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I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
1st question, do you truly close your programs? Or do they boil and grow in the background? This is likely to be the number cause of your problems.
Also, try using the phone without Sense and see if it gets better for you. Either stick to Titanium or SPB Mobile Shell. I personally use Mobile Shell since I had the phone (played with Sense for 10 minutes and found it impractical for daily use).
Not a single hiccup AT ALL. So.....good luck to you in your decision, but just try my suggestions first.
gilla409 said:
I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
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gilla409 said:
I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
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I hate reading messages like this.
When I first got my HD2 I was very happy with it. I kept it stock for a few weeks, even though I knew that the crashes could be fixed with a change in ROMs.
I don't know why HTC, T-Mobile and Microsoft would release something that clearly has not been field tested in "normal" conditions the way Apple does (see Gizmodo for details on real-world testing of Apple products prior to release).
The good news is that I am now running a great ROM that hasn't crashed on me in over 2 weeks. Not a single crash. I've never had a phone this stable! (See my sig for links)
The bad news is that I had to install a third-party ROM in order to have a useable phone. $500 is a lot of money and it's ridiculous that we have to turn to these boards to get our babies working correctly.
This is the way I feel:
If you want a phone that works 100% the way you want it out of the box, return your HD2 and keep shopping. The phone is waaay too expensive to keep just because it's the latest thing.
If you want an awesome phone that works the way you want it to and don't mind risking your warranty, I'd suggest flashing HSPL and testing some ROMs out. There are some great ROMs here that are so much faster, cleaner, better-looking and more stable than anything you will find on the shelves at T-Mobile. Just remember to tip your chef if you find a ROM that works perfectly on your rig
Thanks for the suggestions!
I actually do make sure to close all my apps when I'm done with them (even keep Task Manager on the first page.) Even with nothing besides Activesync open, I commonly get an error from Opera that "a critical component is missing."
Another bug that really pisses me off, is that when I'm browsing Opera in landscape mode and lock the screen, the lockscreen appears in landscape, and I cannot open it.
I'm mostly disappointed with the fact that this device has some of the most advanced hardware available, and yet it still lags out of the box. Watching videos of the MyTouch Slide running Expresso, I noticed that it is very fast and responsive, despite having much less horsepower under the hood. I really don't want to be forced to disable all of the eye candy or void the warranty installing custom ROMs just to get this "superphone" to run smoothly. On top of all that, it's still unclear if any better OS will be available on this device, either from the manufacturer or the devs here.
Why can't T-Mobile just release their upcoming "Project Emerald" already?
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Thanks for the suggestions!
I actually do make sure to close all my apps when I'm done with them (even keep Task Manager on the first page.) Even with nothing besides Activesync open, I commonly get an error from Opera that "a critical component is missing."
Another bug that really pisses me off, is that when I'm browsing Opera in landscape mode and lock the screen, the lockscreen appears in landscape, and I cannot open it.
I'm mostly disappointed with the fact that this device has some of the most advanced hardware available, and yet it still lags out of the box. Watching videos of the MyTouch Slide running Expresso, I noticed that it is very fast and responsive, despite having much less horsepower under the hood. I really don't want to be forced to disable all of the eye candy or void the warranty installing custom ROMs just to get this "superphone" to run smoothly. On top of all that, it's still unclear if any better OS will be available on this device, either from the manufacturer or the devs here.
Why can't T-Mobile just release their upcoming "Project Emerald" already?
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Have you upgraded to opera 10 yet? because I don't get any problems with it. I don't care for the pinch and zoom feature, so that was not a problem for me to upgrade to it. Also the UI is better looking to me and feels more like a desktop.
try opera mini 5. much faster than opera 10 or even opera 9 that comes preinstalled with the phone.
on top of that, why downgrade to the slide? have you tried flashing a custom rom to the hd2?
i know the slide may seem more responsive but please don't judge it by watching 5 minute video. i bet that phone would experience some kind of lag after a week of use. Espresso Sense UI on that slide also hogs a bunch of memory as our own Sense UI for the HD2.
But if you're still thinking of ditching the HD2 for another T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd get the Nexus one instead. It has the same snapdragon processor not to mention it does not have SENSE to slow it down at all. Completely stock android OS.
I really don't understand this "buggyness" that people have with WM6.5 I dont have any issues with WM6.5 the only issues i notice is the HTC sense messaging lag, and the lag that the HTC Peep app creates every time it updates. I had to turn off auto updating on HTC Peep cause that got so annoying.
Some 3rd party apps are particularly bad, I think the worst i have loaded right now is the Win Mobile Foursquare app from Touchality, bloated buggy POS but its the only option on WinMO at the moment
Basically all the issues with WinMo are 3rd party programs which are likely going to cause trouble on any platform, except for the one that doesn't allow real multitasking.
1. all devices come with bugs and problems
2. all snapdragon drains your battery like crazy same with the Evo.What do you expect from a 4.3 inch screen
3. In my case their times an app its the reason for my phone crashing example motweets it slow the crap out of my hd2 it took 10 minutes to remove. putting flash on opera also a few time it crash my browser.
4. for most issues theirs solutions. my advice its to call t-mobile and tell them your phone its crashing alot and tell them you want a replacement and see if that works out for you. if it doesnt sell it if your unhappy.
Thanks again for all the replies, I definitely appreciate the input. It's nice that people are actually discussing the issues instead of simply bashing one phone and praising another.
I installed Opera 10 immediately after getting my HD2, which is the version that keeps crashing/freezing my device. I will try installing Opera Mini 5 and see how that fares, fingers crossed!
I'm also going to flash a custom ROM to my device, and see if that makes things run smoother. Right now I'm thinking the LIA ROM, I just hope it performs as good as it looks.
The reason I'm kinda pressed to make a decision, is because I'm still within my buyer's remorse period, and can return my HD2 if I'm unhappy with it. The next best thing would be the MyTouch Slide, or the Nexus 1 (which is quite a bit more expensive, and I would have to wait for it to ship.) This really doesn't leave me with much in the way of options, at least for now, which is making this decision much harder. If I do end up returning my HD2, I might just use my old RAZR for a bit, and check out "Project Emerald" in the near future. I'm really hoping more info on this gets leaked before my BR period is up.
