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GB Impressions

Ok, aside from the bootloop issue upon install, I have to say so far, not bad. The blur aspect is definitely better, however I dont care for it any more now than I did before. The color scheme is quite visually appealing. Very much like lucid steel theme for fission. I would prefer the scheme from the fission gb theme but this is absolutely an improvement over the stock froyo appearance.
Overall system speed seems to be somewhat improved, and there is a big issue w/ launcher pro which sucks. with launcher pro there is some heavy lag in transitions and the general feel of the phone is kind of clunky and choppy. Without launcherpro, phone tends to run quite smooth. no status bar controls kinda sucks, and the reduced screen density w/o launcher pro is also kind of a downer, but overall im not going to complain. Its definitely progress.
One big downside I noticed after 2 days is battery life is very hit or miss. On fission 2.6.1, i was making it easily 1.5-2 days on a single charge. Yesterday I made it home with 40% left, today I was at 10% when i left work. I can attribute this heavily to Blur, but this is definatley somethign that a new fission or UD build should fix

I have to say that since the devs seemed to have abandoned the Fission project, I haven't looked back since upgrading to GB Blur. it's snappy and attractive and while it still has alot of the blur bloat i hate, root + ti backup makes things a little more manageable.
so far, i've managed to remove teh global unplug, task manager, the blur text messenger, backup asssistant and city id. my battery life is probably slightly better than it was on fission, depending on what i'm doing (games seem to destroy it).
we still have to recognize that this IS a leaked version and there are still some misses with the build. data services randomly failing, inability to make calls/send texts and the weird keyboard backlight issue. other than that, i've been pretty pleased.

I just upgraded yesterday and I am very happy with it
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They are making a fission GB right now.. I'm almost positive that Angdroid was busy with some stuff but now hes back

GSletta said:
They are making a fission GB right now.. I'm almost positive that Angdroid was busy with some stuff but now hes back
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Seems he indicated he was looking at it, but made no promises of an updated ROM on teamdefuse's website, twitter, or this forum...
Did you see something else where he said he was specifically working on GB Fission?

I think GB for the D2 makes some major improvements, but I can't give up liberty for it. Just have to wait and see if Liberty GB comes out.

dudeSDCA said:
Seems he indicated he was looking at it, but made no promises of an updated ROM on teamdefuse's website, twitter, or this forum...
Did you see something else where he said he was specifically working on GB Fission?
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yeah i thought that topic came up when the sdk was made available, but nothing ever really came to light. i feel like after p3droid's recent tweets/posts, etc., the landscape has been drying up.

I got the impression from what p3 said that the devs were under some fire as google seems to be having second thoughts about open source, as well as unpaid tethering raising some eyebrows with teh carriers, which is understandable.
Hopefully once things get ironed out we'll see some ovens refire and some cool stuff gettin rolled out.
I'm still kind of split and definitely agree that gaming on gb is a battery killer in a huge way. Overall battery life is good, however i've had a few days where it just sucked down. Ive been off charge since 6am, 12 hours later with minimal-moderate useage i'm at 70%, however there have been days where I have used the phone way less and been getting charge warnings by 2pm.
Hopefully the official release will solve the rest of these issues.

All I can say is that I hope some custom ROMs are available for Droid 2 Gingerbread soon, because what I have now is buggy to the point of being frustrating. Besides being a memory hog, I sometimes lose my data connection for no apparent reason and my keyboard backlight doesn't always work. Also, even when I do have a data connection, my phone has problems loading web pages much of the time.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention that the screen sometimes randomly shuts off without warning.
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if you have an issue with the screen randomly shutting off try unchecked the in pocket detection setting. I found this was way to sensitive and would consistently shut my screen off in dimly lit areas.

yeah, battery life has become sketchy, like one day i'll make it through the day with 60% left with moderate useage, similar useage next day i'll be charging by noon. USB reboots have reared their ugly head in the last 48 hours to the point where im charging off of the wall outlet and seriously considering sbfing back to fission 2.6.1

