Hello guys...I know this thread has come up tens of times but after reading every single one I havent reach to a conclusion and this becomes very frustrating;/ [want to mention that I was an iPhone user from the first day. This is my first time with Android...wanted to give it a try cause I was sick of iPhones small screen]
So i have ordered the case and the memory card .. but yet I have chosen which phone to buy.
In my country I have the choice between the 2. Basically only one store in the whole country sells the "OCTA" version.
So let me tell you how I am going to use my device and please advise accordingly.
1. Facebook
2. Browsing
3. Music
4. GPS
5. Some normal gaming (Not Hardcore)
I want to use my device for long term 2+. I dont want in one year to experience lag because of a newer firmware etc etc. You got the point right?
Also my country does not support LTE. I am not using 3g because is SO SLOW and expensive...
I have read many Pros and Cons. For example:
i9500 - does not support OpenGL ES 3.0 + Not so good Battery Life + Not so much developer support + in a lot cases overheating
i9505 - Audio issues (crackling) + not so good audio and camera chip somthing like that...
Anws I think you got the point. Any suggestions will highly appreciated from both users (i9500 + i9505)
Thanks a lot!
no one? I know guys that this has been answered hundred of times but come on help one new android user
I would suggest i9505. I'm not a fan of samsung phones because were using lately most of the time nexus devices. And I can tell you if you want a stability of an iphone(not trolling ) and all the goodies from android go with 9505 put the Google version of Android on this phone and you'll be good to go.
First thing when I heard that this Samsung will be available with vanilla android I went to the shop and bought it.
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kluzik1 said:
I would suggest i9505. I'm not a fan of samsung phones because were using lately most of the time nexus devices. And I can tell you if you want a stability of an iphone(not trolling ) and all the goodies from android go with 9505 put the Google version of Android on this phone and you'll be good to go.
First thing when I heard that this Samsung will be available with vanilla android I went to the shop and bought it.
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As I am new to this world I dont have a clue about rooting...google version...etc etc but thanks for the info anws!
You'll be ok just go with 9505 version then read about on this forum and you'll be good
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any other suggestions guys??? thanks!
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no one? I know guys that this has been answered hundred of times but come on help one new android user
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Hi mate,
I also changed to the S4 for the same reasons (previously had iphone). At the time I actually wanted to get the i9500 but they hadn't hit the shelves yet. So I ended up with the i9505.
I find it a bit confusing that your country doesn't support 4G and you aren't going to have 3G. So you won't have mobile data? But perhaps you plan to use the internet over wifi? Maybe I didn't read your original post properly.
Anyway
If I was you I would buy the i9505 (which is what I have). Primarily because there seem to be less issues and the performance isn't *that* much worse than the i9500. I use my phone for exactly what you have listed and its been great.
Now that i've got the i9505 i've never looked back
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Hi mate,
I also changed to the S4 for the same reasons (previously had iphone). At the time I actually wanted to get the i9500 but they hadn't hit the shelves yet. So I ended up with the i9505.
I find it a bit confusing that your country doesn't support 4G and you aren't going to have 3G. So you won't have mobile data? But perhaps you plan to use the internet over wifi? Maybe I didn't read your original post properly.
Anyway
If I was you I would buy the i9505 (which is what I have). Primarily because there seem to be less issues and the performance isn't *that* much worse than the i9500. I use my phone for exactly what you have listed and its been great.
Now that i've got the i9505 i've never looked back
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Thanks for your info mate... Basically in my country 3G mobile data is expensive and SLOW... so I prefer using WIFI...
Thanks again!
Man, take 9505 for sure. Audio is very good and camera is the best I've ever seen in my life. Photos are sharp and beautiful, no pink spots (as there were on GS2), video is superb. Shutter speed could be something better but taking photo in about half of a second will suffice and I'm sure Samsung will improve it even further. CPU is just insane. It's so powerfull that even in few years it'll still overrank most phones (as GS2 does now).
Go to sammobile.com and look in how many countries 9505 is available comparing to 9500. Also Google have choosen 9505 - that means something - why not Exynos or Exynos with LTE. Look like Exynos version is best for benchmarks and Qualcomm best to use. I would definitely not exchange my 9505 for any other device available today as it meets all my needs and prove to be the very best phone I've ever have. There are some theoretical cons as shutter speed but from I can say - if You don't read about them You will not notice them Interface lags were eliminated with MEA rom. Check if it's already available for You region. This is obvious that there will be much more issues described with 9505 on forums as great majority of GS4s are 9505.
The only problem with buying any Galaxy S device is that You cannot check the screen before buy as it's covered with black foil. My GS2 had some visible flaws on it. I got used to them as many ppl said that it's very common. Luckily my GS4 screen is almost perfect with just some markings characteristic to amoled.
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Man, take 9505 for sure. Audio is very good and camera is the best I've ever seen in my life. Photos are sharp and beautiful, no pink spots (as there were on GS2), video is superb. Shutter speed could be something better but taking photo in about half of a second will suffice and I'm sure Samsung will improve it even further. CPU is just insane. It's so powerfull that even in few years it'll still overrank most phones (as GS2 does now).
Go to sammobile.com and look in how many countries 9505 is available comparing to 9500. Also Google have choosen 9505 - that means something - why not Exynos or Exynos with LTE. Look like Exynos version is best for benchmarks and Qualcomm best to use. I would definitely not exchange my 9505 for any other device available today as it meets all my needs and prove to be the very best phone I've ever have. There are some theoretical cons as shutter speed but from I can say - if You don't read about them You will not notice them Interface lags were eliminated with MEA rom. Check if it's already available for You region.
The only problem with buying any Galaxy S device is that You cannot check the screen before buy as it's covered with black foil. My GS2 had some visible flaws on it. I got used to them as many ppl said that it's very common. Luckily my GS4 screen is almost perfect with just some markings characteristic to amoled.
