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CM 10 and customizing the phone

Just installed Quarx remarkable cm10 rom and am shocked at how stable and useable it is. However i have a few questions and so if you know the answers help me out please.
is there a better default launcher (basically i had cm7 set up with custom icons on the apps on the home screen and also was able to fit 5 or 6 apps across the width and am wondering is there anyway i can do this now in jelly bean)?
is there anyway i can get the app drawer to scroll down instead of sideways?
how the heck do i get rid of that annoying google search bar at the top of my home screen?
why is there no dsp audio settings for bluetooth? is this a bug or something that hasnt yet been implemeted?
EDIT: Oh yes and what has happened to the ability to long press the buttons like search that will launch a custom action?
and rather than start a new thread... just in case i decide to bail back to cm7 kang will i need to install the froyo kernal first in recovery? for info purposes i am using a red lense defy and the gingerbread kernal i flashed before installing cm10 is the first time i have ever flashed a kernal.

Launcher
Use Apex Launcher..much better than the stock launcher...u can also remove the search bar in this one

Siben Nayak said:
Use Apex Launcher..much better than the stock launcher...u can also remove the search bar in this one
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thanks for that will give it a bash
anybody else know the answers to the other stuff.
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ok wow i have just installed apex launcher and i have to say it is gonna take a good evening of sorting out there are that many options. i like it. so cheers buddy.
however i am getting this horrible lag when using the phone. sometimes it is taking upwards of five seconds for the phone to acknowledge a touch. it is extremely frustrating especially coming from c7 kang when everything and i mean everything was virtually instant. not sure if this is sort of normal expected behaviour considering cm10 is only a few weeks old but if it carries on and despite the fact i love it i will be forced to return to cm7.

you can use nova launcher it is very beautiful.
dsp setting can be reached from the music player app or from google play music app
for other tweaks, you should wait for the new nightly ROMs to bring

rabe3ab said:
you can use nova launcher it is very beautiful.
dsp setting can be reached from the music player app or from google play music app
for other tweaks, you should wait for the new nightly ROMs to bring
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i can reach the dsp settings but there is no bluetooth settings or am i missing something? does the rom lag on your phone?

rockmonkey1973 said:
i can reach the dsp settings but there is no bluetooth settings or am i missing something? does the rom lag on your phone?
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for Bluetooth settings flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391 that modification sounds better than the integrated dsp.
Jelly powered.Defy

I've tried both. The latest quarx rom and now i'm on epys lates rom.
I'm use the holo launcher hd - it's optimized for jb and works perfect.
In both roms is the dsp manager present. For bluetooth settings you have to scroll right.
The ability for the buttons can be found in epys last build. I didn't found them on quarxs 08/04 build.
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marco.michel said:
I've tried both. The latest quarx rom and now i'm on epys lates rom.
I'm use the holo launcher hd - it's optimized for jb and works perfect.
In both roms is the dsp manager present. For bluetooth settings you have to scroll right.
The ability for the buttons can be found in epys last build. I didn't found them on quarxs 08/04 build.
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in your experience would you say epys is more stable than quarx.
i think part of my problem is that i used titanium back up to install a fair few apps with there data and maybe if i hadnt i wouldnt be encountering so many slow downs and lag but i hasten to add that i was already seeing it on the rom before i restored the apps so i dont want to blame it totally.
by the way i have found the bluetooth settings so thanks mate. i simply opened the app and it was there so i aint sure how i missed them first time off!!!
no you are right quarx build doesnt have the buttons set up as yet.
i may do a wipe and start again and may even try epys build but epy seems to be busy with other things and i dont want to be using a rom that is no longer supported. if i do i will give holo launcher a bash although i am mighty impressed with apex. already i have been able to set up the homescreen as before and the app drawer is back to one long vertical scrolling list. so we are getting there.
what i dont seem to notice is any sort of hwa going on in fact my experience is the phone runs a lot choppier and slower than when i was using cm7.
another alternative is to go back to cm7 and use one of the ics themes which in all honesty doesnt seem like a bad option to me. i will decide over the weekend when i have some time to play around. thankfully thanks to the recovery it is pretty painles to switch between builds once you have set them up.

