Hey all; I, along with many others, am still waiting on the Android 4.3 OTA update for the Nexus 10. For those that have it, or who have flashed it, I have a few questions that I'm sure we're all curious about.
First off, the butter. Of course, I'm talking smoothness. The Nexus 10 is obviously a powerful device, and it can power this display for sure. However, it does stutter and lag from time to time. The Google+ timeline stutters, scrolling through the comments stutters (only sometimes, strangely), and I see some general scrolling lag at times. The home screen does this too, but rarely. The gesture typing on the keyboard also drops frames at times, especially in some apps (Google Maps is the chief offender). It lags, drops behind, etc. Generally it works well, but as mentioned especially in Google Maps it drops frames and acts slowly. Are scrolling and similar tasks improved with 4.3?
Second, RAM usage. Currently, I'm sitting around ~560MB free After a couple hours of varied usage, as you can see in the screenshot attached. On average, the most I see is 600MB unless it's after a fresh reboot. I am one of the users who experiences the random reboots, also, so this drops eventually until the tablet crashes on me. Has average free RAM increased with the addition of the Surfaceflinger leak fix in the latest update?
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Thirdly, and finally: homescreen redraws. Whenever I press the home button after being in an app for a few minutes, the entire homescreen has to redraw. On a device like this, I expect that this shouldn't happen. It interrupts the experience. I love the Nexus 10, I just want it to be more perfect for me than it currently is!
Thanks for those who read, thanks! I look forward to the conversation.
~Walkop
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I feel like this needs a bump. I'm still quite curious, and this page has a lot of views since I posted it.
Therefore: BUMP!
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I feel like this needs a bump. I'm still quite curious, and this page has a lot of views since I posted it.
Therefore: BUMP!
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Well the home screen redraws can easily be fixed by using apex or nova and choosing keep in memory. Also I'm quite happy with 4.3. It was more of a behind the scenes fix up stuff update which is a good thing. It's a lot smoother and the tablet just runs better overall. No major changes besides some small things like camera redesigned and miracast support added, etc.
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To answer your first question, the 4.3 rom is undoubtedly smoother than 4.2.2 was. In fact, 4.3 stock is smoother than 4.2.2 was with the tablet overclocked to 2.1ghz/720Mhz. Chrome is much more usable, and animations almost never stutter. I don't recall ever seeing the Maps app slow down either. I haven't really tried the play store or G+ apps too much, I'll give them a go tonight and let you know.
The homescreen redraws are still there. I haven't tried the fix suggested by abdel12345 as it doesn't really bother me much.
Free ram usually hovers somewhere between 200 and 400MB, but this is fine. It amazes me that despite so many explanations, people still don't understand how caching works in Linux!
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To answer your first question, the 4.3 rom is undoubtedly smoother than 4.2.2 was. In fact, 4.3 stock is smoother than 4.2.2 was with the tablet overclocked to 2.1ghz/720Mhz. Chrome is much more usable, and animations almost never stutter. I don't recall ever seeing the Maps app slow down either. I haven't really tried the play store or G+ apps too much, I'll give them a go tonight and let you know.
The homescreen redraws are still there. I haven't tried the fix suggested by abdel12345 as it doesn't really bother me much.
Free ram usually hovers somewhere between 200 and 400MB, but this is fine. It amazes me that despite so many explanations, people still don't understand how caching works in Linux!
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In fairness, although most modern operating systems now have this behavior (with regards to memory usage), none of them are designed to have a built-in process fail to free it until the system keels over. Personally though, I haven't had any SurfaceFlinger-related issues, so I can't say too much about it.
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In fairness, although most modern operating systems now have this behavior (with regards to memory usage), none of them are designed to have a built-in process fail to free it until the system keels over. Personally though, I haven't had any SurfaceFlinger-related issues, so I can't say too much about it.
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Very true, though older versions of Windows do make me wonder! :laugh:
Point I'm making is that whether there is a memory leak in a process or not you, should not be seeing more than a few hundred MB of "free" ram, unless by free ram you mean free+cached.
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Very true, though older versions of Windows do make me wonder! :laugh:
Point I'm making is that whether there is a memory leak in a process or not you, should not be seeing more than a few hundred MB of "free" ram, unless by free ram you mean free+cached.
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Granted. But considering how much effort people pushed in peddling RAM-freeing solutions, it's not surprising that many people still want "free" RAM (which is ironic, because you're not getting any use out of that RAM you bought by keeping it free...).
Memory management took a huge leap with Windows 7, but much of the underlying improvements actually came from Windows Vista. That operating system is actually a lot better than people give it credit for. More than anything else though, Vista was shot in the foot by OEMs who needed to sell out their inventories of the "budget PCs" that were really in at the time-- machines with yesteryear's specs that could just about run Windows XP nicely, but that were forced to run Vista so as not to appear "dated." You know the end result of that.
Touch responsiveness is better.
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To answer your first question, the 4.3 rom is undoubtedly smoother than 4.2.2 was. In fact, 4.3 stock is smoother than 4.2.2 was with the tablet overclocked to 2.1ghz/720Mhz. Chrome is much more usable, and animations almost never stutter. I don't recall ever seeing the Maps app slow down either. I haven't really tried the play store or G+ apps too much, I'll give them a go tonight and let you know.
The homescreen redraws are still there. I haven't tried the fix suggested by abdel12345 as it doesn't really bother me much.
Free ram usually hovers somewhere between 200 and 400MB, but this is fine. It amazes me that despite so many explanations, people still don't understand how caching works in Linux!
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Thanks for the reply!
Glad to hear browsing and animations are much better. It sounds like a fantastic improvement (being relative, of course- the Nexus 10 is already the smoothest Android 10" tablet experience around). As for redraws - oh well. I may swap to Nova or Apex (I have full editions for both, IIRC). As for RAM, I actually agree with you there. I just didn't expect that they improved caching performance - on 4.2.2, I sometimes end up with 400MB for no reason whatsoever after clearing all recent apps, instead of 600MB-750MB that I get on a fresh boot with a couple recent apps. More used RAM, if there isn't a leak, is a GOOD thing!
Anyway, I'm still waiting on the OTA. A family member's Nexus 10 got it today, so I'm hopeful!
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Interesting. Hopefully it will pick up those quick bezel-swipes more accurately from now on! Sometimes they don't register for me.
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Memory management took a huge leap with Windows 7, but much of the underlying improvements actually came from Windows Vista. That operating system is actually a lot better than people give it credit for. More than anything else though, Vista was shot in the foot by OEMs who needed to sell out their inventories of the "budget PCs" that were really in at the time-- machines with yesteryear's specs that could just about run Windows XP nicely, but that were forced to run Vista so as not to appear "dated." You know the end result of that.
