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Use wifi without suscribing to data package?

its been posted before, but i wanted to clarify, so dont yell at me... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325973)
I dont suscribe to data, but want to use wi fi. so if i use that no data thing, is it possible?
thanks
aurash

at times i would just airplane mode at times and just use wifi, even for calls. So yeah you can do that...

so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)

encephalon9986 said:
so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)
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If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.

Originally Posted by worwig
If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.
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yeah thats what ive heard. It seems like if you want a ppc or smartphone that your have to get the data package to even get the phone. thanks for the quick response.

This is something I banged out for a couple of Sprint users, but it covers the basics of what you have to do for other carriers as well:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180141

I just switched from Qwest to Verizon and got upgraded to the 6800 from the 6700. To get around the data plan you can use the pay as you go just change the dial up number to anything but #777 and you never connect to the network and don't get charged.

I dont have a data plan either. I use the wifi all the time. the main reason I got this phone was for the wifi capability. I am curious how to use it uner flight mode because it never lets me..

Completely disable 3g data connections forever, and still use wifi
This is my first contribution to xda-forums! I'm glad I can help at all when I've benefitted so much... Thanks to all!
NOTE: After the following steps, Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably will want to use Nodata, and NOT the following solution. You just might have to open Nodata and disable the data connection every time you soft-reset.
I was finally able to completely 100% block the 3g data connection on my Verizon XV6800 (aka Mogul aka Titan) was the following three steps:
1. The key culprit is HTC_CM_Guardian.exe in the windows directory. I couldn't edit it or delete it via Total Commander file explorer, but I was able to rename it! This makes the OS unable to find the program when it tries to re-set the Data connection settings.
2. Under Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Select which networks are automatically used," hit "Select Networks."
3. Under "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" hit "New...".
4. Enter any name you want (mine's "nodata!") and leave all the other settings blank.
5. To be safe, you may have to delete the Verizon Or "Internet" Connection on the Tasks Tab of Settings > Connections > Connections. Save and exit.
Voila! Wifi, yes; 3g, no! No more nasty billing surprises.
Modaco's Nodata program is awesome, but the problem was that HTC_CM_Guardian.exe re-enabled the data connection every time I reset the phone. Plus, HTC_CM_Guardian.exe would also thwart any effort to block data via the "Connection Settings." By renaming HTC_CM_Guardian.exe and creating a "nodata!" connection that programs auto-connecting to the internet would try to use (and fail), we get three results:
1. Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably won't to use this solution.
2. When you reboot, the OS is unable to mess-up your "Connection Settings", so
3. Unless you have an active wifi connection, programs will try to connect to the Internet using the "nodata!" settings, which, being empty, will fail, exactly as planned.
Hope it helps.

simple solution
It's a lot easier to check the "use dialing rules" box. I had a HTC Touch that I used this on and when I lost that, went to a Mogul. I love the wifi on it! I worked as a ATS rep for Sprint for 5 years and half the time when a windows phone would not connect to vision, it was the checked dialing rules box or a wrong number like the customer's own number instead of the dialing string. I tried just deleting the dialing string but even a soft reset caused the phone to recreate the #777 as well as the phone as modem #777. I hated the phone connecting on it's own, bumping the wrong button in my pocket, and I know this will work every time. EVDO data transfer charges without a plan will cap at $75 now but still why take the chance? If you absolutely have to get on the web and there's no wifi around, break down, call *2 and add a $15 vision plan, do what you need to like find a location with Live search then cancel it the next day. The plan will be prorated from when you added it to when it was cancelled. The only hitch is you have to allow your device to IOTA successfully while in a Sprint service area once to get the data settings in the phone which entails the data transfer again. Ahhh, I'm liking the wifi more and more......
HTC 6800 wm 6.1
HTC 6900 wm 6.1
Philips VELO win ce 1.0

Data Connection question

I have noticed my Xperia has turned on the data connection a few times without me requesting it to. I was not doing anything, so hopefuly i will not be charged (i don't have any web usage in my contract).
Is there anything i can install that will password protect the data connection or at least stop it acciedently turning on?

Had the same with my Prophet - in the end I installed SPB GPRS Monitor which gave me an idea of how much it used (could also set it to warn you when it went over limits, cut connection I think, etc)
Next to that, whenever I wanted to disable it (e.g. roaming, etc) I changed the networks used (settings-->connections-->select networks) to something without settings, that way programs that connected automatically didn't find the right settings and couldn't connect (for when the phone was in my pocket etc).
Not sure if there is an app available now to PW protect the data connection - been on an unlimited plan for a while now (internet/rss feeds etc).

I had a similar issue until my data plan became active.
There's a free program on the modaco website called nodata that allows you to turn off/on the data connections when needed. It worked very well whilst I was using it.
... here's the link NoData Utility (Modaco)

Force E-mail to use WiFi

I gave my wife my old 8125 to use when her phone went out, now she's hooked on it & wants to be able to check e-mail. she dosen't have or want a data plan on it, and is home most of the time, but can't get to the computer b/c of other responsibilities.
I have set it up to access wifi, and it will use it for PIE, But when I set up the e-mail account it wants to dial out to check. I have tried setting the account to work, and internet but it just won't work, If I let it use medianet it's fine.
Any ideas?