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Thanks for your reply also... until now only i9505 answered back to this thread... lets see if any i9500 will give me his own opinion...
With new updates 9500 never heats up, im happy with battery life, not even one issue is on my phone. We have both here in my country, and i chosed the octa version. I know we have less support by devs but personally i don use stock android, i hope it will be for people who like aosp roms. But for me 9500 is really beast.
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xhaniGS2 said:
With new updates 9500 never heats up, im happy with battery life, not even one issue is on my phone. We have both here in my country, and i chosed the octa version. I know we have less support by devs but personally i don use stock android, i hope it will be for people who like aosp roms. But for me 9500 is really beast.
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thanks mate!! need more info though
any other suggestions guys? Thanks a lot!
Mate, people who own an i9500 will tell you to buy an i9500, and people who own an i9505 will tell you to buy an i9505. They will both list what it does well, what it doesn't do so well, and what has been fixed and so on. Ultimately, the only person you should be listening to is yourself. If you want LTE and more developer support, go for the i9505. If you want 8 cores to boast about, and perhaps a tiny bit faster processing, go for the i9500. Both phones are identical for what you get (excluding what's under the hood) and if you are only going to be using the phone like an average person, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the i9505, and no reason for you to have that extra processing power (not that the i9505 can't handle it anyway). Anyway what I'm saying is, the choice is yours, and letting other people tell you what to buy is a bad thing, the information is there about both phones, you must study this carefully, understand all, and then make your decision.
And just to clarify, my camera performs perfectly, and this is with my phone being on an older firmware as my carrier is useless at pushing updates. Also, the audio quality is great on my i9505, I use Beyerdynamics in-ear headphones, and there is no problem with them whatsoever. I guess the problems people suffer from their phones are luck of the draw, and I must be one of the lucky ones. If you have any problems, return the phone within the 2 weeks most carriers allow you.
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Mate, people who own an i9500 will tell you to buy an i9500, and people who own an i9505 will tell you to buy an i9505. They will both list what it does well, what it doesn't do so well, and what has been fixed and so on. Ultimately, the only person you should be listening to is yourself. If you want LTE and more developer support, go for the i9505. If you want 8 cores to boast about, and perhaps a tiny bit faster processing, go for the i9500. Both phones are identical for what you get (excluding what's under the hood) and if you are only going to be using the phone like an average person, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the i9505, and no reason for you to have that extra processing power (not that the i9505 can't handle it anyway). Anyway what I'm saying is, the choice is yours, and letting other people tell you what to buy is a bad thing, the information is there about both phones, you must study this carefully, understand all, and then make your decision.
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Noted. thanks!
No big difference in performance.
But i9505 have better developer support. My modest guess is that i9500 owners have to wait some time (or ever?) to get same support that i9505 will have.
BTW I don't want to use LTE/4G because of big battery drain. Sometimes I even turn off 3G and that makes a HUGE difference compared to 2G.
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No big difference in performance.
But i9505 have better developer support. My modest guess is that i9500 owners have to wait some time (or ever?) to get same support that i9505 will have.
BTW I don't want to use LTE/4G because of big battery drain. Sometimes I even turn off 3G and that makes a HUGE difference compared to 2G.
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That is true..also I will nener use 4G or 3G only WIFI.
Thanks
I had hard time choosing between the 2 but i choosed 9500 because the camera is a bit better and better music playback because of the Wolfson DAC.
I have no regrets, i love it, im using XXUBMF8 firmware.
0mega007 said:
I had hard time choosing between the 2 but i choosed 9500 because the camera is a bit better and better music playback because of the Wolfson DAC.
I have no regrets, i love it, im using XXUBMF8 firmware.
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I am feeling the same way .... hard time choosing... it s.ck.s
Unless camera is your top priority just go with i9505. It has better battery life, more developer support, better support in games.
I won't say that I am not satisfied with my i9500 but its not worth paying any premium compared to i9505.
Right now and most probably in the future, the i9500 is not utilizing its 8 cores. Not even does well with battery life compared to i9505.
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Hello!
So I was almost ready to buy the Note yesterday when I read that the International is getting CM9 nightlies while the ATT version is not.
So is the custom rom situation for the ATT version really that bad? As you can tell by my sig, I love tweaknig so maybe I am better off saving and buying the international one?
shaolin95 said:
Hello!
So I was almost ready to buy the Note yesterday when I read that the International is getting CM9 nightlies while the ATT version is not.
So is the custom rom situation for the ATT version really that bad? As you can tell by my sig, I love tweaknig so maybe I am better off saving and buying the international one?
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International version has been having a lot of bricking problems related to CWM/Kernel. We have some great AOSP/AOKP roms and devs, but a few are currently out of the picture due to bricked phones. Somewhat concerning for us USA users as there is no way initiate warranty repairs on international phones. (I've tried, no bueno)
Our CM9 version is also somewhat lacking, in my opinion. The kernel being used needs a lot of work and the phone is no where near as responsive as the other i9220 & XXLPY based roms. Unfortunately, it is the only "safe" version of ICS that we can run, currently.
AT&T version may not be a bad decision purely based on warranty. Would certainly hate to give up my exynos chip though!
Goronok said:
International version has been having a lot of bricking problems related to CWM/Kernel. We have some great AOSP/AOKP roms and devs, but a few are currently out of the picture due to bricked phones. Somewhat concerning for us USA users as there is no way initiate warranty repairs on international phones. (I've tried, no bueno)
Our CM9 version is also somewhat lacking, in my opinion. The kernel being used needs a lot of work and the phone is no where near as responsive as the other i9220 & XXLPY based roms. Unfortunately, it is the only "safe" version of ICS that we can run, currently.
AT&T version may not be a bad decision purely based on warranty. Would certainly hate to give up my exynos chip though!
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hahahah all was sounding good towards going with ATT until you dropped that last statement!