I felt the same as you after a week or two into it. Crashes, freezes, hiccups, etc...
After installing the latest T-MO ROM Update, along with a few tweaks like Dutty's Task mgr and Cookie's Home Tab editor, CleanRam, too. No lockups for over a week.
I was super close to selling this and getting an N1. But now it's smoothing out for me.
Joe
I just got the phone today and have already had a few issues. I know part of it is just do to the fact that I'm not used to it. I hope I can work out some of these bugs. I agree that we shouldn't have to go through these lengths just to get a phone that "just works", but after all the research I did it seems like in the end it will be worth it to have a phone that doesn't have the limits that certain other phones do. I will however be playing with a mytouch slide demo unit when I can just to see how it goes. Initial reviews seem surprisingly good.
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But if you're still thinking of ditching the HD2 for another T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd get the Nexus one instead. It has the same snapdragon processor not to mention it does not have SENSE to slow it down at all. Completely stock android OS.
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I agree, try the nexus 1 out!! I am half tempted to get it myself!!
I took the plunge and did it. I kept having issues with the HD2's sound switching to the earpiece (including when the phone rings, playing transformers, etc.). Because it was brand new, I took it back to get it exchanged. They said they didn't have any more and I'd have to wait for a replacement, so I said **** it and got the mytouch slide. I'm liking it a lot so far. It's very snappy, zippy, cool UI, good keyboard. I think I'll be happy with my choice. Good luck whatever you decide to do!
My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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I cannot recall whether or not FlyX includes the build.prop modifications or not, if not you would definitely want to make those. Other than that the only other thing I would recommend is giving MinFreeManager a shot, it changes the "low memory" requirements for the built in memory manager (task manager) of android. If configured properly it can really make a difference in both battery life and performance (not speed, but responsiveness). It does not do it for you, it lets you set the fields, so learn how to do it first, it varies depending on your use of your phone, I don't run any facebook or other streaming applications so my settings are 6,8,16,60,60,150 but this could vary greatly, and may adversely affect others, so read up on the app in the market.
Again that app will improve responsiveness, in that it will give you less delay when swyping the screen in the UI and such, in that your phone does not have to kill a task to free up memory to complete the next task, it will not improve benchmarks, at the same time, poor memory management will give you poor performance in real world use but may not affect your benchmarks, another reason that benchmarks are poor ways of measuring performance.
Outside of that, what it really comes down to is our Android systems need hardware acceleration... Google really needs to get of there... well... you know... and get with the game here, based off the recent discussion and their advisement to manufacturers to hold of the release of tablets until the next android release, I am hoping they are currently implementing it, but without GPU hardware acceleration in the UI and web browser, we will constantly have the appearance of choppiness and the illusion of poor performance even on our overqualified phones... it is one area where I am sad to say the iPhone has us beat... very sad to say... as a matter of fact, I just washed my mouth out with a bit of soap...
EDIT: a good example of how well that application worked for me over actual "tasks killers" on the market such as task killer and such... before having this app installed and configured, a quick investigation of "settings, applications, running services" and viewing the available memory, it would display "Avail:16MB+98MB in ##" after having this app and having it configured it displays "Avail:72MB+116MB in 26" I am assuming my poor UI responsiveness was due to the first of the two numbers...
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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no problem, yeah, the iPhone has had GPU hardware acceleration in the UI since it came out, they structured their OS around it, Google chose otherwise, and I can only hope they regret that decision now... but hopefully they will make amends for that...
just make sure you read the post referenced in the app itself. It is written for the HTC Hero which only has 288MB of Ram as opposed to our 512MB Ram, but it still basically applies.
Keep in mind:
It does not automatically set on reboot until you tell it to, do not tell it to until you are sure the settings you have set do not mess with anything.
You probably will not notice a difference for about an hour... at least that's how long it took for me to truly notice a difference... I'm not really sure why, it apparently took that long for the priorities to take affect, and get the right processes killed, etc., etc. After that, especially later that day I was truly noticing a difference, especially in typing... I have always had a delay when typing on this phone, and that seems to be gone now...
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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Sounds good, your welcome and good luck!
If those settings work out for you without any problems, you'll probably want to up them a bit, it might say aggressive, but they are only so aggressive... If it makes a big difference for you then stick with them, if you still have slow down, and you are running what you described before, you can probably get away running settings similar to what I posted, just don't have them set on boot just in case, if they don't work out you can always set them lower or back to a preset. It is definitely something you can expiriment with, if worst comes to worst, you can always reboot, but as long as you don't touch the first 4 values, you won't mess anything up, the worst that you will do with the last 2 is temporarly screw up facebook sync. or something similar, and really you can get away with changing the 4th value to, it just has a chance of affecting more things, but I doubt you'll end up affecting anything with values around 50 anyway. Like I said, experimenting never hurts, slow phones do... Just keep an eye on it ;-) good luck again.
To add a little correction.if you are running fly x then you are not running 2.3.15 you are running the earlier related release it Is based on. Even if you did have2.3.15 before installing it fly x over writes the system to the files it uses. All roms do. Do you actually have like 2.3.9 I think
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It does say 2.3.9. I inquired about this before because I used teamblackhat to get .15 and the system never seemed to change to .15 every time I tried to download it... I guess that's why, because of flyx...
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After reading Captian Taco's post I was eager to try it out, and its actually making a big difference =D thanks!
Yes it is... its been running much smoother and more responsive all day. Thanks again captaintaco... (boy thats kinda funny to type...)
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Hey don't thank me, thank the creator of MFM, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first to discover the power of Androids integrated minimum memory management, if not the first. Just glad to share my discovery of his discovery haha. But yea, to be honest I don't even use a custom Rom anymore, it runs so quick just having that (thought it works even better in conjunction with your standard simplistic task killer such as "advanced task killer" just to kill apps in the foreground after you are done with them, since many apps don't include a way of closing themselves out...