AnTerNoZ said:
for Bluetooth settings flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391 that modification sounds better than the integrated dsp.
Jelly powered.Defy
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hmm that looks great cheers mate. i will give that a try some time very soon. dont know how i missed that... thats what happens when you stop keeping up to date with development for a few months. once i had skanks cm7 installed and the phone just ran so so so well i just ceased to pay any attention to what was happening.
not read past the initial post but there it says it is for ics but i am taking it is also compatible with jelly bean?

rockmonkey1973 said:
...thats what happens when you stop keeping up to date with development for a few months.
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we've now had an stock recovery that's flash all zip include custom ROM. have a method to flash custom ROM with rsd light. and all bl can be rooted now.
[sarcasm]no 'big' change [/sarcasm]
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not read past the initial post but there it says it is for ics but i am taking it is also compatible with jelly bean?
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I'm running Epsylons 06.08 build and it worked :thumbup:
Jelly powered.Defy

ok i can only imagine i have screwed something up using titanium back up because the lag is actually making the phone unuseable. i simply havent had time to fix it but i will have tomrrow and the first thing i am gonna do is a full wipe. i think i am also going to try running both epys and quarx and also use both the froyo and gingerbread kernals and see which combination works best. i am also going to remove titanium back up. if it cant handle restoring user apps and the data between platforms then it is of no use to me because google will reinstall all the apps on its own.
so i must have simply screwed it up because nobody would use the rom if it was as bad as it is on my phone. i also dont like the no wifi tethering deal. that is something that is extremely handy and if it doesnt work then even if i can get cm10 running smooth as silk then i will most likely not use it as a daily. another bug bear is the lack of flash support. i use the iplayer a lot and the fact that one needs flash to use it means jelly bean may be a step too far. i guess i want to get it running properly because it annoys me when things dont work right and by my very nature i am forced to try to fix it (it is almost a genetic defect of mine). however as i say if i cant use wifi tethering and flash then i probably wont run it as the rom i use daily.
does anyone know if ics is the same? is wifi tethering also broke with cm9?

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....does anyone know if ics is the same? is wifi tethering also broke with cm9?
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in CM10 u can use some tehter-app from PlayStore, someone in dev thread say it worked. CM9 is the same as CM10 for me with tethering, but I really don't use it more than twice in three month.
titanium backup is bad if u restore more than the apk on CM10 nightlys, it totally ruins the system if u came from other ROM, had the same issue. I use it for apps that not from PlayStore, it's ok for that.
Jelly powered.Defy

right installed the froyo kernal today with the latest 08/08/2012 nightly for the mb525 and i have to say there is a world of differnce. it is now running pretty damn silky and although it is lacking one or two things it is quite amazing for a build only 3-4 weeks in development. tomorrow (was super busy today) i am gonna give the ics builds a crack and also the gingerbread kernal cm10. i will then decide which one to keep.
obviously i didnt use titanium for squat diddly which i think helped.
i did try barnacle wifi tethering before and it didnt work but then again so many of my apps didnt work after the restore that it may have been that. i will give it another bash tomorrow.
really like the defy recovery app. not used this before and it makes managing roms and backups pretty sweet eh. have to say i am impressed with the level of development still going into this phone despite it being quite long in the tooth. i would have changed it months ago but there isnt anything out there built quite like it. if only moto would upgrade it make it slightly thinner, give us a better camera, a dual core snapdragon 1.5 cpu and a 4 inch screen but keep the same thin profile bezel and superb build quality and i would buy it tomorrow! i did for a week trade it for an atrix which at the time was the flagship but i sold it and bought another defy because the build quality was just totally second rate compared to the defy.
come on moto i can live with your locked bootloader and non existent support (assuming the same old same old lot of devs also came along for the ride). just give us a decent updated version sit back and watch the coin roll in.

ok i can confirm that barnacle does work and that is me sold on this rom and will now use it as my daily.
decided against trying ics because it isnt gonna get an official cm release for the defy (i dont think) and even if it does all the work is now taking place on cm10 so it doesnt make sense to drop down a release.
have to say i used the defy rom updater for the first time today. talk about being spoilt. man that app is just so damn good. i was able to back up my phone and update to the latest nightly and i didnt have to do anything in recovery... it even rebooted the phone for me!!! super stuff.

Is anyone with wifi problem?

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Is anyone with wifi problem?
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need a bit more info mate. what is the wifi problem? in general i have no wifi issues it connects to my network and reconnects when the phone is turned on and stays connected when i am using it. so i dont.
i have decided to stay with the side swipe for the app drawer instead of going back to one long list. it makes a refreshing change.
i have also been discovering that on many apps there is a side swipe to get quick access to the next bit. the classic mistakes i have made are with the dsp manager and es file explorer. i was touching the tabs at the top instead of just swiping the screen left and right. the more i try this the more i see many apps have implemented the same useability.
another real palm job is the alarm. i have for years been tapping the plus and minus sign to set the right hour and minutes in the alarm. recently i discovered that i could simply swipe it down or up. quite mad really that i have wasted so much time without realising it.
cm10 is now running well with next to no issues. what a difference a wipe and totally clean install make.

