very difficult to open, I was surprised by it.
When I turned it on, it had my email and name there, I only had to enter my password.
Somehow it knew that unit was for my account.
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If you ordered from Google Play, there was an option to add your Google account before shipping.
The outer sleeve on mine was extremely tight, tight, tight! But the box itself was a breeze. A perfect unit inside. Loving it.
Hey guys. Quick question. I was just wondering if anyone knows a way or an app that can lock the Nexus 7 and unlock it as well? I've only had my Nexus 7 for a few days and even though i love it, the lock/unlock button above the volume rockers seems very flimsy and i fear that it may break or stop working one day.
does anyone know a way of unlocking and locking the tablet without using the power button? i've found plenty of apps that can lock it, but none that can unlock it. is it impossible?
Try The proximity screen off app in the play store. Or get a case with sleep/wake features.
I use Wake Up Screen to unlock with a shake, and Screen Off TL to switch off with a shake. Both apps are available in the PlayStore.
Edit: Number of shakes and strength are cutomizable.
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Try The proximity screen off app in the play store. Or get a case with sleep/wake features.
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i just bought a case right before this comment from the local best buy which had NO Nexus 7 specific cases other than universal 7'' cases.
will be going to return it with nexus in hand for a magnetic case.
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I use Wake Up Screen to unlock with a shake, and Screen Off TL to switch off with a shake. Both apps are available in the PlayStore.
Edit: Number of shakes and strength are cutomizable.
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i read reviews and how's the battery life with Wake Up Screen?
and thanks again both of you guys, for the suggestions!
Try a case with sleep/wake functionality.
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Try a case with sleep/wake functionality.
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just ordered one from Amazon ironically. coming in this friday. excited to have my nexus protected now instead of leaving it at home all day.
Is there any way to disable the magnetic wake feature? I bought a case off Amazon that has a magnet to automatically wake the tablet, and I've noticed that sometimes it'll turn the screen on while closed if the case is touched near the magnet. Since I plan on throwing this case in a backpack, I dont want the screen turning on often while not in use draining the battery. I'm running CM10.1, but I wouldn't mind switching roms if one had this feature.
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Is there any way to disable the magnetic wake feature? I bought a case off Amazon that has a magnet to automatically wake the tablet, and I've noticed that sometimes it'll turn the screen on while closed if the case is touched near the magnet. Since I plan on throwing this case in a backpack, I dont want the screen turning on often while not in use draining the battery. I'm running CM10.1, but I wouldn't mind switching roms if one had this feature.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVnBh3tWQJE
A short piece of shim steel should do. In the youtube comments the creator says on how to get some / jury rig some.
Found this somewhere in the Nexus 7 forums.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVnBh3tWQJE
A short piece of shim steel should do. In the youtube comments the creator says on how to get some / jury rig some.
Found this somewhere in the Nexus 7 forums.
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this person would like to DISable the magnetic wake feature.
As to how to do such a thing, I am clueless
Samzebian said:
this person would like to DISable the magnetic wake feature.
As to how to do such a thing, I am clueless
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That is the easiest method.
The alternative would be to go into the Android system and edit the way the drivers react to the response of the magnetic sleep / wake feature. This feature is built into the Android OS. The devs have expressed this can be quite dangerous and can produce unpredictable results especially if you aren't interested in debugging the issue.
I don't have the link anymore but you can definitely find it in the Nexus 7 Accessories forum where someone asked this same exact question.
Does anyone else noticed the back of their Nexus 7 being ever so slightly curved? Not that this is something that would bother me, but when I place it on a table it is able to have just enough rock to it that swiping my finger with it or plugging a cable into it will pull the device in the direction of the tension.
(Moderators, I originally put this in Q&A, but since I realized it isn't so much a Q&A thread, I put it here in general. You can delete the Q&A one)
EDIT: Video comparison I just made - http://youtu.be/EhS7-KTwn4g
I believe it is designed that way so the speakers don't sit flat.
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I believe it is designed that way so the speakers don't sit flat.
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But it is down the vertical spine of the device, not the horizontal one. Plus the speaker grills are placed on the curve of the devices edge, so laying flat shouldn't be much of a problem anyway.
Not sure then. I just tried it with mine and I don't have that problem.
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Not sure then. I just tried it with mine and I don't have that problem.
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I just made a video of it. I put the new Nexus 7 next to the old Nexus 7.
http://youtu.be/EhS7-KTwn4g
The back is indeed slightly curved... In the words of Will Graham, "this is by design"
Oh, I wasn't sure what you meant by that. I thought you meant if you pressed down on the top or bottom edge it would rock.
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Best buy just refused to exchange it and wouldn't even try another device to see if it also did it, claiming it is a design choice (clearly she was on the ASUS/Google development team). Nor would they PM with the Staples coupon after the fact (but I can understand that one). She was just very rude and dismissive.