I still try the custom Roms out and play around with them for the hell of it, but as for right now, I rely heavily on corporate integration, and most of the good blurless Roms remove features required for true and proper corporate sync, such as calender sync and the like... and I just don't like touchdown pro... So this helps me out greatly... remove some bloat, throw launcher pro on there, and get this fix fired up, phone runs like a dream... now if only they could get exchange active sync running like it was on Sense... best implementation I have seen of Exchange active sync so far... I do miss that...
Well after all the advice I ended up installing the zapx rom last night. Wow! It is sooo fast... everything just responds and reacts so much faster than before. I suggest installing zapx to anyone. Best rom so far I think...
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Hello!
I bought my tablet, a TF101 16GB wifi, a year ago, when it just came out.
I also bought a dock since my desire was to use it for work. I take notes, use internet with a wifi mini router for mail, and other office uses. I quite never use it for gaming, only some browsing at home when I do not want to switch on my mac.
I had stock kernel (before ICS), rooted stock kernel, ICS (rooted and not rooted) and now I am trying Jelly bean (not official).
I also tried different cooked roms.
During this year, I often had a lot of problems (kind of problem depends on rom installed):
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
and I always had to do a factory reset (firmware reinstall in a lot of cases) and trying to recover my backups made with different tools.
In this way I can confirm that I never have been able to use it at work because of its weakness.
Now, I cannot understand if it is an Android O.S. problem, a specific problem of MY TF101, a problem of ASUS tablets or what.
Previously I had an IPAD (first model) and I never had such problems (but I cannot do so much with it)...
What have I to do?
Sell it and buy another one?
Sell it and leave tablets world?
Sell it and buy another brand of tablets?
Warranty is expired....
Thank you for your considerations....
Chris
PS sorry for my english....
Hi,
I had similar issues. I've read somewhere that this is caused mainly by two things. NVIDIA drivers and slow flash memory of the tf101 (slownes of the tf101). So, if you get a good price I would consider selling it. The NVIDIA driver problem is causing the reboots because the CPU can't be brought back from sleep or something like that. A workaround is to use this app:
(Wake Lock - PowerManager in google play)
and set it to the first option, PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK. This drains a bit the battery, however I've got rid of the most reboots. Give a try.
jokob
My opinion would be that its an issue of ASUS firmware. Most (would say all but i dont use encryption) if not all of your problems would be solved by custom firmware.
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chrispazz said:
Hello!
I bought my tablet, a TF101 16GB wifi, a year ago, when it just came out.
I also bought a dock since my desire was to use it for work. I take notes, use internet with a wifi mini router for mail, and other office uses. I quite never use it for gaming, only some browsing at home when I do not want to switch on my mac.
I had stock kernel (before ICS), rooted stock kernel, ICS (rooted and not rooted) and now I am trying Jelly bean (not official).
I also tried different cooked roms.
During this year, I often had a lot of problems (kind of problem depends on rom installed):
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
and I always had to do a factory reset (firmware reinstall in a lot of cases) and trying to recover my backups made with different tools.
In this way I can confirm that I never have been able to use it at work because of its weakness.
Now, I cannot understand if it is an Android O.S. problem, a specific problem of MY TF101, a problem of ASUS tablets or what.
Previously I had an IPAD (first model) and I never had such problems (but I cannot do so much with it)...
What have I to do?
Sell it and buy another one?
Sell it and leave tablets world?
Sell it and buy another brand of tablets?
Warranty is expired....
Thank you for your considerations....
Chris
PS sorry for my english....
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I also have the TF 101 and have experienced many of the same problems, random lockups, FC's, etc. Since this was my first Tablet I attributed this all to the Android system. I had also intended to use this as a note taking tool for work but due to the instability I could not. I recently purchased the TF 700 as a replacement but ran into the same issues I also purchased the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 at the same time and used both Tablets side by side There really is no comparison the note is rock solid and super fast. The note taking functions are incredible.
My only real complaint is how little I've used the dock.. it cost me $150 and I basically use it as a battery or portable charger...
Yeah, I've experienced SOD and RR, but only since I've been using nightlies and non-stable roms. I've been considering changing tablets because my brother wants my tablet, but I think I'd rather buy him a new one because I don't think he can handle the flashing and ****..
For the record, it's been a little more than a year (I bought it around.. end of June, after a ****ty junior year, I decided to reward myself), but I still really like my tablet. Just not the dock.
That's to bad, only issues I experienced were rare lock ups and few random reboots. These were all primarily caused by the first release of ics.
I successfully used this tablet for school and my business. Not to heavy into gaming but did get slightly addicted to shadow gun for a time. My primary use for it lately is media and using QuickBooks mobile for proposals and invoicing while on the road.
I have had 3 tfs for the last year and all have had the same stability, all pre b70. I always flashed roms with nv flash.
I absolutely love this tablet, for the price, it's probably the best tablet around...or was for the last year.
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Hello!
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
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Ok with troubles u got it's usually gone with wrong kernel or older version try update new kernel version.
I using this one nearly a year and I didnt have any trouble about them again. the beginning when I got it I have a lot trouble like you but when I update and try and try I find out those problems about kernel and ROM you using maybe doesnt fit.
Now I using Cyanogen 10 by RaymanXF, very cool now
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I had none of those problems on the latest stock ics i only get these on nightlys?
its funny, that the problems that u guys comment and increasingly Complain upon about RR and Crashes... they happen rarely to me.. its all about the right choice of kernels and roms... Combine and find out which suits u the best !
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its funny, that the problems that u guys comment and increasingly Complain upon about RR and Crashes... they happen rarely to me.. its all about the right choice of kernels and roms... Combine and find out which suits u the best !
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I couldn't agree more... now with JB is running smother than ever and didn't had any reboots, SOD's... nothing :good:
Ive never had any real issue with my TF101. Bought in the month they were released in the UK, got the keyboard through the cheap deal. Stock rom, never rooted and always upgraded OTA without wiping anything.
Mostly used it for reading RSS feeds, emails and a few websites. With the odd simple game, nothing too stressful for it though so I suspect it rarely runs flat out.
I got the keyboard because I thought Id use it, But I think I last plugged the tablet into it about three months ago.
Ive probably had 4 OS crashes that Ive noticed and probably about the same random application crashes (mostly browser) The only app that always crashes in Angry Birds space. Every time I play a certain level it crashes part way though so Im stuck on that level.