To this point I haven't had any major problems whatsoever ...
Only thing is browser sometimes crashes ...batt life is amazing!
9hr shift on work barely drops to 70% with wifi always turned on moderate txt n web
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SIgh WTF getting whitescreen ....cant get back to CWMR, tried every thing....wtf ..... is this bootlooping? NO MATTER WHAT I do can not get back into recovery.
I have a trick to acces any files but most of them seem corrupted? Im only guesing as there is now a "?" by the file icon.
I tried loading bootsrap recovery
phone appeared bricked. rebooted and again cannot get into recovery.
I laready had 2.3 rom ...did I miss something? IM usually pretty good on this stuff. Modded my hd2 and rooted my g2x no issues....what dee hell is dis sheot
(mods move if I am posting in wrong section)
SOB me having bad day...lol...just realised this is the dev thread not general...I suck .....POINTS!!!!!
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AH HA!!!! I was able to get to CWMR by an interesting method! I had previusly DL mini task manager(took it off the market for some reason) and thats THE ONLY ap that was working!
so anyways in the info bar at top it was showing mini task coming up .... Somehow it was acting as a backup! (has any one else experienced this?) so I long tapped on bootstrap rec icon and voila! it asked if I wanted to go into bootstrap and of course I did and .....yes!!! thank you cwm i got to the recovery green screen!!
FIrst I tried Tpro recovery....would not work....tried loading bootstrapzip....nothing...so....I figure since all my shizzle is backed up through my google act I did a factory reset, wipe data, and redid the new GB hack.
VOILA! it loaded ! no bootloop! just had to re-register phone and accounts!
so I leave you with this narcissistic picture of myself....
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Hey everyone,
I've been running GB and ZS for about a week now. The one thing that I noticed was that there isn't anywhere where you can turn off mobile data? Maybe I'm blind, but it's not in wireless and networks? Any ideas? If not, oh well. I still think I found something in GB that's keeping me from going back to 2.2. It's just as stable as 2.2 only faster! Anyways, cheers all!

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Hey everyone,
I've been running GB and ZS for about a week now. The one thing that I noticed was that there isn't anywhere where you can turn off mobile data? Maybe I'm blind, but it's not in wireless and networks? Any ideas? If not, oh well. I still think I found something in GB that's keeping me from going back to 2.2. It's just as stable as 2.2 only faster! Anyways, cheers all!
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It should be under
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-enable data saver mode
That should only downloads over wifi only

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It should be under
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That should only downloads over wifi only
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Of course its there. Lol. Didn't even think of that. A nice thanks coming your way!