So I see , its a bit of a risky device to play with compared to my Captivate.
I wonder how bad stock ICS is...at least if I can overclock it I wont feel too bad.
Is that feasible?
shaolin95 said:
hahahah all was sounding good towards going with ATT until you dropped that last statement!
So I see , its a bit of a risky device to play with compared to my Captivate.
I wonder how bad stock ICS is...at least if I can overclock it I wont feel too bad.
Is that feasible?
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I'd say so I had to swap my note 3 times before i found a screen I was happy with - turned out to be an expensive endeavor. With AT&T you could just swap it under the 30 day return policy (or whatever it currently is) until you get one your happy with.
Screen you were happy with? Is there a problem with screens too? Is it something about black level issues I think I read?
Gosh, my captivate looks so small but I am used to it so now I am getting scared
Basically I was going to get a tablet but I was like..in reality a tablet is something ELSE to carry...a Note...is a phone that I ALWAYS bring with me but happens to be BIG and can act as a small tablet bring a lot of joy
shaolin95 said:
Screen you were happy with? Is there a problem with screens too? Is it something about black level issues I think I read?
Gosh, my captivate looks so small but I am used to it so now I am getting scared
Basically I was going to get a tablet but I was like..in reality a tablet is something ELSE to carry...a Note...is a phone that I ALWAYS bring with me but happens to be BIG and can act as a small tablet bring a lot of joy
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Yeah, I run tablet UI on my note and it is crazy awesome.
My first screen had a few dead & unlit pixels (not super common with these phones) and the second had super bad banding. (which is common) Both may have been fine for some, but drove me bonkers.
If you do sway for the international version, id recommend purchasing a 3rd party warranty. I should have done this with my first note, but didn't know that these services existed. My current note is covered by CPS (http://www.cpscentral.com/) and was not very expensive.
Thanks for the idea mate. I will indeed do that but now I have to look for that banding because I always drool about the black levels of my Captivate so banding in anyway will make me go crazy
shaolin95 said:
Hello!
So I was almost ready to buy the Note yesterday when I read that the International is getting CM9 nightlies while the ATT version is not.
So is the custom rom situation for the ATT version really that bad? As you can tell by my sig, I love tweaknig so maybe I am better off saving and buying the international one?
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You're in the wrong forums, these are not the forums for the AT&T Note, being a COMPLETELY different device they have their own forums.
Personally, I would not go with any AT&T-mangled device - the I777 was the last device to receive decent development due to commonality with international devices. All subsequent devices have been severely mangled.
Well at least the captivate has been nice to me. I will look for its forum to see what the deal is with it.
Why is always the USA messing up the phones damn it.
Also, the ATT Note has LTE. That might be something you want/like if you are in an area that has LTE. I am not so I am perfectly happy with my international note.
I do feel like this thread is kind of relevant though because you are comparing the two Notes and asking about the international note.
shaolin95 said:
Well at least the captivate has been nice to me. I will look for its forum to see what the deal is with it.
Why is always the USA messing up the phones damn it.
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Mr shaolin! I remember you from my captivate days if you're gonna pick up a Note then definitely get the international, man I am straight up in love with this device
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Reynaldinho111 said:
Mr shaolin! I remember you from my captivate days if you're gonna pick up a Note then definitely get the international, man I am straight up in love with this device
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Sup mate
yeah it looks like the International is the riskier one but with lots more chances of tweaking and roms
shaolin95 said:
Sup mate
yeah it looks like the International is the riskier one but with lots more chances of tweaking and roms
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Better user experience trumps everything, and it is better on the international Note. I played with the AT&T models but they were just so slow!
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I was so set on the GS3 but then I see the monster in person and and compared them and I was like...if the GS3 will end up being a dual core in the states..or even at quadcore..I think I will get more use out of the bigger screen than quadcores except for benching lol
FWIW, I was considering a tablet previous to buying a note. The note has fulfilled that role for me as well as that of a phone. Real dual purpose device unless you have strong needs for a tiny phone or large tablet.
Thanks. That is exactly why I got so interested in it after dreaming about a GS3 for so long LOL
This should interest you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657244
shaolin95 said:
Sup mate
yeah it looks like the International is the riskier one but with lots more chances of tweaking and roms
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The N7000 is not risky at all, just DON'T do what you are NOT supposed to do. Like use a kernel with I/O bug (ICS leaks). If you want to CM9 then there is no problems with that kernel. We also have a very good MIUI port.
About the screen, no problems with mine at all, its a beautiful amoled screen.
Forget about crappy AT&T Frankensteins, and go for the Oficial Note (N7000) and enjoy what samsung design for you (Exynos )
TLDR: I'm thinking of returning a GS4 for a HTC One Dev Edition, hoping to get advice, see bullets below, thanks
My old phone broke last week, and I had to run out and get a new one on short notice (didn't have time to fully research). I read some basic comparisons and went with the Samsung, primarily because I wanted a replaceable battery and more storage with the SD card option, it was faster, and it had some extra features.
Now I'm experiencing a bit of buyer's remorse. After more research, it seems there's several different versions of the GS4, and I'm starting to feel like I'm paying a premium price for a "second best" handset, as a more powerful processor is available in other countries. To me, if I'm buying Samsung's most expensive unit (the Note is sort of a tablet so I don't count it), then I want to get the best tech on the market. Come to find, the "best" version is Korea-only. The HTC One, as far as I know, is the best HTC offers, and is lower-price than the Samsung.
Other things are bothering me too: the SD card support is great, but the phone puts almost everything on internal storage; the GS4's camera may have a lot of mega-pixels, but overall I find it's quality to be worse; the build quality makes the phone feel fragile; it's just a tiny bit too big; all those advertised smart gestures only work in a few specific apps, and even then, don't always work right; etc. There's a lot of good things about it, to be sure (stellar battery life, even with all the TouchWiz wastefulness), but I'm starting to wonder if I would be happier with a One. Additionally, I want to be able to flash custom ROMs to my phone, and after reading some posts here and on other forums, it seems a locked bootloader may cause issues for me in the future even if I can root and flash either device now.