The only annoying thing I remember is that the wifi doesnt always connect to my Mifi. But it has no trouble with my home access point so I think thats the Mifi rather than the tablet.
I wouldnt say its perfect but its been almost pain free for me.
I recently bought Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and I was surprised how it has none of the issues the Transformer had. Don't get me wrong - the main problem with TF101 is slow NAND (causing lags when saving, updating etc.) and browsing experience. Apart from that it is quite brilliant. You have to remember that its the first generation of Android tablets - it had its problems and Asus is proving to have quite a few problems with quality control (TF201 was the worst example of this) and uses worse components to lower the price. Anyway - Note 10.1 is brilliant because it solved the problems I had - the browsing is very fast (like on my i7 laptop), no lags whatsoever and the stylus makes taking notes and drawing designs for new games much easier (I used to have a bunch of paper sheets all over my desk before with drawings, projects, TODOs and notes - now I use Lecture Notes for that).
I've had a love/hate relationship with my tf101...I love the keyboard...I can't remember the last time I removed it. Nothing beats a physical keyboard for me. The hate part has mostly been the browsers. It boggles the mind that it seems to be impossible to get a browser to just work...to do what a desktop browser can...every time, all the time.
Instead, to get the function of a desktop browser, I have 8 browsers installed. For the most part, my default is Opera...it works on most things and is relatively fast on most pages. Then, without warning, some page functions just won't work. Dialog boxes are a particular source of angst...as are videos.
Dialog boxes are an issue with most android browsers i've used...some work on some pages...some don't work on the same pages. Videos are completely hit and miss on Opera. I found the best, (and by that I mean the most reliable), browser for that has been the stock browser.
....until I stumbled upon a suggestion to try Boat browser. It has so far proven to be the most stable, reliable, consistent android browser and is my new goto browser. It's not perfect but it's as close to a real desktop browser I've found so far.
I know the video problems are with the browsers themselves since netflix runs flawlessly...in fact, almost everything does. I had some issues with occasional random reboots back in the first ics days but haven't been a problem in forever.
The random reboots on angry birds space isn't a real deal breaker...I can't think of any apps I use on a regular basis, (remember when we used to call them programs), that don't' work or fail on a regular basis.
It's the bloody browsers that have been my one consistent, overwhelming, holding myself back from frisbeeing this thing against a wall, frustration.
At some point, I'll try a new mod....it worked a treat keeping my Motorola Milestone alive and useful.
I even accidentally ran over this thing with my car and except for a slight warping of the body, not a thing broke....not even the screen..
I've considered moving on up to the infinity or some other tablet...if samsung makes a keyboard I'll really be tempted, but so far, this puppy has been a real trooper,..one of my least idiotic purchases.
After 8 months of no issues with my TF-101, I had to do a factory reset. My TF became unstable the last couple of weeks. It was constantly locking up. I thought it may be the kernel I was using (with stock .27), but no matter what kernel I flashed, the tablet was locking up every day even without overclocking. My guess it was one of the apps I installed recently. It wasn't too big a deal though. After wiping, I'm back to running guevor's kernel at 1.4GHz with no issues whatsoever.
I've bought my tf101 3 months ago and I'm happy. First month I had some problems related with suddenly app closing but it was solved with latest ics stock update (.27). Gmail was very unstable too but was solved with update as well. Despite of that i was very curious about root capabilities and custom roms. I still have a stable tablet, overclocked at 1.4. I have the keyboard dock too.
Btw hi, this is my first msg after being anonimous for 3 months xD
Maybe these problems you are reporting are related to hardware issues or firmware only present in older tablets?
Does stock updates touch something in the tablet that custom roms can't do?
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I got mine second hand from a friend and ever since I've had it, it has run rock solid! Now that Cyanogen is releasing CM10 nightlies for the device that are only getting better with every release I hope to get plenty more life from it until I absolutely have to replace it!
I am almost sure that I have a NAND hardware problem.
I tried to install UBUNTU. All is ok but if I try to update to 12.04, I always get the same problem while installing.
Problem raise always when a specific amount of free space is used.
I also noticed sometimes (also with Andorid) to have some problems writing files....
How can I diagnose if I have some bad sectors on internal memory?
TY
Dear all,
I am a somewhat half-way happy owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. As an upgrade from the iPhone 4, I was welcomed to an open eco-system where could customize the user interface in a way that suited me perfectly. I love the way that apps integrate into the OS – the gallery and sending images through whatsapp, Line, and other photo editing apps is amazingly great. I currently use the stock JB4.1.1 firmware and I am rooted in order to quarantine bloatware. I use the premium version of Nova launcher. First impressions by this point are very good!
Now to the bad: Whether it is just my experience or not, this phone just doesn’t seem to be able to handle some of the most simple user case scenarios.
Take this example:
I am working, listening to music at the office and doing occasional browsing. But sometimes I need to be on the move to see clients in faraway locations. So I get up off my butt and get to the car, switch on the GPS and blue tooth and set it to my car stereo. By this point, I am trying to input an address while the phone is heating up, lagging like crazy and generally unresponsive. The music is jittering and the phone itself becomes unusable. I then have to restart the phone to return it to a usable state.
This occurs pretty frequently, not just in this user case, but sometimes doing the simplest of tasks: Music>switch to browsing>youtube video>back to browsing>change track>whatsapp>send photo>facebok: *bam phone starts lagging*.
This phone is inconsistent. Sometimes it works smooth as ever. When it does I’m smiling and I’m absolutely delighted. The large screen is so great. But quite frequently the phone is far less reliable than my old iPhone 4. Even that handset could handle GPS, music and browsing just fine. Perhaps it’s the way iOS handles multitasking? I am relatively tech savy and am aware of iOS multitasking not being “true multitasking” but in honestly, it just works. Particularly with the Tomtom app.