[Q] How's the Butter?—Android 4.3 vs 4.2.2

Hey all; I, along with many others, am still waiting on the Android 4.3 OTA update for the Nexus 10. For those that have it, or who have flashed it, I have a few questions that I'm sure we're all curious about.
First off, the butter. Of course, I'm talking smoothness. The Nexus 10 is obviously a powerful device, and it can power this display for sure. However, it does stutter and lag from time to time. The Google+ timeline stutters, scrolling through the comments stutters (only sometimes, strangely), and I see some general scrolling lag at times. The home screen does this too, but rarely. The gesture typing on the keyboard also drops frames at times, especially in some apps (Google Maps is the chief offender). It lags, drops behind, etc. Generally it works well, but as mentioned especially in Google Maps it drops frames and acts slowly. Are scrolling and similar tasks improved with 4.3?
Second, RAM usage. Currently, I'm sitting around ~560MB free After a couple hours of varied usage, as you can see in the screenshot attached. On average, the most I see is 600MB unless it's after a fresh reboot. I am one of the users who experiences the random reboots, also, so this drops eventually until the tablet crashes on me. Has average free RAM increased with the addition of the Surfaceflinger leak fix in the latest update?
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Thirdly, and finally: homescreen redraws. Whenever I press the home button after being in an app for a few minutes, the entire homescreen has to redraw. On a device like this, I expect that this shouldn't happen. It interrupts the experience. I love the Nexus 10, I just want it to be more perfect for me than it currently is!
Thanks for those who read, thanks! I look forward to the conversation.
~Walkop
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I feel like this needs a bump. I'm still quite curious, and this page has a lot of views since I posted it.
Therefore: BUMP!
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CWalkop said:
I feel like this needs a bump. I'm still quite curious, and this page has a lot of views since I posted it.
Therefore: BUMP!
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Well the home screen redraws can easily be fixed by using apex or nova and choosing keep in memory. Also I'm quite happy with 4.3. It was more of a behind the scenes fix up stuff update which is a good thing. It's a lot smoother and the tablet just runs better overall. No major changes besides some small things like camera redesigned and miracast support added, etc.
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To answer your first question, the 4.3 rom is undoubtedly smoother than 4.2.2 was. In fact, 4.3 stock is smoother than 4.2.2 was with the tablet overclocked to 2.1ghz/720Mhz. Chrome is much more usable, and animations almost never stutter. I don't recall ever seeing the Maps app slow down either. I haven't really tried the play store or G+ apps too much, I'll give them a go tonight and let you know.
The homescreen redraws are still there. I haven't tried the fix suggested by abdel12345 as it doesn't really bother me much.
Free ram usually hovers somewhere between 200 and 400MB, but this is fine. It amazes me that despite so many explanations, people still don't understand how caching works in Linux!

stiggy2012 said:
To answer your first question, the 4.3 rom is undoubtedly smoother than 4.2.2 was. In fact, 4.3 stock is smoother than 4.2.2 was with the tablet overclocked to 2.1ghz/720Mhz. Chrome is much more usable, and animations almost never stutter. I don't recall ever seeing the Maps app slow down either. I haven't really tried the play store or G+ apps too much, I'll give them a go tonight and let you know.
The homescreen redraws are still there. I haven't tried the fix suggested by abdel12345 as it doesn't really bother me much.
Free ram usually hovers somewhere between 200 and 400MB, but this is fine. It amazes me that despite so many explanations, people still don't understand how caching works in Linux!
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In fairness, although most modern operating systems now have this behavior (with regards to memory usage), none of them are designed to have a built-in process fail to free it until the system keels over. Personally though, I haven't had any SurfaceFlinger-related issues, so I can't say too much about it.

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In fairness, although most modern operating systems now have this behavior (with regards to memory usage), none of them are designed to have a built-in process fail to free it until the system keels over. Personally though, I haven't had any SurfaceFlinger-related issues, so I can't say too much about it.
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Very true, though older versions of Windows do make me wonder! :laugh:
Point I'm making is that whether there is a memory leak in a process or not you, should not be seeing more than a few hundred MB of "free" ram, unless by free ram you mean free+cached.

stiggy2012 said:
Very true, though older versions of Windows do make me wonder! :laugh:
Point I'm making is that whether there is a memory leak in a process or not you, should not be seeing more than a few hundred MB of "free" ram, unless by free ram you mean free+cached.
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Granted. But considering how much effort people pushed in peddling RAM-freeing solutions, it's not surprising that many people still want "free" RAM (which is ironic, because you're not getting any use out of that RAM you bought by keeping it free...).
Memory management took a huge leap with Windows 7, but much of the underlying improvements actually came from Windows Vista. That operating system is actually a lot better than people give it credit for. More than anything else though, Vista was shot in the foot by OEMs who needed to sell out their inventories of the "budget PCs" that were really in at the time-- machines with yesteryear's specs that could just about run Windows XP nicely, but that were forced to run Vista so as not to appear "dated." You know the end result of that.