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Totally agreed. I had an old pre-fab Compaq with Vista before I got the custom build up and running that I use today (SSD+Windows 8 = WIN). It ran Vista - and it worked great for me! UAC was a pain, at times, but I never really noticed it until I saw complaints on forums. Either way, Vista was a relatively solid OS. I never ran into any bugs or issues, and it performed well.
8 is definitely a massive improvement over 7, though. Boot-up times are much faster, interacting with the entire OS is just a much more fluid experience. 8 isn't just about Metro (or whatever they call it now) - it brings a lot of behind-the-scenes improvements.
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Serious noob here, so, my thoughts:
Was trying to stay stock on the N10, so I upgraded to 4.3 OTA today. The screen times out in ~ 5 seconds now, and the only fix I've found is to factory reset. I called support, and the rep said I need to factory reset (surprise). I've done this twice now, and nothing's changed.
And I can't find a video player that doesn't crash. I used to use Dice, and it won't work. I made the mistake of uninstalling to see if a reinstall would fix, and now Play says it's incompatible and won't install. I tried a couple others, and they crash too.
I wished I didn't upgrade. It's not bricked, but it's not really usable either. I generally used it to take notes at work and play videos at home. I can't really do either at this point.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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...And I can't find a video player that doesn't crash. I used to use Dice, and it won't work. I made the mistake of uninstalling to see if a reinstall would fix, and now Play says it's incompatible and won't install. I tried a couple others, and they crash too...
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Right now (Jul 30th) we are all in a hold pattern waiting for our favorite HW accelerated player to be updated. You are not alone.
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Serious noob here, so, my thoughts:
Was trying to stay stock on the N10, so I upgraded to 4.3 OTA today. The screen times out in ~ 5 seconds now, and the only fix I've found is to factory reset. I called support, and the rep said I need to factory reset (surprise). I've done this twice now, and nothing's changed.
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I did say I was a N00b, right? I discovered the sleep setting which I thought I'd set had no value at all following the factory reset. So maybe the upgrade to 4.3 unset the value or there was really a screen timeout problem. But now that it's set to something the problem is gone. Sheesh I'm an idiot.
thehobster said:
Serious noob here, so, my thoughts:
Was trying to stay stock on the N10, so I upgraded to 4.3 OTA today. The screen times out in ~ 5 seconds now, and the only fix I've found is to factory reset. I called support, and the rep said I need to factory reset (surprise). I've done this twice now, and nothing's changed.
And I can't find a video player that doesn't crash. I used to use Dice, and it won't work. I made the mistake of uninstalling to see if a reinstall would fix, and now Play says it's incompatible and won't install. I tried a couple others, and they crash too.
I wished I didn't upgrade. It's not bricked, but it's not really usable either. I generally used it to take notes at work and play videos at home. I can't really do either at this point.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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For video, try the VLC beta. MX Player doesn't work for me either, after the 4.3 update, but I watched a movie on VLC just fine last night. It will even play codecs that other players like MX Player won't play, like the dts audio codec.
DicePlayer has received two updates yesterday. Now its back in playstore for our n10. So far works fine for me.
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DicePlayer has received two updates yesterday. Now its back in playstore for our n10. So far works fine for me.
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Yep - installed and working fine. Whew.
DicePlayer working excellent!!
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DicePlayer working excellent!!
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Mx player updated and seems to be working on 4.3. Someone to confirm this?
Should work fine. It's official info about support android 4.3
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Mx player updated and seems to be working on 4.3. Someone to confirm this?
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Yep. Just watched an video with hw+ decoder for half an hour after receiving the 1.7.16 ARMv7-neon update.
I always used Mxplayer, but I I noticed that diceplayer hiding status bar and bottom navbar. Display is on fullscreen Mxplayer has both black bar Diceplayer win in my eyes
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I am coming from almost 1 year use of X10a and even tried Galaxy SII after a week with Arc and sold SII mainly because I hated AMOLED colors and Samsung design and UI.
When I first got Misty Silver Arc (flashed LT15a) into my hands I was excited as the phone looked simply stunning. Felt great in hand.
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Now, after two weeks of use I have very mixed feeling and I am already trying to look for what is out there that looks good and performs like GSII. Atrix? Not sure!!
Pros:
1. Screen
2. Looks (design) & Feel.
3. Gingerbread
4. SE UI
5. Camera
Cons:
1. Phone starts to lag once you install some widgets, and install basic apps. I am almost seeing very minimal gain from my X10 in performance once I install my standard apps/widgets.
2. Camera button is a joke. It's almost impossible to use without shaking the phone too much.
3. Too long. They could have tried and eliminated all that black area that has Sony Ericsson Logo.
4. The battery cover starts to feel squeaky in the middle area towards the side that has volume rockers. I had to put small tape inside to stop that feeling.
I might have to root and remove some pre-installed crap and see how the phone performs. Else, I am seriously thinking to sell the phone and maybe wait for something or go back to SGII and live with it's ugliness and fake colors on AMOLED. I just will have to wait for a good ROM for it as I couldn't stand the Samsung interface. It makes Android feel like their feature phone. I am also going to try and play with Atrix and compared it to arc. If the performance on Atrix is good, I might just get it as the phone feels solid and it at least looks better than GSII.
It amazes me how SE sc*$#s up with every phone in someway and I still end up owning them. With X10 it's the OS version and with Arc, lousy hardware specs. They should at least have provided more memory. I have a feeling they never tested Arc by installing any apps and widgets.
Apps/widgets I have installed - Go Contacts, Go Contacts Themes, Go SMS Pro, Go SMS Themes, Beautiful Widgets, Beautiful Widgets Animation, beautiful widgets themes, Widgetsoid, life.contacts, Amazon MP3, Amazon Appstore, Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Fruit Ninja, Swype, Astro, ESPNCricInfo, Business Calendar, Just Pictures, Yahoo Mail, Tripit, Opera Mini, Twitter, xda premium, and Yelp.
What I mean by Laggy?
I don't mean it's so slow to get annoying. It only felt laggy compared to what I experienced with GSII. It's not annoying but at times I find it annoying when the dialer takes almost couple of seconds to load or my SMS shows blank blue screen for almost 4-6 seconds. At that time, if I restart my phone it performs better. I stopped using Live wallpapers hoping it will help phone perform better. I remember the performance was not like this when i played with the stock ROM. I am not sure if playing with whatsapp screw'd up something. I will try to reflash and see how it behaves.
Update1: I re-flashed my Arc and it now works blazing fast. In the next few weeks I will try to find if any particular app I used caused the issue or it's just a limitation with Arc if you have several apps/widgets installed with over 300 contacts and lost of them with high quality photo image linked through SE UI instead of picking low quality one from GMail.