I am not here to bash the Samsung GS3, I’m just here to share my user experience with the hope that someone here can provide some advice on how to better optimize the system. I’ve spent many days and nights trying to love this thing: constantly making efforts to optimize this phone. It’s a process I much enjoy and I sincerely love the customizability, flexibility of the OS. In truth, if it worked as well as it does when it does work, it is far superior to iOS. But the fact that the experience frequent lags and has reliability issues, I honestly am starting to feel the itch to sacrifice that extra power for that reliability I had become used to in iOS. Yes it’s less powerful, yes apps don’t integrate well into the OS, but hey – it works all the time. All the time I’ve spent wasting trying to optimize the phone (as fun as it can be), is starting to fade in its appeal when I actually want to use this thing.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to how best to optimize this system? I’ve rooted this thing and have quarantined all the bloatware. I’ve yet to try roms. I’m waiting for my mini-sd card to arrive so I can backup all my stuff there then try “slimbean” and some stripped down versions of jellybean. But is my user case common among other GS3 users using stock roms? Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is there something I can do to enhance my experience?
Cheers and thanks in advance for your kind input!
Hujbalo said:
Dear all,
I am a somewhat half-way happy owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. As an upgrade from the iPhone 4, I was welcomed to an open eco-system where could customize the user interface in a way that suited me perfectly. I love the way that apps integrate into the OS – the gallery and sending images through whatsapp, Line, and other photo editing apps is amazingly great. I currently use the stock JB4.1.1 firmware and I am rooted in order to quarantine bloatware. I use the premium version of Nova launcher. First impressions by this point are very good!
Now to the bad: Whether it is just my experience or not, this phone just doesn’t seem to be able to handle some of the most simple user case scenarios.
Take this example:
I am working, listening to music at the office and doing occasional browsing. But sometimes I need to be on the move to see clients in faraway locations. So I get up off my butt and get to the car, switch on the GPS and blue tooth and set it to my car stereo. By this point, I am trying to input an address while the phone is heating up, lagging like crazy and generally unresponsive. The music is jittering and the phone itself becomes unusable. I then have to restart the phone to return it to a usable state.
This occurs pretty frequently, not just in this user case, but sometimes doing the simplest of tasks: Music>switch to browsing>youtube video>back to browsing>change track>whatsapp>send photo>facebok: *bam phone starts lagging*.
This phone is inconsistent. Sometimes it works smooth as ever. When it does I’m smiling and I’m absolutely delighted. The large screen is so great. But quite frequently the phone is far less reliable than my old iPhone 4. Even that handset could handle GPS, music and browsing just fine. Perhaps it’s the way iOS handles multitasking? I am relatively tech savy and am aware of iOS multitasking not being “true multitasking” but in honestly, it just works. Particularly with the Tomtom app.
I am not here to bash the Samsung GS3, I’m just here to share my user experience with the hope that someone here can provide some advice on how to better optimize the system. I’ve spent many days and nights trying to love this thing: constantly making efforts to optimize this phone. It’s a process I much enjoy and I sincerely love the customizability, flexibility of the OS. In truth, if it worked as well as it does when it does work, it is far superior to iOS. But the fact that the experience frequent lags and has reliability issues, I honestly am starting to feel the itch to sacrifice that extra power for that reliability I had become used to in iOS. Yes it’s less powerful, yes apps don’t integrate well into the OS, but hey – it works all the time. All the time I’ve spent wasting trying to optimize the phone (as fun as it can be), is starting to fade in its appeal when I actually want to use this thing.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to how best to optimize this system? I’ve rooted this thing and have quarantined all the bloatware. I’ve yet to try roms. I’m waiting for my mini-sd card to arrive so I can backup all my stuff there then try “slimbean” and some stripped down versions of jellybean. But is my user case common among other GS3 users using stock roms? Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is there something I can do to enhance my experience?
Cheers and thanks in advance for your kind input!
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worst comess to worst wipe all data reformat phone mate, and if you wanna flash custom rom, try something easy like checkrom mate
Hi. Very interesting post.all though I've never really tried all the multi tasking stuff u do I could see how it could be frustrating. I too jumped ship from iPhone to gs3 a few months ago and I will never go back too Apple's controlled I junk .I find my gs3 to be the best..Sounds like you need to root since I'm rooted and on aokp ROM. The possibilities are endless with root .I have my phone dialed in too preform flawlessly and find no lag at all .I have had 10 to fifteen thing open and exsperiance no lag.well good luck with this issue..
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Hujbalo said:
Dear all,
I am a somewhat half-way happy owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. As an upgrade from the iPhone 4, I was welcomed to an open eco-system where could customize the user interface in a way that suited me perfectly. I love the way that apps integrate into the OS – the gallery and sending images through whatsapp, Line, and other photo editing apps is amazingly great. I currently use the stock JB4.1.1 firmware and I am rooted in order to quarantine bloatware. I use the premium version of Nova launcher. First impressions by this point are very good!
Now to the bad: Whether it is just my experience or not, this phone just doesn’t seem to be able to handle some of the most simple user case scenarios.
Take this example:
I am working, listening to music at the office and doing occasional browsing. But sometimes I need to be on the move to see clients in faraway locations. So I get up off my butt and get to the car, switch on the GPS and blue tooth and set it to my car stereo. By this point, I am trying to input an address while the phone is heating up, lagging like crazy and generally unresponsive. The music is jittering and the phone itself becomes unusable. I then have to restart the phone to return it to a usable state.
This occurs pretty frequently, not just in this user case, but sometimes doing the simplest of tasks: Music>switch to browsing>youtube video>back to browsing>change track>whatsapp>send photo>facebok: *bam phone starts lagging*.
This phone is inconsistent. Sometimes it works smooth as ever. When it does I’m smiling and I’m absolutely delighted. The large screen is so great. But quite frequently the phone is far less reliable than my old iPhone 4. Even that handset could handle GPS, music and browsing just fine. Perhaps it’s the way iOS handles multitasking? I am relatively tech savy and am aware of iOS multitasking not being “true multitasking” but in honestly, it just works. Particularly with the Tomtom app.
