Hi guys,
I recently subscribed to a 12G data plan. In the past, I've used nodata to disable data connection and used wifi when possible. Since I have a data plan, I enabled data connection and now both wifi & 3G/GPRS are activated.
My question is this, does HD when connected to wifi, use it exclusively until the connection is lost and then 3G takes over? And when wifi is re-connected, it automatically uses wifi and not 3G? The reason I am asking is because I see both the 'wifi' and 'h'/'g' status at the same time. And when clicking on it, the data connection shows that it has been in use for hours!
My concern is going over the data limit and battery life.
Thanks so much in advance!
No, it's not designed to establish only one connection at the same time. You can have WiFi and 3G connected at the same time.
thanks vcespon... i wish there is 'smart-connections' program...
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I was on the phone with cingular today because I want to upgrade to the cingular 8125. From everything I have read on these forums and some others, it is possible to use the wifi without using gprs in any way. The lady on the phone told me that even if I am using wifi through a free access point, I will still be charged for data usage, or would need a data plan. One of the key reasons I want this phone is for the wifi (my college campus is entirely wireless).
I just wanted to make sure that I will be able to connect to wifi without any charges or a data plan, just as say a laptop with wifi would be able to do.
Thanks in advance
WiFi has nothing to do with your cellular plan. They are either talking rubbish, or you misunderstood?!
(Take your sim out. You will still be able to use wifi - how are they gonna charge you?)
That is what I thought. She either was confused, or just really wanted to sell me a data plan as well.
Thanks
I do not have GPRS and I do not get charged for data using WiFi. You do need to watch out for auto log on by the phone when you have WiFi off. I would suggest you have cingular block all wireless internet access for your phone. I had them do this for all of the phones on my plan, including my 8125. I told them I had kids and did not want a huge bill. They did it with no problem. I know that this has prevented data charges since all of us have indavertently had our phones look for for the internet when we did not want it to. I use my 8125 via WiFi on vaious networks all the time.
Hope this helps.
David
i hate people who sell cell phones, they lie so much
Thanks for your help guys. I just ordered it from cingular. I can't wait until it comes.
Billabond1 said:
I just wanted to make sure that I will be able to connect to wifi without any charges or a data plan, just as say a laptop with wifi would be able to do.
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Correct, you do not have to have a data plan and you will not be charged for WiFi usage... BUT... you have to be careful as the 8125 will switch to GPRS if it loses the WiFi signal by default. Here's a cab that allows you to turn off all data access of various flavors so you can leave WiFi on, but the others off, then you don't have to worry about it switching on you.
. . . or you can just remove the APN from your connection settings. Without an APN your unit cannot establish PDP on the GPRS network, and hence no connection . . .
Start > Settings > Connections > Connections
Edit your connection
Tap Next to the Access Point Screen.
Remove your APN (and note it for future reference) and replace it with XXX (or whatever).
Tap Next and then Finish.
Repeat for any further connections.
Not a viable solution if you need to use GPRS, but if you are never going to use it then it's not a problem.
To recap:
An incorrect Access Point Name will result in no connection, and hence, no charges.
Thanks again. I talked to my dad today, and it turns out that he has medianet disabled through cingular, so it is all good. But thanks a lot for the help.
hi
How can i monitor how much data i've used (not wifi)
I've got 500mb a month, and while i'm sure i wont use this, i want to keep tabs and reset each month
is this functionality built in?
cheers
m.r.davies said:
hi
How can i monitor how much data i've used (not wifi)
I've got 500mb a month, and while i'm sure i wont use this, i want to keep tabs and reset each month
is this functionality built in?
cheers
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I managed to rack up over £100 of data charges before I realised that my network settings (buried away down start->connections->connections->advanced->select networks .... obviously !) were set to use the cellphone connection by default. It was therefore using HSDPA even when wifi was connected. I proved this by downloading an app called GPRS Traffic Monitor. It's very basic but it monitors your GPRS/HSDPA traffic. I've now switched the default connection to be "My Work Network" instead of "Contract Internet" and traffic monitor now shows no increased data usage while the wifi is connected.
I've also noticed (although not scientifically tested) that if an application gets a connection via HSPDA before the wifi connection is established then it continues to use HSPDA and doesn't switch over.
Maybe everyone else knows all this but it was all news (and very expensive) to me.
Cheers,
David
link for gprs traffic moniter
dcoales said:
I managed to rack up over £100 of data charges before I realised that my network settings (buried away down start->connections->connections->advanced->select networks .... obviously !) were set to use the cellphone connection by default. It was therefore using HSDPA even when wifi was connected. I proved this by downloading an app called GPRS Traffic Monitor. It's very basic but it monitors your GPRS/HSDPA traffic. I've now switched the default connection to be "My Work Network" instead of "Contract Internet" and traffic monitor now shows no increased data usage while the wifi is connected.
I've also noticed (although not scientifically tested) that if an application gets a connection via HSPDA before the wifi connection is established then it continues to use HSPDA and doesn't switch over.
