Title says it all. My data connection takes aprox. 2 minutes to connect and then it disconnects immediately after being used. When I was using the previous version of TouchIT the data connection would connect and then work all the time (if it was disconnecting in the background then it was connecting quick enough for me to not notice).
Bottom line, I want my quick connecting/always connected data connection.
I have unlimited data so Im not worried about data fees.
How much of an effect would it have on battery life to keep it on all the time?
I have O2 unlimited web bolton on my account but for some reason O2 swapped it back to unlimited text bolton. I mange to change it back to unlimited web bolton.
I observed on my bill that everyday there is usage of around 30 to 50 kb of data on my account.
I have connected my HD with WIFI and Data communication is off. But of some reason, Data communication automatically gets on and hence I think it try to do something and everyday their is data usage.
Can anyone tell me how to stop Data communciation started automatically.
You can turn it off using the advanced configuration tool. Just do a search and download it.
I have advance configuration tool. Can you point me to a particular setting
It should be under Data connections.
Thanks, I found it. It is under Menu --->More Settings ---> Connections
Hi guys,
I've been a HTC and Windows Mobile user a little while now. I previously had a Trinity (HTC 3600) and now I have the Touch HD. It has come to my attention that I really need to figure out what the data terminology really means.
I have noticed that when using my phone, data connections are automatically initiated when I perform/launch specific applications that are obviously using a data connection, such as:
- Google Maps
- Tom Tom Traffic
- Internet (opera/internet explorer)
- Manilla 3D Weather
- Manilla Photo uploading
- etc.
I have found it annoying at times that data connections have started without informing me, and then to make things worse, the connection doesnt cancel at the end of its task, it needs a manual disconnect.
I've gradually gone through the settings of most programs, turning off any form of "automatic update" setting. So im happier knowing that most of the time my phone shouldnt be unexpectidly in the middle of a data connection.
But on occasions I look at my phone, and see that its had a data connection open for over an hour (although my guess is that hardly any data has been transfered on these occasions).
So firstly, could anyone reccomend any programs that can monitor my data connections or usage and even force me to give authorisation whenever a data connection is requested?
Secondly, I find that if I have my wifi connection connected, all apps that try to use a data connection use this to channel their data through, this is perfectly fine and is the behaviour I expect, but when I'm using Windows Messenger on my phone, while on wifi, for some unknown reason, it feels it can establish another data connection (regardless of the wifi being connected and operating) - and that is very annoying.
Most of my concerns stem from the fact that I only have off-peak free data time on the web with my provider (Orange).
Lastly, could someone help explain the differences between:
GPRS
3G
HSDPA
I think GPRS is what sat nav apps use for geographical positioning using satelites, and its free. But im not sure about the others, are there others that I am unaware of too. I think 3G and HSDPA are data connections, but what makes one different from the other, and why is it only sometimes 3G is used, and another time HSDPA is used?
Im in London, UK, and I notice on my phones signal bar, that it can often change to show a "G" or a "H" or a "3G" and there could be others. This is all so confusing, and my main concern is about paying for data connections etc.
Oh... and whats the difference, or whats the point of telling the phone to use "Work" or "The Internet", this also confuses me.
Although this is a bit of a long winded post, I'll appriciate any bits of help and advice given.
Thanks in advanced,
WizzKidd
Ok, i've been doing some reading, and for the sake of those who "search" these forums in the future, this post will at least have an answer (even if im kinda answering it myself).
My understanding is as follows:
The 4 data channels are: GSM / GPRS / 3G / EDGE
In order of their age (oldest to newest)...
GSM: (Global System for Mobile communications)
- The European standard for the majority of handsets.
- Primary usage is voice.
- Tri-band GSM allow Europe to operate these phones and Quad-band GSM allows some Far East to operate.
- Can be used with the GPRS core network for data.
GPRS:
- One of the first widely used data channels
- Can transmit data of up to 60 KBits/sec
- is battery friendly
EDGE: (Exchanged Data rates for GSM Evolution)
- based on GPRS
- Can transmit up to 473.6 KB/its per second
- ideal for heavy webpages, and downloading email attachments etc
3G:
- Originally for video data calls but also efficient for web/email, im and voip
- very popular channel, most UK and some European networks now have 3G networks and with speeds similar to EDGE
- not battery friendly when searching for new 3G connections
HSDPA: (High speed Downlink Packet Access)
- Based on 3G technology
- Supports speeds of up to 7.2 MBits/sec (but in reality you usually get 3Mb/s)
- very good for high bandwidth usage like video streaming
So, what ive gathered from all this is that the phone can switch its data channel depending on how demanding the application is for bandwidth and also what data channels are available in the area.
Please correct me if i am wrong, assumtions and corrections is the best way to learn.
Thanks,
Wizzkidd
PS. I still dont see the point of Windows Mobile asking me if this network is connected to "Work" or "The Internet".
Isn't HSDPA also called 3G+ ?
GPRS
Hai Wizzkidd
What you can do is: put gprs off. Go to settings-> connections-> connections. On the tab tasks you wil see: my isp. Open de link modify and select your isp. Hold it down and remove settings.
You will still be able to make phonecalls and sms. You will have to get your updates etc... through wifi or sync.
me to, Orange/(3G) - are they the same ?????
wizzkidd said:
Hi guys,
I have found it annoying at times that data connections have started without informing me, and then to make things worse, the connection doesnt cancel at the end of its task, it needs a manual disconnect.
