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i dont know is that normal but my iconia a500 is very lagy whit only 2 pages opet like facebook or cnn...i have the latest 3.2 offical
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You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".

thanx i am hope that acer will fix that it is a big issue ,makes me nutz sometimes..

deio said:
You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.

Having the same problem since i downloaded ota 3.2. When i say lag, i meant like it takes me a couple of minutes to open up an app (not a specific app, almost any app causes the lag) and even that, when i try to execute anything with the app it takes a few more minutes. Android Market also tells me i have updates for my apps, click on update, and the download status bar will marquee endlessly and would not let me download anything. Was thinking i had a bad update.
My question is (and help me out cause i am a noob): Is there a way i can reflash the stock ota 3.2? I have tried the "check for update" but it will just tell me that my android is up-to-date. Please help, have tried looking in the forum but couldnt find a similar solution.
Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)

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Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)
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Get Titanium backup from Market - its the most usefull app for me that's why I got the paid version. It will backup all your apps with data. The free version would also do the job for you but the batch process of restoring apps later will require pressing OK on each app that is currently being restored.

Thanks for the fast reply. It seems that i am not able to download any apps from the moment because of the problem. Although internet seems to be working.

Try to download Titanium Backup from their web site. As for the lag, I'm on stock 3.2 and I don't have any lag, the tablet runs even faster than with 3.2, so something is causing the lag on your tablet, I suspect a bad application, it happened to me with my iPad and iTouch, that went slow as molasses, and it was bad application. Uninstalled and everything got fine.
So for those so quickly to blame any android tablet, pleas check first that really you didn't install any crap application, specially cracked or pirated ones, that is slowing the system.

deio said:
Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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LOL Epic fail

drkalo said:
Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.
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I also have this "LightSpeed" ROM, is laggy as hell, this is not a hardware problem, tried with a different Iconia, I also had a TF101, it was a bit better, but lack of USB on the slate made me chose the Iconia.
Sorry but this is about all Android tablets, and I must apologize to you, but I don't believe you. There is no smoothness in ANY Android device.
Ok, recommend a ROM that has the lowest lag, I'll try it.

I really don't get any slowdowns. I am however using tabooney with Richard trip kernel set tobuserspace in setcpu. Its been really good for me
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I'm running EZTerry's "stock" rooted 3.2 OTA ROM without any lag, choppiness, or basically any issues at all. My battery life is what it's always been since buying it in May.
Unfortunately for the OP, if you accepted the OTA you can no longer root so apps like Titanium Backup or flashing a different ROM are no longer an option. You'll have to wait for someone to get root for OTA 3.2.
If you don't mind losing some of your apps, you can try a factory reset, load one app at a time from the market, and see if you can determine if an app is causing your problems.
Deio, continuing to call the A500 community liars and idiots in thread after thread is likely not going to result in much help coming your way. At this point my only advice to you is to eBay your A500 and go buy an iPad. Clearly, the A500 is simply not the device for you and you're never going to be happy with it.

deio, buy a f***ing iPad and leave us alone!

Lag
I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1

My roommate has the Transformer and I have the Iconia, we both lag like hell every two to three hours for about 5-10mins.

gnygny said:
I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1
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I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.

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jyams said:
I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.
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My config A500 3.1 rooted, I didn't have this issue be4 3.1 update.

Try thors newest v11. I only get lag on this website for some reason, it takes a quick second for the whole page to show. Its hit and miss. Every now and then it will go away. I watch alot of 720p videos. Both streaming from my home server or downloaded to one of my sdcards. All my daily uses, email, surfing, videos, etc. have almost no lag.