I am not here to bash the Samsung GS3, I’m just here to share my user experience with the hope that someone here can provide some advice on how to better optimize the system. I’ve spent many days and nights trying to love this thing: constantly making efforts to optimize this phone. It’s a process I much enjoy and I sincerely love the customizability, flexibility of the OS. In truth, if it worked as well as it does when it does work, it is far superior to iOS. But the fact that the experience frequent lags and has reliability issues, I honestly am starting to feel the itch to sacrifice that extra power for that reliability I had become used to in iOS. Yes it’s less powerful, yes apps don’t integrate well into the OS, but hey – it works all the time. All the time I’ve spent wasting trying to optimize the phone (as fun as it can be), is starting to fade in its appeal when I actually want to use this thing.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to how best to optimize this system? I’ve rooted this thing and have quarantined all the bloatware. I’ve yet to try roms. I’m waiting for my mini-sd card to arrive so I can backup all my stuff there then try “slimbean” and some stripped down versions of jellybean. But is my user case common among other GS3 users using stock roms? Is there something wrong with my phone? Or is there something I can do to enhance my experience?
Cheers and thanks in advance for your kind input!
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Remove icon labels from the homescreen using nova launcher and it reduces lag, have no idea what that means as I don't use nova launcher and don't have any lagg with touchwiz.
I found this answer using a simple search on google
Edit: Try apex or prime launcher (found that out too)
SGSIII is known to have problems with multitasking. Try using the mod below if you want to keep using stock based ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081&highlight=multitasking
The GS3 does indeed have multitasking issues. And it does bother me, hence why I'm buying the nexus 4.
I mean, really? 1GB of ram on a top notch device from Samsung?
But then again, my GS2 didn't have multitasking issus like S3, even though it only had 768mb of ram.
If you want to customize your device further, there is an sweet app called Gemini, where you can choose which app to startup and when it should autostart.
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Sorry. Wrong Sgs3
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Is software issues.
Backup and flash latest firmware.
Make sure you always have more than 2gb free in internal memory.
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This post got me interested since it comes from an unbiased user experience. So, here's what i did, i tried your experiences on my S3. I didn't experience any of the lag you are experiencing. I don't use whatsapp so i replaced it with skype and for satnav i tried navigation with google maps for an online test and TMN Drive (free offline maps to my country) which is based on NDrive. I also use exDialer and handcent to replace basic phone functions (calls and sms) but i kept stock browser.
I do notice my phone heating up a bit, nothing too special. This is normal and expected and only happens when i do heavy stuff. satnav = gps with maps streaming from a data connection heats it up a bit. Any game will also do it. Surprisingly, videos won't, and this includes browsing flash stuff.
Mine is an international i9300, running stock ICS, rooted. I'm also using Go launcher, since it's the only launcher yet that solves the constant launcher redrawing issues when multitasking. Although i'm rooted, i didn't make a single effort in debloating anything (it's just samsung stuff, don't have anything carrier related). By the way, Nova was just as bad as stock's touchwiz in that matter. Go is actually better in several other things so i'm not going back.
I've seen plenty of people saying poor stuff about stock's jellybean roms so i'm yet to jump on boat. It's not even available in my area too (not that would prevent anything), but it's working great + poor opinions all around so i'm keeping iCS for the time being.
To be honest, the only time i did have problems that would make me reboot my phone was when i tried a VERY buggy app once (not phone's fault since it even needed root to run) and the first week i had it because i got a faulty unit which got replaced. Ever since, i can't say i feel any of these issues and, like you, i'm a heavy multitasking user with a somewhat customized phone.
Since you're posting this, i believe you're still willing to push an extra effort to make that work so this is what i'd do: i'd try to make it similiar to mine, since mine works: Replace your launcher for Go launcher (it's totally free, no premium paid extra stuff) and even downgrade to ICS. If that doesn't fix it you may have a faulty unit like i had and that could be grounds to having it replaced for a new one.
Good luck with that and please ask me if you want me to run any more tests on mine, i'll gladly test whatever, so you know what results to expect from your phone.
Hey guys! I I am well impressed with the quick feedback I've received here! When I get my microsd card and begin experimenting with different roms, I will update my impressions. If there is no benefit though I will likely feel obliged to sell his thing.
So far I manage to make this thing usable by closing all apps before I open anything heavy handed like gps or a graphics intense game.
Thanks and keep the suggestions coming if you have any ideas. I appreciate it a lot.
Cheers
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kaynpayn said:
This post got me interested since it comes from an unbiased user experience. So, here's what i did, i tried your experiences on my S3. I didn't experience any of the lag you are experiencing. I don't use whatsapp so i replaced it with skype and for satnav i tried navigation with google maps for an online test and TMN Drive (free offline maps to my country) which is based on NDrive. I also use exDialer and handcent to replace basic phone functions (calls and sms) but i kept stock browser.
Mine is an international i9300, running stock ICS, rooted. I'm also using Go launcher, since it's the only launcher yet that solves the constant launcher redrawing issues when multitasking. Although i'm rooted, i didn't make a single effort in debloating anything (it's just samsung stuff, don't have anything carrier related). By the way, Nova was just as bad as stock's touchwiz in that matter. Go is actually better in several other things so i'm not going back.
I've seen plenty of people saying poor stuff about stock's jellybean roms so i'm yet to jump on boat. It's not even available in my area too (not that would prevent anything), but it's working great + poor opinions all around so i'm keeping iCS for the time being.
To be honest, the only time i did have problems that would make me reboot my phone was when i tried a VERY buggy app once (not phone's fault since it even needed root to run) and the first week i had it because i got a faulty unit which got replaced. Ever since, i can't say i feel any of these issues and, like you, i'm a heavy multitasking user with a somewhat customized phone.
Since you're posting this, i believe you're still willing to push an extra effort to make that work so this is what i'd do: i'd try to make it similiar to mine, since mine works: Replace your launcher for Go launcher (it's totally free, no premium paid extra stuff) and even downgrade to ICS. If that doesn't fix it you may have a faulty unit like i had and that could be grounds to having it replaced for a new one.
Good luck with that and please ask me if you want me to run any more tests on mine, i'll gladly test whatever, so you know what results to expect from your phone.