Removing Google Search Bar
You can remove the persistent google search bar by going to Settings>Launcher>Homescreen and deselecting the Search bar option.

Hello.
I've been testing JB during this week, and I would like to know a way to remove the config button from the notifications screen, because sometimes the clear all notifications button is not visible or accesible. Is there a way to do that?
Thanks :cyclops:

[Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)

Nexus 7 32GB is my first android device. Before I bought it, most people were saying that android is finally smooth, project butter and so on. But that's not the case here. I'm on 4.2.2 stock, have currents sync disabled, my storage is only half full, and my Nexus is starting to get on my nerves.
- screen rotation takes exactly 4 seconds, no exception.
- apps sometimes freeze, forcing me to force close them or even reboot occasionally.
- even some simple games, like Dragonvale, run like stop motion in certain segments.
- when I install ANY app, it seems that android service responsible to put icon on my home screen takes 100% CPU time for 10-15 seconds or so.
- when there are app updates, my nexus is unusable. Takes 10+ seconds for any action.
Say what you want about windows phone, but that thing flies. Am I maybe spoiled by it's buttery smoothness so android by comparison irritates me, or is there really something wrong with my Nexus? I already did hard reset once, early on. It did not help. Should I try again? If so, what backup solution is the easiest?
I know I might be asking a lot and that there are threads about this already, but info is scattered, and there are numerous contradicting opinions and advices. Basically I am just not sure if this is how it's supposed to be, or should I try something.

The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Terepin said:
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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How do I detect a rouge app? Task manager? Can you recommend one?
It was slow to start with. Disabling currents sync did not help. And I did do reset in the first few days. Did not help.
Now, it's just even more slower. Perhaps by as much as 50% in some actions, if I can put a number on a subjective impression.

Dr.Molestratus said:
Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?

d.a.v.o.r said:
Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Well if you want better performance... ROMs and kernels are the things to mess with.
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You should probably flash a ROM/kernel for best performance. But if you still don't want to mess with ROMs, reflash the stock rom and reroot it. That's what helped me.

I've had some issues with my phone lagging during/after app update, and i've only recently nailed down the culprit. Turns out it was the Root Uninstaller app that was making backups of older versions of the apps during the update, it ceased after i turned off the option in it's settings (or just uninstall). My guesstimate would be that you have some app that is doing just that. Because my own n7 doesn't noticeably lag even if i try to update many (as much as 10) apps at the same, which usually kills my single-core SGSL into a reboot shortly after trying this.

I think 4.2 is just buggy. It flies for me sometimes and on some devices, and sometimes it crawls horribly. Maybe the next android version will fix this, maybe not
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This helped me a little (If you don't use Currents then this could help)
1. Go to Settings > Apps > All (swipe right 2 times) > Currents
2. Click "Force Stop"
3. Click "Disable"
It should be now fixed for some of it. Like the earlier posts suggest, maybe reflashing stock ROM or installing a kernel (once you're comfortable) will help for sure.

It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.

AW: [Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)
If you're having a lot of apps installed you can get ram problems. Some apps are running in the background even if they don't need to. If you wanna know which apps those are simply go to apps and swipe to the second panel. There you can see which asps are running in the background .You should delete them. If you don't want to do that simply download the app Greenify
(You should have more than 200mb free)
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Entropy generator, I just use pimp my ROM, even on stock rooted.
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I'm on paranoid 2.54 which is 4.1 and it feels faster than cm10.1 I miss 4.2.2 fonts but I'll see If I get it.
BR.

d.a.v.o.r said:
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.

Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Wilks3y said:
Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
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Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.

d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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It honestly shouldn't lag like that. Even bone stock.
One thing you can do right away is go into developer settings (click 7 times on Build Number in About Tablet to enable) and change all animation settings to.5 or to none.
DL Root Checker, or just try to use any root app to see if you actually do have root. Even with the wonderful toolkits (which will also save your bacon if you get into a bootloop) getting root to stick can be tricky...you may have to run it a couple of times.
But the best results will come if you flash a custom rom and kernel. if you like a tweaked stock experience, try CleanRom Inheritance. It uses the Aroma installer, so it's very easy and customizable. It can be found under Android Development.

d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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You can use titanium backup. It there others like carbon. But titanium has been around the longest and it's my preferred way. Requires root, and it should warn you at start up if you aren't rooted correctly.
I would do as others suggested and just restore basic apps after factory reboot and re root. Then slowly restore others to see if you notice other problems along the way.
Also, if you didn't know. You can install kernels without wiping tablet and changing the whole Rom. I would definitely try that eventually too.
One more thing to note. Don't judge android on chrome (not that you mentioned it, but I know a lot of newbies have). It's one of the slowest browsers. It has tons of great features which I love, but do slow compared to most others. I wish I wasn't so addicted to its syncing.