Update2: I installed most of my commonly used apps and I see no lag now. I suspect having three weather apps might have some cause for the lag before as they were alway setup to get weather updated. I used Beautiful Weather, Go Weather, and WeatherBug Elite. I had Beautiful weather setup to have animation on unlock too. Or it just could be one of the other apps which I am used to download everyday from amazon appstore.
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "laggy"? I've got 8 or 9 widgets on my homescreen, phone still runs like it did out of the box. It's incredibly fast, I've had uptimes longer than you've owned the phone, and most of all, it works very well as a phone. The phone has 512MB of RAM, which means it runs smoothly and there's rarely any lag unless you're doing too many things in the background.
As for the battery door problem, my only comment is "I don't know what you're talking about." Camera button? Works fine for me, and I have a silicone shell over the button. If you're going to complain about a button, I'd recommend the awful power button. It's my biggest complaint about the phone.
Definitely agree on the creaky battery cover. Really detracts from the overall feel of the phone.
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I'm not sure I know what you mean by "laggy"?
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I updated my initial post to explain what I mean by laggy.
I don't mean it's so slow to get annoying. It only felt laggy compared to what I experienced with GSII. At times, I find it gets annoying when the dialer takes almost couple of seconds to load or SMS shows blank blue screen for almost 4-6 seconds. At that time, if I restart my phone it performs better. I stopped using Live wallpapers hoping it will help phone perform better. I remember the performance was not like this when i played with the stock ROM. I am not sure if playing with whatsapp screw'd up something. I will try to reflash and see how it behaves.
I happen to own a LG Optimus 2x as well, if you want a phone fast like hell, just grab that one. Still I using my arc more as I love the design and colours better than on the LG.
After I deleted all the crap I don't use using titanium backup my Arc doesn't feel that laggy anymore, try that too....but still...the LG is faster...
Further on I do think both are great phones, but I wish there were more devs in the Arc section. At the LG section there are very good roms available. I know I shouldn't complain when I am unable to make something myself, but I just miss some nice roms I can try on my Arc.
Before getting another phone, just search here on the forum for complaints, I think in every section at XDA on every phone you will find some cons. It's just to decide which con is important for you...
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If you're going to complain about a button, I'd recommend the awful power button. It's my biggest complaint about the phone.
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I hate the small power button as well. But since I use Widgetsoid and there is Lock Screen option, I never had to use the button (except to reboot, which I seldom do).
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I hate the small power button as well. But since I use Widgetsoid and there is Lock Screen option, I never had to use the button (except to reboot, which I seldom do).
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Agreed.
Power button and camera button could have been better.
You can use the same widget to reboot as well if you are rooted.
I use the screenoff software which gives you some kind of effects when switching off
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You can use the same widget to reboot as well if you are rooted.
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I am aware of that but I am afraid that I may accidentally hit the option, causing my phone to reboot when I had no intention to do so.
I have 9 screens & 21 widgets & phone is as fast as it was out of box.. Rooted & removed crap apps though I can't compare it with SGS2 as i don't own it, but SGS2 ca be faster (due to memory & dua core) but Arc is not laggy
There is a "what can we remove" thread here. It's a good start but there can also be other reasons for laggyness.
Removing programs you don't use and clear unused programs data and killing non-active tasks can speedup you phone, sometimes
I haven't had such "lag" issues.
Maybe you removed something that affected phone aswell.
I come from an iphone 4 and sometimes i found the phone a bit laggy but overall it's a great phone and i love the screen so much ! And i'm glad to finally haver something that note everybody have.
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And i'm glad to finally haver something that note everybody have.
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Yeah, this is something good to brag about! Plus, there isnt any phone that captures better pictures than arc!
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I just re-flashed the stock ROM and the phone flies. I am going to first root it and remove lot of crap I don't need and then install one app a day to see which one made things 'a little' laggy.
I also suspect if having high quality images for contacts might be the culprit. I remember I had that problem with X10. If SE is scaling down the resolution when it crops, that shouldn't be a problem.
Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.
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Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.
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I am using whatever came with Arc. I didn't check the class but it is 16GB card.
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I am using whatever came with Arc. I didn't check the class but it is 16GB card.
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Class 2, the lowest
By the way how can we know the class we had of mscard ?
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Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.
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Very unlikely to be the cause. Class of an SD card really only affects how fast you can write to it, read speeds are generally extremely fast regardless of class.
So I just got CM7 beta installed and the communications lady at my place of business comes to my desk and says "Oh, you have the Atrix? Do you want me to order you a lapdock for it?"
Sucks to be me, right?
I had her order the thing because we are doing a lot of cool stuff with citrix receiver and how awesome would it be if I could have an atrix running Windows via citrix reciever
But now -- I cant bring myself to remove CM7. I've thought about it many times.
I've been in recovery with my finger hovering over the button to flash back to stock GB
But I love CM7 too much. I don't want to go back to blur.
It would be like -- having an Atrix and the someone telling you you had to use this HTC Incredible 2 instead.
I think I have the solution. I am going to go back to the communications lady and request a 2nd Atrix -- for testing purposes only of course.
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So I just got CM7 beta installed and the communications lady at my place of business comes to my desk and says "Oh, you have the Atrix? Do you want me to order you a lapdock for it?"
Sucks to be me, right?
I had her order the thing because we are doing a lot of cool stuff with citrix receiver and how awesome would it be if I could have an atrix running Windows via citrix reciever
But now -- I cant bring myself to remove CM7. I've thought about it many times.
I've been in recovery with my finger hovering over the button to flash back to stock GB
But I love CM7 too much. I don't want to go back to blur.
It's would be like -- having an Atrix and the someone telling you you had to use this HTC Incredible 2 instead.
I think I have the solution. I am going to go back to the communications lady and request a 2nd Atrix -- for testing purposes only of course.
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Yeah, that or sell the laptop dock
Webtop will most likely be working once the dev team release a RC build. But who knows how long that may be.
What company do you work at, where they just hand out laptop docks? that's awsome.
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Yeah, that or sell the laptop dock
What company do you work at, where they just hand out laptop docks? that's awsome.
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Can't sell it since it's technically a company asset.
I won't broadcast the exact company for CYA reasons, but I will say that I work in IT at one of the major American Pizza corporations.
Free pizza + Free tech = winning combo
cool story bro
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cool story bro
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How long have you been waiting to say that to someone?
Flash Aura!..............Fantastic ROM!
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How long have you been waiting to say that to someone?
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Since he saw it in another post.
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Seriously, I have the same problem. I keep going back and forth.
I like CM7, but I actually miss some of the crap that Moto put in the Atrix rom. And the webtop. Most of the time it's fairly useless, but when I need it, it's golden. And the Citrix Receiver is awesome, I have fun explaining to everyone that the phone is the laptop (just like those stupid ads).