I have not found a way to keep WIFI active at all times and doing so would kill the battery in just a few hours anyway. (seems to be more problematic on secure wifi networks)
This is the solution I use because I don't have an unlimited data plan and I don't want anything using the mobile phone network and thus being charged for data usage.
I stop GPRS on the phone using a freeware program called "NODATA". It toggles off the data connection to the phone company. The phone itself and text messaging still work without GPRS. I can then connect to a hotspot and everything else uses wifi instead. SMTP mail, internet browsing, google, search, etc. all flow through the wifi and I don't get billed for it.
See - hXXp://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Works great for me. Simply toggle GPRS back on only when you need it...
I've heard of others setting up "fake" GPRS connections settings and switching to those. Since the "fake" connection fails, it rolls over to WIFI. But this is much simpler.

db90483 said:
I have not found a way to keep WIFI active at all times and doing so would kill the battery in just a few hours anyway. (seems to be more problematic on secure wifi networks)
This is the solution I use because I don't have an unlimited data plan and I don't want anything using the mobile phone network and thus being charged for data usage.
I stop GPRS on the phone using a freeware program called "NODATA". It toggles off the data connection to the phone company. The phone itself and text messaging still work without GPRS. I can then connect to a hotspot and everything else uses wifi instead. SMTP mail, internet browsing, google, search, etc. all flow through the wifi and I don't get billed for it.
See - hXXp://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Works great for me. Simply toggle GPRS back on only when you need it...
I've heard of others setting up "fake" GPRS connections settings and switching to those. Since the "fake" connection fails, it rolls over to WIFI. But this is much simpler.
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try wifimonster

Permantely turn off Data

Is there way I can permanently turn off data so that programs like mail and weather do not automatically connect to it and turn it. I don't have a data plan so I don't want to be charged for it. The only reason i don't just delete the AT&T media net settings is because I need it when I want to use MMS.

Search on "NoData".

the problem with no data is that i cant reconnect to media net after i disable it. so im looking for an alternate solution

In that case as far as I can tell, you'll probably need to turn off the relevant settings for weather and mail, etc.

That's what I figured is the only solution, but sometimes the phone will just automatically connect to data so that there is the symbol on the top bar and when I go to the communications screen, the data switch is off. Will I be charged just for being connected or only if I download something. Basically is it charged by just bytes downloaded or also by time connected.

Yeah I had the same problem when I was roaming abroad. Every day it connected at night and used for approx. 1euro50 data. By the time I was back home I received a 45 euro bill! I also disabled weather, sync and stocks. No idea what application using data connection...

MoDaCo noData allows you to turn off Internet, WAP, and MMS independently. Why is this not a suitable solution?

Anyone elses device using an absurd amount of data?

So I just checked my account to see my data usage and I have used 230MB in just 8 days.
The strange thing is, I really haven't been using it much on the go except for exchange email.
Whenever I download apps I make sure the Wifi is on.
Has anyone else noticed this?

Have you checked any apps you've installed. Maybe one of them is using your data connection ALOT. Also, you can turn the data connection off (I think) Under "All Apps > Settings > Cellular > Data connection slider. I think that turns it off. You can also set the Phone updates to only use Wi-Fi. "Settings > Updates? > uncheck use data connection.

I didn't even think about that.
I uninstalled a weather app that I had (and rarely use actually).
I also unchecked the updated over cellular option.
It got me thinking and I looked through the other options and noticed "Feedback" was turned on and checked to use cellular data.
Thanks for the tips, hopefully that will stop the data monster.

data useage
I've had the same problem with data being UPLOADED to my carrier without my knowledge and I dont use email or messaging and have only downloaded thru marketplace when i am connect via WiFi. It's not the feedback option becasue I've had that turned off. Something is causing this on my HTC Surround. Spent some time with AT&T tech support and they don't know yet either. In a short amount of time 60 MB of data was uploaded for which I am charged. 99% of the time I am connected via WiFi. If you turn OFF data, located under settings/cellular, it will stop this from happening. You can leave data turned off and still use your Wifi. So DATA refers to info being sent or download thru your cellular network, not Wifi. The tech guy thought that maybe the data was being sent during brief periods when the Wifi connection dropped which is possible so leaving the DATA setting off will prevent that from happening. If anyone figures out which app is responsible please post here.

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I just unchecked both options under updates too though I dont see how checking for phone updates could use so much data.

There are a few things that may use up so much data. Many applications, such as weather apps or news apps as mentioned, use a lot of data if left unchecked. Also, turn off the feedback option at the bottom of the settings menu, as that can send quite a bit of megabytes flying in the air, especially overnight. Bing maps, as well as the "find my phone" applications use data as well, and the severity of the uploads can be lessened if you turn it off or do not turn on the constant check....