Thanks to everyone on advices.
1) root checker says I do not have proper root. Now that I think about it, I did update my Nexus 7 from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I guess that also removed root.
2) I will reset. I don't really have any messages or photos or app data that is not already in the cloud that I need to backup.
3) I'll try to gradually install everything app by app to see if it's a rouge app.
4) I'll than revive this thread with my results. Though I doubt I'll get to doing all that in the next few days.
Again, thanks everyone!

[Q] Stock is way too laggy but I want its features

Okay, so I'm looking for a little input here because I am torn. I was an avid flasher and supporter of the AOSP ROMs until I got this phone. I used CM and PA and a few others just to see what I liked but none of them offered quite the features and stability of pure stock but this is where I am really struggling.
For the longest time this phone was super fast. It did what I wanted it to do when I wanted it to do it. I'm not much for the keyboard so I installed swype and that seems to be where my problems began. Since day 1 the messaging app was always a disappointment. It would lag, not open fast or when it did open in a message i would have to close it to get to the messages list. When I added swype to the mix it just sucked. The touch responsiveness was late and slow, a lot of times the keyboard would freeze up and i wouldn't be able to do anything for a minute until it would unfreeze. I just don't see why it's doing this because it has 2 gb of ram and a beast processor.
Anything you guys could add to help? I love the phone but it's getting to be about as slow to use as the Droid Eris

Pretty sure this thread is supposed to be in the Q&A section. Don't be surprised to see it closed. Regarding your issue, to say your G2 is as slow as the Eris is a bit of a stretch. I don't doubt you're experiencing some lag, but saying it's as slow as a phone with 288MB RAM and clocked at 528 MHz is a little ridiculous.
You say you encountered these problems after installing Swype. Perhaps get rid of that keyboard. I personally use the stock Google keyboard as it can be downloaded from the Play Store.
And seeing as you're rooted, perhaps look through the development section for your particular variant to see if there are any optimized stock-based ROMs that might help speed things up.

Flex rom + g.lewarne kernel.
More feature and faster

What stock features? IR Blaster and Camera are available. Knock wake works.
I only used stock about 24 hours, but I didn't see much else compelling.. Quick Slide? Ugh. Quick Apps or whatever? Useless. Navbar customization? CM or AOKP can do that, etc.

If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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its pretty much android that is lagging. not much you can do about it.

Sean473 said:
If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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I feel as though I shouldn't have to clear ram considering there is 2GB of it.
And even though there is that much ram shouldn't android manage that in the background.
I do realize that TRIM isn't implemented in android until 4.3 but still...

khaytsus said:
What stock features? IR Blaster and Camera are available. Knock wake works.
I only used stock about 24 hours, but I didn't see much else compelling.. Quick Slide? Ugh. Quick Apps or whatever? Useless. Navbar customization? CM or AOKP can do that, etc.
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It's more or less the camera that I really want. The aosp one is so minimalistic and lacking features but all of the ported lg cameras have features that don't work or are baked out of it to make it work. I also really enjoy knowing my phone can work 100% of the time without SOD's and no GPS (I do a lot of traveling in my free time). I need to know that if I am stranded in a town I don't know of I can pull out my G2 and call someone without any feedback or echoes and no drops in data