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Citrix Receiver is awesome, I have fun explaining to everyone that the phone is the laptop (just like those stupid ads).
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+1 for citrix receiver being awesome. People are blown away when I launch photoshop in 3 seconds because its being run by a quad core xeon with 16GB Ram
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Since he saw it in another post.
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OMFG. Do you have job openings? I can do marketing. Will work for free tech and free pizza.
I don't see what the CM7 rave is all about. I've had too many Android phones to list and I tried CM on all of them. It serves a good purpose for phones which are slow to get updated or don't have any good custom roms, but I don't see the purpose with the Atrix as I felt the same way with the Evo and Evo 3D. The loss of certain functionality isn't worth it in my opinion. I don't have a lapdock, but being able to go somewhere and plug in the HDMI and have an easy no nonsense way of playing music, videos and pictures. Motoblur is not intrusive either like Sense can be at times.
I'm just offering my opinion and not trying to start an arguement, but I truely want to know why so many people "must" use it. Am I missing something? I used it for two days until I went to watch a movie and only had HDMI mirroring with no landscape support. I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.
For informations, I really like that
Searching the web and accompanying the operation with a friend, I see that there are some outstanding issues to resolve, as the case of battery and FM radio. But, in the future, I wish to install on my Xperia X10 Mini Pro.
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I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.
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CM7 just seems snappier, Im guessing because there are fewer processes running. That being said, I ran Alien prior to CM7 and I have been running Alien ever since I originally posted this (i caved because I really wanted to try out the lapdock) and I agree, That rom is very fast compared to the stock GB, thanks to kennethpen's work.
Keep in mind its still beta
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I don't see what the CM7 rave is all about. I've had too many Android phones to list and I tried CM on all of them. It serves a good purpose for phones which are slow to get updated or don't have any good custom roms, but I don't see the purpose with the Atrix as I felt the same way with the Evo and Evo 3D. The loss of certain functionality isn't worth it in my opinion. I don't have a lapdock, but being able to go somewhere and plug in the HDMI and have an easy no nonsense way of playing music, videos and pictures. Motoblur is not intrusive either like Sense can be at times.
I'm just offering my opinion and not trying to start an arguement, but I truely want to know why so many people "must" use it. Am I missing something? I used it for two days until I went to watch a movie and only had HDMI mirroring with no landscape support. I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.
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Completely agreed. I admit I use it for phones like the BACKFLIP and the CLIQ XT. Phones that are slow and buggy stock and need to be cleaned up or have major driver/coding issues. But the atrix? Stock 2.3.4 rooted debloated is an absolute dream: silky smooth, insanely fast, and 20 hour battery life. And lapdock STILL works.
I think it's kind of like Google Chrome or Firefox. Even though IE9 flies and does everything correctly on win 7 ultimate x64 and a quadcore with a good graphics card...people still use Chrome or Firefox. Just that whole rebellious don't let the man put you down type mentality.
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Completely agreed. I admit I use it for phones like the BACKFLIP and the CLIQ XT. Phones that are slow and buggy stock and need to be cleaned up or have major driver/coding issues. But the atrix? Stock 2.3.4 rooted debloated is an absolute dream: silky smooth, insanely fast, and 20 hour battery life. And lapdock STILL works.
I think it's kind of like Google Chrome or Firefox. Even though IE9 flies and does everything correctly on win 7 ultimate x64 and a quadcore with a good graphics card...people still use Chrome or Firefox. Just that whole rebellious don't let the man put you down type mentality.
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That and Chrome is a bizzillion times faster than IE, and a bizzillion times lighter on system resources than IE.... kinda like CM7
A BIZZILLION!!!!
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i like cm7 because chainfire runs perfect,
in all the others gb roms if i install the app every time i revert to portrait from landscape screen becomes crazy full of artifacts...
and of course booting up in less than 40 sec with 120 app installed...incredible!
Swiftks said:
That and Chrome is a bizzillion times faster than IE, and a bizzillion times lighter on system resources than IE.... kinda like CM7
A BIZZILLION!!!!
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except IE9 is so much better when it comes to css3 and gpu aided html5. and other than that, almost the exact same resources footprint. oh, and try twitter on chrome and look at your cpu load, then do it on ie9 and compare..also..ie9 doesn't change my registry, chrome does, in many ways, and they DON'T TELL YOU IT DOES.
if it's really about speed, opera destroys chrome, firefox, and IE.
and if it's about usability, I've never seen a better browser than safari.
can't really say anything about CM7. At this point I simply don't see why I want it on my atrix. the new blur launcher is way lighter than adw.
againareku said:
except IE9 is so much better when it comes to css3 and gpu aided html5. and other than that, almost the exact same resources footprint. oh, and try twitter on chrome and look at your cpu load, then do it on ie9 and compare..also..ie9 doesn't change my registry, chrome does, in many ways, and they DON'T TELL YOU IT DOES.
if it's really about speed, opera destroys chrome, firefox, and IE.
and if it's about usability, I've never seen a better browser than safari.
can't really say anything about CM7. At this point I simply don't see why I want it on my atrix. the new blur launcher is way lighter than adw.
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The beauty of Android is that you don't have to use the packaged launcher if you don't like it. That goes for any ROM that packages a non stock Android launcher.
The nice thing about CM7, besides being one of the more popular ROMs, is that there are a lot of developers for it and in most cases it runs better than the stock ROM. When the vendor stops supporting the phone, the CM devs keep going.
I've used CM across 3 different phones and in all cases it was superior to stock, even on my Atrix which is still in beta. Now I do miss the fingerprint reader and having audio out work through the car dock but these will eventually get added.
Dear all,
I am a somewhat half-way happy owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. As an upgrade from the iPhone 4, I was welcomed to an open eco-system where could customize the user interface in a way that suited me perfectly. I love the way that apps integrate into the OS – the gallery and sending images through whatsapp, Line, and other photo editing apps is amazingly great. I currently use the stock JB4.1.1 firmware and I am rooted in order to quarantine bloatware. I use the premium version of Nova launcher. First impressions by this point are very good!
Now to the bad: Whether it is just my experience or not, this phone just doesn’t seem to be able to handle some of the most simple user case scenarios.
Take this example:
I am working, listening to music at the office and doing occasional browsing. But sometimes I need to be on the move to see clients in faraway locations. So I get up off my butt and get to the car, switch on the GPS and blue tooth and set it to my car stereo. By this point, I am trying to input an address while the phone is heating up, lagging like crazy and generally unresponsive. The music is jittering and the phone itself becomes unusable. I then have to restart the phone to return it to a usable state.