Touch responsiveness is better.
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stiggy2012 said:
To answer your first question, the 4.3 rom is undoubtedly smoother than 4.2.2 was. In fact, 4.3 stock is smoother than 4.2.2 was with the tablet overclocked to 2.1ghz/720Mhz. Chrome is much more usable, and animations almost never stutter. I don't recall ever seeing the Maps app slow down either. I haven't really tried the play store or G+ apps too much, I'll give them a go tonight and let you know.
The homescreen redraws are still there. I haven't tried the fix suggested by abdel12345 as it doesn't really bother me much.
Free ram usually hovers somewhere between 200 and 400MB, but this is fine. It amazes me that despite so many explanations, people still don't understand how caching works in Linux!
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Thanks for the reply!
Glad to hear browsing and animations are much better. It sounds like a fantastic improvement (being relative, of course- the Nexus 10 is already the smoothest Android 10" tablet experience around). As for redraws - oh well. I may swap to Nova or Apex (I have full editions for both, IIRC). As for RAM, I actually agree with you there. I just didn't expect that they improved caching performance - on 4.2.2, I sometimes end up with 400MB for no reason whatsoever after clearing all recent apps, instead of 600MB-750MB that I get on a fresh boot with a couple recent apps. More used RAM, if there isn't a leak, is a GOOD thing!
Anyway, I'm still waiting on the OTA. A family member's Nexus 10 got it today, so I'm hopeful!
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Touch responsiveness is better.
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Interesting. Hopefully it will pick up those quick bezel-swipes more accurately from now on! Sometimes they don't register for me.
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Memory management took a huge leap with Windows 7, but much of the underlying improvements actually came from Windows Vista. That operating system is actually a lot better than people give it credit for. More than anything else though, Vista was shot in the foot by OEMs who needed to sell out their inventories of the "budget PCs" that were really in at the time-- machines with yesteryear's specs that could just about run Windows XP nicely, but that were forced to run Vista so as not to appear "dated." You know the end result of that.
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Totally agreed. I had an old pre-fab Compaq with Vista before I got the custom build up and running that I use today (SSD+Windows 8 = WIN). It ran Vista - and it worked great for me! UAC was a pain, at times, but I never really noticed it until I saw complaints on forums. Either way, Vista was a relatively solid OS. I never ran into any bugs or issues, and it performed well.
8 is definitely a massive improvement over 7, though. Boot-up times are much faster, interacting with the entire OS is just a much more fluid experience. 8 isn't just about Metro (or whatever they call it now) - it brings a lot of behind-the-scenes improvements.

Not happy
Serious noob here, so, my thoughts:
Was trying to stay stock on the N10, so I upgraded to 4.3 OTA today. The screen times out in ~ 5 seconds now, and the only fix I've found is to factory reset. I called support, and the rep said I need to factory reset (surprise). I've done this twice now, and nothing's changed.
And I can't find a video player that doesn't crash. I used to use Dice, and it won't work. I made the mistake of uninstalling to see if a reinstall would fix, and now Play says it's incompatible and won't install. I tried a couple others, and they crash too.
I wished I didn't upgrade. It's not bricked, but it's not really usable either. I generally used it to take notes at work and play videos at home. I can't really do either at this point.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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...And I can't find a video player that doesn't crash. I used to use Dice, and it won't work. I made the mistake of uninstalling to see if a reinstall would fix, and now Play says it's incompatible and won't install. I tried a couple others, and they crash too...
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Right now (Jul 30th) we are all in a hold pattern waiting for our favorite HW accelerated player to be updated. You are not alone.

thehobster said:
Serious noob here, so, my thoughts:
Was trying to stay stock on the N10, so I upgraded to 4.3 OTA today. The screen times out in ~ 5 seconds now, and the only fix I've found is to factory reset. I called support, and the rep said I need to factory reset (surprise). I've done this twice now, and nothing's changed.
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I did say I was a N00b, right? I discovered the sleep setting which I thought I'd set had no value at all following the factory reset. So maybe the upgrade to 4.3 unset the value or there was really a screen timeout problem. But now that it's set to something the problem is gone. Sheesh I'm an idiot.

