Okay, so I'm looking for a little input here because I am torn. I was an avid flasher and supporter of the AOSP ROMs until I got this phone. I used CM and PA and a few others just to see what I liked but none of them offered quite the features and stability of pure stock but this is where I am really struggling.
For the longest time this phone was super fast. It did what I wanted it to do when I wanted it to do it. I'm not much for the keyboard so I installed swype and that seems to be where my problems began. Since day 1 the messaging app was always a disappointment. It would lag, not open fast or when it did open in a message i would have to close it to get to the messages list. When I added swype to the mix it just sucked. The touch responsiveness was late and slow, a lot of times the keyboard would freeze up and i wouldn't be able to do anything for a minute until it would unfreeze. I just don't see why it's doing this because it has 2 gb of ram and a beast processor.
Anything you guys could add to help? I love the phone but it's getting to be about as slow to use as the Droid Eris
Pretty sure this thread is supposed to be in the Q&A section. Don't be surprised to see it closed. Regarding your issue, to say your G2 is as slow as the Eris is a bit of a stretch. I don't doubt you're experiencing some lag, but saying it's as slow as a phone with 288MB RAM and clocked at 528 MHz is a little ridiculous.
You say you encountered these problems after installing Swype. Perhaps get rid of that keyboard. I personally use the stock Google keyboard as it can be downloaded from the Play Store.
And seeing as you're rooted, perhaps look through the development section for your particular variant to see if there are any optimized stock-based ROMs that might help speed things up.
Flex rom + g.lewarne kernel.
More feature and faster
What stock features? IR Blaster and Camera are available. Knock wake works.
I only used stock about 24 hours, but I didn't see much else compelling.. Quick Slide? Ugh. Quick Apps or whatever? Useless. Navbar customization? CM or AOKP can do that, etc.
If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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its pretty much android that is lagging. not much you can do about it.
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If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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I feel as though I shouldn't have to clear ram considering there is 2GB of it.
And even though there is that much ram shouldn't android manage that in the background.
I do realize that TRIM isn't implemented in android until 4.3 but still...
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What stock features? IR Blaster and Camera are available. Knock wake works.
I only used stock about 24 hours, but I didn't see much else compelling.. Quick Slide? Ugh. Quick Apps or whatever? Useless. Navbar customization? CM or AOKP can do that, etc.
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It's more or less the camera that I really want. The aosp one is so minimalistic and lacking features but all of the ported lg cameras have features that don't work or are baked out of it to make it work. I also really enjoy knowing my phone can work 100% of the time without SOD's and no GPS (I do a lot of traveling in my free time). I need to know that if I am stranded in a town I don't know of I can pull out my G2 and call someone without any feedback or echoes and no drops in data
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It's more or less the camera that I really want. The aosp one is so minimalistic and lacking features but all of the ported lg cameras have features that don't work or are baked out of it to make it work. I also really enjoy knowing my phone can work 100% of the time without SOD's and no GPS (I do a lot of traveling in my free time). I need to know that if I am stranded in a town I don't know of I can pull out my G2 and call someone without any feedback or echoes and no drops in data
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So the one feature you want, stock camera, works fine in other ROMs. I believe there is a few things disabled in it but not much. Here's the list from the stock camera thread:
No Object Tracking. You know that thing where a grid of little boxes shows up on the screen and one of them will turn green as the camera focuses? That's missing.
No Audio Zoom. It's still enabled in the UI, but I've patched out all the methods relating to it, as they caused crashes.
No transparent navigation bar.
No rotating navigation buttons.
Performance tuning - it's possible that this will run slower than it would on an LG ROM. The LG rom includes a class called
(Not on the list on the thread) - Front-facing camera may or may not work
So yeah, object tracking is really the only functional change. Autofocus works fine, just not the little green boxes. Whatever the difference is. And avoid using the front camera.
AOSP camera is minimalistic, but what features are missing? Do you really need 10 scene modes? No. Let's be realistic, the AOSP camera isn't doing well with low light or close-up flash (blows the photo) so there are problems but overall it works okay. And the ported stock camera works fine except for one minor feature.
GPS works, no call echos, no drops, no SODs etc.. I have had none of these issues on AOKP. GPS there are libraries missing from the AOKP build, but the files to flash are right in the OP. Stock camera, Quick Remote, etc all works fine too. I can't speak for any other ROMs. Rohan32's AOKP 4.3 is the ROM I'm using.