I just laid mine down on a marble counter. It sits flat. Only the edges are tapered for the speakers. Its pretty sturdy.
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Yes! Somebody else notices. I was using my tablet in class today vertically and it kept turning horizontal. I noticed that the back isn't completely flat which is causing it to have movement when I lay it on a flat service.
Orite said:
Yes! Somebody else notices. I was using my tablet in class today vertically and it kept turning horizontal. I noticed that the back isn't completely flat which is causing it to have movement when I lay it on a flat service.
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Yeah, It might not be a huge "issue" (as the comment on my video says), but it is very annoying, especially considering I like to have the charger plugged in when I'm on it at times, and if there is any tension on the cord from where it is plugged in to where I am sitting, it will pull the tablet toward it.
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I just laid mine down on a marble counter. It sits flat. Only the edges are tapered for the speakers. Its pretty sturdy.
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Can you push it with your finger and spin it like the videos in this thread?
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Can you push it with your finger and spin it like the videos in this thread?
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Nope. Mines pretty flat. Even on my desk, nightstand, table. No spins.
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why you need it to spin...
Rahav Griffith said:
why you need it to spin...
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I don't want it to spin.
mrmartin86 said:
I don't want it to spin.
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Oh... I thought you might want to find some fun in cases,
Man! If I hadn't seen these videos I would have never noticed!
Contemplating exchanging it, but my screen is perfect and zero hardware glitches others have experienced.
Hmm...
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AacidusX said:
Man! If I hadn't seen these videos I would have never noticed!
Contemplating exchanging it, but my screen is perfect and zero hardware glitches others have experienced.
Hmm...
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I didn't really notice either until I had it plugged in and kept pulling away from me. Then I noticed it when I would swipe the screen. It really is annoying but I don't know how widespread the problem is and it is hard to gauge from the limited responses in this thread so far.
this really shows how far people are willing to go to find something to complain about..
slightly curved back that allows your device to spin freely when on a perfectly flat surface... really?
people in this world will never be happy ever.
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this really shows how far people are willing to go to find something to complain about..
slightly curved back that allows your device to spin freely when on a perfectly flat surface... really?
people in this world will never be happy ever.
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Lol... This.
I tried to replicate, but I did not experience anything like that. I'm going with it's by design. It's in my hand 99% of the time anyway so I don't care.
I bought the official flip case. It has a magnet in the front. Unfortunately Moto have used a rather powerful neodinium magnet. So, your phones magnetometer will follow the edge of the case around rather than true north!!!! This doesn't matter for gps navigation, but for on foot travel, and any augmented reality apps that use the compass this case will make the behave oddly.
I don't know what the long term effect on the phones compass will be, but I don't expect it to be good.
In addition, but for me I think it is a small risk, this magnet will be capable of damaging some computer storage mediums and possibly, wiping swipe card data...
I have no idea why they chose to use such an aggressive magnet. I can hang the phone from a metal bar with it, no problem.
Just thought I would share....
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I bought the official flip case. It has a magnet in the front. Unfortunately Moto have used a rather powerful neodinium magnet. So, your phones magnetometer will follow the edge of the case around rather than true north!!!! This doesn't matter for gps navigation, but for on foot travel, and any augmented reality apps that use the compass this case will make the behave oddly.
I don't know what the long term effect on the phones compass will be, but I don't expect it to be good.
In addition, but for me I think it is a small risk, this magnet will be capable of damaging some computer storage mediums and possibly, wiping swipe card data...
I have no idea why they chose to use such an aggressive magnet. I can hang the phone from a metal bar with it, no problem.
Just thought I would share....
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Good to know, i had my worries about this as well. Putting a magnet over the phone 24/7 didn't seem like a good idea
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Good to know, i had my worries about this as well. Putting a magnet over the phone 24/7 didn't seem like a good idea
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its great for storing your phone on the fridge door though.. wtf were Motorola and google thinking. I think I'm going to complain and see what they say
helppme said:
its great for storing your phone on the fridge door though.. wtf were Motorola and google thinking. I think I'm going to complain and see what they say
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Yes sir, you should that. It is ridiculous to make such design mistake on an official case. I was about to buy one but after reading your story I am not sure anymore. Keep us posted.
Btw; you can contact Motorola via their official app Moto Care.
Glad to know, that I am not the only one who is concerned about that magnet. By the way there are two magnets. A weak one to trigger the screen on/off and a strong magnet to keep the case closed.
After removing the strong magnet you will be able to use the compass with the cover flipped to the backside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYiSdys0zYg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Edit: The strong magnet was on the lower third, where the cut is visible.
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TIL that official Moto accessory screws up Moto phone. But look at the good side: you can now keep it on your fridge door!
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TIL that official Moto accessory screws up Moto phone. But look at the good side: you can now keep it on your fridge door!
