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This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
get a warranty, yeah its a possibily. And yes every phone has issues. I LOVE my atrix and would not trade it for any other phone at that time. Every batch of phones are going to contain a bad set. Be happy its your motorola Atrix with its touchscreen, and not your Toyota breaks.
Ugh first world problems.
netter159 said:
get a warranty, yeah its a possibily. And yes every phone has issues. I LOVE my atrix and would not trade it for any other phone at that time. Every batch of phones are going to contain a bad set. Be happy its your motorola Atrix with its touchscreen, and not your Toyota breaks.
Ugh first world problems.
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This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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.... you lost your warranty.... cause you unlocked it? If that's the case, you do realize that unlocking/rooting has to be proven to be the cause of the issue, right? If you rooted and unlocked your phone, and the screen has taken a crap.... then i don't see any possible way they can deny a claim. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. It'd be like buying a new intake for your car, your radio take a sh*t, and they'd say "Nope... you replaced your engine intake, so your warranty is void and you have to pay for the replacement". It can't be done.
As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.
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As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.
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zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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It sounds like something you flashed screwed up your PDS partition. If you have a backup of it, try restoring it.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649
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.... you lost your warranty.... cause you unlocked it? If that's the case, you do realize that unlocking/rooting has to be proven to be the cause of the issue, right? If you rooted and unlocked your phone, and the screen has taken a crap.... then i don't see any possible way they can deny a claim. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. It'd be like buying a new intake for your car, your radio take a sh*t, and they'd say "Nope... you replaced your engine intake, so your warranty is void and you have to pay for the replacement". It can't be done.
As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.
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Can't you reflash your phone and relock it?
got it in canada before it came out from another country, called motorola and they said I have no warranty since I'm not in the country I bought it from. not related to unlocked/flashing.
I accept responsibility for not having the warranty, it's my fault. I just want to warn people that there is an issue with a (albeit probably small) subset of atrix's produced.
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got it in canada before it came out from another country, called motorola and they said I have no warranty since I'm not in the country I bought it from. not related to unlocked/flashing.
I accept responsibility for not having the warranty, it's my fault. I just want to warn people that there is an issue with a (albeit probably small) subset of atrix's produced.
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Looks like it's time for a vacation to the states.
As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!
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As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!
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The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...
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The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...
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i use the 1.3 ghz kernel because between my 5 screens full of widgets and my live wallpaper, the 1.1 ghz kernel caused me to have a slight lag after changing screens. 1.3 ghz kernel gives me a completely smooth experience, no lag anywhere. my phone doesn't overheat either which happened in earlier versions of the kernel.
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The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...
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Sounds great! Will probably take the plunge next week or sooner, just itching to try it! I'm used to the fingerprint unlock for ages now, don't know if it will feel the same without it (for now!) Battery life on Motoblur crap is not good for me, although it has constant 3g and Wifi at home with sync 24/7 and i do heavily use it. Actually, scratch that, the battery is still awesome for how much i use it!
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As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!
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if your cousin is happy with the phone then i'm happy for him. but i didn't have a good experience with it. all i'm doing is sharing my thoughts, no need to get defensive.
i also experienced this weird grey ring that appears about 1mm away from the screen. it has steadily gotten worse over the last 3 months.
tried the PDS partition fix, didn't do anything. thanks for the suggestion though.
zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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Nice story. Thanks for sharing.
Good bye
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ITT people who think their ego is under attack because of a phone.
zeotrope said:
ITT people who think their ego is under attack because of a phone.
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Actually it looks like you're the one whose feelings got hurt. First, your post's title "Warning: shoddy touchscreen - phone unusable"? Is this your phone or the Atrix, in general? Second, you warn who? Somebody who might buy this phone at a full price from another country and doesn't have warranty because of that?
And then you end your cry with "You better get warranty on this phone, or better not buy it" crap... because of...? From what I know any Atrix comes with 1 year full manufacturer's warranty so that shouldn't be a concern.
If you're having problems with your phone, just say it that way "my Atrix is crap". I'm perfectly fine with mine the way it came out of the box, afterall it's just a phone I'll probably change in a year or so.
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Actually it looks like you're the one whose feelings got hurt. First, your post's title "Warning: shoddy touchscreen - phone unusable"? Is this your phone or the Atrix, in general? Second, you warn who? Somebody who might buy this phone at a full price from another country and doesn't have warranty because of that?