Uninstall Swype (I and other people I know have lag issues with it eventually), use the Google keyboard. Use Nova Launcher (Nova Prime would be ideal) set animations there for very fast or off, install Screen off and Lock for Knock off feature and set it with the Double tap gesture in Nova. Install LagFix for TRIM and run it. Go to developer options and turn off all animations. Hope this helps.
Xenovias said:
Flex rom + g.lewarne kernel.
More feature and faster
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use this rom with the custom g2 kernel and its fast fluid and flawless as far as I can tell
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If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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Thanks. I don't have mine rooted because I want to keep stock full stock. But what I have found is that clearing the ram after shutting off the screen actually helps a lot. I have had much less lag since I did that.
Something funny happened today. I went into texts and set the auto delete to after 1000 texts. Talk about the problems that followed. My phone was completely worthless. Even after closing the app and then restarting the phone. I have over 5k texts in one conversation between my girlfriend and I so I thought that might be making the stock messaging app run slow. But the auto delete didn't work at all. After spending about 3 hours trying to get back into the app I had to turn it off before I could do anything...
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Thanks. I don't have mine rooted because I want to keep stock full stock. But what I have found is that clearing the ram after shutting off the screen actually helps a lot. I have had much less lag since I did that.
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if you root you don't actually lose any features you just "unlock" the phone to get extras. the only time you can lose features is when you flash a custom rom. even if you flash a kernel you don't lose anything.
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if you root you don't actually lose any features you just "unlock" the phone to get extras. the only time you can lose features is when you flash a custom rom. even if you flash a kernel you don't lose anything.
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Oh believe me I am fully aware of what rooting and flashing Roms and kernels does to my phone. I've been an avid android user for a while. I have been flashing since the eris but on this phone I always end up back at stock but I always lose info when I revert back to stock. I don't want to flash anymore. I just want my flagship phone to work like it was worth my money
Changing to row and interactive got rid of the very tiny bit of stutter I had once and a while. The "lag" is really just the the CPU waiting on the system to tell it to clock up. Stock profiles are too slow.
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Oh believe me I am fully aware of what rooting and flashing Roms and kernels does to my phone. I've been an avid android user for a while. I have been flashing since the eris but on this phone I always end up back at stock but I always lose info when I revert back to stock. I don't want to flash anymore. I just want my flagship phone to work like it was worth my money
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yea man I totally understand with the tmo verison I just rooted to rid myself of the bloat on the phone and it works beautifully.
bachera said:
its pretty much android that is lagging. not much you can do about it.
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That's not true at all.
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yea man I totally understand with the tmo verison I just rooted to rid myself of the bloat on the phone and it works beautifully.
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My only issue is that I took the ota for Verizon and that broke root and I haven't found a successful exploit yet.
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My only issue is that I took the ota for Verizon and that broke root and I haven't found a successful exploit yet.
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yeah that sucks I broke my root but managed to down grade thro odin that sucked and was hard as hell
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Okay, I searched A TON on this, and while I found posts on this forum and others that address it, the accepted solution doesn't seem to be working for me. In my battery usage panel, htc.com.bgp is always near the top of the list. After the battery usage panel loads, htc.com.bgp turns into "Calendar", and when I click on it I see that there are many many different things "packaged" within it. Anyway, the consensus in other threads seems to be "clear cache for gmail and calendar" which I've done and it has no effect. It is consistently ALWAYS at the top of battery drainers, and sometimes goes above threshold (via Watchdog).
So...does anyone have any more info on what might be causing this, and how to stop it? I actually use my calendar so deleting it isn't an option, and ideally I don't want to completely disable sync, but I will if I must. There must be a way to just use the calendar as it was intended without eating up 20% of the battery usage!! Anyway, a little background on where I am in case it has an effect, I'm perm-rooted, s=off, still running stock, but with LPP as my launcher, and the only system tweaks I've made are installing faux's kernel and setting up setCPU, and doing a battery mod. But since rooting, the htc.com.bgp thing seems to have become a bigger issue. Any ideas?
Is this process strictly tied to the calendar? What happens if you're using a different calendar?
This probably isn't the answer you want to hear, but one solution is to flash a custom ROM that doesn't have any of HTC's overlay on it, but I suppose you're sticking to stock for a reason.
I'm stickin to my guns here by saying that stock Rom doesn't play well with root..
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Wow, I hadn't even considered or heard that the stock rom doesn't work well with root, but it makes sense when I think about it because ever since rooting my phone has been a little wackier than normal. Freezes up sometimes, and battery hasn't been great at all. The main reason I hadn't flashed a new rom yet was because since I'm running LPP I didn't think it really mattered what rom I was on...but I may just flash Cyanogen7 and then run LPP over that if you think it'd make that big a difference. Certainly worth a shot! Thanks for the tips guys.