thehobster said:
Serious noob here, so, my thoughts:
Was trying to stay stock on the N10, so I upgraded to 4.3 OTA today. The screen times out in ~ 5 seconds now, and the only fix I've found is to factory reset. I called support, and the rep said I need to factory reset (surprise). I've done this twice now, and nothing's changed.
And I can't find a video player that doesn't crash. I used to use Dice, and it won't work. I made the mistake of uninstalling to see if a reinstall would fix, and now Play says it's incompatible and won't install. I tried a couple others, and they crash too.
I wished I didn't upgrade. It's not bricked, but it's not really usable either. I generally used it to take notes at work and play videos at home. I can't really do either at this point.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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For video, try the VLC beta. MX Player doesn't work for me either, after the 4.3 update, but I watched a movie on VLC just fine last night. It will even play codecs that other players like MX Player won't play, like the dts audio codec.

DicePlayer has received two updates yesterday. Now its back in playstore for our n10. So far works fine for me.

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DicePlayer has received two updates yesterday. Now its back in playstore for our n10. So far works fine for me.
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Yep - installed and working fine. Whew.

DicePlayer working excellent!!

Amiga4ever123 said:
DicePlayer working excellent!!
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Mx player updated and seems to be working on 4.3. Someone to confirm this?

Should work fine. It's official info about support android 4.3

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Mx player updated and seems to be working on 4.3. Someone to confirm this?
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Yep. Just watched an video with hw+ decoder for half an hour after receiving the 1.7.16 ARMv7-neon update.

I always used Mxplayer, but I I noticed that diceplayer hiding status bar and bottom navbar. Display is on fullscreen Mxplayer has both black bar Diceplayer win in my eyes

FINALLY!!! Lollipop is here!!!

OTA is out
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This link only takes me to the vzw homepage in spanish...
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rcurtis805 said:
This link only takes me to the vzw homepage in spanish...
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you're not alone.. sigh :/ And I'm really happy we're finally getting it but it's a bit too late for me as I'm moving on to the S6 Edge, hopefully it gets rooted or I'll end up returning it and just going back to a Note developer edition perhaps

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PDF opened fine here. Here's a screenie: http://imgur.com/a/Agzyc
And did we rely just get 4.4 root and lollipop in the same day? Figures. Lol.
Edit: I uploaded them in reverse order.. Sorry guys

Of course this happens as we are about to get root lol. Looks like I might hold off on the update for a couple days.

Seriously as soon as I get hyped about root coming this week (possibly) now I have to decide if I want to wait around to see how long it takes for lolipop to get rooted.

Dennelly said:
Seriously as soon as I get hyped about root coming this week (possibly) now I have to decide if I want to wait around to see how long it takes for lolipop to get rooted.
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If his claims regarding root are accurate, he says it supports lollipop as well. Meaning that this would have to be, essentially, a 0 day exploit or leverage the USB connection dealio that got moto/LG root.

easy decision for me... I'll take root first.

Wonderful. Lollipop and root announced the same day!

Nothing in North Carolina yet.
Still nothing here in North Carolina

ugh...nothing in nj yet but do i update when i can or wait for a custom lollipop rom =/
i really do lead a tough life

Anybody able to confirm if the new Theme Engine for TWiz is included in this like it will be on the S6?
The biggest things that made me return my Note 4 were my inability to handle how ugly I found the notifications and color scheming and the bloat. If we have root (soon it sounds) and theming...I may jump back in.

Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.