So, I'm considering returning it and getting a One. I'm in the US, on T-Mobile (GSM), but if I'm going to make this change and give up SD support (or "SD support," I should say), I want a 64 GB version out of the box, and an unlocked bootloader. In case you missed the title, that means the Developer Edition available direct from HTC.
My Concerns:
If I get the One from HTC, it won't have T-mobile software. This means no wifi calling (something I need). Could I just flash the T-mobile ROM to get it?
Does anyone have the Dev Edition running on T-mobile? Does it work with the network (HSPA, LTE, etc.)? It's missing the 1700 band like the Google and ATT editions, but I'm not sure if that matters.
Will the Developer edition have any difference in terms of custom ROM support, compared to the "nexus" version or a normal T-mobile version?
If I do stick with the GS4 (T-Mobile SGH-M919), or get the "standard" T-mobile HTC One, can I just root / flash that, unlock the bootloader, and basically have the google version? Or do I have to forever worry about issues because the phone can never truly be unlocked? Or a high risk of bricking from flashing / unlocking the bootloader? (I'm reasonably technical, but new to the process overall).
Just Another User said:
TLDR: I'm thinking of returning a GS4 for a HTC One Dev Edition, hoping to get advice, see bullets below, thanks
My old phone broke last week, and I had to run out and get a new one on short notice (didn't have time to fully research). I read some basic comparisons and went with the Samsung, primarily because I wanted a replaceable battery and more storage with the SD card option, it was faster, and it had some extra features.
Now I'm experiencing a bit of buyer's remorse. After more research, it seems there's several different versions of the GS4, and I'm starting to feel like I'm paying a premium price for a "second best" handset, as a more powerful processor is available in other countries. To me, if I'm buying Samsung's most expensive unit (the Note is sort of a tablet so I don't count it), then I want to get the best tech on the market. Come to find, the "best" version is Korea-only. The HTC One, as far as I know, is the best HTC offers, and is lower-price than the Samsung.
Other things are bothering me too: the SD card support is great, but the phone puts almost everything on internal storage; the GS4's camera may have a lot of mega-pixels, but overall I find it's quality to be worse; the build quality makes the phone feel fragile; it's just a tiny bit too big; all those advertised smart gestures only work in a few specific apps, and even then, don't always work right; etc. There's a lot of good things about it, to be sure (stellar battery life, even with all the TouchWiz wastefulness), but I'm starting to wonder if I would be happier with a One. Additionally, I want to be able to flash custom ROMs to my phone, and after reading some posts here and on other forums, it seems a locked bootloader may cause issues for me in the future even if I can root and flash either device now.
So, I'm considering returning it and getting a One. I'm in the US, on T-Mobile (GSM), but if I'm going to make this change and give up SD support (or "SD support," I should say), I want a 64 GB version out of the box, and an unlocked bootloader. In case you missed the title, that means the Developer Edition available direct from HTC.
My Concerns:
If I get the One from HTC, it won't have T-mobile software. This means no wifi calling (something I need). Could I just flash the T-mobile ROM to get it?
Does anyone have the Dev Edition running on T-mobile? Does it work with the network (HSPA, LTE, etc.)? It's missing the 1700 band like the Google and ATT editions, but I'm not sure if that matters.
Will the Developer edition have any difference in terms of custom ROM support, compared to the "nexus" version or a normal T-mobile version?
If I do stick with the GS4 (T-Mobile SGH-M919), or get the "standard" T-mobile HTC One, can I just root / flash that, unlock the bootloader, and basically have the google version? Or do I have to forever worry about issues because the phone can never truly be unlocked? Or a high risk of bricking from flashing / unlocking the bootloader? (I'm reasonably technical, but new to the process overall).
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If you do your research the quad core beats out the big little in some areas and vice versa.
The Qualcomm one though much bigger dev support and with the Google edition S4 coming out custom aosp roms are just over the horizon.
I would hold onto that sgs4,specially if it has unlocked bootloaders.
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Hell no **** the s4 I hated that phone and I had it before I switched to the one but to each their opinion
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SlimJ87D said:
If you do your research the quad core beats out the big little in some areas and vice versa.
The Qualcomm one though much bigger dev support and with the Google edition S4 coming out custom aosp roms are just over the horizon.
I would hold onto that sgs4,specially if it has unlocked bootloaders.
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Thanks for the reply. It's true the performance is close, but the "8 core" is the stronger version (longer battery life, better GPU, and a better DAC). But it's not night and day, and it's arguably the same / less than the hardware difference between the GS4 and HTC One anyway. More a principle thing I guess, just bothers me that I'm paying top dollar and not getting "the best." You say it has bigger dev support (I've also seen that stated elsewhere), but what about compared to the One?
My understanding is that the bootloader on my model is in fact locked (SGH-M919 / US T-Mobile version). Not sure if unlocking them is an easy matter (I know it's much more risky than just flashing a ROM; messing up the bootloader can really brick a phone, so I'm a little nervous about doing that). I suppose another option is to get the Google GS4 with an unlocked bootloader when that comes out in a few weeks...