Don't want to beat a dead horse, but just had to come back and say that I've flashed cm7, and so far my phone seems to be operating MUCH better, with LPP running over it. Thanks for the tip about stock not playing nice with root!!
stock rom is pretty trash with the mysense..
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stock rom is pretty trash with the mysense..
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Yes and no. Some people really like it and there are definitely some features which even I miss now that I'm on CM7 (I personally liked the contacts app on sense). What kills it for me is the framework and everything that has to run in the background in order for all that to work. I like ROMs under 100MB.
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Yes and no. Some people really like it and there are definitely some features which even I miss now that I'm on CM7 (I personally liked the contacts app on sense). What kills it for me is the framework and everything that has to run in the background in order for all that to work. I like ROMs under 100MB.
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This +1. I actually liked a lot of aspects about mysense, like the contacts app you mentioned, as well as the dialer in general. But the benefits of switching to AOSP have so far greatly outweighed the negatives. I'm happy to trade down on the dialer/contacts and a couple other things in exchange for an overall smoother, faster experience with what seems so far to be much better battery life.
I can say this is a problem for non-rooted, stock MT4G as well. Has nothing to do with root. No one has been able to identify a source of the problem or a solution from what I have found.
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I'm stickin to my guns here by saying that stock Rom doesn't play well with root..
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Nah, i seemed see more issues with gfree posted, i used visionary and the stock rom works great.
*edit: radio s-on is stock rom friendly. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9540801&postcount=29
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Okay, I'm creating this thread so that all users can post their experiences/bugs here because its annoying some of the devs when people post questions in the dev threads. So all you guys like me who need to ask questions or talk about this ROM please post here. I hope they will be kind enough here to answer everyones questions.
I flashed this ROM 3 days ago and I have to say im pretty goddamned impressed. A few words and questions.
First off, I love the stock look from 2.1. 6 Bars for signals, stock moto launcher. That has got to be the most important for me because everytime I flashed a froyo build the launcher would include just the app drawer and no dialer or message buttons like in stock 2.1. The haptic feedback is crisp and works in a few places. Like the dialer and 4 buttons below. The thing I love most about this ROM is is the built in moto LED notifications. I always missed that on the froyo builds and tried using apps like LEDme now and others but it just didnt cut it. The media button works. Its really fast and overclocked its a beauty. The only problem I found with the dialer was the number format and I dont know WHY that should be a problem for anyone. A cool thing I noticed with the dialer was you can block calls from inside the dialer. Love the stock appearance. Okay I dont know what issues you guys have with SMS. All I did was install keyboard for gingerbread longpressed the text input space and chose the input method. It replaced the stock keyboard and everything is fine. The SMS has nice solid black background compared to the grey in dexters and CB's which I assume saves battery. Also you have extra SMS options like pop ups. All apps work great and fast. Over clocked at 1000 mhz, 74 vsel it works as a charm. I use autokiller at moderate and never felt any lessening of RAM or slowing of the phone. About the APN settings yes I cant choose them but for some reason it picked up the settings itself and my data connection is active. I have an unlimited plan so its always on, for those who dont theres a power control app called switch pro you can turn off data along with another bunch of functions. Its basically an extended power control menu. It also has a nice UI. Camera works nicely and over all I just love the stock feel. I have had no signal problems its actually really good. WIFI signals are keeping well even though my router is far away and with froyo I used to get only 1 bar. Apps like Google+ work nicely.
Issues/Questions: I fastbooted into fjfalcons boot4.img. For some reason it became really slow and I had to reboot without it and now its fine. In set CPU half of my swap was active without even running any apps. I use 91 mb linux swap on my SD card like in reverends video from the old khal rom days. Besides that I want to ask about the super sleep mode button, what does it do? When do i activate it? How does it work? etc. By the way im using M7's patch with extended menu's. Umm besides that I tried installing root explorer but it already has its own korean RE, and I cant install root explorer on top because it says system app cant remove. Theres also another browser which in in korean but I just ignored that.
Besides that I have had no Issues with this ROM. Seems very solid and suitable for everyday use. I flashed directly from CB's froyo without reformatting my SD. All my apps were preserved and I had no issues booting this ROM up. I did loose the calvin bootloader img in the start which is now replaced by the official moto M and a sexy T logo after works. All in all I feel this is a keeper, after trying literally every ROM on this forum atleast 2 dozen times. Thats my review as a normal moderate user. I don't play many hardcore games and use my phone for calling, sms, browsing and photos.