Ok here we go...
The best I can guess from reading about all of your lag problems is that there is a program or programs that are running in your background processes and eating up cpu/memory. Go to settings-applications-running applications and see what is on right now; subsequently see what is running directly after a reboot. If a bunch of random apps are running, it is very likely they are causing the lag. Especially if they are syncing or accessing the web. My suggestion would be to either uninstall these apps or go into their individual settings and turn off anything that would have it constantly working (not just running, it is ok for some apps to run in the background, as Android is programmed to control memory usage while allowing apps to run when not it use, but specifically 'working' in the background will eat up resources). Also, how often do you have your syncs scheduled? Any info that you do not need to have constantly synced (ie backup email addresses, facebook, weather intervals, etc.) should be either turned off or set to sync only a few times a day. For example, I have 11 running apps right now (been running without a reboot for a few days), consisting mainly of core Android processes, my keyboard, email, cpu scaler, and just 2 apps that I have downloaded that run in the background (mind you I have about 50 apps installed).
Furthermore...
All this talk about the iPad and how smooth it is...that's because it utilizes hardware accelerated graphics, something that Android will now have with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0. True, the level of smoothness on an iPad typically surpasses that of an Android device, but that is soon to change. Then what will the iPad really have? A boring home screen that consists of nothing more than only our app drawer and a ton of games. Android brings WAY more to the table, no question about it.
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I am running a custom rom (Taboonay 2.1b) with an overclocked/undervolted processor (1.4ghz -150mv) and my Iconia gets kick ass battery life. I need to really try to kill this thing, no joke. I play hi-def/3d games, watch flash content on the web, Netflix, internet browsing, email, create word docs, use external usb peripherals, and more. To get the best battery life you just have to be smart about it.
Suggestions:
Turn off auto backlight. I don't think it works very well on the Iconia anyway, I have my brightness set at about 20% and it's perfectly visible (if you're used to having it brighter give it some time, you'll adjust) and when I am in bright light I simply change it as needed.
Check sync schedule. Weather really only needs to be updated like every 3 hours at most. Do you really need to know the temperature AS it changes? Don't think so.
Do you have multiple email addresses? Unless they are work related, you can probably just set them to sync manually and check it a couple times a day without it turning on itself.
Facebook/Twitter syncing is the devil. Unless you are a 15 year old girl that needs to know what her bff is doing at all times, slow down the sync on these apps!
Is your WiFi set to turn off with your screen? This is a BIG ONE! Settings-Wireless/Networks-WiFi Settings-WiFi Disconnect Policy-When Screen Turns Off. You'll notice a change immediately.
For some more info on what's killing your battery, and therefore more than likely sucking up resources and causing lag, go to Settings-Applications-Battery Use. The blue lines should line up accordingly: Your device should only be Awake and have the WiFi on when the Screen is on, except for a few dashes here and there for normal syncing. Large blue squares of Awake when the screen isn't on means something is running in the background that probably shouldn't be. WiFi on all the time kills battery. Get it? Also, the list of apps that take up battery should only be ones that YOU KNOW you are using on a constant basis. If something is on there that you don't normally use a lot, it means it's running in the background and sucking up a lot of resources (other than screen, tablet idle, and Android OS, these should be there).
Moral of the story...
I gave my 3 year old kids my iPhone. It's a kids toy, same with the iPad. Period. An Android device is one of the most powerful, customizable and capable devices available. There is a lot more that can be done with it than with most other more simple devices. With great power comes great responsibility. Take control of your device, what you do with it and what it does. Lag? What lag.
Phew. I'm a little drunk at the moment, so hope I didn't go too crazy here. What was this post about by the way? Ha! Hit the thanks button if this made any sense to anyone out there

Honestly, I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm running stock unrooted 3.2(mostly because I've been too lazy to revert back to a rooted ROM)and have very little to no lag. Realizing that its all personal perception and that I gave my Ipod to my kid so I don't really have anything to compare it to, I'm way more than happy with the performance of my tablet. The only time I have to wait is when I open up the Acer content folders, sometimes it takes a second or two for them to open. I can definitely live with that, if the trade off is a fully usable tablet that I can customize to my own needs. Battery life is well above expectations as well for me. Usually two days of semi-heavy use before I start to get that panicky feeling that comes when my battery meter drops below 30%.

Z2 Tablet vs Antutu benchmark app

Hi all,
I discovered the Antutu benchmark performance testing app, as I was looking into some lagging i've been experiencing when switching between apps. I've even tried improving performance using SetCPU, but i'm still not completely impressed with this tablet compared with a gen 2 iPad I had previously.
My tablet stacked up OK in the test, but the standard performance of a couple of the Samsung tablets and an HTC phone (I think) was quite a bit better. This was a bit of a shock, as I understood that this tablet was supposed to be a pretty solid performer.
Does anyone have thoughts on this? Are my expectations unrealistic? Is there something I should do?
At the moment the tablet is rooted and running Apex Launcher.
Thanks!

fearofbirds said:
Hi all,
I discovered the Antutu benchmark performance testing app, as I was looking into some lagging i've been experiencing when switching between apps. I've even tried improving performance using SetCPU, but i'm still not completely impressed with this tablet compared with a gen 2 iPad I had previously.
My tablet stacked up OK in the test, but the standard performance of a couple of the Samsung tablets and an HTC phone (I think) was quite a bit better. This was a bit of a shock, as I understood that this tablet was supposed to be a pretty solid performer.
Does anyone have thoughts on this? Are my expectations unrealistic? Is there something I should do?
At the moment the tablet is rooted and running Apex Launcher.
Thanks!
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Both Samsung and HTC are known to be cheating in benchmarks and HTC is still doing it. That said, I don't care about benchmarks. I know what the hardware is capable of and I where hoping for some custom roms to advantage of, but things are moving slow and I may have been a bit too optimistic. One thing I am very happy about compared to my ipad is ram. My ipad keeps killing apps and have to reload when I return. Even having two tabs open in safari and trying to copy/paste between them is a big hassle. I am very happy with mine and have no problems, except marking text is broken at least in chrome (if you drag to extend your selection, it will drop to next line, making it almost impossible to mark the multiple words you want).

pmeinert said:
Both Samsung and HTC are known to be cheating in benchmarks and HTC is still doing it. That said, I don't care about benchmarks. I know what the hardware is capable of and I where hoping for some custom roms to advantage of, but things are moving slow and I may have been a bit too optimistic. One thing I am very happy about compared to my ipad is ram. My ipad keeps killing apps and have to reload when I return. Even having two tabs open in safari and trying to copy/paste between them is a big hassle. I am very happy with mine and have no problems, except marking text is broken at least in chrome (if you drag to extend your selection, it will drop to next line, making it almost impossible to mark the multiple words you want).
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Hmm... OK. THanks for the thoughts. I guess it might be that the niggling problems with the z2 are going to be sorted out with software updates by Sony as time progresses - hopefully that is the case.
And i'm really not completely sure of how custom ROMs work and whether they would help, but if that is a prospect i'd definitely take advantage of. For interest, which custom ROM that may soon come out would you recommend? And why?