And then you end your cry with "You better get warranty on this phone, or better not buy it" crap... because of...? From what I know any Atrix comes with 1 year full manufacturer's warranty so that shouldn't be a concern.
If you're having problems with your phone, just say it that way "my Atrix is crap". I'm perfectly fine with mine the way it came out of the box, afterall it's just a phone I'll probably change in a year or so.
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no need to get so emotional. my atrix is crap. i'm letting people know that some of these phones have an issue. it's probably a small percentage, but they should be wary if they are getting it with no warranty. i'm trying to help people out.
i'm not sure why it matters so much to you. if yours works fine then i'm happy for you. but i had a lot of issues and other people have as well.
The issue with the touchscreen going wonky is caused by a corrupt PDS partition. There's a thread with a PDS image that you can fastboot over to your phone if you didn't back up your PDS partition.
Happened to me when I was jumping around from ROM to ROM constantly. Lost use of the capacitive buttons and the touchscreen was completely uncalibrated. To make your life easier, just don't sbf back and lose your software unlock. I was not able to fastboot to the PDS after sbf until I did the unlock again even though my phone was already unlocked.
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The port on Kindle Fire i believe broke, won't charge and is not recognized by my computer. Amazon is sending me a replacement one and i have to send them mine but i cannot access adb or superoneroot to UNROOT it. What can i do? Battery is less than 9%.
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The port on Kindle Fire i believe broke, won't charge and is not recognized by my computer. Amazon is sending me a replacement one and i have to send them mine but i cannot access adb or superoneroot to UNROOT it. What can i do? Battery is less than 9%.
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Totally forgot I that app installed. Do you think i need to get rid of anything else? Like Market?
Why don't you just reset to factory, which should wipe it clean?
NOTE: I haven't done this whilst rooted, but pretty sure it gets you back to a pretty clean install. What's the worst that could happen?!
That would totally work i'm sure, i need %40 battery tho and i have under %5 left. I unrooted it and got rid of the apps that use root. Hopefully they don't wanna be assholes about it. They send you a replacement one and you send yours back. I can't imagine they are going to ask for theirs back if they discover mines rooted? Has anyone heard of that happening?
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That would totally work i'm sure, i need %40 battery tho and i have under %5 left. I unrooted it and got rid of the apps that use root. Hopefully they don't wanna be assholes about it. They send you a replacement one and you send yours back. I can't imagine they are going to ask for theirs back if they discover mines rooted? Has anyone heard of that happening?
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Yeah, figured your battery would be low by now! But if you think about it, if the USB is broken and you run it down to 0%, how are they going to know it's rooted before they send you a new one?!
No but I heard of them charging a fee if something is wrong with the one you send back and it is clearly not something they did wrong but something the user did.
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Yeah, figured your battery would be low by now! But if you think about it, if the USB is broken and you run it down to 0%, how are they going to know it's rooted before they send you a new one?!
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I hope your right!
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No but I heard of them charging a fee if something is wrong with the one you send back and it is clearly not something they did wrong but something the user did.
If i do have to pay a fee hopefully it's not to ridiculous. I told them it wouldn't charge and that's the problem i reported so hopefully it all works out.
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My Kindle died so we'll just have to wait a see. Appreciate all the replies. Thanks around for you guys. Happy to see that i read this forum all the time and when i run into a problem people are their to help me out.
CrackMonkey91 said:
No but I heard of them charging a fee if something is wrong with the one you send back and it is clearly not something they did wrong but something the user did.
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I wouldn't be too worried about it. Amazon are pretty great when it comes to returns. They don't tend to ask too many questions, and as it's a hardware failure (or so it would seem), then I think they will look at the return information, plug it in, see it doesn't charge/power up and then send you another one. If there are no signs of visible damage, I think you'll be fine. But, what are your other options right now in any case? You're still in warranty, just take the plunge.
Stupid question time, but I'm presuming that you've tried different cables, stock charger etc.?
Ya. It was charging on the couch and fell a few feet onto the carpet cable first. Bent the charger and bit and I'm assuming damaged the port on the kindle. Tried a few different cords and got nothing.
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Are they replacing it under extended warranty or just regular warranty?
just under regular warranty
Shouldn't you be buying a new one? It's not their fault you broke it is it?