Please post your opinions and experiences. And any bugs. Thanks!
How is it's speed compared to miui? does it beat miui?
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It feels like an official update from moto
If the dialer and messaging were fixed (americanized), I bet cincy bell would backtrack and call this the official update, especially with a swype keyboard.
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Just curious, does swype really feels that great? Cos im using swiftkey and i feel that i type much better there :/
I'm not a huge fan of swype. My favorite keyboard actually is the stock gingerbread keyboard. I really fly with that one.
Swype is perfect for me when it understands my words correctly.
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cancrippler said:
Swype is perfect for me when it understands my words correctly.
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Yeah, well that's kind of the issue. Sometimes works well and types fast, other times it misses my words. Too many misses makes the gingerbread keyboard my default for speed and reliability.
But Swype also lets you type normally as well as swype to type.
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How is it's speed compared to miui? does it beat miui?
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I think the speed is comparable to miui, but its way more stable with very few reboots or any other problems. Could someone comment on the battery life? I'm getting a day with low use. I flashed from the CB Froyo does that make any difference if I don't flash 2.1 Korean first. Kernel issues?
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Nice review! But how did you get LED-notifications to work? They don't work here w/o LEDmeknow.
Battery life here is somewhere between 2.1 stock and 2.2-ROMS on here.
Vistaus said:
Nice review! But how did you get LED-notifications to work? They don't work here w/o LEDmeknow.
Battery life here is somewhere between 2.1 stock and 2.2-ROMS on here.
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It was in the display options. LED Notifications and periodic notifications just like in 2.1. After I selected them I got the flashing 4 bottom LED's which would stop after a few seconds and restart every 4-5 minutes.
My battery life for me sucked bad even after calibration, so I flashed stock 2.1 signapore sbf to see if that changes anything. I heard there are kernel issues if you dont go back to stock. Also memory leaks.
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Okay, I'm creating this thread so that all users can post their experiences/bugs here because its annoying some of the devs when people post questions in the dev threads. So all you guys like me who need to ask questions or talk about this ROM please post here. I hope they will be kind enough here to answer everyones questions.!
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Im being an annoying DEV because of morons that post **** like this in a thread about a Deving from 2.1 stock to WanHu's then applying the Deved patches.
Ps..I installed wanhu straight over dex 1.3 and was working perfect straight from the start...or so I thought ...I think cos I used mybackup and saved and then restored "system settings" in the upgrade process.
Im on stock 2.1 and rooted, i use link2sd too. i also see
And on and on.... no relevance.
hellmonger said:
Im being an annoying DEV because of morons that post **** like this in a thread about a Deving from 2.1 stock to WanHu's then applying the Deved patches.
Ps..I installed wanhu straight over dex 1.3 and was working perfect straight from the start...or so I thought ...I think cos I used mybackup and saved and then restored "system settings" in the upgrade process.
Im on stock 2.1 and rooted, i use link2sd too. i also see
And on and on.... no relevance.
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Relax. He didn't say you were annoying, he respects you guys and doesn't want to annoy you in that thread.
I for one can't wait till you guys get the phone numbers fixed. This rom will rock!
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Im being an annoying DEV because of morons that post **** like this in a thread about a Deving from 2.1 stock to WanHu's then applying the Deved patches.
Ps..I installed wanhu straight over dex 1.3 and was working perfect straight from the start...or so I thought ...I think cos I used mybackup and saved and then restored "system settings" in the upgrade process.
Im on stock 2.1 and rooted, i use link2sd too. i also see
And on and on.... no relevance.
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Lol, im sorry but I didn't understand whether you're happy or pissed off about this thread. Hopefully its the former, and thanks again for all the good work!
Just a small update. I was getting really crappy battery life, so I decided to flash the stock singapore SBF and then reflash WanHu's ROM. I took it right from scratch. Root with Universal android root which is so much easier than superoneclick. I tried superoneclick though and it didnt work, maybe because i was trying to do it under MONO in linux. After that I applied the Mioz Patch!
Okay here's where the weirdness starts. First all you guys must remember that annoying ugly korean keyboard and the weird gestures keyboard in the sms, well after the sbf flash my ROM has kept its old android 2.1 keyboard WITH the original haptic feedback. This wasnt there when I flashed directly from the CB froyo. Also Im getting haptic feedback on long touch in the homescreen along with the 4 LED buttons.