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Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.
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I think you will be pleased with lollipop especially when root drops so it can be debloated. I've been running beanstalk based off 5.0.1 on my N4 dev-edition and it's much faster than 4.4.4. ART works great. I know TW is entirely different than CM12 but I'm sure the performance will be similar. As for extra space you are not going to get any extra useable space for file storage from removing system apps. The partition size for system will remain the same no matter how many apps are removed. Your storage space and system space are two different partitions. When 5.0 drops then development can finally pick up and will be a win for everyone.

Misterxtc said:
I think you will be pleased with lollipop especially when root drops so it can be debloated. I've been running beanstalk based off 5.0.1 on my N4 dev-edition and it's much faster than 4.4.4. ART works great. I know TW is entirely different than CM12 but I'm sure the performance will be similar. As for extra space you are not going to get any extra useable space for file storage from removing system apps. The partition size for system will remain the same no matter how many apps are removed. Your storage space and system space are two different partitions. When 5.0 drops then development can finally pick up and will be a win for everyone.
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I have been with Android since the G1 and have modded up until the Note 4. Note 4 works great already, so have no desire to bother modding the Note 4. I used to be compelled to root/mod due to performance issues. I am not at all compelled with the Note 4, since already works great. Will also pass on the update as a result

Rushmore69 said:
Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.
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ART is a runtime, not a file system. yaffs2, vfat, ntfs: these are file systems.
ART replaces the Dalvik VM that the platform runs applications on. Your file system handles reading/writing data to and from storage devices.
That being said, ART is much smoother than Dalvik's JIT compiling, so it's all a matter of preference. If you want a choppy, outdated device with hard drive space, go ahead! I have plenty of cloud storage, so performance is key to me.
Source: I manage around 1,000 VZW Note 3 & 1,800 VZQ Note 4 devices for my company.

hoey2011 said:
ART is a runtime, not a file system. yaffs2, vfat, ntfs: these are file systems.
ART replaces the Dalvik VM that the platform runs applications on. Your file system handles reading/writing data to and from storage devices.
That being said, ART is much smoother than Dalvik's JIT compiling, so it's all a matter of preference. If you want a choppy, outdated device with hard drive space, go ahead! I have plenty of cloud storage, so performance is key to me.
Source: I manage around 1,000 VZW Note 3 & 1,800 VZQ Note 4 devices for my company.
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You're misunderstanding his point. ART uses more storage space because it saves the compiled package from the apk on the NAND, and that is bigger than the apk. I don't know where he got the 3gb figure from, but ART will always take up more space than the same phone/software with DALVIK as the runtime.

Not up for me yet

Rushmore69 said:
Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.
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You're probably missing out on some pretty important security updates too, but whatever floats your boat. This thread is probably not the place for you.

I'm seriously looking foreward to lollipop on my note 4. My note felt much faster than my old nexus 7 2013 tablet, until it got lollipop. ..after it got that, I stared using the tablet more often at home, because it out performed my note 4, which was only a month or so old!
I'm expecting to see the same performance gain on my note 4 once we get lollipop.
I'll root, but only so I can finally install an ad blocker. As far as storage space, I've got a 32gb sd card, and I can always replace that with up to a128gb sd card. I couldn't care much at all about losing a little space in the phone itself, and lollipop with fix the external app sd card access, making the SD card much more functional.

[Discussion] The LG G5 discussion thread

Hello LG G5 users , feel free to talk here about anything related to the LG G5 :good:
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2. This is an LG G5 thread , do not talk about any other LG phone here.
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So what do you think about this LG phone ?

Hi guys , thread opened thanks to @KennyG123 , now that the G5 is out and available for sale feel free to share your experience in this discussion thread.
I will update it later with infos , reviews , battery tests..etc.
Enjoy

This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.

@CorruptProfile Thank you very much sir for this first well detailed feedback.
How about other things like the camera , performance ( if you tried any intensive game ) ? Is it buttery smooth or LG 5.0 UX suffer from lags ?