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unrelated but may be useful info.
i bought 2 fires at best buy and bought extended accident ins. on both. The representative told me that there was no reason to buy it for both since they "don't keep track of the serial numbers" and "only look to see you have the insurance on one"
I still got it on both just in case there is a V2.0 next year and i have to use it on both. I'm sure more dishonest people could figure out how to game the system.
Got a quick question.
My KF was not working but now it's fine, Amazon already sent me a new KF. If I send my original KF back and use the new one, will they give me a hard time about the original KF not being broke once they receive it?
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Got a quick question.
My KF was not working but now it's fine, Amazon already sent me a new KF. If I send my original KF back and use the new one, will they give me a hard time about the original KF not being broke once they receive it?
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Did you get the new one yet? Personally, I'd send the new one back to them, and keep your existing one. They *may* give you a hard time about it, if you sent them a working one, but it depends on their returns process, and how closely they are looking at these things.
usb loose already
I got the kindle fire on the 21st,, and yesterday the 26th it stopped charging, kinda. the USB port is loose. I used it a lot in bed watching movies and had it plugged in so I guess it was used a bit more than usual for less than a week and the charing port is broken? Has anyone else had aproblem like this? I'm just afraid this is something that will continue to happen until they stop replacing it. Also my battery takes 6 hours to charge and lasts about 2 with the wifi on and doing stuff. is this normal too? Do I just have a lemon?
Hard to quantify what you are getting compared to others without a real idea of what it is you are doing.
If you are playing games a lot, then yes, the battery will go down faster.
Mine lasts about a day, day 1/2 with normal use. I rarely play games on it though, mostly network surfing/reference etc... with WiFi forced on all the time.
I only charge it when it is getting low and don't top off.
As for the USB plug, if you don't take care, any device will have problems with the USB charging port.
I've had my Kindle Fires since they started shipping. Got it the day they started shipping.
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I got the kindle fire on the 21st,, and yesterday the 26th it stopped charging, kinda. the USB port is loose. I used it a lot in bed watching movies and had it plugged in so I guess it was used a bit more than usual for less than a week and the charing port is broken? Has anyone else had aproblem like this? I'm just afraid this is something that will continue to happen until they stop replacing it. Also my battery takes 6 hours to charge and lasts about 2 with the wifi on and doing stuff. is this normal too? Do I just have a lemon?
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I think you have a lemon. I would call and talk to CS about it. It should last a lot longer than 2 hours. I think it got over 5 hours in video playback tests (streaming video).
As for the OP, Amazon offers an extended warranty that includes accident protection for 50 bucks (I think, might be 40), seems like something you should add. Probably going to add it to all 4 of mine as well. 2 years of not having to worry about it.
Yea I understand all of that, but I'm just onderin if it's an issue that will come up often. I don't really have my own computer at the moment, so I've been using it for music and movies. I had the same thing happen to my cellphones but that was after years and a lot of abuse. But if this happened after only 5 days it will happen again eventually. I'm just wondering if this is an issue all the KF have or maybe i just have a lemon. the port itself was loose in the case when I got it,, but all that play is why it's not working now. I guess I'm trying to figure out if I can get one that isn't loose right off the bat or if they're all a bit loose.
The E-ink kindles are fantastic and don't have this problem at all (and I tend to do more reading when I can't screw around)
I guess i'm just hoping it's a lemon, so I can have another.
I'm new here so I'm hoping somebody can help me. My kindle fire got wet about a week ago and stupid me the first thing I did was wipe it down and turn it on to make sure it still worked. It did at that time and still a few hours later although the battery had died. Upon recharging it no longer worked. First it was stuck in the yellow triangle mode...then alternated between that and the kindle fire logo. My computer would recognize it for a second then the kindle would reboot and it was gone. I researched for days and tried so many things and nothing worked. The sd card cannot be mounted, it's like it disappeared so I can even do anything via TWRP. NOW it is stuck in a total BLUE kindle fire logo boot and doesn't ever stop!
Have I destroyed my kindle or can it be fixed via the factory cable?
Please help me
I'm assuming it was fine before the water incident. Maybe send it back to Amazon and see what they think? You never know, they might exchange one for you.
Otherwise, you can always sell it on eBay as is, and might even get a good price for it. Just make sure the starting bid price is reasonable, as not many people are going to bid for it, unless they are technical people who reckon they can fix it up and resell it.