Hope this helps. Im going to do some more exploring!
EDIT: Okay so the keyboard is FC on me. It was fine when I was putting in my google info
sohrab.naushad said:
Just a small update. I was getting really crappy battery life, so I decided to flash the stock singapore SBF and then reflash WanHu's ROM. I took it right from scratch. Root with Universal android root which is so much easier than superoneclick. I tried superoneclick though and it didnt work, maybe because i was trying to do it under MONO in linux. After that I applied the Mioz Patch!
Okay here's where the weirdness starts. First all you guys must remember that annoying ugly korean keyboard and the weird gestures keyboard in the sms, well after the sbf flash my ROM has kept its old android 2.1 keyboard WITH the original haptic feedback. This wasnt there when I flashed directly from the CB froyo. Also Im getting haptic feedback on long touch in the homescreen along with the 4 LED buttons.
Hope this helps. Im going to do some more exploring!
EDIT: Okay so the keyboard is FC on me. It was fine when I was putting in my google info
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I get haptic feedback with long press now over the cbw sbf. And I have 3 and a half out of the 4 flashing led's. I think he said the only thing that won't work without flashing over korean sbf was the tv out. I don't currently use tv out (no cable) but i plan too so can you test this for us bud?
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I get haptic feedback with long press now over the cbw sbf. And I have 3 and a half out of the 4 flashing led's. I think he said the only thing that won't work without flashing over korean sbf was the tv out. I don't currently use tv out (no cable) but i plan too so can you test this for us bud?
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Sure ill test it out for you in a day or two
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Lol, im sorry but I didn't understand whether you're happy or pissed off about this thread. Hopefully its the former, and thanks again for all the good work!
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Nah im not mad Bro, it's a good idea actually
Can you add some screenshots?
Just installed Quarx remarkable cm10 rom and am shocked at how stable and useable it is. However i have a few questions and so if you know the answers help me out please.
is there a better default launcher (basically i had cm7 set up with custom icons on the apps on the home screen and also was able to fit 5 or 6 apps across the width and am wondering is there anyway i can do this now in jelly bean)?
is there anyway i can get the app drawer to scroll down instead of sideways?
how the heck do i get rid of that annoying google search bar at the top of my home screen?
why is there no dsp audio settings for bluetooth? is this a bug or something that hasnt yet been implemeted?
EDIT: Oh yes and what has happened to the ability to long press the buttons like search that will launch a custom action?
and rather than start a new thread... just in case i decide to bail back to cm7 kang will i need to install the froyo kernal first in recovery? for info purposes i am using a red lense defy and the gingerbread kernal i flashed before installing cm10 is the first time i have ever flashed a kernal.
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Use Apex Launcher..much better than the stock launcher...u can also remove the search bar in this one
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Use Apex Launcher..much better than the stock launcher...u can also remove the search bar in this one
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thanks for that will give it a bash
anybody else know the answers to the other stuff.
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ok wow i have just installed apex launcher and i have to say it is gonna take a good evening of sorting out there are that many options. i like it. so cheers buddy.
however i am getting this horrible lag when using the phone. sometimes it is taking upwards of five seconds for the phone to acknowledge a touch. it is extremely frustrating especially coming from c7 kang when everything and i mean everything was virtually instant. not sure if this is sort of normal expected behaviour considering cm10 is only a few weeks old but if it carries on and despite the fact i love it i will be forced to return to cm7.
you can use nova launcher it is very beautiful.
dsp setting can be reached from the music player app or from google play music app
for other tweaks, you should wait for the new nightly ROMs to bring
rabe3ab said:
you can use nova launcher it is very beautiful.
dsp setting can be reached from the music player app or from google play music app
for other tweaks, you should wait for the new nightly ROMs to bring
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i can reach the dsp settings but there is no bluetooth settings or am i missing something? does the rom lag on your phone?
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i can reach the dsp settings but there is no bluetooth settings or am i missing something? does the rom lag on your phone?
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for Bluetooth settings flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391 that modification sounds better than the integrated dsp.
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I've tried both. The latest quarx rom and now i'm on epys lates rom.
I'm use the holo launcher hd - it's optimized for jb and works perfect.
In both roms is the dsp manager present. For bluetooth settings you have to scroll right.
The ability for the buttons can be found in epys last build. I didn't found them on quarxs 08/04 build.
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marco.michel said:
I've tried both. The latest quarx rom and now i'm on epys lates rom.
I'm use the holo launcher hd - it's optimized for jb and works perfect.