CorruptProfile said:
This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
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Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)

Killua96 said:
Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Soufiansky said:
It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Nope, there is a third option shown in the UX 5.0 video and confirmed by T-Mobile users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8Zs3Mlbcs
Look at 2:19

I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.

CorruptProfile said:
I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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Thank you again for the feedback , when i come back home i will post the links you send me in pm

Thanks to @CorruptProfile
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.

Soufiansky said:
It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me

Mew351 said:
I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.

Mew351 said:
The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
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Note 5 ? Nexus 6P ? We're going in an off topic here...
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CorruptProfile said:
I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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What about the module thing ? I saw a lot of issues about it these days
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.

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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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No i was talking about the stock battery module , you haven't faced any issue ? Because some people were reporting bad screen colors reproduction next to the module , others said it started taking off....etc.
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Android 7 V.S Android 6 in Real Life

Hi to every lucky body that get android 7 final.i made this topic to share your results in android 7 and compare with yours in android 6..like camera..battery..speed..tanx and hope to be usefull and active topic??????
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Well, it's a tiny bit snappier, and a tiny bit faster overall.
The battery is better; I get 3:45 to 4 hours SOT in auto brightness, full location services with wireless scanning, google now on, google cards on, hot word on from any screen... the full google experience, for short.
It's better than I had with a variety of mods and ROMs on Marshmallow.
I especially enjoy the new notification center. I can read numerous full messages and emails right from the notification slide. Quite awesome.
And I thank the gods of Google for removing the stupid enlarged tiles for Wireless and Bluetooth, the most annoying feature ever.

Battery is not bad for stock but I get the feeling with all mods and tweaks and kernels and such android M was a bit better...
But it would be unfair to compare those two as M has been worked on for a year now... N is fresh out of the box so let's wait and see how much battery can be improved.
Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
Camera... And such... Did not really compare but would expect them to be similar...

Starship706 said:
Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
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I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.

OhioYJ said:
I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.
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No, but you can do that from Data Usage in Settings, in M as well.

I've been using it for 2 days now. The doze feature is way better than that of M. I've noticed certain performance boost in games like asphalt 8 as the game used to lag after thermal throttling was active in M.
The usage is very very smooth, feels very light. I mostly love the quick settings panel as because it looks and is well organised than the previous version. It's just an initial build and its quite stable. I would say I am impressed and good to go with 7.0.
Well this was my perspective.

I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?

eatsleep said:
I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?
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Not entirely sure... NExus 5x has quite some struggle with charging when screen on.
Under M there was almost no charging when screen was on and you did some browsing...
Might be slightly better under N... though I havent tested it long enough to confirm... Charging basically stopped when you used your phone constantly and not just for writing a text under M...

Nope, seems same like before.
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Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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Nightshadow931 said:
Nope, seems same like before.
Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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I tested it while playing a game (8 ball pool, not a resource intensive app) and the percentage went up atleast 2 to 3 % in roughly 5-10 minutes. It seems that it is improved. But we still need someone to look through the kernel's code or run a reliable test!

I have it on my 5x since it dropped was on dp5 before that. Official seems smoother don't really use the 5x since I got the s7.

I'm actually seeing what seems to be worse battery performance. I've eliminated a few apps that were troublesome, but it looks like the battery is draining faster than on "M". I'm hoping that it's simply a problem with the crappy cell signal in my office - my connection bounces between 27 different towers and it's still crappy at best.

Atleast for me, I can confirm that charging while screen on is finally fixed. Hail hydra!

As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.

lightningdude said:
As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.
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Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.

new useful features, more usr friendly interface, for me - good change

enzo_cz said:
Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.
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How did you get Substratum working?

bhs73 said:
How did you get Substratum working?
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Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.

enzo_cz said:
Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.
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Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.

bhs73 said:
Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.
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Important, there are sorta probs about Substratum and Android N, such as make sure you wont apply it to Chrome and Documents for example. You'd get instant force close. And if there's any other app like that, you need to make sure it is off the list to get themed.