A factory cable is unlikely to fix it, as it is obviously a hardware problem. Maybe a short in circuits or something. Your biggest mistake was that you turned it on as soon as you wiped it down. How long was it in the water? If it had any water inside it at all, you should have shut it down completely and let it dry out somewhere with good air circulation for at least a day.
are you running ICS?
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I'm assuming it was fine before the water incident. Maybe send it back to Amazon and see what they think? You never know, they might exchange one for you.
Otherwise, you can always sell it on eBay as is, and might even get a good price for it. Just make sure the starting bid price is reasonable, as not many people are going to bid for it, unless they are technical people who reckon they can fix it up and resell it.
A factory cable is unlikely to fix it, as it is obviously a hardware problem. Maybe a short in circuits or something. Your biggest mistake was that you turned it on as soon as you wiped it down. How long was it in the water? If it had any water inside it at all, you should have shut it down completely and let it dry out somewhere with good air circulation for at least a day.
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are you running ICS?
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what does that have to do with anything?
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are you running ICS?
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Yeah that's a valid question. If you drop the Kindle in water and it's running ICS, it can get damaged. The best water protection comes with Jellybean. Jellybean prevents the water from leaking in and messing up the code. smh.
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Yeah that's a valid question. If you drop the Kindle in water and it's running ICS, it can get damaged. The best water protection comes with Jellybean. Jellybean prevents the water from leaking in and messing up the code. smh.
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i dont care who you are, thats funny right there
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i dont care who you are, thats funny right there
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You know? I have to agree with you
jji7skyline said:
I'm assuming it was fine before the water incident. Maybe send it back to Amazon and see what they think? You never know, they might exchange one for you.
Otherwise, you can always sell it on eBay as is, and might even get a good price for it. Just make sure the starting bid price is reasonable, as not many people are going to bid for it, unless they are technical people who reckon they can fix it up and resell it.
A factory cable is unlikely to fix it, as it is obviously a hardware problem. Maybe a short in circuits or something. Your biggest mistake was that you turned it on as soon as you wiped it down. How long was it in the water? If it had any water inside it at all, you should have shut it down completely and let it dry out somewhere with good air circulation for at least a day.
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Yeah I think you are right with the short circuit...and I realized my mistake directly after I did it It was only in the water a second. Embarrassingly my pool over-flowed while I was lying beside it. It flowed out onto my cellphone, my husbands cellphone and the kindle. I picked them all up immediately but water most def got inside...I'm sure of it
Yes, that is funny.
I asked because since i went to ICS if i use a USB charger for my droid i've been stuck in the same screen, in addition to having other charging issues. I was speculating the problem might not be water related but an unnoticed problem associated with charging (3.0)
I agree a short seems most likely, I was just looking for a possible alternative to check before sending it in with fingers crossed.
If you don't want to send it in, feel free to take it apart yourself and see if you can fix anything. Likely not, as the battery may have bust. There is an easy to follow guide on ifixit.com for taking apart a Kindle Fire.
Remember though, it voids the warranty, so I'd recommend just sending it to Amazon first.
If all else fails and you can ship to England. Then I want the motherboard
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My Paperwhite got wet and was still within Amazon's one year regular (didn't buy extended) warranty. I was honest with them and, even though water damage is not covered, they were nice enough to replace it anyway. I am long time Amazon Prime/Kindle Unlimited member and don't know if that swayed their decision, but go to their support website. It's worth a try! They are VERY nice. I did have to send mine to them, but they sent UPS return label, and I had replacement within 5 days!
To whomsoever it may concern. Yes that's what my state of mind is right now.
I will begin from the beginning then.
So heard on 4th October 2016 that google is launching it's Pixel phones. Couldn't have been more excited with the news as I am a big android fan boy. I had been using the Nexus 6p then, so the news of the Pixel phones was really pleasing to me.
I wait for the Pixels to get launched in India. 26th October 2016 is the date. I pre-order my Pixel XL very silver 128 GB before hand and receive the handset on 26th! Very happy!!
I haven't ever used a better phone than the Pixel XL. The smoothest android experience. Period.