The One has great dev support. Like really great. Maybe not as good as the S4, but definitely sufficient enough. It will be getting official paranoid android which I'm excited about. And yes the S4 is bootloader locked. Don't know if it's unlock able yet. Personally I'd say get the one. But that's because I bought the phone and if someone buys a phone, they will defend it as the best. I pretty much bought it for the same reasons others did. Beautiful design, Amazing speakers, high performance, and sense 5 is actually gorgeous. And I didn't want the S4 because of gimmicky features that make you look weird in public (people look at you weird when you swipe your hand over your phone) and are also slow to react, touch wiz is disgusting, and I'm also one of the people that can't stand plastic. I think if you were to flash a t mobile rom you'd get wifi calling working. You could ask someone in the dev section if they bother to answer you. I known for trickdroid in 5.6.0 and below you would pick your carrier and it would have a few adjustments made for whatever you picked (life wifi calling). But 6.0 is based off 4.2.2 and HTC made it so the ROM picks what it needs I think depending on your CID or what you picked as your carrier at setup. I think it's worth a shot to get it though.
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Just Another User said:
TLDR: I'm thinking of returning a GS4 for a HTC One Dev Edition, hoping to get advice, see bullets below, thanks
My old phone broke last week, and I had to run out and get a new one on short notice (didn't have time to fully research). I read some basic comparisons and went with the Samsung, primarily because I wanted a replaceable battery and more storage with the SD card option, it was faster, and it had some extra features.
Now I'm experiencing a bit of buyer's remorse. After more research, it seems there's several different versions of the GS4, and I'm starting to feel like I'm paying a premium price for a "second best" handset, as a more powerful processor is available in other countries. To me, if I'm buying Samsung's most expensive unit (the Note is sort of a tablet so I don't count it), then I want to get the best tech on the market. Come to find, the "best" version is Korea-only. The HTC One, as far as I know, is the best HTC offers, and is lower-price than the Samsung.
Other things are bothering me too: the SD card support is great, but the phone puts almost everything on internal storage; the GS4's camera may have a lot of mega-pixels, but overall I find it's quality to be worse; the build quality makes the phone feel fragile; it's just a tiny bit too big; all those advertised smart gestures only work in a few specific apps, and even then, don't always work right; etc. There's a lot of good things about it, to be sure (stellar battery life, even with all the TouchWiz wastefulness), but I'm starting to wonder if I would be happier with a One. Additionally, I want to be able to flash custom ROMs to my phone, and after reading some posts here and on other forums, it seems a locked bootloader may cause issues for me in the future even if I can root and flash either device now.
So, I'm considering returning it and getting a One. I'm in the US, on T-Mobile (GSM), but if I'm going to make this change and give up SD support (or "SD support," I should say), I want a 64 GB version out of the box, and an unlocked bootloader. In case you missed the title, that means the Developer Edition available direct from HTC.
My Concerns:
If I get the One from HTC, it won't have T-mobile software. This means no wifi calling (something I need). Could I just flash the T-mobile ROM to get it?
Does anyone have the Dev Edition running on T-mobile? Does it work with the network (HSPA, LTE, etc.)? It's missing the 1700 band like the Google and ATT editions, but I'm not sure if that matters.
Will the Developer edition have any difference in terms of custom ROM support, compared to the "nexus" version or a normal T-mobile version?
If I do stick with the GS4 (T-Mobile SGH-M919), or get the "standard" T-mobile HTC One, can I just root / flash that, unlock the bootloader, and basically have the google version? Or do I have to forever worry about issues because the phone can never truly be unlocked? Or a high risk of bricking from flashing / unlocking the bootloader? (I'm reasonably technical, but new to the process overall).
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i sold my galaxy s4 to get the One. i reccomend u get the tmobile one,i had the dev edition on tmobile and had issues with signal,it didnt work well.if u get
tmobile version u can flash international roms,
Get the htc one dude,the s4 lags soo much .
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Thanks for the reply. It's true the performance is close, but the "8 core" is the stronger version (longer battery life, better GPU, and a better DAC). But it's not night and day, and it's arguably the same / less than the hardware difference between the GS4 and HTC One anyway. More a principle thing I guess, just bothers me that I'm paying top dollar and not getting "the best." You say it has bigger dev support (I've also seen that stated elsewhere), but what about compared to the One?
My understanding is that the bootloader on my model is in fact locked (SGH-M919 / US T-Mobile version). Not sure if unlocking them is an easy matter (I know it's much more risky than just flashing a ROM; messing up the bootloader can really brick a phone, so I'm a little nervous about doing that). I suppose another option is to get the Google GS4 with an unlocked bootloader when that comes out in a few weeks...
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Not all of that is true. I've been hanging out in the S4 forums. The Big.Little chip isn't that great. It doesn't have better battery life and some of the guys found out the Big.Little isn't even implemented right. It's not saving as much battery as it's suppose to or does it function like how its presentation presents it.
The GPU on the S600 actually performs better in certain areas than the Octa does.
The CPU is minimal
The DAC tested my GSMArena performed pretty well. It's not on par with Wolfson, but it did pretty well.
And if you have 4G LTE, then it's a no brainer.
Your bootloader isn't locked. YOu can actually unlock that phone with a few dialer codes too and it could be used internationally. And that version can already flash international roms.It sounds like you need to do a lot more research. About 75% or more own the S600 versions and development is going to boom and I mean BOOM! As in explode with this version. Compared to the one, I can't really say, but lets do the math real fast. The one sold about 5 million. The S4 has sold around double of that. And 75% of that is 7.5 mil that own the S600 versions. So development sounds like it will be great on both.
I'm going to put it this one. Benchmarks don't mean squat. If you have 4G LTE, the latency is a lot better and your apps that require a data connection will actually load quicker and be more faster due to loading data faster. Benchmarks don't keep that into account. Other than that, what is the octa going to do? Open a app a few milliseconds, and I mean a very few milliseconds faster but take longer to load the internet?
What matters is functionality. Functionality that has to do with the user experience and physical experience such as screen, sound, which one gives you a better data connection, etc. Don't make a decision on these minimal differences in benchmarks.
I was VERY torn between the two. I went to the AT&T store more then once to fiddle with the devices first hand. I went through review after review on youtube and online. There were two things that sold me on the One over the GS4. First was the speakers. They just plain ROCK! No question. And the second was the fact that every time I went into the store to use the GS4....it has HORRIBLE wake lag. I mean HORRIBLE. That too me was unacceptable on any device, let alone a flagship model...