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It's more or less the camera that I really want. The aosp one is so minimalistic and lacking features but all of the ported lg cameras have features that don't work or are baked out of it to make it work. I also really enjoy knowing my phone can work 100% of the time without SOD's and no GPS (I do a lot of traveling in my free time). I need to know that if I am stranded in a town I don't know of I can pull out my G2 and call someone without any feedback or echoes and no drops in data
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So the one feature you want, stock camera, works fine in other ROMs. I believe there is a few things disabled in it but not much. Here's the list from the stock camera thread:
No Object Tracking. You know that thing where a grid of little boxes shows up on the screen and one of them will turn green as the camera focuses? That's missing.
No Audio Zoom. It's still enabled in the UI, but I've patched out all the methods relating to it, as they caused crashes.
No transparent navigation bar.
No rotating navigation buttons.
Performance tuning - it's possible that this will run slower than it would on an LG ROM. The LG rom includes a class called
(Not on the list on the thread) - Front-facing camera may or may not work
So yeah, object tracking is really the only functional change. Autofocus works fine, just not the little green boxes. Whatever the difference is. And avoid using the front camera.
AOSP camera is minimalistic, but what features are missing? Do you really need 10 scene modes? No. Let's be realistic, the AOSP camera isn't doing well with low light or close-up flash (blows the photo) so there are problems but overall it works okay. And the ported stock camera works fine except for one minor feature.
GPS works, no call echos, no drops, no SODs etc.. I have had none of these issues on AOKP. GPS there are libraries missing from the AOKP build, but the files to flash are right in the OP. Stock camera, Quick Remote, etc all works fine too. I can't speak for any other ROMs. Rohan32's AOKP 4.3 is the ROM I'm using.

Uninstall Swype (I and other people I know have lag issues with it eventually), use the Google keyboard. Use Nova Launcher (Nova Prime would be ideal) set animations there for very fast or off, install Screen off and Lock for Knock off feature and set it with the Double tap gesture in Nova. Install LagFix for TRIM and run it. Go to developer options and turn off all animations. Hope this helps.

Xenovias said:
Flex rom + g.lewarne kernel.
More feature and faster
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use this rom with the custom g2 kernel and its fast fluid and flawless as far as I can tell

Sean473 said:
If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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Thanks. I don't have mine rooted because I want to keep stock full stock. But what I have found is that clearing the ram after shutting off the screen actually helps a lot. I have had much less lag since I did that.

Something funny happened today. I went into texts and set the auto delete to after 1000 texts. Talk about the problems that followed. My phone was completely worthless. Even after closing the app and then restarting the phone. I have over 5k texts in one conversation between my girlfriend and I so I thought that might be making the stock messaging app run slow. But the auto delete didn't work at all. After spending about 3 hours trying to get back into the app I had to turn it off before I could do anything...

mrgoodpaul said:
Thanks. I don't have mine rooted because I want to keep stock full stock. But what I have found is that clearing the ram after shutting off the screen actually helps a lot. I have had much less lag since I did that.
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if you root you don't actually lose any features you just "unlock" the phone to get extras. the only time you can lose features is when you flash a custom rom. even if you flash a kernel you don't lose anything.

tbishop91 said:
if you root you don't actually lose any features you just "unlock" the phone to get extras. the only time you can lose features is when you flash a custom rom. even if you flash a kernel you don't lose anything.
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Oh believe me I am fully aware of what rooting and flashing Roms and kernels does to my phone. I've been an avid android user for a while. I have been flashing since the eris but on this phone I always end up back at stock but I always lose info when I revert back to stock. I don't want to flash anymore. I just want my flagship phone to work like it was worth my money

Changing to row and interactive got rid of the very tiny bit of stutter I had once and a while. The "lag" is really just the the CPU waiting on the system to tell it to clock up. Stock profiles are too slow.

mrgoodpaul said:
Oh believe me I am fully aware of what rooting and flashing Roms and kernels does to my phone. I've been an avid android user for a while. I have been flashing since the eris but on this phone I always end up back at stock but I always lose info when I revert back to stock. I don't want to flash anymore. I just want my flagship phone to work like it was worth my money
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yea man I totally understand with the tmo verison I just rooted to rid myself of the bloat on the phone and it works beautifully.

bachera said:
its pretty much android that is lagging. not much you can do about it.
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That's not true at all.
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tbishop91 said:
yea man I totally understand with the tmo verison I just rooted to rid myself of the bloat on the phone and it works beautifully.
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My only issue is that I took the ota for Verizon and that broke root and I haven't found a successful exploit yet.

mrgoodpaul said:
My only issue is that I took the ota for Verizon and that broke root and I haven't found a successful exploit yet.
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yeah that sucks I broke my root but managed to down grade thro odin that sucked and was hard as hell