fearofbirds said:
Hmm... OK. THanks for the thoughts. I guess it might be that the niggling problems with the z2 are going to be sorted out with software updates by Sony as time progresses - hopefully that is the case.
And i'm really not completely sure of how custom ROMs work and whether they would help, but if that is a prospect i'd definitely take advantage of. For interest, which custom ROM that may soon come out would you recommend? And why?
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I must be lucky, because I don't experience any of the those touch problem people report. Maybe Sony's have used parts from more suppliers and only parts from a specific supplier experience the problem. I don't know, I just hope for everybody and that it get sorted out.
It is difficult to recommend any rom, when there are none. This is my first Android tablet and I have no experience with the rom situation. However on my phones I have been using carbon rom with great success. It is based on Cyanogenmod, but has additional functionality from other roms. Especially I like the expanded desktop (immersive/fullscreen) functionality and slim-shortcuts to different settings including toggling expanded desktop. I am not using it at the moment though, because I have updated my Htc One m7 to latest Sense 6 rom (or rather a custom rom based on original Sense 6 rom) and whatever HTC have done, it is working, I have never had such a speedy rom. I also like the makeover HTC did with Sense6, so I think I will stay with it, although I used to dislike Sense.

Help me to FINALLY start using my Z3C after 10 weeks of fear!

I bought my Z3C 10 weeks ago and still haven't used it other than turning it on for a few minutes etc. I charged it for the first time yesterday and am now ready to start! I had been waiting in the hope that CM11/12 would come to it, but I think it's time to forget about that happening and just start using it.
I'm pretty ignorant of all tech things so would really appreciate any help in being able to achieve the following with it:
Rooted
Free of bloatware
updateable OTA
simple android launcher
all the while without losing quality of camera etc..
I've been suggested just using google now launcher and disabling apps and I've been suggested XPOSED and I've been suggested AOSP and I'm a little confused as to what to go for. I see FXP just posted this: http://fxpblog.co/releases/aosp-lollipop-release-from-fxp-just-in-time-for-christmas/
But I'm not even too sure if that meets my criteria?
It's a phone used 99% for business and once I set it up once, I want that to be it and don't want to be reinstalling ROMS etc. I'd like whatever I do now, to last me until I get rid of the phone in maybe 2 years time as I can't have any downtime (which is why I've chosen the Christmas holidays to migrate from my current phone to the Z3C too )
If anyone could please please advise I'd really appreciate it and you'd be greatly helping me!

Why root it at all?
There's hardly any bloat, and what there is van be disabled.
Adblock plus works for both 3g and wifi almost as well as a adaway.
Install Nova launcher and you are done.

cormie said:
I bought my Z3C 10 weeks ago and still haven't used it other than turning it on for a few minutes etc. I charged it for the first time yesterday and am now ready to start! I had been waiting in the hope that CM11/12 would come to it, but I think it's time to forget about that happening and just start using it.
I'm pretty ignorant of all tech things so would really appreciate any help in being able to achieve the following with it:
Rooted
Free of bloatware
updateable OTA
simple android launcher
all the while without losing quality of camera etc..
I've been suggested just using google now launcher and disabling apps and I've been suggested XPOSED and I've been suggested AOSP and I'm a little confused as to what to go for. I see FXP just posted this: http://fxpblog.co/releases/aosp-lollipop-release-from-fxp-just-in-time-for-christmas/
But I'm not even too sure if that meets my criteria?
It's a phone used 99% for business and once I set it up once, I want that to be it and don't want to be reinstalling ROMS etc. I'd like whatever I do now, to last me until I get rid of the phone in maybe 2 years time as I can't have any downtime (which is why I've chosen the Christmas holidays to migrate from my current phone to the Z3C too )
If anyone could please please advise I'd really appreciate it and you'd be greatly helping me!
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Its impossible to root without losing camera quality. Why would you even want to? Its a stable clean rom they have on there and the extra's baked in are only useful. Just delete all the crap apps, possible with my T-Mobile version (Netherlands) and just keep some of the sony stuff. The walkman app is my default music player since it supports folder playing.
Seriously just use the phone its a quality product.

Thanks a lot for the replies folks, really appreciate it, especially Christmas morning
The reason I wanted to root, is just to have it open for anything that might need root access in the coming 2 years or so of use. I think there's a few apps I have on my Motorolla RAZR-I XT890 (phone I've been using for the last 1.5/2 years) which need root access:
AdAway (if adblock plus does the same job then that should be fine, but I listen to music a lot on youtube and don't want ads there if possible)
Auto Ring (I THINK this needs root access, it's an app that lets you white list certain numbers/contacts so that if your phone is on silent, it still rings - pretty important for me)
InCall Recorder (again I THINK it needs root, it can record calls internally, not using the microphone like most of these apps do - actually, it's never worked properly on my Razr-I, but I'd like to have it there)
Root Explorer (think it needs root, I use this to disable apps, replace default launcher etc, maybe it's not necessary anymore?)
I'm happy to replace all the above but I also use:
CERBERUS - This needs Root access to be hidden from the app drawer, I'm not sure if it needs it for other functions too, but this is very important.
I've a very specific list of apps I use for my phone, k9 mail, dialer one, jorte calendar and widgetsoid, I'm sure these will all still work fine and if the camera will instantly lose quality and ability on a root, I'd prefer to avoid it if possible?
One important thing to note by the way... Before I've had to hire an android expert to set my phone up for me to root it, install a rom etc. I don't like to mess around with things I'm not familiar with and prefer to pay someone who is guaranteed to do it right, rather than researching for hours how to do it, so I'd be looking for the same this time if I'm going down the root route, but if that's not necessary, that could be even easier!