In both roms is the dsp manager present. For bluetooth settings you have to scroll right.
The ability for the buttons can be found in epys last build. I didn't found them on quarxs 08/04 build.
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in your experience would you say epys is more stable than quarx.
i think part of my problem is that i used titanium back up to install a fair few apps with there data and maybe if i hadnt i wouldnt be encountering so many slow downs and lag but i hasten to add that i was already seeing it on the rom before i restored the apps so i dont want to blame it totally.
by the way i have found the bluetooth settings so thanks mate. i simply opened the app and it was there so i aint sure how i missed them first time off!!!
no you are right quarx build doesnt have the buttons set up as yet.
i may do a wipe and start again and may even try epys build but epy seems to be busy with other things and i dont want to be using a rom that is no longer supported. if i do i will give holo launcher a bash although i am mighty impressed with apex. already i have been able to set up the homescreen as before and the app drawer is back to one long vertical scrolling list. so we are getting there.
what i dont seem to notice is any sort of hwa going on in fact my experience is the phone runs a lot choppier and slower than when i was using cm7.
another alternative is to go back to cm7 and use one of the ics themes which in all honesty doesnt seem like a bad option to me. i will decide over the weekend when i have some time to play around. thankfully thanks to the recovery it is pretty painles to switch between builds once you have set them up.
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for Bluetooth settings flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391 that modification sounds better than the integrated dsp.
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hmm that looks great cheers mate. i will give that a try some time very soon. dont know how i missed that... thats what happens when you stop keeping up to date with development for a few months. once i had skanks cm7 installed and the phone just ran so so so well i just ceased to pay any attention to what was happening.
not read past the initial post but there it says it is for ics but i am taking it is also compatible with jelly bean?
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...thats what happens when you stop keeping up to date with development for a few months.
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we've now had an stock recovery that's flash all zip include custom ROM. have a method to flash custom ROM with rsd light. and all bl can be rooted now.
[sarcasm]no 'big' change [/sarcasm]
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not read past the initial post but there it says it is for ics but i am taking it is also compatible with jelly bean?
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I'm running Epsylons 06.08 build and it worked :thumbup:
Jelly powered.Defy
ok i can only imagine i have screwed something up using titanium back up because the lag is actually making the phone unuseable. i simply havent had time to fix it but i will have tomrrow and the first thing i am gonna do is a full wipe. i think i am also going to try running both epys and quarx and also use both the froyo and gingerbread kernals and see which combination works best. i am also going to remove titanium back up. if it cant handle restoring user apps and the data between platforms then it is of no use to me because google will reinstall all the apps on its own.
so i must have simply screwed it up because nobody would use the rom if it was as bad as it is on my phone. i also dont like the no wifi tethering deal. that is something that is extremely handy and if it doesnt work then even if i can get cm10 running smooth as silk then i will most likely not use it as a daily. another bug bear is the lack of flash support. i use the iplayer a lot and the fact that one needs flash to use it means jelly bean may be a step too far. i guess i want to get it running properly because it annoys me when things dont work right and by my very nature i am forced to try to fix it (it is almost a genetic defect of mine). however as i say if i cant use wifi tethering and flash then i probably wont run it as the rom i use daily.
does anyone know if ics is the same? is wifi tethering also broke with cm9?
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....does anyone know if ics is the same? is wifi tethering also broke with cm9?
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in CM10 u can use some tehter-app from PlayStore, someone in dev thread say it worked. CM9 is the same as CM10 for me with tethering, but I really don't use it more than twice in three month.
titanium backup is bad if u restore more than the apk on CM10 nightlys, it totally ruins the system if u came from other ROM, had the same issue. I use it for apps that not from PlayStore, it's ok for that.
Jelly powered.Defy
right installed the froyo kernal today with the latest 08/08/2012 nightly for the mb525 and i have to say there is a world of differnce. it is now running pretty damn silky and although it is lacking one or two things it is quite amazing for a build only 3-4 weeks in development. tomorrow (was super busy today) i am gonna give the ics builds a crack and also the gingerbread kernal cm10. i will then decide which one to keep.
obviously i didnt use titanium for squat diddly which i think helped.
i did try barnacle wifi tethering before and it didnt work but then again so many of my apps didnt work after the restore that it may have been that. i will give it another bash tomorrow.