This occurs pretty frequently, not just in this user case, but sometimes doing the simplest of tasks: Music>switch to browsing>youtube video>back to browsing>change track>whatsapp>send photo>facebok: *bam phone starts lagging*.
This phone is inconsistent. Sometimes it works smooth as ever. When it does I’m smiling and I’m absolutely delighted. The large screen is so great. But quite frequently the phone is far less reliable than my old iPhone 4. Even that handset could handle GPS, music and browsing just fine. Perhaps it’s the way iOS handles multitasking? I am relatively tech savy and am aware of iOS multitasking not being “true multitasking” but in honestly, it just works. Particularly with the Tomtom app.
I am not here to bash the Samsung GS3, I’m just here to share my user experience with the hope that someone here can provide some advice on how to better optimize the system. I’ve spent many days and nights trying to love this thing: constantly making efforts to optimize this phone. It’s a process I much enjoy and I sincerely love the customizability, flexibility of the OS. In truth, if it worked as well as it does when it does work, it is far superior to iOS. But the fact that the experience frequent lags and has reliability issues, I honestly am starting to feel the itch to sacrifice that extra power for that reliability I had become used to in iOS. Yes it’s less powerful, yes apps don’t integrate well into the OS, but hey – it works all the time. All the time I’ve spent wasting trying to optimize the phone (as fun as it can be), is starting to fade in its appeal when I actually want to use this thing.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to how best to optimize this system? I’ve rooted this thing and have quarantined all the bloatware. I’ve yet to try roms. I’m waiting for my mini-sd card to arrive so I can backup all my stuff there then try “slimbean” and some stripped down versions of jellybean. But is my user case common among other GS3 users using stock roms? Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is there something I can do to enhance my experience?
Cheers and thanks in advance for your kind input!
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Dear all,
I am a somewhat half-way happy owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. As an upgrade from the iPhone 4, I was welcomed to an open eco-system where could customize the user interface in a way that suited me perfectly. I love the way that apps integrate into the OS – the gallery and sending images through whatsapp, Line, and other photo editing apps is amazingly great. I currently use the stock JB4.1.1 firmware and I am rooted in order to quarantine bloatware. I use the premium version of Nova launcher. First impressions by this point are very good!
Now to the bad: Whether it is just my experience or not, this phone just doesn’t seem to be able to handle some of the most simple user case scenarios.
Take this example:
I am working, listening to music at the office and doing occasional browsing. But sometimes I need to be on the move to see clients in faraway locations. So I get up off my butt and get to the car, switch on the GPS and blue tooth and set it to my car stereo. By this point, I am trying to input an address while the phone is heating up, lagging like crazy and generally unresponsive. The music is jittering and the phone itself becomes unusable. I then have to restart the phone to return it to a usable state.
This occurs pretty frequently, not just in this user case, but sometimes doing the simplest of tasks: Music>switch to browsing>youtube video>back to browsing>change track>whatsapp>send photo>facebok: *bam phone starts lagging*.
This phone is inconsistent. Sometimes it works smooth as ever. When it does I’m smiling and I’m absolutely delighted. The large screen is so great. But quite frequently the phone is far less reliable than my old iPhone 4. Even that handset could handle GPS, music and browsing just fine. Perhaps it’s the way iOS handles multitasking? I am relatively tech savy and am aware of iOS multitasking not being “true multitasking” but in honestly, it just works. Particularly with the Tomtom app.
I am not here to bash the Samsung GS3, I’m just here to share my user experience with the hope that someone here can provide some advice on how to better optimize the system. I’ve spent many days and nights trying to love this thing: constantly making efforts to optimize this phone. It’s a process I much enjoy and I sincerely love the customizability, flexibility of the OS. In truth, if it worked as well as it does when it does work, it is far superior to iOS. But the fact that the experience frequent lags and has reliability issues, I honestly am starting to feel the itch to sacrifice that extra power for that reliability I had become used to in iOS. Yes it’s less powerful, yes apps don’t integrate well into the OS, but hey – it works all the time. All the time I’ve spent wasting trying to optimize the phone (as fun as it can be), is starting to fade in its appeal when I actually want to use this thing.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to how best to optimize this system? I’ve rooted this thing and have quarantined all the bloatware. I’ve yet to try roms. I’m waiting for my mini-sd card to arrive so I can backup all my stuff there then try “slimbean” and some stripped down versions of jellybean. But is my user case common among other GS3 users using stock roms? Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is there something I can do to enhance my experience?
Cheers and thanks in advance for your kind input!
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worst comess to worst wipe all data reformat phone mate, and if you wanna flash custom rom, try something easy like checkrom mate
Hi. Very interesting post.all though I've never really tried all the multi tasking stuff u do I could see how it could be frustrating. I too jumped ship from iPhone to gs3 a few months ago and I will never go back too Apple's controlled I junk .I find my gs3 to be the best..Sounds like you need to root since I'm rooted and on aokp ROM. The possibilities are endless with root .I have my phone dialed in too preform flawlessly and find no lag at all .I have had 10 to fifteen thing open and exsperiance no lag.well good luck with this issue..
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Hujbalo said:
Dear all,
I am a somewhat half-way happy owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. As an upgrade from the iPhone 4, I was welcomed to an open eco-system where could customize the user interface in a way that suited me perfectly. I love the way that apps integrate into the OS – the gallery and sending images through whatsapp, Line, and other photo editing apps is amazingly great. I currently use the stock JB4.1.1 firmware and I am rooted in order to quarantine bloatware. I use the premium version of Nova launcher. First impressions by this point are very good!
Now to the bad: Whether it is just my experience or not, this phone just doesn’t seem to be able to handle some of the most simple user case scenarios.
Take this example:
I am working, listening to music at the office and doing occasional browsing. But sometimes I need to be on the move to see clients in faraway locations. So I get up off my butt and get to the car, switch on the GPS and blue tooth and set it to my car stereo. By this point, I am trying to input an address while the phone is heating up, lagging like crazy and generally unresponsive. The music is jittering and the phone itself becomes unusable. I then have to restart the phone to return it to a usable state.
This occurs pretty frequently, not just in this user case, but sometimes doing the simplest of tasks: Music>switch to browsing>youtube video>back to browsing>change track>whatsapp>send photo>facebok: *bam phone starts lagging*.
This phone is inconsistent. Sometimes it works smooth as ever. When it does I’m smiling and I’m absolutely delighted. The large screen is so great. But quite frequently the phone is far less reliable than my old iPhone 4. Even that handset could handle GPS, music and browsing just fine. Perhaps it’s the way iOS handles multitasking? I am relatively tech savy and am aware of iOS multitasking not being “true multitasking” but in honestly, it just works. Particularly with the Tomtom app.