Cerberus doesn't need root to be hidden!
Sent from my iPhone 5S

Oh really? So maybe I'd actually get away without rooting so? What are the main reasons to root so?

cormie said:
Oh really? So maybe I'd actually get away without rooting so? What are the main reasons to root so?
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Honestly, despite feeling like I needed to root my previous N4, I haven't found the need to root this phone. In terms of what I want, there's really nothing pressing that outweighs the loss of camera functionality, etc. In fact, there were a bunch of things that I expected would need root that actually didn't.
The back button on PieControl works with accessibility and doesn't actually need root any more, which was my major worry. My airplane mode and GPS Power Toggles don't work, but those are easily accessible in the editable Quick Settings dropdown. Cerberus is hidden from the app drawer, though it isn't installed as a system app. My Tasker stuff that deals with music toggle pause/next/back works if I use the shell command to input keyevents (despite all documentation saying that should only work with a rooted phone). The computer app lets you do backups and restores, so you don't need nandroid backups, and Titanium Backup is not as big a deal for me, despite its utility for rolling back app upgrades. There is some stuff Secure Settings can't do, like turn the pattern lock on or off, but that's probably the only one I care about, and once L rolls in a month or so, I think that should be taken care of.

Thanks a lot for the comprehensive reply. If there was one place I thought I'd be getting people telling me I should root and do this and that to the phone, XDA would be it, given the responses so far, I guess I'm better off just leaving well alone then? It's good that cerberus is hidden from the app drawer, but you just reminded me of the more important root required install to system app ability. I guess as long as my phone doesn't fall into the hands of a professional phone thief who can clear cerberus with ease, I might be ok though?
Everything else I'll hopefully get by with too, but I'd really prefer youtube without ads!
So given that I might just leave well alone and start using it... How can I just start fresh now? Maybe a factory reset (even though I haven't used the phone)... but what should be the first things I should install to allow me disable/remove all the bloatware and replace the home launcher etc? If anyone could give even a mini step by step it would be amazing!

There's hardly any bloatware. I suggest you use the phone as it is. Just install all the updates from update center and go on using. I'm sure you'll find the Sony launcher better than most other launchers. It grows on you
Sent from my Compact Beast The Third.

You really don't need to root this phone, the softwares are well written as not buggy, most apps these days world's well without much tweaking.
This is my first phony airport any urges to root.

Thanks again everyone!
I'm not sure I mentioned, or if it emulates from my posts, but I'm quite particular about the way I have it set up hence wanting to remove pretty much any app I don't use, I've been using ZEAM launcher for about 4 years on my current phone and previous. It hasn't been updated in about 2 years now, but as long as I can have the following I'll be ok:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I think I'm probably overthinking all this and just need to start using it

I'm pretty new here, and I do have a z3 compact, but how did you root it? I'd like to mod some games and they require rooting to do so thats my reasoning.

RyukuZ said:
I'm pretty new here, and I do have a z3 compact, but how did you root it? I'd like to mod some games and they require rooting to do so thats my reasoning.
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Right now rooting involves unlocking bootloader. There is no root method for locked bootloader

What would be the best way to disable/delete/replace apps I wonder and how do you know what's safe to disable and what's not? Is it just a case of disabling everything or can you delete apps too? Anything else I should be aware of before I start the migrate?

cormie said:
What would be the best way to disable/delete/replace apps I wonder and how do you know what's safe to disable and what's not? Is it just a case of disabling everything or can you delete apps too? Anything else I should be aware of before I start the migrate?
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You may try using the Search option in the XDA forum. All your questions have been already answered days or weeks ago

BarajaVLC said:
You may try using the Search option in the XDA forum. All your questions have been already answered days or weeks ago
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I'm so afraid though :angel: hehehe

cormie said:
I'm so afraid though :angel: hehehe
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I also hqve the razr I and looking to get a new upgrade as razr has become so slow
How does z3 compact compare, spec wise and physically as I found razr was perfect size

mickeystar said:
I also hqve the razr I and looking to get a new upgrade as razr has become so slow
How does z3 compact compare, spec wise and physically as I found razr was perfect size
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It's meant to be a lot better, I haven't started using it, but size wise it's pretty much the same, you won't notice a difference using it or in your pocket lets say.
My razr has been slow too, but I think I'm just putting it through too much but other than that it's been a great phone.
I need a phone that can handle multi intensive apps running at the same time, maps, phone, music etc. I wouldn't think you'd be disappointed.