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spoke to moto care. sent them screen shots of the magnetometer all messed up. They said they will get back to me, but no one else has reported issues... *cough* bull**** *cough...
I have noticed today that even when I remove the case, the magnetic sensor is all messed up. It seems after a week of use it has screwed up the sensors calibration (probably correctable)..
evidently, part of the cheap price is a lack of proper beta testing of the phone and accessories....
I have ordered one from amazon. Now I will sent it back. I have my concerns too so I wont even try it.
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It seems after a week of use it has screwed up the sensors calibration (probably correctable)..
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With GPS Status from Play Store you can force recalibration.
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I can also confirm this. I have a white flip case but stopped using it after a week as it got in the way. I just put it back on and sure enough my compass was exhibiting the same issue. How did they miss this?
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Recalibrating the compass with the GPS toolbox app seemed to have fix this issue for me
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I can also confirm this. I have a white flip case but stopped using it after a week as it got in the way. I just put it back on and sure enough my compass was exhibiting the same issue. How did they miss this?
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there is a small metal square on the inside of the flip cases backcase. I 'think' this is intended to shield the sensor from the magnet when the case is open. It clearly is TOTALLY inadequate to the task. I'm speculating this is what the metal square is for, as it corresponds in position exactly with one of the magnets in the case door, and this metal square is not present on the normal back case..
Simply lazy design and testing... why does it even need a magnet to stay closed :/ its like closing a book with a magnet lol, they get along fine without them!!!!
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spoke to moto care. sent them screen shots of the magnetometer all messed up. They said they will get back to me, but no one else has reported issues... *cough* bull**** *cough...
I have noticed today that even when I remove the case, the magnetic sensor is all messed up. It seems after a week of use it has screwed up the sensors calibration (probably correctable)..
evidently, part of the cheap price is a lack of proper beta testing of the phone and accessories....
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Any update from moto care?
eddiem74 said:
Any update from moto care?
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still waiting. Sent them a chaser..ill update
Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We regret that there is no possible solution. Compasses operate by magnetic field, and any interference with any compass magnet. There is no way around this.
If you are using a Motorola original case, rest assured that will not hurt your terminal. Imam to close the lid affects the compass but not strong enough to damage the terminal or delete any internal memory power. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We regret that there is no possible solution. Compasses operate by magnetic field, and any interference with any compass magnet. There is no way around this.
If you are using a Motorola original case, rest assured that will not hurt your terminal. Imam to close the lid affects the compass but not strong enough to damage the terminal or delete any internal memory power. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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I don't understand, are you saying you work for motorola? was this a response you got from motorola??
Motorola cannot release an OFFICIAL ACCESSORY!! at a premium price (£20) that causes issues for the core functionality of the device. I will press the issue with motorola until they acknowledge their mistake and resolve to provide me with a refund, equivalent compensation or a replacement back cover that doesn't cause these problems.
Imagine if you bought a New car; You bought official seat covers for your car that the manufacturer heavily marketed to you, but they make the satnav useless. Do you think any car manufacturer would ever get away with this??
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I don't understand, are you saying you work for motorola? was this a response you got from motorola??
Motorola cannot release an OFFICIAL ACCESSORY!! at a premium price (£20) that causes issues for the core functionality of the device. I will press the issue with motorola until they acknowledge their mistake and resolve to provide me with a refund, equivalent compensation or a replacement back cover that doesn't cause these problems.
Imagine if you bought a New car; You bought official seat covers for your car that the manufacturer heavily marketed to you, but they make the satnav useless. Do you think any car manufacturer would ever get away with this??
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This is the response from Motorola.
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Motorola cannot release an OFFICIAL ACCESSORY!! at a premium price (£20) that causes issues for the core functionality of the device. I will press the issue with motorola until they acknowledge their mistake and resolve to provide me with a refund, equivalent compensation or a replacement back cover that doesn't cause these problems.
Imagine if you bought a New car; You bought official seat covers for your car that the manufacturer heavily marketed to you, but they make the satnav useless. Do you think any car manufacturer would ever get away with this??
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As long as the flip shell is folded completely over (so it is flush with the back) my wife's compass works flawlessly. It's actually better than my n4. As I only have one sample to go off of I'm not saying this issue is being over hyped but it isn't always an issue
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As long as the flip shell is folded completely over (so it is flush with the back) my wife's compass works flawlessly. It's actually better than my n4. As I only have one sample to go off of I'm not saying this issue is being over hyped but it isn't always an issue
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I've tried it this way. If you fold it completely flat, and line it up to the millemeter, the compass works about 50% well. It generally adjusts to north, but it flicks back and forth between north and where the magnet is on the case. You can also see the gauss meter jumping around a lot.
I suspect the magnetic power of the magnets in the case vary a large amount they wont be very expensive ones after all..