I am not here to bash the Samsung GS3, I’m just here to share my user experience with the hope that someone here can provide some advice on how to better optimize the system. I’ve spent many days and nights trying to love this thing: constantly making efforts to optimize this phone. It’s a process I much enjoy and I sincerely love the customizability, flexibility of the OS. In truth, if it worked as well as it does when it does work, it is far superior to iOS. But the fact that the experience frequent lags and has reliability issues, I honestly am starting to feel the itch to sacrifice that extra power for that reliability I had become used to in iOS. Yes it’s less powerful, yes apps don’t integrate well into the OS, but hey – it works all the time. All the time I’ve spent wasting trying to optimize the phone (as fun as it can be), is starting to fade in its appeal when I actually want to use this thing.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to how best to optimize this system? I’ve rooted this thing and have quarantined all the bloatware. I’ve yet to try roms. I’m waiting for my mini-sd card to arrive so I can backup all my stuff there then try “slimbean” and some stripped down versions of jellybean. But is my user case common among other GS3 users using stock roms? Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is there something I can do to enhance my experience?
Cheers and thanks in advance for your kind input!
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Remove icon labels from the homescreen using nova launcher and it reduces lag, have no idea what that means as I don't use nova launcher and don't have any lagg with touchwiz.
I found this answer using a simple search on google
Edit: Try apex or prime launcher (found that out too)
SGSIII is known to have problems with multitasking. Try using the mod below if you want to keep using stock based ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081&highlight=multitasking
The GS3 does indeed have multitasking issues. And it does bother me, hence why I'm buying the nexus 4.
I mean, really? 1GB of ram on a top notch device from Samsung?
But then again, my GS2 didn't have multitasking issus like S3, even though it only had 768mb of ram.
If you want to customize your device further, there is an sweet app called Gemini, where you can choose which app to startup and when it should autostart.
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Sorry. Wrong Sgs3
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Is software issues.
Backup and flash latest firmware.
Make sure you always have more than 2gb free in internal memory.
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This post got me interested since it comes from an unbiased user experience. So, here's what i did, i tried your experiences on my S3. I didn't experience any of the lag you are experiencing. I don't use whatsapp so i replaced it with skype and for satnav i tried navigation with google maps for an online test and TMN Drive (free offline maps to my country) which is based on NDrive. I also use exDialer and handcent to replace basic phone functions (calls and sms) but i kept stock browser.
I do notice my phone heating up a bit, nothing too special. This is normal and expected and only happens when i do heavy stuff. satnav = gps with maps streaming from a data connection heats it up a bit. Any game will also do it. Surprisingly, videos won't, and this includes browsing flash stuff.
Mine is an international i9300, running stock ICS, rooted. I'm also using Go launcher, since it's the only launcher yet that solves the constant launcher redrawing issues when multitasking. Although i'm rooted, i didn't make a single effort in debloating anything (it's just samsung stuff, don't have anything carrier related). By the way, Nova was just as bad as stock's touchwiz in that matter. Go is actually better in several other things so i'm not going back.
I've seen plenty of people saying poor stuff about stock's jellybean roms so i'm yet to jump on boat. It's not even available in my area too (not that would prevent anything), but it's working great + poor opinions all around so i'm keeping iCS for the time being.
To be honest, the only time i did have problems that would make me reboot my phone was when i tried a VERY buggy app once (not phone's fault since it even needed root to run) and the first week i had it because i got a faulty unit which got replaced. Ever since, i can't say i feel any of these issues and, like you, i'm a heavy multitasking user with a somewhat customized phone.
Since you're posting this, i believe you're still willing to push an extra effort to make that work so this is what i'd do: i'd try to make it similiar to mine, since mine works: Replace your launcher for Go launcher (it's totally free, no premium paid extra stuff) and even downgrade to ICS. If that doesn't fix it you may have a faulty unit like i had and that could be grounds to having it replaced for a new one.
Good luck with that and please ask me if you want me to run any more tests on mine, i'll gladly test whatever, so you know what results to expect from your phone.
Hey guys! I I am well impressed with the quick feedback I've received here! When I get my microsd card and begin experimenting with different roms, I will update my impressions. If there is no benefit though I will likely feel obliged to sell his thing.
So far I manage to make this thing usable by closing all apps before I open anything heavy handed like gps or a graphics intense game.
Thanks and keep the suggestions coming if you have any ideas. I appreciate it a lot.
Cheers
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kaynpayn said:
This post got me interested since it comes from an unbiased user experience. So, here's what i did, i tried your experiences on my S3. I didn't experience any of the lag you are experiencing. I don't use whatsapp so i replaced it with skype and for satnav i tried navigation with google maps for an online test and TMN Drive (free offline maps to my country) which is based on NDrive. I also use exDialer and handcent to replace basic phone functions (calls and sms) but i kept stock browser.
Mine is an international i9300, running stock ICS, rooted. I'm also using Go launcher, since it's the only launcher yet that solves the constant launcher redrawing issues when multitasking. Although i'm rooted, i didn't make a single effort in debloating anything (it's just samsung stuff, don't have anything carrier related). By the way, Nova was just as bad as stock's touchwiz in that matter. Go is actually better in several other things so i'm not going back.
I've seen plenty of people saying poor stuff about stock's jellybean roms so i'm yet to jump on boat. It's not even available in my area too (not that would prevent anything), but it's working great + poor opinions all around so i'm keeping iCS for the time being.
To be honest, the only time i did have problems that would make me reboot my phone was when i tried a VERY buggy app once (not phone's fault since it even needed root to run) and the first week i had it because i got a faulty unit which got replaced. Ever since, i can't say i feel any of these issues and, like you, i'm a heavy multitasking user with a somewhat customized phone.
Since you're posting this, i believe you're still willing to push an extra effort to make that work so this is what i'd do: i'd try to make it similiar to mine, since mine works: Replace your launcher for Go launcher (it's totally free, no premium paid extra stuff) and even downgrade to ICS. If that doesn't fix it you may have a faulty unit like i had and that could be grounds to having it replaced for a new one.
Good luck with that and please ask me if you want me to run any more tests on mine, i'll gladly test whatever, so you know what results to expect from your phone.
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That was an amazing reply. I'll be back on here frequently and checking, but I will make a longer post again when I re-flash and experiment with other roms. I'll let you know how it goes and it would be great to benchmark against your own experience. But it's interesting you note go-launcher as the way to go. It was something I used almost right out of the box simply because it was so flexible. Looked elegant and had huge customization options. I especially liked its inbuilt search feature in the app drawer. I did read more about it however, and found that folks experienced lag. I too felt this and after researching a bit I replaced it with nova-launcher.Thing immediately "felt" more snappy, albeit my aforementioned issues above. The consensus seems to be that nova-launcher is good, with folks on the play store as well as on these forums vouching for it. It some cases I find nova launcher is the default used in certain popular custom roms. I'll take your advice though and will experiment more when I get my microsd.