cormie said:
It's meant to be a lot better, I haven't started using it, but size wise it's pretty much the same, you won't notice a difference using it or in your pocket lets say.
My razr has been slow too, but I think I'm just putting it through too much but other than that it's been a great phone.
I need a phone that can handle multi intensive apps running at the same time, maps, phone, music etc. I wouldn't think you'd be disappointed.
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razr has become very temperamental
i have found chrome to be incredibly slow and not even bothered with the latest few updates, music app stops randomly in general lots of lag. can no longer be bothered to wait for the 4.4 update
Looks like ill be switching to the z3 compact

cormie said:
I bought my Z3C 10 weeks ago and still haven't used it other than turning it on for a few minutes etc. I charged it for the first time yesterday and am now ready to start! I had been waiting in the hope that CM11/12 would come to it, but I think it's time to forget about that happening and just start using it.
I'm pretty ignorant of all tech things so would really appreciate any help in being able to achieve the following with it:
Rooted
Free of bloatware
updateable OTA
simple android launcher
all the while without losing quality of camera etc..
I've been suggested just using google now launcher and disabling apps and I've been suggested XPOSED and I've been suggested AOSP and I'm a little confused as to what to go for. I see FXP just posted this: http://fxpblog.co/releases/aosp-lollipop-release-from-fxp-just-in-time-for-christmas/
But I'm not even too sure if that meets my criteria?
It's a phone used 99% for business and once I set it up once, I want that to be it and don't want to be reinstalling ROMS etc. I'd like whatever I do now, to last me until I get rid of the phone in maybe 2 years time as I can't have any downtime (which is why I've chosen the Christmas holidays to migrate from my current phone to the Z3C too )
If anyone could please please advise I'd really appreciate it and you'd be greatly helping me!
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Don't root, disable bloat where you can. Google now launcher on this phone is great!
May I also recommend the ringke fusion clear case.

Pretty unimpressed with my S6 (lag, lag, stutter ... )

I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
The stock rom eats 8G of the internal storage.
It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
Too much bloatware. A whole microsoft suite (among other things) that I will never use and cannot uninstall
Touchwiz launcher, its not really great
On the plus side
the finger scanner is good.
The screen is really nice, but I suppose rendering all those pixels is whats causing it to lag like crazy.
Pleased that samsung made a theme chooser. At last we can remove the awful default turquoise colours.
But I immediately know I'm going to have to root and put a custom rom on here to get it working to my satisfaction .... is there any ROM recommendations to remove all lags, stutters and bloatware?
Is it just me? I am surprised I don't see a ton of people complaining about this

Im on xtrestolite deo mod and have no of the problem i had with stock u could always get titanium backup and freeze all that bloat might help. I know that when i ran stock it would often run out of ram. Now i have betwewn 1 and 1.4gb free.

Wait for the Marshmallow update and judge it again then. Samsung redesigned the whole TouchWiz thing launcher, icons, performance everything. From what I read from the beta is really promising and fast.

Never saw any lag, stock or otherwise. I did occasionally have some low ram redraws on stock, but on roms those are long gone. Maybe take a look in your application manager at what's running and see if there's any unnecessary junk running that's eating your ram. Did it start or persist from any old software, or show up from new software ie updates?

benjmiester said:
Never saw any lag, stock or otherwise. I did occasionally have some low ram redraws on stock, but on roms those are long gone. Maybe take a look in your application manager at what's running and see if there's any unnecessary junk running that's eating your ram. Did it start or persist from any old software, or show up from new software ie updates?
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Me too, no lag at all, with stock BUT... if you run MM BETA and then go back to 5.1.1 you will see a very "slow device"

This phone does lag like hell, I had one about 7 months a go and that wasn't too bad.
Picked one up last week and the difference is shocking now, have tried different launchers and no difference.
Makes me laugh how Samsung can't seem to make a phone that is smooth. I have even swapped this out for another one.
All this guff about no more lag in the press conference.

Never had any issues even before I rooted and put a stock modified rom, only thing I would have liked better is battery life, but I get a days use out of it atleast

No offense, but anyone saying the S6 doesn't lag or stutter must either not know what we're talking about or have low fps eyes ?. This phone is an absolute lagfest on stock firmware.
Try scrolling in Google+ or even Tapatalk and you'll see dropped frames all over the place.
Just about the only thing that helps is flashing a custom kernel and enabling enforced mode (try Unikernel for size). That makes a world of difference.

yes I have the s6 since 4 months now. before I had a oneplus one. this was fast. but the s6 is very Laggy. however it has the best benchmarks but the Ui it's definitely Laggy on every edge. so I had a lot of other devices before. for me the most qualcom devices are running smoother. but there are some other positive aspects on the s6
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st0kes said:
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
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It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
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Lag?? U sure, mate? I'm using the S6 for more than a few months now and there is no lag in the UI. Maybe some minor frame drops occasionally (I'm sensitive to those , most people don't notice them), but no lag. It's not normal.
Mine is stock with some native apps disabled. Also I jave turned off the smart manager protection. And I can compare it with Nexus 5. I'v had many Android devices and I know what I'm talking about.

st0kes said:
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
The stock rom eats 8G of the internal storage.
It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
Too much bloatware. A whole microsoft suite (among other things) that I will never use and cannot uninstall
Touchwiz launcher, its not really great
On the plus side
the finger scanner is good.
The screen is really nice, but I suppose rendering all those pixels is whats causing it to lag like crazy.
Pleased that samsung made a theme chooser. At last we can remove the awful default turquoise colours.
But I immediately know I'm going to have to root and put a custom rom on here to get it working to my satisfaction .... is there any ROM recommendations to remove all lags, stutters and bloatware?
Is it just me? I am surprised I don't see a ton of people complaining about this
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buy another phone. it's that simple.
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e34v8 said:
Lag?? U sure, mate? I'm using the S6 for more than a few months now and there is no lag in the UI. Maybe some minor frame drops occasionally (I'm sensitive to those , most people don't notice them), but no lag. It's not normal.
Mine is stock with some native apps disabled. Also I jave turned off the smart manager protection. And I can compare it with Nexus 5. I'v had many Android devices and I know what I'm talking about.
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I've also owned countless Android devices (including Nexus). Most recently I came from an OPO and a Z3C before the S6. GUI lag/stutter is a pet peeve of mine with Android, and while the OPO was almost perfect after some optimization and the Z3C turned out OK, the S6 is frankly a joke in comparison. Especially considering its theoretically superior performance.