My M8 Experience So Far

Bit of background....
Was never much a fan of android and had just about every iphone from day dot right up until the iphone 5.
I'd Jailbroke all the way through with each device, a lot of tweaks, modding etc.
Started to get very bored of the whole iphone thing but ended up losing it anyway (left it on a train)
That's what made me think, why not try something different? So claimed on my insurance and went for a Galaxy S3.
NEVER MISSED MY IPHONE ONCE. How android has improved over the years.
Loved the functionality of the S3, although not the build so much. Had it rooted with CM, gravity box, adaway and that was me happy.
Was very excited to wait for the M8 and upgraded as soon as it came out, wasn't disappointed, LOVE IT!
Fantastic build quality, great looks, great spec. Could hardly fault it anywhere.
Decided to jump in and root it to get some of my favourite things.... That's where my disappointment began
Unlike the Samsung, everything seems really difficult to achieve, some things impossible.
Unlocking the boot loader is a fairly long process but it was fairly straight forward... Job done
Rooting, fairly straight forward... Job done
HERES WHERE THE NOT SO FUN PARTS STARTS...
Adaway, kinda works but not. Keep having problems with it being disabled on boot up and not being able to copy host files
From my research it seems to be a problem with s-off not being active although I'm not sure?
Tried the s-off process and at the end was told it won't work on my device, no one seems to know exactly why?
Another app I wanted was gsam battery, again... Kinda works but not. Standard stats work but more advanced won't.
Tried the root companion, can't get that to work at all.
Something else I really wanted was gravity box through xposed. That won't work with sense.
In order to get that I believe I have to flash another rom that dos'nt have sense, think that only leaves the google play edition rom?
That I believe also loses me blinkfeed and ultra power saver which are both pretty good.
Not sure if I need s-off for that, if I do I can't get it anyway
May main reason for root was for gravity box and adaway, one of which I kinda have and one I don't have at all.
So overall, very disappointed now
Just thought I'd share my experience as it might help others decide on purchase choices.
Also if anyone has any tips to get around my issues I'd really appreciate it

its for those reasons i now leave my phones stock. i used to customise my windows phones to get them to work but since switching to android i just use them and update the stock software when they become available. i also have an m8 and i have only installed gsam, chrome and epson printer apps. that is all i have needed so far. i seem to be able to do everything i need to do without any more apps installed. i had a htc one x previous and sensation before that and had so much stuff on them that they were litterely full of apps. i will probably end up adding heaps of apps as time goes on but the stock setup on the m8 is very powerful and capable (not to mention fast). i would recommend just installing the stock rom back and use it for a while. is there really any advantage to rooting these anyway.

boofhead said:
its for those reasons i now leave my phones stock. i used to customise my windows phones to get them to work but since switching to android i just use them and update the stock software when they become available. i also have an m8 and i have only installed gsam, chrome and epson printer apps. that is all i have needed so far. i seem to be able to do everything i need to do without any more apps installed. i had a htc one x previous and sensation before that and had so much stuff on them that they were litterely full of apps. i will probably end up adding heaps of apps as time goes on but the stock setup on the m8 is very powerful and capable (not to mention fast). i would recommend just installing the stock rom back and use it for a while. is there really any advantage to rooting these anyway.
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Xposed framework would be a huge advantage to me to get rid of annoying things, some small some not so small.
Even the volume warning really annoys me, there's no way to disable it without xposed working
Also on my s3 I moved the close all apps button to bottom left, much easier for me being a lefty

Hi, ads can be blocked through modified hosts file (you can search how to do that). Have you tried a custom ROM with root already done. I use Venom and have always used adaway, both s-on and s-off with no issues.
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bah77 said:
Bit of background....
Was never much a fan of android and had just about every iphone from day dot right up until the iphone 5.
I'd Jailbroke all the way through with each device, a lot of tweaks, modding etc.
Started to get very bored of the whole iphone thing but ended up losing it anyway (left it on a train)
That's what made me think, why not try something different? So claimed on my insurance and went for a Galaxy S3.
NEVER MISSED MY IPHONE ONCE. How android has improved over the years.
Loved the functionality of the S3, although not the build so much. Had it rooted with CM, gravity box, adaway and that was me happy.
Was very excited to wait for the M8 and upgraded as soon as it came out, wasn't disappointed, LOVE IT!
Fantastic build quality, great looks, great spec. Could hardly fault it anywhere.
Decided to jump in and root it to get some of my favourite things.... That's where my disappointment began
Unlike the Samsung, everything seems really difficult to achieve, some things impossible.
Unlocking the boot loader is a fairly long process but it was fairly straight forward... Job done
Rooting, fairly straight forward... Job done
HERES WHERE THE NOT SO FUN PARTS STARTS...
Adaway, kinda works but not. Keep having problems with it being disabled on boot up and not being able to copy host files
From my research it seems to be a problem with s-off not being active although I'm not sure?
Tried the s-off process and at the end was told it won't work on my device, no one seems to know exactly why?
Another app I wanted was gsam battery, again... Kinda works but not. Standard stats work but more advanced won't.
Tried the root companion, can't get that to work at all.
Something else I really wanted was gravity box through xposed. That won't work with sense.
In order to get that I believe I have to flash another rom that dos'nt have sense, think that only leaves the google play edition rom?
That I believe also loses me blinkfeed and ultra power saver which are both pretty good.
Not sure if I need s-off for that, if I do I can't get it anyway
May main reason for root was for gravity box and adaway, one of which I kinda have and one I don't have at all.
So overall, very disappointed now
Just thought I'd share my experience as it might help others decide on purchase choices.
Also if anyone has any tips to get around my issues I'd really appreciate it
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Sorry but i dont understand what problems you actually have or what you done/expect from your phone
Adaway and GSAM battery stats works perfectly on all custom roms for M8 without issues.
And roms like our Viper ONE M8 provides endless customization and tweaking options, can you tell me what can you do with that gravity that you cant in viper rom?