really like the defy recovery app. not used this before and it makes managing roms and backups pretty sweet eh. have to say i am impressed with the level of development still going into this phone despite it being quite long in the tooth. i would have changed it months ago but there isnt anything out there built quite like it. if only moto would upgrade it make it slightly thinner, give us a better camera, a dual core snapdragon 1.5 cpu and a 4 inch screen but keep the same thin profile bezel and superb build quality and i would buy it tomorrow! i did for a week trade it for an atrix which at the time was the flagship but i sold it and bought another defy because the build quality was just totally second rate compared to the defy.
come on moto i can live with your locked bootloader and non existent support (assuming the same old same old lot of devs also came along for the ride). just give us a decent updated version sit back and watch the coin roll in.
ok i can confirm that barnacle does work and that is me sold on this rom and will now use it as my daily.
decided against trying ics because it isnt gonna get an official cm release for the defy (i dont think) and even if it does all the work is now taking place on cm10 so it doesnt make sense to drop down a release.
have to say i used the defy rom updater for the first time today. talk about being spoilt. man that app is just so damn good. i was able to back up my phone and update to the latest nightly and i didnt have to do anything in recovery... it even rebooted the phone for me!!! super stuff.
Is anyone with wifi problem?
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Is anyone with wifi problem?
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need a bit more info mate. what is the wifi problem? in general i have no wifi issues it connects to my network and reconnects when the phone is turned on and stays connected when i am using it. so i dont.
i have decided to stay with the side swipe for the app drawer instead of going back to one long list. it makes a refreshing change.
i have also been discovering that on many apps there is a side swipe to get quick access to the next bit. the classic mistakes i have made are with the dsp manager and es file explorer. i was touching the tabs at the top instead of just swiping the screen left and right. the more i try this the more i see many apps have implemented the same useability.
another real palm job is the alarm. i have for years been tapping the plus and minus sign to set the right hour and minutes in the alarm. recently i discovered that i could simply swipe it down or up. quite mad really that i have wasted so much time without realising it.
cm10 is now running well with next to no issues. what a difference a wipe and totally clean install make.
Removing Google Search Bar
You can remove the persistent google search bar by going to Settings>Launcher>Homescreen and deselecting the Search bar option.
Hello.
I've been testing JB during this week, and I would like to know a way to remove the config button from the notifications screen, because sometimes the clear all notifications button is not visible or accesible. Is there a way to do that?
Thanks :cyclops:
I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
Yeah flashing a rom will do it
But try nova launcher first
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I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
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Try a custom kernel also. Most do see a smoother experience after switching. Otherwise just do a nandroid and flash some custom ones. Then can always revert back if needed.
I feel ya on this phone. I came from a 2 yr old galaxy s2 and this thing runs worse than it did. Wonder why this super spec phone is so glitchy. Time to flash rom should fix it.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
I don't want to bother with rooting so switching to Nova Launcher Prime made my S4 experience so much better.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I would think the average consumer would notice. The lag is considerable out of the box however it seems to not be 100% of the devices. Some have reported smooth operation since day one. Mine was not smooth but very laggy. The MDL didn't get rid of it and Samsung really needs to get on the stick and should be embarrassed to release the device in that state. Obviously I fixed the lag but with the specs it should of been smooth as silk out of the box. Personally I don't think Touchwiz is the issue but lack of optimization of the features.
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If it is fixable by flashing a custom kernel/rom or custom launcher (reported by some) than don't see how it can be a faulty phone. Not by way of hardware anyways.
Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
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Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
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That is why i specifically said "not bad hardware wise anyways" since many are fixing it by flashing custom.
I do see the point you are trying to make and not trying to create an argument so please don't think that. You are lucky to get a smooth running phone right out of the box. :good:
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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For starters I disabled some features. Went into svoice and disabled double tap home button. to open svoice. That adds lag to returning to home as it waits a few ms waiting for 2nd tap. Rooted of course and debloated the rom did a lot. No swype! Its laggy on everything. Plus a few days gone by and kernel & everything just setteling in. I have not flashed kernel or messed with cpu. Speeding up animations I've always felt it makes phone really glitchy so I leave it at 1.
Edit greenify also. disabled few apps like The Score that runs always. Greenify is a must. It should come stock
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I've been playing with this tablet for about a day now and I must say, I don't think I've ever had the feeling that I didn't need to Root for any reason, but this tablet just works so well out of the box that I'm not missing anything in terms of performance or applications.
I was just wondering if anyone decided to forgo the flashing/rooting/roming process because the tablet just works.