innit said:
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Do you always give up so easily?
I think I'll try the Samsung marshmallow firmware, cheers for the tip @Riardon ... if its just the same I'll try some custom roms.
I'm kinda glad others confirm the lag/stuttering and its not just me.
For comparison, the phone I am replacing is a S5 running Exodus rom, there is absolutely zero lag or frames dropped in any scrolling or animations. It really makes the S6 look bad. Not what I expected as the S5 is like 18 months old now.

Here is a quick video I made for the non-believers out there. S6 is on the left. It doesn't matter that the video is not in focus (because of my finger getting in the way), the point I am trying to make is scrolling should be smooth on a new, expensive Android phone, I am astonished at how bad it is on the S6. Other places in the phone are also bad, Chrome is the worst though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKos5oFPyo

Keep in mind, however, if you do root you will most likely trip the knox counter on your device. This could cause some problems with warranty, and you would not be able to use Samsung pay on the device. If these things don't matter to you. Rooting is okay.

st0kes said:
Here is a quick video I made for the non-believers out there. S6 is on the left. It doesn't matter that the video is not in focus (because of my finger getting in the way), the point I am trying to make is scrolling should be smooth on a new, expensive Android phone, I am astonished at how bad it is on the S6. Other places in the phone are also bad, Chrome is the worst though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKos5oFPyo
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Can't access your video for some reason...
M..N said:
Keep in mind, however, if you do root you will most likely trip the knox counter on your device. This could cause some problems with warranty, and you would not be able to use Samsung pay on the device. If these things don't matter to you. Rooting is okay.
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Rooting/flashing ROMs/kernels can be done without tripping knox by using the engineering bootloader. You'll find great tutorials here on xda.

My S6 has never lagged, not even on stock. I found it to be smooth in generally and I am someone who looks at framedrops and any other possible slowdowns.

Also guys don't forget to check your apps. It may sound weird but some well known apps causing some extra lag on top of what TouchWiz has. For example I found out that SwiftKey on my devices creates some extra lag and it's slower than other keyboards. Some apps are just not optimized well and this the reason some guys see worse lags and stutters than others. This one is tricky to determine those apps but you have to experiment. TouchWiz as it is now yes it's laggy but not worse than older TouchWin on S5 for example. Still needs work but Marshmallow is promising. Wait until then guys you may surprised pleasantly. Unfortunately some apps on Android running like sh***t and we blame the phone sometimes. And remember to always keep your phone at minimal. Disable all extra stuff you don't use and use only the apps you actually use often or truly need. This is for all phones not only for this one.

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Can't access your video for some reason...
Rooting/flashing ROMs/kernels can be done without tripping knox by using the engineering bootloader. You'll find great tutorials here on xda.
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If I understand correctly using the engineering bootloader results in the loss of use of the fingerprint scanner.

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If I understand correctly using the engineering bootloader results in the loss of use of the fingerprint scanner.
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Correct. So worth it imho though.

I think I have to return my S7 Edge...

I took the jump to Android from Windows Phone and I really liked the S7 Edge form factor and looks however it is just too buggy and has hardware problems so I think I might have to try an iPhone (scary). Here are my list of problems with the S7 Edge:
SD card problems - known issue HW rev problems - nag screen as well as lost apps installed on the SD card
Random reboots - many a day
Thumbprint recognition - seems like it takes me 3-4 thumbprints every time - why?
English Language Pack storage bug - eats all my space - it keeps coming back even if disabled - 2nd time ran out of space on the phone - 16-18GB footprint for this - why? what does this app do?
WIPES MY PHONES - this has happened TWICE - this is the deal breaker - I even turned on 'avoid turning on while in pocket' - doesn't matter when i go for hikes or ski in the cold maybe - it WIPES MY ENTIRE PHONE - not good
bugs with texting and message+ - seem like the phone freezes when texting - can't finish typing - message+ crashes - this is major pain
Lots of apps crashing randomly - not sure why
I really want to make this phone work but the WIPING of the DEVICE twice for me means full day of lost productivity for my traveling job. I can't be rebuilding my phone every few weeks. Is this acceptable for Samsung's flagship phone? I am open and patient to technology and not biased one way or the other (I do miss some features on my Windows Phone).