So, I came home with the one. BUT, it wasnt without issue. The phone was perfect in every way....except for the camera. My camera was stuck (no stabilization). It would take horrible blurry photos no matter what I did. ALWAYS would blur one side of the picture. Messed with it for about a week, finally took it back into the store and swapped it out for another. Now, she takes great, clear pictures!
I couldnt ask for a better phone then the HTC one to be honest.........and that is coming from someone who was a HUGE Samsung fan, and didnt ever think they would buy another HTC due to Sense. Sense 5.0 is just plain awesome!
The HTC One does infact.....ROCK!
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If you do your research the quad core beats out the big little in some areas and vice versa.
The Qualcomm one though much bigger dev support and with the Google edition S4 coming out custom aosp roms are just over the horizon.
I would hold onto that sgs4,specially if it has unlocked bootloaders.
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When did you get your HTC one? What do you think of it?
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When did you get your HTC one? What do you think of it?
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What' sup Baron, I knew you were around these forums. I got it last weekend and I like it a lot. But there are small things i miss on the galaxy line. I'm going to be getting a SGS4 at the end of this month sometime.
Things I like about the HTC One:
1. Not just the build quality, but it seems the software is very optimized. Keep it "simple stupid" really helped guaranteed a great user experience. I was afraid of all the S4 lag stories.
2. Costco has the phone for $129.99 with a accessories kit.
3. The stereo speakers facing you is great. It literally sounds like it's double the decibels now that the speakers actually face you. I have to admit I have been startled by my notifications at work.
4. It really takes advantage of the bass in my car. I listened to Daft Punk and it's much better than my Wolfson SGS3 i9300.
I haven't tried flashing yet though. I'm sure I will flash Android Revolution HD when I finally get bored.
Things that kind of bug me:
1. I haven't gotten the update yet, but not having a menu button is bugging me since a lot of old apps have that huge menu button at the bottom.
2. I miss simple features such as headphone notifications. I walk my dogs everyday and wish notifications would come through my headphones. Maybe a custom rom will bring this feature.
3. The SGS line had custom vibration notification.
4. The notification light is really tiny.
There's pretty much a lot of little features I miss on the SGS4 line. Like swiping in the dialer to call or message. Smart stay! Task manager option in the multitasking window, etc.
I feel like the HTC One and SGS4 are tie neck and neck. But at Costco, the HTC One is $70 cheaper and that's quite a bargain!
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What' sup Baron, I knew you were around these forums. I got it last weekend and I like it a lot. But there are small things i miss on the galaxy line. I'm going to be getting a SGS4 at the end of this month sometime.
Things I like about the HTC One:
1. Not just the build quality, but it seems the software is very optimized. Keep it "simple stupid" really helped guaranteed a great user experience. I was afraid of all the S4 lag stories.
2. Costco has the phone for $129.99 with a accessories kit.
3. The stereo speakers facing you is great. It literally sounds like it's double the decibels now that the speakers actually face you. I have to admit I have been startled by my notifications at work.
4. It really takes advantage of the bass in my car. I listened to Daft Punk and it's much better than my Wolfson SGS3 i9300.
I haven't tried flashing yet though. I'm sure I will flash Android Revolution HD when I finally get bored.
Things that kind of bug me:
1. I haven't gotten the update yet, but not having a menu button is bugging me since a lot of old apps have that huge menu button at the bottom.
2. I miss simple features such as headphone notifications. I walk my dogs everyday and wish notifications would come through my headphones. Maybe a custom rom will bring this feature.
3. The SGS line had custom vibration notification.
4. The notification light is really tiny.
There's pretty much a lot of little features I miss on the SGS4 line. Like swiping in the dialer to call or message. Smart stay! Task manager option in the multitasking window, etc.
I feel like the HTC One and SGS4 are tie neck and neck. But at Costco, the HTC One is $70 cheaper and that's quite a bargain!
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Good to see you here! I hear you. I tried the S4 for a week, it's a good phone but good lord does it stutter a lot. That is unacceptable to me, we have crazy specs and jelly bean. I can't wait for you to try the S4 and give your opinion. Mine? The One is the better flagship for this year.
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Good to see you here! I hear you. I tried the S4 for a week, it's a good phone but good lord does it stutter a lot. That is unacceptable to me, we have crazy specs and jelly bean. I can't wait for you to try the S4 and give your opinion. Mine? The One is the better flagship for this year.
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Yeah I'll be rocking both of them for a little while. Hopefully HTC continues to improve Sense to have more features. I've been keeping up with Naruto too. It's been a up and down excitement and disappointment to me. It's been entertaining, but not good writing haha.
Tis' a device comparison thread which is not allowed (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158159). As can be seen, there is some subjectivity with regard to which is better (and come on, you're not going to get a fair comparison if you post in the HTC One forum ). There's sufficient advice here anyway, so I'll close this thread.
hi guys. i am thinking of buying galaxy s4 having problem choosing between the lte and non lte model. 1st lemme tell you i live in bangladesh where so far only 3g is available. but i happen to travel other countries for my business purpose. i do not understand which model i should choose. so far i know performance wise there is almost no difference at all in this two model. only difference so far i found on net(gsmarena website) that the 9500 has better camera software with polished image, better than 9505. and 9505 has lte over 9500. i really do not understand why samsung release non 4g s4 in 2013. even my optimus g has lte connectivity. now about the price, i do not know about other countries buy here, i9500 cost 51,000 taka means 680 us dollars, where i9505 cost 55,000 taka means 735 us dollars.
i have another question. i used to often call my partners by video call. which i did not get in either optimus g or xperia z. but i did video call with s3 or note 2. so this forced me to think either 4g set has no 3g video call capability or its only samsung that support native video call. its somehow ok for now cause of tango and skype but i had to force my every partners and clients to install either on of them.
so here we are. please help me to decide to buy one. thanks a lot.