I've gradually gone through the settings of most programs, turning off any form of "automatic update" setting. So im happier knowing that most of the time my phone shouldnt be unexpectidly in the middle of a data connection.
But on occasions I look at my phone, and see that its had a data connection open for over an hour (although my guess is that hardly any data has been transfered on these occasions).
So firstly, could anyone reccomend any programs that can monitor my data connections or usage and even force me to give authorisation whenever a data connection is requested?
Secondly, I find that if I have my wifi connection connected, all apps that try to use a data connection use this to channel their data through, this is perfectly fine and is the behaviour I expect, but when I'm using Windows Messenger on my phone, while on wifi, for some unknown reason, it feels it can establish another data connection (regardless of the wifi being connected and operating) - and that is very annoying.
Most of my concerns stem from the fact that I only have off-peak free data time on the web with my provider (Orange).
Lastly, could someone help explain the differences between:
GPRS
3G
HSDPA
I think GPRS is what sat nav apps use for geographical positioning using satelites, and its free. But im not sure about the others, are there others that I am unaware of too. I think 3G and HSDPA are data connections, but what makes one different from the other, and why is it only sometimes 3G is used, and another time HSDPA is used?
Im in London, UK, and I notice on my phones signal bar, that it can often change to show a "G" or a "H" or a "3G" and there could be others. This is all so confusing, and my main concern is about paying for data connections etc.
Oh... and whats the difference, or whats the point of telling the phone to use "Work" or "The Internet", this also confuses me.
Although this is a bit of a long winded post, I'll appriciate any bits of help and advice given.
Thanks in advanced,
WizzKidd
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firstly = http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/ - not TESTED on my ELF { http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318414&page=4 }
secondly = I had to 'make do' with a 'modem', for a bit. A '3' ZTE MF622 USB modem, it uses hdspa/3G. network3's website, classes this modem as a phone/sim - was PAYG, though (mythree. . . . ) - - - - THE HDSPA downloaded, "" faster at times than virgin-cabled Bband did !!! "" - watch [task mgr]->[network]
thirdly = NICE ONE !!! 9.75/10 for the (101/explaination's of the connections) and the check Ur not updating Ur Apps, all/some of the time.
shame the [comm mgr]->[phone]="wake on lan"/(x)
still under usb, i cannot Ms Direct push / Data connect
only LIVE via usb - NO WIFI (connected, but ...)
networks
Hi,
I think your question about preventing automatic connection has been explained.
As for GPRS, 3G and HSDPA,
They are all cellular data connections but will vary in speed and stability.
GPRS and EDGE (can provide what each stand for but i am sure google would do the work for me)
They are the packet data networks when using the 2G networks. GPRS (2.5G f you will) has downlink speeds of around 28kb/s and EDGE (2.75G) 100kb/s.
3G (UMTS) max's out around 384kb/s and officially HSDPA (3.5G) can is commercially available at 7.2mbps. All the speeds above are network dependant as all can be capped.
Most operators are now testing HSDPA and HSUPA (3.75G - same downlink speed as HSDPA but faster uplink, the speed however escapes me ) on speeds greater than 7.2mbps.
You will not be charged differently for each network type and each will come out of a data plan at the same rate.
The 2G networks are more stable but slower and the 3G networks are faster but due to congestion issues the connections have been known to drop as i am sure some other users will agree.
The thing sat nav software uses for positioning is GPS (Global positioning system) and not GPRS (general packet radio service). GPS is a handset feature like wifi or bluetooth and nothing to do with the network.
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Ross
HSDPA
Hey guys, I just wana know if any of you know how to make your phone connect using hsdpa only. Because this is realy fast compared to other connections, and its annoying when the device switches to gprs or some other type of connection which makes the net super slow.
Ok GSM is a wireless technology like CDMA it has very little to do with actual data use.
GPRS(2G), EDGE(2.5G), UMTS(3G), HSDPA (also 3G), HSUPA(3G yet again), HSPA+(3.5G) All of these, are technologies that allow internet connectivity or data transfer, at different speeds. Depending on the tech your service provider uses your speeds will vary, that being said, you, don't pay extra when your connection switches.
GPRS: General Packet Radio Service...
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Hey guys, it seems that you can simply select WCDMA only option in your setting to connect using only HSDPA.
Hi guys,
I recently subscribed to a 12G data plan. In the past, I've used nodata to disable data connection and used wifi when possible. Since I have a data plan, I enabled data connection and now both wifi & 3G/GPRS are activated.
My question is this, does HD when connected to wifi, use it exclusively until the connection is lost and then 3G takes over? And when wifi is re-connected, it automatically uses wifi and not 3G? The reason I am asking is because I see both the 'wifi' and 'h'/'g' status at the same time. And when clicking on it, the data connection shows that it has been in use for hours!
My concern is going over the data limit and battery life.
Thanks so much in advance!
No, it's not designed to establish only one connection at the same time. You can have WiFi and 3G connected at the same time.
thanks vcespon... i wish there is 'smart-connections' program...
Never used wi-fi on a phone before. Once i'm connected to my local wi-fi, is that what the internet goes through and i won't be using my data usage or do i need to do something to make sure it's running through wi-fi and not using my usage?
yup once you are on wifi the data connection logo should disappear and all traffic should be via the wifi connection.
try downloading 3g watchdog from the market to keep track of data usage. its really useful.. for me anyway
cheers