My phone is the GS3 international version, quad core with 1gb ram.
The issue I think is the jellybean firmware. When I was on ics I had no issues whatsoever but now on the latest jellybean I get some lag, especially after viewing heavy pages on dolphin browser.
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Hujbalo said:
Hey guys! I I am well impressed with the quick feedback I've received here! When I get my microsd card and begin experimenting with different roms, I will update my impressions. If there is no benefit though I will likely feel obliged to sell his thing.
So far I manage to make this thing usable by closing all apps before I open anything heavy handed like gps or a graphics intense game.
Thanks and keep the suggestions coming if you have any ideas. I appreciate it a lot.
Cheers
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I think the problem with your handset is the Jelly Bean 4.1.1 update. It is well know that JB doesn't have a really good Memory management, hell, the code is all broke at the sources and the phone will work at around 70~75% of its potencial.
I suggest you should try one of the ICS Stock ROMS, remove all the bloatware and then try... I bet you won't regret it.
Why am I saying this? Well, I was having almost the same issues as you in JB, the phone was overheating and lagging even more than my wife's DEFY lol, so i wiped the phone, flashed ICS and now is all good... I can even Play Dead Trigger, listen to music and chat through whatsapp and any of the apps will lag or close like in JB...
You should give it a try to ICS
does your lagging relates to heavy data usage through 3g/wifi?
To my knowledge, I am not downloading a lot of stuff. At least nothing beyond that which is considered normal.
jimbo77 said:
I think the problem with your handset is the Jelly Bean 4.1.1 update. It is well know that JB doesn't have a really good Memory management, hell, the code is all broke at the sources and the phone will work at around 70~75% of its potencial.
I suggest you should try one of the ICS Stock ROMS, remove all the bloatware and then try... I bet you won't regret it.
Why am I saying this? Well, I was having almost the same issues as you in JB, the phone was overheating and lagging even more than my wife's DEFY lol, so i wiped the phone, flashed ICS and now is all good... I can even Play Dead Trigger, listen to music and chat through whatsapp and any of the apps will lag or close like in JB...
You should give it a try to ICS
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That sounds like a very plausible reason! I will try this asap! :good:
i think the touch wiz thingy needs loads of ram which leaves less room for other stuff , CM 10 is a nice rom bit buggy with camera but makes phone really fast and has no lags =]
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That was an amazing reply. I'll be back on here frequently and checking, but I will make a longer post again when I re-flash and experiment with other roms. I'll let you know how it goes and it would be great to benchmark against your own experience. But it's interesting you note go-launcher as the way to go. It was something I used almost right out of the box simply because it was so flexible. Looked elegant and had huge customization options. I especially liked its inbuilt search feature in the app drawer. I did read more about it however, and found that folks experienced lag. I too felt this and after researching a bit I replaced it with nova-launcher.Thing immediately "felt" more snappy, albeit my aforementioned issues above. The consensus seems to be that nova-launcher is good, with folks on the play store as well as on these forums vouching for it. It some cases I find nova launcher is the default used in certain popular custom roms. I'll take your advice though and will experiment more when I get my microsd.
My phone is the GS3 international version, quad core with 1gb ram.
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I am pretty sure that your experience is not something I would consider as normal for gs3. I have tried what you had suggested and it seems to work fine. There is no lag and music is playing well. Phone is not overheating.
As I type : I have navigation activated, XDA app, Chrome Browser, Music playing in the back ground.
My set up is Rooted Stock DLJ4 JB ROM with FULL bloat ware activated and apex launcher.
Here are my suggestions.
1) Try chrome or Non stock browser.
2) Check your set up and Micro SD card, format of needed particularly if the music is stored on the card
3) Try a basic DLJ4 stock ROM or if you want only a rooted one there is one available which is only rooted stock ROM. In my view this talk about de-bloating is over rated and stock ROM works just as well.
4) Please do format your phone and start fresh and also format your SD card or consider changing it.
As for going back to iOS, do feel free to do so, but I bet that you will be back to using the Android in a couple of weeks
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I have been using cm10 with no real problems quite a while. NFC has been back and forth, other than that I'd recommend it over any other roms
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Hehe, I really don't want to go back to iOS. If I can get this to work as you guys have made it out to work, then this thing turds all over iOS for breakfast. But as I said, if these reliability issues persist - it's not a good look for android whether the experience is unique me or not.
I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?
That's fine. I'll return it.
have you tried running a diffrent launcher? TouchWiz is heavy handed.
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How about debloating?
What lags? Laucher, centain apps, all apps?
Thremix said:
I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?
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Root it, debloat it, change launcher..... It will become a beast.!
I don't remember the last time I expiranced a lag..
just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed. Is there anyway to root it without a windows pc? I have a mac, I know ODIN is usally used for root.. I REALLY want to keep it, but I really do feel like it needs to be rooted.
Thremix said:
I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?
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Thremix said:
That's fine. I'll return it.
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Thremix said:
just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed. Is there anyway to root it without a windows pc? I have a mac, I know ODIN is usally used for root.. I REALLY want to keep it, but I really do feel like it needs to be rooted.
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LOL.....
If you have the p900, use my rom.
You will need to use bootcamp and setup windows to use Odin probably. Or just use a friends computer, that part takes all of 2 minutes.
Also use nova launcher, apex, or something similar. Stock touchwiz is garbage.
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just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed.
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It really shouldn't be doing that.
It's one of the most powerful tablets available. (especially the Snapdragon variant)
It should not lag. You don't need to root this thing to make it usable, it's fast on stock already. There's something wrong with yours.
And it certainly isn't supposed to crash after you pair it.
Do a full wipe,
Disable as much bloatware as possible,
Install Apex or Nova, (MagUX is 400MB Ram, TW 800. Too much!)
Use Greenify to kill apps you dont need to have running once in a while (things like facebook keep restarting themselves)
And dump a .nomedia file in every folder that doesn't contain media needed for the music or notifications, or wallpapers. (You can still launch films from my files.)
That should speed it up.
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That's fine. I'll return it.
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just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed. Is there anyway to root it without a windows pc? I have a mac, I know ODIN is usally used for root.. I REALLY want to keep it, but I really do feel like it needs to be rooted.
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yes you can!
depends on which device you have....
if u have the snapdragon variants u can use- towelroot, google it.
I have the Wifi only version. I see odin 3.09 can if for mac and PC, is this odin version usable to root?