So a month passes by. The phone does overheat from time to time but other than that it worked fine. My "rock solid" Pixel XL gets about 40 GB full. One fine day, while I was trying to open a PDF from my drive, the device freezes and reboots. Nothing to worry, sometime android does that, I think to myself. Same day, Gmail freezes and the phone reboots. Then the Camera freezes and it reboots. Now I started to see a pattern. Tried uninstalling apps one by one, to pin point the root cause. Found nothing. Tried Safe Mode. Still it would freeze and reboot. Finally, made my peace with a factory reset. The phone started behaving. I told myself that I must be some rogue app.
This cycle continues again when the phone reaches that 40 GB mark. It would freeze and reboot. Factory reset once again. It works fine.
So I start suspecting the phone internal memory. I fill up the around 80 GB with random videos and music. The restarts start happening like clockwork.
Come 6th December 2016, and I receive the 7.1.1 update. Everything goes smooth. The phone acts normal, for sometime at least. I call up Google Support on the 8th and the guy tells me to take my phone to the service center.
Moments after, I see my phone restarting. It boots up and it's sitting on my table. In about five minutes, while lying idle on the table, it reboots. And this time, it reboots to boot-loader. I try to start the phone with the power key and the volume keys by choosing the right option. It boots back to boot-loader. Doesn't load up android. So somehow my phone was soft bricked just sitting idle on the table.
I am not new to the fastboot mode and decide to flash the stock rom. However, there is this issue that i suddenly see. The fastboot screen on my phone says Baseband : N/A and my bootloader is locked! The only option I see to get android up and running is using stock recovery and sideloading the Stock ROM, which should have worked as Google Stock ROMS are signed and might have not need unlocked bootloader(I did my research). I select recovery, and surprise surprise! The phone says recovery can't be loaded, press any key to go back!!
So now my phone has no OS, no baseband, no recovery with a locked bootloader! And i don't know how it happened!
I take the phone to the service center today around 11 am. They can't make sense of what happened. They say they would keep the phone for sometime. I get a call from them around 4, which was like half an hour back. The guy tells me there is a power button issue and another hardware issue(which he doesn't specify) and tells me they will keep the phone for 2 days. And repair it!
WHAT!?! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU REPAIRING MY PHONE GOOGLE!?! It's a new phone, not even 2 months old! And it doesn't come cheap! For the price amount I would expect it to work flawlessly!! I ask the service guy for replacement unit, and he says it is more than 14 days old, and gives me all terms and conditions! The problems that I had with this phone couldn't have been foreseen!! Till the time the internal storage gets to about 30 percent full the restarting issue did not show itself.
I expect a replacement unit or a full refund. Because this is just not fair! Not really happy with you Google. Thanks!
P.S.: thanks for reading this.
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I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
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If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
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If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
johnciaccio said:
He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
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Agree
Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
ithehappy said:
I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
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It is a hardware problem only, the phone worked fine till the 40 GB or so mark. And yeah, seem to feel unlucky about this now.
Also, I am not bashing HTC for this, they were pretty nice and they are doing their job. I understand that. Just not happy about the situation I am in that's all.
superchilpil said:
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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I wish i would have damaged the device just so that I would have something to blame this on.
And as for the car issue, you would want a new car, won't you? They will indeed repair it, however, a customer asking for a new car which works doesn't sound dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
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Thought as much. Thanks for reading the long post!!:good:
sanke1 said:
Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
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The problem is when they eventually return the phone, it would be hard for me to understand if the problem persists until I get a PC in front of me and fill up the device. And the problem is pretty random too. Thanks for the reply though.
No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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Got a faulty Pixel XL, issue with the logic board(based on what i have read on this discussion so far), not really happy with HTC opening my new phone and repairing it. I paid for a new phone and I want a new phone which works! I know I am whining a bit.
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No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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You read my mind!! Totally agree!!:good:
At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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It surely is not a good policy to have. And with the pixel devices the resellers were a part of the launch process. It was not like we had to wait for a few days after it was available online. It was almost the same time. I hope i get my device as soon as possible in working condition, because as I mentioned earlier, I love the phone. Also I have been using a prehistoric Nokia 1100 which I found in some corner of my house as I don't have any other back up device currently.
I'm just impressed that Google had a service center in Bangalore.
Yeah sucks. Let us know how it goes.
I have discovered my PH-1 has an unusual problem. If the phone is powered off for a day or two it loses a substantial amount of battery. I found this out when I switched back to my S8+ while on a trip and when I went to switch back to the PH-1 it was down to 60 something percent battery when it was at 100 percent when I powered it down.