Maybe everyone else knows all this but it was all news (and very expensive) to me.
Cheers,
David
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hie have you got a link for gprs traffic moniter, either freeware or paid thanks
www.efficasoft.com. Costs about $10. BTW this is just the first one I found and there may be better ones out there if you have the time to do some google searching. However, this one does seem to work and a couple of other I looked at were fine with monitoring GPRS but couldn't seem to handle HSDPA - this one seems to work fine though.
At the moment I'm still trialling it and if nothing better turns up in the next couple of days I'll register.
Which version did you select?
I can't get the efficasoft cab to install (it keeps reporting back as installation unsuccessful).
Any clues?
I think I downloaded GPRSMonitor_PPC12.cab - I'll check tomorrow and repost if different - I'm just going out now.
dcoales said:
I managed to rack up over £100 of data charges before I realised that my network settings (buried away down start->connections->connections->advanced->select networks .... obviously !) were set to use the cellphone connection by default. It was therefore using HSDPA even when wifi was connected. I proved this by downloading an app called GPRS Traffic Monitor. It's very basic but it monitors your GPRS/HSDPA traffic. I've now switched the default connection to be "My Work Network" instead of "Contract Internet" and traffic monitor now shows no increased data usage while the wifi is connected.
I've also noticed (although not scientifically tested) that if an application gets a connection via HSPDA before the wifi connection is established then it continues to use HSPDA and doesn't switch over.
Maybe everyone else knows all this but it was all news (and very expensive) to me.
Cheers,
David
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Are you sure that you don't have some other setting wrong?
I have cellular network selected here but have issues with it dialing with wifi or activesync connected.
This is not about HOW TO DISABLE the data connection: I know there are plenty of ways and apps to do that, even automatically.
As regards me I have two manual options to do that on my phone:
1. In the Comm manager, under Wireless Controls, I have 3G on/off option, which I can use to switch between 3G and 2G network
2. ModaCo NoData, which I can use to ENABLE/DISABLE my "H3G Internet" data connection
My questions are:
a] do I have to use both?
b] if either one is enough, which one is the best (or: what is the difference between the two)?
Thanks
I believe if you are on the 2G network, you can still connect to the internet via GPRS?
thegios said:
1. In the Comm manager, under Wireless Controls, I have 3G on/off option, which I can use to switch between 3G and 2G network
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This does what it says, switches your phone from 3G/2G networks to 2G only. But in both cases your phone can place a data connection, only it will be slower when on 2G (GPRS/EDGE).
To disable the connection, you need to use nodata. The other option does nothing in this regard.
So in the end your question still actually was about how to disable
Fine understood
New question then: considering that I have automatic wetaher/location/facebook.pushmail active, if I disable data connection at night and in the office, would this save battery life?
Most likely a little,yes. But data connection barely uses anything when idle, so you save the little amount of traffic that takes place from the updates. And the phone will still wake up at the update intervals to try and connect, which drains pretty much the same as the connection itself.
Never used wi-fi on a phone before. Once i'm connected to my local wi-fi, is that what the internet goes through and i won't be using my data usage or do i need to do something to make sure it's running through wi-fi and not using my usage?
yup once you are on wifi the data connection logo should disappear and all traffic should be via the wifi connection.
try downloading 3g watchdog from the market to keep track of data usage. its really useful.. for me anyway
cheers
hi guys if anyone can help will be greatful.
when i connect to the wifi and browse interenet, my x2 still uses data connection to browse and my balance gets deducted.
is there anyone i can switch of data connection or does it automatically switch off when the Wifi gets On.
And i think PLAY NOW doesnt use WIFI it only uses DATA connection, because it never works on WIFi and keeps giving a error.
Hi, I never quite understood how could Windows Mobile lack some "Preferred accounts" or "Priority" settings like the one my beloved SE P1i has.
Indeed even I'm connected on Wifi the HSDPA data connection goes on at its own will.
However I know a couple of workarounds:
For users with an unlimited or large data plan who want only to supress data connection in roaming for fear of huge bills, there is NoDataInRoaming, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131
If you simply want to shut off your data connection and make it stay that way until you tell it otherwise, try Red Frogfhish Data Controller http://www.redfrogfish.com/139/data-controller-update-version/
adils3d said:
hi guys if anyone can help will be greatful.
when i connect to the wifi and browse interenet, my x2 still uses data connection to browse and my balance gets deducted.
is there anyone i can switch of data connection or does it automatically switch off when the Wifi gets On.
And i think PLAY NOW doesnt use WIFI it only uses DATA connection, because it never works on WIFi and keeps giving a error.
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the simple trick is that, u have to just turn off your data account settings while using wifi...
it happened to me as well, when i had no knowledge about changing settings..
when u r about to connect wifi, 1st use these simple steps
1: go to start
2: go to settings
3: go to connections
4: further go to connections
5: select advance
6: change ur sim settings network to any other network, like my ISP e.t.c
by this trick u will never be discharged from ur balance