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That was an amazing reply. I'll be back on here frequently and checking, but I will make a longer post again when I re-flash and experiment with other roms. I'll let you know how it goes and it would be great to benchmark against your own experience. But it's interesting you note go-launcher as the way to go. It was something I used almost right out of the box simply because it was so flexible. Looked elegant and had huge customization options. I especially liked its inbuilt search feature in the app drawer. I did read more about it however, and found that folks experienced lag. I too felt this and after researching a bit I replaced it with nova-launcher.Thing immediately "felt" more snappy, albeit my aforementioned issues above. The consensus seems to be that nova-launcher is good, with folks on the play store as well as on these forums vouching for it. It some cases I find nova launcher is the default used in certain popular custom roms. I'll take your advice though and will experiment more when I get my microsd.
My phone is the GS3 international version, quad core with 1gb ram.
The issue I think is the jellybean firmware. When I was on ics I had no issues whatsoever but now on the latest jellybean I get some lag, especially after viewing heavy pages on dolphin browser.
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Hujbalo said:
Hey guys! I I am well impressed with the quick feedback I've received here! When I get my microsd card and begin experimenting with different roms, I will update my impressions. If there is no benefit though I will likely feel obliged to sell his thing.
So far I manage to make this thing usable by closing all apps before I open anything heavy handed like gps or a graphics intense game.
Thanks and keep the suggestions coming if you have any ideas. I appreciate it a lot.
Cheers
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I think the problem with your handset is the Jelly Bean 4.1.1 update. It is well know that JB doesn't have a really good Memory management, hell, the code is all broke at the sources and the phone will work at around 70~75% of its potencial.
I suggest you should try one of the ICS Stock ROMS, remove all the bloatware and then try... I bet you won't regret it.
Why am I saying this? Well, I was having almost the same issues as you in JB, the phone was overheating and lagging even more than my wife's DEFY lol, so i wiped the phone, flashed ICS and now is all good... I can even Play Dead Trigger, listen to music and chat through whatsapp and any of the apps will lag or close like in JB...
You should give it a try to ICS
does your lagging relates to heavy data usage through 3g/wifi?
To my knowledge, I am not downloading a lot of stuff. At least nothing beyond that which is considered normal.
jimbo77 said:
I think the problem with your handset is the Jelly Bean 4.1.1 update. It is well know that JB doesn't have a really good Memory management, hell, the code is all broke at the sources and the phone will work at around 70~75% of its potencial.
I suggest you should try one of the ICS Stock ROMS, remove all the bloatware and then try... I bet you won't regret it.
Why am I saying this? Well, I was having almost the same issues as you in JB, the phone was overheating and lagging even more than my wife's DEFY lol, so i wiped the phone, flashed ICS and now is all good... I can even Play Dead Trigger, listen to music and chat through whatsapp and any of the apps will lag or close like in JB...
You should give it a try to ICS
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That sounds like a very plausible reason! I will try this asap! :good:
i think the touch wiz thingy needs loads of ram which leaves less room for other stuff , CM 10 is a nice rom bit buggy with camera but makes phone really fast and has no lags =]
Hujbalo said:
That was an amazing reply. I'll be back on here frequently and checking, but I will make a longer post again when I re-flash and experiment with other roms. I'll let you know how it goes and it would be great to benchmark against your own experience. But it's interesting you note go-launcher as the way to go. It was something I used almost right out of the box simply because it was so flexible. Looked elegant and had huge customization options. I especially liked its inbuilt search feature in the app drawer. I did read more about it however, and found that folks experienced lag. I too felt this and after researching a bit I replaced it with nova-launcher.Thing immediately "felt" more snappy, albeit my aforementioned issues above. The consensus seems to be that nova-launcher is good, with folks on the play store as well as on these forums vouching for it. It some cases I find nova launcher is the default used in certain popular custom roms. I'll take your advice though and will experiment more when I get my microsd.
My phone is the GS3 international version, quad core with 1gb ram.
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I am pretty sure that your experience is not something I would consider as normal for gs3. I have tried what you had suggested and it seems to work fine. There is no lag and music is playing well. Phone is not overheating.
As I type : I have navigation activated, XDA app, Chrome Browser, Music playing in the back ground.
My set up is Rooted Stock DLJ4 JB ROM with FULL bloat ware activated and apex launcher.
Here are my suggestions.
1) Try chrome or Non stock browser.
2) Check your set up and Micro SD card, format of needed particularly if the music is stored on the card
3) Try a basic DLJ4 stock ROM or if you want only a rooted one there is one available which is only rooted stock ROM. In my view this talk about de-bloating is over rated and stock ROM works just as well.
4) Please do format your phone and start fresh and also format your SD card or consider changing it.
As for going back to iOS, do feel free to do so, but I bet that you will be back to using the Android in a couple of weeks
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I have been using cm10 with no real problems quite a while. NFC has been back and forth, other than that I'd recommend it over any other roms
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Hehe, I really don't want to go back to iOS. If I can get this to work as you guys have made it out to work, then this thing turds all over iOS for breakfast. But as I said, if these reliability issues persist - it's not a good look for android whether the experience is unique me or not.
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
The stock rom eats 8G of the internal storage.
It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
Too much bloatware. A whole microsoft suite (among other things) that I will never use and cannot uninstall
Touchwiz launcher, its not really great
On the plus side
the finger scanner is good.
The screen is really nice, but I suppose rendering all those pixels is whats causing it to lag like crazy.
Pleased that samsung made a theme chooser. At last we can remove the awful default turquoise colours.
But I immediately know I'm going to have to root and put a custom rom on here to get it working to my satisfaction .... is there any ROM recommendations to remove all lags, stutters and bloatware?
Is it just me? I am surprised I don't see a ton of people complaining about this
Im on xtrestolite deo mod and have no of the problem i had with stock u could always get titanium backup and freeze all that bloat might help. I know that when i ran stock it would often run out of ram. Now i have betwewn 1 and 1.4gb free.
Wait for the Marshmallow update and judge it again then. Samsung redesigned the whole TouchWiz thing launcher, icons, performance everything. From what I read from the beta is really promising and fast.
Never saw any lag, stock or otherwise. I did occasionally have some low ram redraws on stock, but on roms those are long gone. Maybe take a look in your application manager at what's running and see if there's any unnecessary junk running that's eating your ram. Did it start or persist from any old software, or show up from new software ie updates?
benjmiester said:
Never saw any lag, stock or otherwise. I did occasionally have some low ram redraws on stock, but on roms those are long gone. Maybe take a look in your application manager at what's running and see if there's any unnecessary junk running that's eating your ram. Did it start or persist from any old software, or show up from new software ie updates?