I'd gt the non LTE unless you travel more than 10 days a month to places with 4g.
Because by the time Bangladesh gets a nice spread out 4g coverage network, your s4 would be obsolete from a specs perspective.
Here in the uae we have 4g in all major cities but even then some niche spots don't have 4g. But that's only about 10 minutes of my day. Otherwise I have 4g the rest of the time and hence justified the 4g decision.
I think that 9500 users will say 9500/ and 9505 users will say 9505.
Get what they sell in your country. Looks like 9505 gets more support than 9500.
No its up to you, read more on forum about both.
i9505 seams to have longer battery life, better gpu performance, on par cpu performance and less overheating issues.
This is the clear conclusion I have come to after much searching the web, others will surely disagree though.
About the 9505 having more support is due to the fact at the moment is it's around 70% of those manufactured/shipped and also those being the only ones available in most western markets.
4G is not mature at the moment as it has to switch to 3G to make phone calls and also 4G coverage at the moment is not extensive - so in theory it's battery life should be worse than the 9500 - now if the other comparable issues with the 9505 is software related - I would go for the 9500 instead - if it is a design fault then you may better stay clear from the S4 altogether.
Personally I feel the S4 is a rushed product and samsung doesn't seem to have tested it properly - so the people who are using it at the moment are beta testers - only thing owners can hope at the moment these issues are software related and not a design/hardware faults.
The 9505 I had has been sent in for repairs for a heating/call issue - so these issues are common across both the version.
Why are we beta testers?
If anything, we're using an S3.2 beaus it's not thaaat different from the s3.
But defnitey not beta testing it. There are no major faults. I've actually found no faults.
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I think that 9500 users will say 9500/ and 9505 users will say 9505.
Get what they sell in your country. Looks like 9505 gets more support than 9500.
No its up to you, read more on forum about both.
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thanks for your reply. i happen to read many of their pros and cons here and they are almost similar. that is why i confused. i will take 1 or 2 days more to decide.
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About the 9505 having more support is due to the fact at the moment is it's around 70% of those manufactured/shipped and also those being the only ones available in most western markets.
4G is not mature at the moment as it has to switch to 3G to make phone calls and also 4G coverage at the moment is not extensive - so in theory it's battery life should be worse than the 9500 - now if the other comparable issues with the 9505 is software related - I would go for the 9500 instead - if it is a design fault then you may better stay clear from the S4 altogether.
Personally I feel the S4 is a rushed product and samsung doesn't seem to have tested it properly - so the people who are using it at the moment are beta testers - only thing owners can hope at the moment these issues are software related and not a design/hardware faults.
The 9505 I had has been sent in for repairs for a heating/call issue - so these issues are common across both the version.
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From what is see the overheating problem is more common on 9500.
Last update improved a lot the 9505, including the crackling sound with some headphones.
I'm sure in the next update for 9500 will be also lot of improvement.
I'm just saying what i'm reading around. I don't have any of those issues, but they've been reported by other users.
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About the 9505 having more support is due to the fact at the moment is it's around 70% of those manufactured/shipped and also those being the only ones available in most western markets.
4G is not mature at the moment as it has to switch to 3G to make phone calls and also 4G coverage at the moment is not extensive - so in theory it's battery life should be worse than the 9500 - now if the other comparable issues with the 9505 is software related - I would go for the 9500 instead - if it is a design fault then you may better stay clear from the S4 altogether.
Personally I feel the S4 is a rushed product and samsung doesn't seem to have tested it properly - so the people who are using it at the moment are beta testers - only thing owners can hope at the moment these issues are software related and not a design/hardware faults.
The 9505 I had has been sent in for repairs for a heating/call issue - so these issues are common across both the version.
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i really do not understand. we are beta testers? sorry but i do not believe that. so far i did not found any major issues on net. but still i do not know it well since i do not have it. right now you have better experience then me. but i do not agree with beta testers thing. and suppose if we do, we still have warranty right? why they forced us to choose between these two?
and i do not know about other market but here we have both of them. though lte one costs a little higher than non lte version. so its harder to choose.
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and i do not know about other market but here we have both of them. though lte one costs a little higher than non lte version. so its harder to choose.
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Thing is that in performance you will not notice any difference between the 2 of them.
They will both get updates and will get better and better.
You take your time and read more about them around here and whatever you will choose, it will be good. You cannot go wrong with either of them.
My opinion is that 9505 will get updates faster and will have better developer's support. I might be wrong, but i don't think so.
Saw a video where the 9500 outscored the 9505 on every test
ok guys i want to know one more thing. so far i know only snapdragon 600 will support open gl es 3.0 which will come with android 4.3. does anyone know that exynos octa support it too?
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ok guys i want to know one more thing. so far i know only snapdragon 600 will support open gl es 3.0 which will come with android 4.3. does anyone know that exynos octa support it too?
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From what i know the 9505 has adreno320 gpu which supports opengl es3.0 and the 9500 has a powervr SGX 544MP3 which doesn't support it.
If anyone knows better, you're welcome to clear this out for us.
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From what i know the 9505 has adreno320 gpu which supports opengl es3.0 and the 9500 has a powervr SGX 544MP3 which doesn't support it.
If anyone knows better, you're welcome to clear this out for us.
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yeah I would like to know also.!!
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yeah I would like to know also.!!
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I found out this allready, the octa version doesn't support it.