This is new behavior as it wasn't doing this when I got it.
Thinking it was a fluke I repeated the exercise a few times with the same result. I reached out to Essential support but because I purchased the phone used (off Swappa) they told me to pee up a rope after making me jump through hoops for week.
I tried a hard reset, re-applying the latest patch, and re-flashing the latest Pie via fastboot. Nothing has worked which makes me believe it is a hardware issue.
Just for laughs I powered up my Nexus 5X which has been powered off for months and it was still at 100% battery.
Anyone have anything I can try? I really like this phone but now can't trust it.
I guess as this is the second time I got burned buying a used phone (first Google and now Essential) I will stop using Swappa. The manufactures will not help so you are on your own when you have issues. I realize the manufactures aren't obligated to help second hand device owners but it still sucks when you have issues not of your own making and they blow you off.
That sucks.
Ideally the seller should have been open enough in the description and have explained that this problem exists. I don't know how it works with Swappa as I never used it, but on eBay you can try and work it out with the seller or even open a case saying the phone is faulty. Your best bet is to contact the person who you bought it from and ask if they have an original proof of purchase, or if they're willing for you to send the phone back for a full refund.
It really sounds to me like a battery issue which would be a definite cause for an RMA, I've not seen anyone mention this problem before though.
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I'm not sure the seller knew of the problem as it wasn't behaving like this when I first received it. I'm not really blaming either the seller or Swappa. No OEM is going to help you out if you purchased second hand. It's a potential pitfall that purchasers need to be aware of. I was aware of it and still got burned.
I would really like to find a way to resurrect this phone as I loved it. But I won't buy another one. Short of trying to replace the battery I just have run out of things to try.
One thing to try would be to see if it does it with no user installed applications whatsoever.
I'd factory reset it and uninstall everything and see if you still get the drain.
Given that it seems to happen when the phone is off I doubt it's an application, but it doesn't seem like you have many other options.
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One thing to try would be to see if it does it with no user installed applications whatsoever.
I'd factory reset it and uninstall everything and see if you still get the drain.
Given that it seems to happen when the phone is off I doubt it's an application, but it doesn't seem like you have many other options.
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Thanks but I've already went that route. I re-flashed that latest Pie image and didn't sign in or install anything. Same issue. I'm pretty sure the battery is toast.
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I'm not sure the seller knew of the problem as it wasn't behaving like this when I first received it. I'm not really blaming either the seller or Swappa. No OEM is going to help you out if you purchased second hand. It's a potential pitfall that purchasers need to be aware of. I was aware of it and still got burned.
I would really like to find a way to resurrect this phone as I loved it. But I won't buy another one. Short of trying to replace the battery I just have run out of things to try.
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OEM might help if the device is still in warranty and whoever you bought it from has the original purchase receipt. Or they have a system like OnePlus where all you need is a screenshot of the order, doesn't matter who owns the actual device.
I try to buy phones in new condition, or at least make sure there's some warranty left plus a purchase receipt of some kind.
Unfortunately changing the battery isn't an option, Essential Phone has no spare parts available so I doubt you'd be able to find one for replacement. Your best bet is to contact the buyer and try to get a proof or purchase off them, or just live with the issue. If you have the phone as a daily driver it won't bother you too much right? Do you feel like the phone drains battery quickly when it's on as well? What kind of Screen on Time do you get with it?
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OEM might help if the device is still in warranty and whoever you bought it from has the original purchase receipt. Or they have a system like OnePlus where all you need is a screenshot of the order, doesn't matter who owns the actual device.
I try to buy phones in new condition, or at least make sure there's some warranty left plus a purchase receipt of some kind.
Unfortunately changing the battery isn't an option, Essential Phone has no spare parts available so I doubt you'd be able to find one for replacement. Your best bet is to contact the buyer and try to get a proof or purchase off them, or just live with the issue. If you have the phone as a daily driver it won't bother you too much right? Do you feel like the phone drains battery quickly when it's on as well? What kind of Screen on Time do you get with it?
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I don't know if I can still contact the seller or not. I can talk to someone at Swappa and find out. That actually is a good idea and worth trying. I haven't run the phone as a daily driver since I discovered the issue because of all the testing Essential made me do and my own experimentation. It does seem to drain more quickly but at this stage I can't be sure.
I may just use it as a very fast and expensive mp3 player.