I think if You are having that many issues with your S7 Edge then you Should return it! Just because this is an Android forum doesn't have to mean going to an iPhone is scary. I live in both the Android and iPhone world and it's a-ok! Now a non-jailbroken iPhone can be much more limiting than a stock Android device but it is still a nice phone and works well out of the box. Maybe you should just return your phone as a defective one or look at the apps your are installing to see if one or two or more are causing the conflicts and issues and reboots. I haven't experienced the problems that you have except reboots after installing the latest version of iHeart Radio (now using an older version and absol6no problems) and the Good Lock app from Samsung was rebooting my phone so I Uninstalled it right away.
My S7 Edge has to be one of the coolest and most beautiful phones I have ever owned. Out of the box it is very, very customizable and even without rooting still offers so many possibilities that I could never do with my iPhone straight out of the box. There are alternatives to try out for the apps that you are currently using and where you might end up liking even more than your current favorites (I suggest trying Yaata text messaging app. Works very well! There's a discussion thread here on XDA-DEVELOPERS too). Good luck with your decision.
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This really seems like a bad piece you should replace, and you will be probably fine. I havent encountered any problems aside of one SD card dying unexpectedly (probably faulty SD tho), and the poor palm rejection when typipng with one hand/upside down (this has however been largely fixed by the latest update). Otherwise, no problems at all.

burrzoo said:
I think if You are having that many issues with your S7 Edge then you Should return it! Just because this is an Android forum doesn't have to mean going to an iPhone is scary. I live in both the Android and iPhone world and it's a-ok! Now a non-jailbroken iPhone can be much more limiting than a stock Android device but it is still a nice phone and works well out of the box. Maybe you should just return your phone as a defective one or look at the apps your are installing to see if one or two or more are causing the conflicts and issues and reboots. I haven't experienced the problems that you have except reboots after installing the latest version of iHeart Radio (now using an older version and absol6no problems) and the Good Lock app from Samsung was rebooting my phone so I Uninstalled it right away.
My S7 Edge has to be one of the coolest and most beautiful phones I have ever owned. Out of the box it is very, very customizable and even without rooting still offers so many possibilities that I could never do with my iPhone straight out of the box. There are alternatives to try out for the apps that you are currently using and where you might end up liking even more than your current favorites (I suggest trying Yaata text messaging app. Works very well! There's a discussion thread here on XDA-DEVELOPERS too). Good luck with your decision.
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Thanks burrzoo. This is my first Android so maybe I had high expectations or maybe I just got a bad one. I am patient and understand bugs, random oddities since I have only owned Windows Phones up until this point if that tells you about device/HW patience, hacked many ROMs here, etc. so I like the extensibility of the Android platform as a replacement but I guess the Verizon S7 is locked so no custom ROMs? I will say however none of those Windows phones every wiped my phone like the S7 did twice.
As far as installed apps I have really basic apps - Office, Outlook, social apps. Nothing special really. The English Language Pack is an Android installed app that comes with the S7 so there is no way to remove it apparently. I did disable a lot of the default Google, Samsung and Android apps since i don't use them. Maybe i have to leave it more stock to avoid problems? I dunno - if you guys can help me explain the WIPING of my device or HOW to prevent this that would go a long way.

markS7 said:
This is my first Android so maybe I had high expectations or maybe I just got a bad one.
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amazing how all that could happen on your first android device. coming from Apple mate?

Jomari29 said:
amazing how all that could happen on your first android device. coming from Apple mate?
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Jomari,
No, I have only owned Windows Phones. I am open to either platform as a replacement. I have never owned an iPhone either but if this is the first class android experience then I would say it hasn't been so great.

I did not experienced all those problems you mentioned, my S7E is buttery smooth.

Strange, I'm having none of these issues. I would suggest you might have a faulty model.

I'd say you have a defective device.
Mine has no issues at all so far.
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xchasa said:
I'd say you have a defective device.
Mine has no issues at all so far.
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okay, thanks everyone. Looks like I am past the 14 days return policy and Samsung warranty won't swap hardware. Any thoughts on what I can do to get a new device? Samsung offered for me to send in the device and they can evaluate it and replace faulty HW - should i do that?
I did find two things in my searches for some of my issues:
1) There is an 'Auto-Factory Reset' device option set to ON on the S7 Edge under 'Lock Screen and security' > 'Secure lock settings' > 'Auto-factory reset' on/off toggle. I think this may be the main problem on the device I am trying to solve. On my Verizon device the checkbox is greyed out. Can you guys disable auto-wipe on your devices? The question becomes how is it auto-factory reset in my pocket when i have 'detect device in pocket' and i have locked screen. Is it flipping on somehow with movement? Why would they not have a 'are you sure you want to factory/reset?' if this is accidental?
2) On a fun note - I think I found an Android easter egg or maybe not? on 6.0.1 when I was trying to enable dev unlock (not sure if it is documented) - you can play an Android Flappy bird game:
Go to Settings > About Phone > Android Version 6.0.1 and then click it about 5 times in succession rapidly - it unlocks an Android Flappy Bird mini-game - LOL

I can confirm that on AT&T variant you can toggle the Auto-Factory Reset.
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I can confirm that on AT&T variant you can toggle the Auto-Factory Reset.
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crap. so looks like with AT&T you can disable but Verizon maybe not? Anyone else with Verizon have it ungreyed?

markS7 said:
I took the jump to Android from Windows Phone and I really liked the S7 Edge form factor and looks however it is just too buggy and has hardware problems so I think I might have to try an iPhone (scary). Here are my list of problems with the S7 Edge:
SD card problems - known issue HW rev problems - nag screen as well as lost apps installed on the SD card
Random reboots - many a day
Thumbprint recognition - seems like it takes me 3-4 thumbprints every time - why?
English Language Pack storage bug - eats all my space - it keeps coming back even if disabled - 2nd time ran out of space on the phone - 16-18GB footprint for this - why? what does this app do?
WIPES MY PHONES - this has happened TWICE - this is the deal breaker - I even turned on 'avoid turning on while in pocket' - doesn't matter when i go for hikes or ski in the cold maybe - it WIPES MY ENTIRE PHONE - not good
bugs with texting and message+ - seem like the phone freezes when texting - can't finish typing - message+ crashes - this is major pain
Lots of apps crashing randomly - not sure why
I really want to make this phone work but the WIPING of the DEVICE twice for me means full day of lost productivity for my traveling job. I can't be rebuilding my phone every few weeks. Is this acceptable for Samsung's flagship phone? I am open and patient to technology and not biased one way or the other (I do miss some features on my Windows Phone).
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just send in for a repair and you will be good to go

i suggest you are trolling
you are talking about S7e right ?!