Gravity Box wouldn't work on a Sense based rom anyways. I think the main source of your issues is the lack of research (user error).

rquinn19 said:
Gravity Box wouldn't work on a Sense based rom anyways. I think the main source of your issues is the lack of research (user error).
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What parts don't? I haven't gone incredibly far into GB, but the NavBar tweaks worked for me and I'm on Viper, a Sense-based Rom.

ivicask said:
Sorry but i dont understand what problems you actually have or what you done/expect from your phone
Adaway and GSAM battery stats works perfectly on all custom roms for M8 without issues.
And roms like our Viper ONE M8 provides endless customization and tweaking options, can you tell me what can you do with that gravity that you cant in viper rom?
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I've been looking at viper actually, considering flashing tonight
I mainly wanted to move the close all apps button to the bottom left rather than top right
Stop the volume warning popping up when increasing volume
Have the pull down go straight into settings rather then having to use 2 fingers
I had all that through gravity box on my s3.
I'm guessing they won't all be on viper but as viper isn't sense gravity box should work anyway, is that right?

bah77 said:
I've been looking at viper actually, considering flashing tonight
I mainly wanted to move the close all apps button to the bottom left rather than top right
Stop the volume warning popping up when increasing volume
Have the pull down go straight into settings rather then having to use 2 fingers
I had all that through gravity box on my s3.
I'm guessing they won't all be on viper but as viper isn't sense gravity box should work anyway, is that right?
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First off: Sense isn't TouchWiz. All features of GravityBox which work on TouchWiz or AOSP wont always work on Sense.
Plus, Sense 6.0 is still VERY fresh and the devs of GB and similar are still looking into what can be done on Sense and what not.
Viper is already heavily customizable and may already feature most of the things you want. Then there is always GPE which replaces Sense with Vanilla Android most GravityBox features will work with - Tho you need to know that some exclusive features like a couple of camera things, dot view etc wont work as extensive as on Sense anymore.
Its all a matter of what you really need and what you really wanna do. I for one prefer to stick to Sense which is mostly stock (InsertCoin) with some customizable settings - keeps the system cleaner and snappier IMO.
You decide :good:

Try4Ce said:
First off: Sense isn't TouchWiz. All features of GravityBox which work on TouchWiz or AOSP wont always work on Sense.
Plus, Sense 6.0 is still VERY fresh and the devs of GB and similar are still looking into what can be done on Sense and what not.
Viper is already heavily customizable and may already feature most of the things you want. Then there is always GPE which replaces Sense with Vanilla Android most GravityBox features will work with - Tho you need to know that some exclusive features like a couple of camera things, dot view etc wont work as extensive as on Sense anymore.
Its all a matter of what you really need and what you really wanna do. I for one prefer to stick to Sense which is mostly stock (InsertCoin) with some customizable settings - keeps the system cleaner and snappier IMO.
You decide :good:
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Many thanks for the response, I will have a look into the different roms more over the weekend
I guess I was too naive, only on my 2nd ever android phone and that's from a hell of a lot of phones I've owned in the past
I guess I was thinking along the lines of a one android fits all but that's quite clearly not the case, there are lots of differences between one android phone to another

bah77 said:
Many thanks for the response, I will have a look into the different roms more over the weekend
I guess I was too naive, only on my 2nd ever android phone and that's from a hell of a lot of phones I've owned in the past
I guess I was thinking along the lines of a one android fits all but that's quite clearly not the case, there are lots of differences between one android phone to another
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Hehe well yeah, every Android phone can be quite different to each other. Its with the hardware already. On the iDevices, its all streamlined and almost everything will work on the different iPhones. Its convenient, but nothing for me - I am a modder and toy around alot, and thats where Android kicks in.
Some things on Android can be annoying, since there are much more differences in Hardware and Software among all the devices running Android, but it actually can be quite interesting to see what all the talented Android Developers come up with.
I hope you find what you are looking for. The M8 is a hell of a great device and dispite of being so new, alot of customizations are already possible.

rquinn19 said:
Gravity Box wouldn't work on a Sense based rom anyways. I think the main source of your issues is the lack of research (user error).
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Wrong, working just great with my SENSE rom.