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Me too, no lag at all, with stock BUT... if you run MM BETA and then go back to 5.1.1 you will see a very "slow device"
This phone does lag like hell, I had one about 7 months a go and that wasn't too bad.
Picked one up last week and the difference is shocking now, have tried different launchers and no difference.
Makes me laugh how Samsung can't seem to make a phone that is smooth. I have even swapped this out for another one.
All this guff about no more lag in the press conference.
Never had any issues even before I rooted and put a stock modified rom, only thing I would have liked better is battery life, but I get a days use out of it atleast
No offense, but anyone saying the S6 doesn't lag or stutter must either not know what we're talking about or have low fps eyes ?. This phone is an absolute lagfest on stock firmware.
Try scrolling in Google+ or even Tapatalk and you'll see dropped frames all over the place.
Just about the only thing that helps is flashing a custom kernel and enabling enforced mode (try Unikernel for size). That makes a world of difference.
yes I have the s6 since 4 months now. before I had a oneplus one. this was fast. but the s6 is very Laggy. however it has the best benchmarks but the Ui it's definitely Laggy on every edge. so I had a lot of other devices before. for me the most qualcom devices are running smoother. but there are some other positive aspects on the s6
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st0kes said:
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
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It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
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Lag?? U sure, mate? I'm using the S6 for more than a few months now and there is no lag in the UI. Maybe some minor frame drops occasionally (I'm sensitive to those , most people don't notice them), but no lag. It's not normal.
Mine is stock with some native apps disabled. Also I jave turned off the smart manager protection. And I can compare it with Nexus 5. I'v had many Android devices and I know what I'm talking about.
st0kes said:
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
The stock rom eats 8G of the internal storage.
It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
Too much bloatware. A whole microsoft suite (among other things) that I will never use and cannot uninstall
Touchwiz launcher, its not really great
On the plus side
the finger scanner is good.
The screen is really nice, but I suppose rendering all those pixels is whats causing it to lag like crazy.
Pleased that samsung made a theme chooser. At last we can remove the awful default turquoise colours.
But I immediately know I'm going to have to root and put a custom rom on here to get it working to my satisfaction .... is there any ROM recommendations to remove all lags, stutters and bloatware?
Is it just me? I am surprised I don't see a ton of people complaining about this
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buy another phone. it's that simple.
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e34v8 said:
Lag?? U sure, mate? I'm using the S6 for more than a few months now and there is no lag in the UI. Maybe some minor frame drops occasionally (I'm sensitive to those , most people don't notice them), but no lag. It's not normal.
Mine is stock with some native apps disabled. Also I jave turned off the smart manager protection. And I can compare it with Nexus 5. I'v had many Android devices and I know what I'm talking about.
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I've also owned countless Android devices (including Nexus). Most recently I came from an OPO and a Z3C before the S6. GUI lag/stutter is a pet peeve of mine with Android, and while the OPO was almost perfect after some optimization and the Z3C turned out OK, the S6 is frankly a joke in comparison. Especially considering its theoretically superior performance.
innit said:
buy another phone. it's that simple.
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Do you always give up so easily?
I think I'll try the Samsung marshmallow firmware, cheers for the tip @Riardon ... if its just the same I'll try some custom roms.
I'm kinda glad others confirm the lag/stuttering and its not just me.
For comparison, the phone I am replacing is a S5 running Exodus rom, there is absolutely zero lag or frames dropped in any scrolling or animations. It really makes the S6 look bad. Not what I expected as the S5 is like 18 months old now.
Here is a quick video I made for the non-believers out there. S6 is on the left. It doesn't matter that the video is not in focus (because of my finger getting in the way), the point I am trying to make is scrolling should be smooth on a new, expensive Android phone, I am astonished at how bad it is on the S6. Other places in the phone are also bad, Chrome is the worst though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKos5oFPyo
Keep in mind, however, if you do root you will most likely trip the knox counter on your device. This could cause some problems with warranty, and you would not be able to use Samsung pay on the device. If these things don't matter to you. Rooting is okay.
st0kes said:
Here is a quick video I made for the non-believers out there. S6 is on the left. It doesn't matter that the video is not in focus (because of my finger getting in the way), the point I am trying to make is scrolling should be smooth on a new, expensive Android phone, I am astonished at how bad it is on the S6. Other places in the phone are also bad, Chrome is the worst though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKos5oFPyo
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Can't access your video for some reason...
M..N said:
Keep in mind, however, if you do root you will most likely trip the knox counter on your device. This could cause some problems with warranty, and you would not be able to use Samsung pay on the device. If these things don't matter to you. Rooting is okay.
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Rooting/flashing ROMs/kernels can be done without tripping knox by using the engineering bootloader. You'll find great tutorials here on xda.
My S6 has never lagged, not even on stock. I found it to be smooth in generally and I am someone who looks at framedrops and any other possible slowdowns.
Also guys don't forget to check your apps. It may sound weird but some well known apps causing some extra lag on top of what TouchWiz has. For example I found out that SwiftKey on my devices creates some extra lag and it's slower than other keyboards. Some apps are just not optimized well and this the reason some guys see worse lags and stutters than others. This one is tricky to determine those apps but you have to experiment. TouchWiz as it is now yes it's laggy but not worse than older TouchWin on S5 for example. Still needs work but Marshmallow is promising. Wait until then guys you may surprised pleasantly. Unfortunately some apps on Android running like sh***t and we blame the phone sometimes. And remember to always keep your phone at minimal. Disable all extra stuff you don't use and use only the apps you actually use often or truly need. This is for all phones not only for this one.
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Can't access your video for some reason...
Rooting/flashing ROMs/kernels can be done without tripping knox by using the engineering bootloader. You'll find great tutorials here on xda.
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If I understand correctly using the engineering bootloader results in the loss of use of the fingerprint scanner.
M..N said:
If I understand correctly using the engineering bootloader results in the loss of use of the fingerprint scanner.
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Correct. So worth it imho though.