I rooted it, changed to Go Launcher, and froze a bunch of crap. I also uninsulated touchwiz. runs much better. I then installed adblock, and not chrome is zooming.. Much better. I love it so much now, I went and grabbed me the Logitech case. I'm a very happy camper.
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I rooted it, changed to Go Launcher, and froze a bunch of crap. I also uninsulated touchwiz. runs much better. I then installed adblock, and not chrome is zooming.. Much better. I love it so much now, I went and grabbed me the Logitech case. I'm a very happy camper.
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Lol i want to root but don't want to risk it yet. Will wait a few more months lol when my warranty is up in April
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I ended up sending it back, in the 5 days I have owned it it crashed at least twice a day, random freezing, and the web performance was very jittery. it constantly had almost 700 - 800 mb of free ram, thats with me closing everything, clearing out the cache, and having greenify on. That's a lot of work for such a pricy tablet. I haven't owned a tablet since the original ipad; I went to bestbuy and spent 5 minutes with the air and immediately wished the note ran as smooth, it was like liquid lol. I broke down and picked up a 32gb. The first thing I that grabbed my attention is how much better the apps look on it, they dont look all messed up. The tablet is also REALLY nice in on the vertical axis... like a magazine. I still have my note 3, and will buy a note tablet once they make a snapdragon for less than $500 bones. Or grab a surface 3 or 4 once they get it all worked out and lower the price.
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I ended up sending it back, in the 5 days I have owned it it crashed at least twice a day, random freezing, and the web performance was very jittery. it constantly had almost 700 - 800 mb of free ram, thats with me closing everything, clearing out the cache, and having greenify on. That's a lot of work for such a pricy tablet. I haven't owned a tablet since the original ipad; I went to bestbuy and spent 5 minutes with the air and immediately wished the note ran as smooth, it was like liquid lol. I broke down and picked up a 32gb. The first thing I that grabbed my attention is how much better the apps look on it, they dont look all messed up. The tablet is also REALLY nice in on the vertical axis... like a magazine. I still have my note 3, and will buy a note tablet once they make a snapdragon for less than $500 bones. Or grab a surface 3 or 4 once they get it all worked out and lower the price.
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Glad you found something that suits you better, that's the main goal! Best of luck to you!
That was bad luck for you.
My Galaxy Note never lags, is super fast. I enjoy it far more than the Ipad 3 or any previous tablet I got. And the 12.2 screen is perfect for reading books, drawing sketches, watching films, browsing the web...
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I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?
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That's fine. I'll return it.
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Glad you could wait 1 3/4 hours for a reply before deciding to return it.
The first time I had the tablet I copied a lot of pdf files in the sdcard. This make the tablet goes very slow because the file indexer read all the pdf ( 14GB approx). I let the indexer working for 2 or 3 days but usually it crash. Finally I decided to root the device for stop the index service because I really don't need to search into those files.
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The first time I had the tablet I copied a lot of pdf files in the sdcard. This make the tablet goes very slow because the file indexer read all the pdf ( 14GB approx). I let the indexer working for 2 or 3 days but usually it crash. Finally I decided to root the device for stop the index service because I really don't need to search into those files.
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If all your media stuff is in one or two folders you can put a blank ".nomedia" file in the dir to stop it. For me that wasn't an option so ya cleaning out the service was easier too
Hi guys i have just sideloaded OTA to my nexus 9. It seems to consume quite a lot of memory. when i first booted it was using 1.7-1.8gb.
I closed all the apps by swiping on the task switcher and got to 1.5gb as below
Could anyone who have been recently clean flashed tell me how much memory their device is using?
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That seems to be the norm based on my experience, even back on the previews.
I don't think there's much we can do. I uninstalled Facebook as it was the main culprit, but other apps just picked up the slack.
Google was dead wrong not giving this device 3 GB for the price we paid.
Same here
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Android OS seems to use a lot more than on nexus 5!
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Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.
You guys do know that's average use
Also even closing all the apps it will stay high because it's average over time
To get to the real one.
Go to developer options
Then to running services
HasnaCuz said:
Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.
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ok, you said this already on a thread you started!! if it was from day 1, why didn't you return it!
Used memory is a GOOD thing as long as it is releasing it when a new app requests it. Why have RAM sitting around unused when it can be used for helping the OS/apps run faster?
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Used memory is a GOOD thing as long as it is releasing it when a new app requests it. Why have RAM sitting around unused when it can be used for helping the OS/apps run faster?
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The ram usage is for a base system, the absolute minimum for the Google software stack to run. There is basically no more ram left for any other applications without paging out essential processes. Hence the home screen redraws, background media being killed, redraws on tab switching in chrome, lag on application start up. 2gb is simply not enough for a 64bit android environment.
I have 1.3GB Used, 21 in memory in the last 3hrs. No problems so far. I also have HW rendering turned on not software, that may help some too.
Here is another data point. Been running 6 for about 5 days, no problems at all. Bone stock, unrooted/unlocked.
Mine too guys. Clean installation and always 1.5-1.6 ram used in idle. Hopefully in the future this will change.
Best advice I can give... Use Fire-Ice kernel.
Use zram at about 200mb. And activate KSM.
KSM will save you at least 300mb (it did for me), while zram will make sure that you still have a bit of extra RAM for ram intensive apps, like chrome.
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I'm currently sitting at 1.3GB and I have not closed any of my extra applications.
Between Android OS, System UI, Android System and Launcher3 I'm using 1026MB.
This is not that bad
If you have background apps which are consuming a lot of memory even though you're not using them.
Use greenify to keep them closed, this will keep memory free for apps you actually use.
This managed to keep me afloat when it was still on Lollipop with its damned memory leaks. Im pretty sure it can handle MM.
device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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I'm on marshmallow and my N9 is faster than when it was on lollipop. Battery life is better.
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device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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Do a factory data resrt. That should help quite a bit.
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Does nobody think that the differing experiences are not due to hardware/Marshmallow but to errors in the coding of apps used? Google has extensive documentation on app coding and memory performance diagnostics - start here http://developer.android.com/training/articles/memory.html
Mine is around 1.6GB running on stock Marshmallow.
Grinds to a halt at times, so frustrating!
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Mine is around 1.6GB running on stock Marshmallow.
Grinds to a halt at times, so frustrating!
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Read my previous post. It will help you quite a lot.
For MM most people are recommending to use a custom ROM and Kernel.
It's the same on mine. Everything works great except multitasking. It's impossible to multitask like on phones (or video reviews of Nexus 9!).
The worst is Chrome - only one tab can stay loaded, if I have two or three or more it has to reload them every time I switch a tab.
- Yesterday I clered cache and data - it works better now (usually Google's apps like gmail and drive stay loaded - Chrome still has the same problems).
Android 6.0 MRA58K