I just thought I would update this thread. Thanks to CamoGeko I decided to pursue the Swappa angle and contacted them and asked them if they would contact the seller on my behalf which they have done. I made clear that I was not accusing the seller and was just hoping for his assistance. I have heard from the seller and he may have some documentation and is checking into it. It may or may not fly with Essential but it is the only avenue I have left so why not give it a go.
I'll update the thread again once I have more information.
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I just thought I would update this thread. Thanks to CamoGeko I decided to pursue the Swappa angle and contacted them and asked them if they would contact the seller on my behalf which they have done. I made clear that I was not accusing the seller and was just hoping for his assistance. I have heard from the seller and he may have some documentation and is checking into it. It may or may not fly with Essential but it is the only avenue I have left so why not give it a go.
I'll update the thread again once I have more information.
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That's great to hear. Hopefully they can provide proof of purchase which means you'll be able to get a replacement device from Essential!
Good luck and hope you get something sorted.
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Well even though the original purchaser helped me out and got me a copy of his invoice Essential still told me to take a hike. Soooo I am officially out of options.
grumpygoof said:
I have discovered my PH-1 has an unusual problem. If the phone is powered off for a day or two it loses a substantial amount of battery. I found this out when I switched back to my S8+ while on a trip and when I went to switch back to the PH-1 it was down to 60 something percent battery when it was at 100 percent when I powered it down.
This is new behavior as it wasn't doing this when I got it.
Thinking it was a fluke I repeated the exercise a few times with the same result. I reached out to Essential support but because I purchased the phone used (off Swappa) they told me to pee up a rope after making me jump through hoops for week.
I tried a hard reset, re-applying the latest patch, and re-flashing the latest Pie via fastboot. Nothing has worked which makes me believe it is a hardware issue.
Just for laughs I powered up my Nexus 5X which has been powered off for months and it was still at 100% battery.
Anyone have anything I can try? I really like this phone but now can't trust it.
I guess as this is the second time I got burned buying a used phone (first Google and now Essential) I will stop using Swappa. The manufactures will not help so you are on your own when you have issues. I realize the manufactures aren't obligated to help second hand device owners but it still sucks when you have issues not of your own making and they blow you off.
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I had the same issue with the battery drain after turn off the phone. In my case, I waited until the empty battery.
After 8 hours without battery I plug the phone to the charger and the issue was gone. In my case was after the security update 5 july in Android 8.1.
chris1871 said:
I had the same issue with the battery drain after turn off the phone. In my case, I waited until the empty battery.
After 8 hours without battery I plug the phone to the charger and the issue was gone. In my case was after the security update 5 july in Android 8.1.
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Maybe I'm not out of options after all. I hadn't heard of that before but your solution certainly seems worth a try. I will let the battery drain and see what happens. Thanks for the post.
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Maybe I'm not out of options after all. I hadn't heard of that before but your solution certainly seems worth a try. I will let the battery drain and see what happens. Thanks for the post.
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Wait 8 hours without battery. After that plug the phone to charger, it's the only trick
Thanks. I will give that a shot. I left it on overnight and it lost 30% of its charge sitting there doing nothing. No radios were turned on.
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Thanks. I will give that a shot. I left it on overnight and it lost 30% of its charge sitting there doing nothing. No radios were turned on.
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Did you leave the phone without a battery for 8 hours before reloading it?
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Did you leave the phone without a battery for 8 hours before reloading it?
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No. I haven't gotten that far yet. I'm trying to drain is completely. I'm not using the phone so it's taking longer than I would like. It's weird, it drops 20-30% overnight but doesn't seem to drain excessively while powered on.
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Did you leave the phone without a battery for 8 hours before reloading it?
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Ok. I got it to drain completely and let it sit for about 15 hrs. Charging it now. I'll report back when I have some info. Thanks for the suggestion. Even if it doesn't work for me it was certainly worth trying.
I am really curious to see the outcome. Thanks for the updates.
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I am really curious to see the outcome. Thanks for the updates.
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As am I. I recharged it and now need to let it sit powered off for a few days. I'll report back after that.
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As am I. I recharged it and now need to let it sit powered off for a few days. I'll report back after that.
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I was looking up reviews to decide if I should buy one of these and found this forum. I hope for a good result because I have heard some positive things about this phone. Other than this do you have any other input about it?