Thread closed as it is an off-topic thread.
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Recommendation(s)

Hello. I just received my new 6P, having upgraded from a 2nd Gen Moto X. Prior to that I was a flashaholic on my S4, and S2 before that. Basically, I've been out of the Custom ROM game for a while.
I'm wondering whether to root and install custom on my Nexus, with the following goals in mind:
1. I’d like to stay very, very close to stock.
2. I'd like bug free and stable.
3. Ability to increase battery life by tweaking Doze to kick in faster.
4. Keep Android Pay and Project Fi working
Any recommendations based on that criteria? I'm currently teaching overseas, so I feel like my ability to work through bugs and issues is a bit more limited than it is when I'm back in the States.
Thanks so much.

Check out Pure Nexus.. I just installed it and so far its great!

Given that you are overseas and less able to deal with potential twists and turns of rooting and ROMing... I suggest you remain stock. This is just my opinion but I think some people are diving into rooting, ROMing, launcher-ing this phone the minute they get it because they did it on their previous carrier phone before they even give the true 6P Android experience a chance. (I don't think that applies to previous Nexus owners though)
This phone is amazing in its stock form. The only thing on your list that you won't get by remaining stock is the ability to tweak doze. Doze works quite well in its stock form. If you can charge your phone every night, I wonder if you will even find that you need to tweak doze. If you have periods where you can plug it in during the day with fast charging, there is definitely no pressing reason to tweak doze.
I know this tends to be a more root/ROM forum so my opinion here may be in the minority. I just wanted to toss out one perspective.
Hope you enjoy the phone!

Yeah, that's the thing.,.. I love stock. I do miss some minor cosmetic customisation options, but for the most part, I'm not looking to blow the whole thing up like I was on my Galaxy S phones with TouchWiz. I'm definitely leaning on staying stock over here and maybe playing around with it when we come home for the summer.

Dugan1017 said:
Yeah, that's the thing.,.. I love stock. I do miss some minor cosmetic customisation options, but for the most part, I'm not looking to blow the whole thing up like I was on my Galaxy S phones with TouchWiz. I'm definitely leaning on staying stock over here and maybe playing around with it when we come home for the summer.
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I would definitely unlock the bootloader before you get the phone set up and maybe apply systemless root, but then give stock a go for some time and see how you like it. Then maybe try adding some third party apps like Nova Launcher and Custom Quick Settings (the latter requires root). Stock MM is really very nice.

adrman said:
I would definitely unlock the bootloader before you get the phone set up and maybe apply systemless root, but then give stock a go for some time and see how you like it. Then maybe try adding some third party apps like Nova Launcher and Custom Quick Settings (the latter requires root). Stock MM is really very nice.
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I'm assuming you say unlock the bootloader now just because it wipes everything if/when I do it later?

Dugan1017 said:
I'm assuming you say unlock the bootloader now just because it wipes everything if/when I do it later?
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Yes!

Dugan1017 said:
I'm assuming you say unlock the bootloader now just because it wipes everything if/when I do it later?
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Yes, exactly. Heisenberg has a guide if you should need any help.

adrman said:
I would definitely unlock the bootloader before you get the phone set up and maybe apply systemless root, but then give stock a go for some time and see how you like it. Then maybe try adding some third party apps like Nova Launcher and Custom Quick Settings (the latter requires root). Stock MM is really very nice.
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Agreed, that's what I'd suggest, too. Once rooted, you can use NapTime to tweak Doze to kick in earlier. You can't use it's "aggressive" option, as it has a bug and kills stuff like being able to download new apps from the Play Store, but you can still tweak the times to make it kick in a lot sooner.

I followed the H guide and learnt/learned new stuff. Unlocking and ROM has allowed me to access the fun little options that stock couldn't give to me.
My personal favourites are really quite small things: battery display and clock centered.
I do wonder why though Chroma and Pure nexus are so popular compared to the rest in terms of views and responses. Surely this is an indication of worth, right? Or is it simply following the masses after those Roms were first in, first to serve?

Stock rom is great. I use Xposed and a few modules to get my customization fix!