Sounds like a very defected device.
Your really the first i heard tht has had these problems.
My fingerprint works great.
This is problem the only phone i have had tht doesnt turn on in my pocket.
Also dont know why your phone i wiping itself.
Never had that happen with any phone.
There is an option for wiping the phone if the lock screen password is wrong 5 times in a roll.
I onlynuse the default messging app but never had a problem with slow typing.
16gb for language is very off.
The whole system setup is only around 9gb.
So if you think andriod is crap then move on.
If you wanna try ios then do so.
But i can say that it sounds like your phone is broken

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i suggest you are trolling
you are talking about S7e right ?!
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Man, people get so sensitive about their platforms. Yes, I am talking about the new Samsung S7 Edge on Verizon yes. How am I trolling exactly? These are honest problems I am having - is it not possible to have problems with a new device? I guess folks figure if I point out problems than I am trolling. Not sure how I have to prove this are legit.
On a positive note, I think I did find some root causes on my own recently like the 'Auto-factory reset' setting which is why my device is wiping itself however I can't disable it on Verizon for some reason.
Not sure about the other problems - running out of space, etc. so I am welcome to feedback.

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Man, people get so sensitive about their platforms. Yes, I am talking about the new Samsung S7 Edge on Verizon yes. How am I trolling exactly? These are honest problems I am having - is it not possible to have problems with a new device? I guess folks figure if I point out problems than I am trolling. Not sure how I have to prove this are legit.
On a positive note, I think I did find some root causes on my own recently like the 'Auto-factory reset' setting which is why my device is wiping itself however I can't disable it on Verizon for some reason.
Not sure about the other problems - running out of space, etc. so I am welcome to feedback.
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the numbers of problems u mentioned never faced alltogether in a single android phone for years.. not to mention the that the S7e is one the greatest phones i ever had except for rebooting which was fixed with software update.
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reset your phone , and keep up with us step by step
finger print scanner use different angles for ur finger and keep the home button clean.
u can use 2 fingerprints options for a single finger

markS7 said:
Man, people get so sensitive about their platforms. Yes, I am talking about the new Samsung S7 Edge on Verizon yes. How am I trolling exactly? These are honest problems I am having - is it not possible to have problems with a new device? I guess folks figure if I point out problems than I am trolling. Not sure how I have to prove this are legit.
On a positive note, I think I did find some root causes on my own recently like the 'Auto-factory reset' setting which is why my device is wiping itself however I can't disable it on Verizon for some reason.
Not sure about the other problems - running out of space, etc. so I am welcome to feedback.
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I would be tempted to say this is a combination of OS confusion and faulty unit. Some of what you say has been experienced by others in the S7 Edge forums and some of what you said sounds a little like "it didn't do this on my Windows device". I'm not bashing you at all, I'm just saying that it may be something you come to understand with time.
I remember moving from Apple to Android many years back (I moved to the first original Galaxy S device). I felt like I'd made the biggest mistake of my life! I just didn't "get" it. Things that where simple on the iPhone suddenly had 2 or 3 different ways to complete the task on Android.
I would suggest firstly discussing the issues with Samsung or your provider and see if they are actual issues, or user confusion, then once confirmed, I guess you have a decision... stick with it and see how deep the rabbit hole goes, or return the device and decide Android isn't for you.

ashouhdy said:
the numbers of problems u mentioned never faced alltogether in a single android phone for years.. not to mention the that the S7e is one the greatest phones i ever had except for rebooting which was fixed with software update.
Answers:
reset your phone , and keep up with us step by step
finger print scanner use different angles for ur finger and keep the home button clean.
u can use 2 fingerprints options for a single finger
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okay thanks for the fingerprint tips Ashoudy. I think I will send it back to Samsung and hopefully they send me a new device. Don't get me wrong - I really like the S7 and think it is well ahead of iPhone innovation wise. I got it pre-launch so maybe I just got a bad early device.
Some of these problems may not be hw related in my opinion: Factory resets, storage space problem but hopefully a newer device will fix these.

LOL at people in here saying "well mine's working fine", alright, and your point is what exactly?
It's pretty obvious that OP here has a lemon, and it should be returned. This isn't anything new though, and every manufacturer on the planet will have some of these in circulation for the first month or two. That's the price we pay for being early adopters. If you don't want to get a device with any surprises next time, I recommend you to wait for like 3 months before buying a device. Apple also had some issues with the iPhone 6 and 6S, like expected. Same with Sony, LG, HTC and Samsung. It's always a pain in the butt when it happens to you, but it's pretty much a gamble when you get a brand new device this early.
I have personally zero issues with my gold Edge (built on March 15), so this just shows how bad it can get for unlucky people like OP.