Amen brother. So good out of the box... Just tasted Google Play Music as well... Wow! Almost don't even need Nova Launcher with stock JB 4.3 haha I might not bother rooting this time round unless something really uber comes along
Well I do think it is very nice out the box. Smooth and snappy. So, yes stock is good enough for me right now. I have root and recovery, so if some custom rom comes along and it looks interesting, I may try it out. However, until that image is released, everybody is going to be pretty close to stock. The only thing I don't like is the toggles/tiles don't work like they should. I tap the wifi tile and it opens the settings for wifi, not turn it on. Not a big deal tho...
Nope. I need the custom re-boot menu and quiet hours and I can no longer live without Pie.
THe stock worked perfectly tho. I had no issues at all.
Gotta have root for the six axis app so I can game it up with my ps3 c controller
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Grievance said:
Amen brother. So good out of the box... Just tasted Google Play Music as well... Wow! Almost don't even need Nova Launcher with stock JB 4.3 haha I might not bother rooting this time round unless something really uber comes along
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I ended up installing Action Launcher just to have those shutters and widgets
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I ended up installing Action Launcher just to have those shutters and widgets
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Action Launcher doesn't count in this discussion, personally. It's basically good enough to kick the tar out of launchers on just about any framework you'll ever find (although it does look a tad out of place on my otherwise Sense-running HTC One).
Mostly yes, but I still root because I enjoy using Greenify and there are some other behaviors that require more permissions than stock Android will give us. The inclusion of the app permission manager though is quite wonderful.
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The only thing I don't like is the toggles/tiles don't work like they should. I tap the wifi tile and it opens the settings for wifi, not turn it on. Not a big deal tho...
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Long hold. They reversed the behavior from 4.2. Short tap = settings, Long tap = toggle on/off. Quite honestly, I prefer it in the 4.3 way better. I really don't turn off WiFi or Bluetooth, and having to go settings -> wireless -> bluetooth to get to the bluetooth settings was a bit much.
I root for the couple of apps that need it, but I run stock otherwise. Did on my original N7 as well.
No stuck sucks..... waste...
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No stuck sucks..... waste...
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Thank you for that brilliantly enlightening post.
I am happy with my stock setup right now. I am unlocked and rooted though. I also tried a couple of kernels but I am back to stock kernel. Same with ROMs. I will continue trying new ROMs but will keep using stock for now. My ultimate ROM will be a stable/clean ROM with Tablet UI.
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Thanks. You are a shining example of conversational excellence.
Stock rom will be good enough until all if not all issues are resolved with the CM. Till then, ijust have my N7 rooted for titanium back up and other misc apps that require root.
Stock is good enough for my needs, but I installed CM anyway just to get that little extra
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Running stock + Root + Extra Power Menu
At least right now that is good enough since its so quick. I'd like to try out other roms or have a good kernel but going to wait til more testing is done with what is out there and get some of the bugs worked out as I've tried them but get mixed results for performance and stability. Right now stability is key and performance is very good as is stock, but more is always better, in due time
I find I miss the little things CM had. For example when downloading. In stock the arrow stays there constantly lit, it doesn't do the animation.
Thing is, it might look and feel smooth, but it can always get better. Rooting and custom ROMS just simply allow the further enhancements, customization, smoothness, and potential to save battery life. I really don't see any reason not to Root/use custom ROMS for any case as long as your comfortable with the process. Maybe if the device was used for business i could understand that maybe, but for personal usage why not take advantage of whats out there instead of settling for less? It's not like it voids your warranty anyways when you can always restore it to stock before turning it in.
To be honest I cant see how anyone can live without some of the great things that require root
Linaro/03 optimized kernels
Overclocking
PER APP DPI
Trickstermod
Rom Toolbox
Lux autobrightnes (If you read books on this puppy it's a must)
Fully featured equalizer - seriously this needs to be universal on all devices
SD Maid
Titanium backup
Custom toggles, and AOKP ribbon controls
Custom boot animations
...Stickmount (don't you need root for this?)
And thats just off the top of my head stuff that I personally use all the time. So I guess most of that stuff could be run on a "stock" setup, but where is the fun in that. What is the point in investing in suck an awesome dev device, and not loading up on the fantastic tools that have been made possible through the hard work of XDA's members?
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I find I miss the little things CM had. For example when downloading. In stock the arrow stays there constantly lit, it doesn't do the animation.
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Try a different browser, dolphin is awesome, and shows you tons of details when you download files. The notification icon itself is very unobtrusive.
Except that recent versions of dolphin have made it horribad. I found it so slow as to be unusable and have moved to chrome. Dolphin also force quits on my phone all the time for no apparent reason. Used to love it.
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