The i9505 can be used for 2 years without being outdated as it supports 4g and gl es3.0 but the i9500 doesnt
also the big battery life difference
in theory the i9500 was supposed to have more life but the i9505 settled the case by a huge increase in batt
also u shud better dev support like u get cm10.1 and aosp and aokp
gsmarena also said that i9505 has better sound quality idk abt that but maybe
in the end go with the i9505 blinded
qazmed said:
The i9505 can be used for 2 years without being outdated as it supports 4g and gl es3.0 but the i9500 doesnt
also the big battery life difference
in theory the i9500 was supposed to have more life but the i9505 settled the case by a huge increase in batt
also u shud better dev support like u get cm10.1 and aosp and aokp
gsmarena also said that i9505 has better sound quality idk abt that but maybe
in the end go with the i9505 blinded
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No, 9500 is the one with better sound quality because it has a Wolfson DAC and also the 9500 has better camera, i chosed the 9500 for this 2 reasons. No regrets
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No, 9500 is the one with better sound quality because it has a Wolfson DAC and also the 9500 has better camera, i chosed the 9500 for this 2 reasons. No regrets
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Ok congratulation
Thanks a lot guys. Its really a great set. Only difference I found so far is the sound. Its one or 2 bar lower than i9500 in earphone mode. But its ok for me.
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can you describe about the quad 1.9ghz and octa versions of Samsung Galaxy S 4 ?
I would suggest you to search within the forum, it has been explained on many occasions.
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i9505 if you ever wanna run a good aosp rom.
Quad for lte and cyanogem, octa for the rest.
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Quad for,
Community support
LTE
Better video recording
Octa for,
Better phone spec
Better photos
Everything else
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As the others.....GT-I9505 FTW
I don't really understand the 'everything else' comments regarding the I9500 over the I9505. Other than a tiny advantage in photo quality and a small advantage in CPU speed which will never be noticed in everyday use, I really can't see what these claims refer to.
From what I can see the I9505 holds all the cards, especially when you consider it's the hardware Google themselves are basing their S4 Nexus on. Faryaab has already said developers will get Google S4 Nexus updates working on the I9505 which will mean official AOSP Android updates pretty much as soon as they're released. The I9500 is stuck with Touchwiz and that's unlikely to change any time soon given that no one appears to be developing for it.
Both lovely phones, but only one winner when all aspects are taken into account. Put it this way, now the development limitations of the Exynos are becoming more and more clear, I would put good money on there being a lot more I9500 owners out there who would swap their device for an I9505 right now than vice-versa. Or at least if they're honest with themselves.
But the first reply is correct, there are already numerous threads on this subject.
Pagnell said:
I don't really understand the 'everything else' comments regarding the I9500 over the I9505. Other than a tiny advantage in photo quality and a small advantage in CPU speed which will never be noticed in everyday use, I really can't see what these claims refer to.
From what I can see the I9505 holds all the cards, especially when you consider it's the hardware Google themselves are basing their S4 Nexus on. Faryaab has already said developers will get Google S4 Nexus updates working on the I9505 which will mean official AOSP Android updates pretty much as soon as they're released. The I9500 is stuck with Touchwiz and that's unlikely to change any time soon given that no one appears to be developing for it.
Both lovely phones, but only one winner when all aspects are taken into account. Put it this way, now the development limitations of the Exynos are becoming more and more clear, I would put good money on there being a lot more I9500 owners out there who would swap their device for an I9505 right now than vice-versa. Or at least if they're honest with themselves.
But the first reply is correct, there are already numerous threads on this subject.
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im one of those, i have the octa because its the one being sold in my region but i would love to have the quad version
i still love my s4 anyways, best phone ever but the development drought kinda sucks
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im one of those, i have the octa because its the one being sold in my region but i would love to have the quad version
i still love my s4 anyways, best phone ever but the development drought kinda sucks
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because its the one being sold in my region
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Lol, you do know there's a thing called importing, yeah?
Hi guys and gals I'm currently want to upgrade my S2 (finally) to either a S3 or S4, reason why I'm still considering the S3 is that I haven't really heard anything bad about them. But for the S4 however..... things like, camera failing, sim card failure etc... But I'm an android developer so the main reason why im getting it in the first place is to have a big screen and a higher end processor since I've already got a S2 for a sort of low end kind of thing.
So if you dont mind giving me your thoughts on both products
and I do intend on getting extended warranty just because of the issues lol
I've never heard of camera or sim card failure
I went from the s2 to the s4 and don't regret it. Just make sure you know which version to get as there is quite a few
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I've never heard of camera or sim card failure
I went from the s2 to the s4 and don't regret it. Just make sure you know which version to get as there is quite a few
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Sim card thing is a bit rare I guess if you cut out a piece of paper and slide in with it, it will fix it lol if not then its the connectors inside. Camera problem is common it black screens when you open it and their is another thing but cant recall. What do you mean versions? Build versions? or model version? if its model is their model's I should avoid?
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Sim card thing is a bit rare I guess if you cut out a piece of paper and slide in with it, it will fix it lol if not then its the connectors inside. Camera problem is common it black screens when you open it and their is another thing but cant recall. What do you mean versions? Build versions? or model version? if its model is their model's I should avoid?
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there are mainly 3 models of s4.. 9505 ( quad core) 9500 ( exinos octacore) and the GE (google experiance) but i would consider more an s3... i had it and it's almoust the same... except for ram... you will not have any problem with knox eccc....
if you want an s4 buy the quad core lte version.... the 9505
of course is only my opinion
Actually the galaxy s3 will receive knox in future updates , if I were you I would stick with the s2 it was the best phone ever made by Samsung .
If you really want to upgrade, I think it’s better to wait a little bit longer , as the galaxy s5 should be released in January according to Samsung , also consider getting a nexus 5 , it’s priced around 350 and it should come with a faster processor .
Good luck
I went from the S3 to the S4 and found it to be noticeably smoother, has a much better battery, and the extra ram is also a big plus.
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difyel said:
Actually the galaxy s3 will receive knox in future updates , if I were you I would stick with the s2 it was the best phone ever made by Samsung .
If you really want to upgrade, I think it’s better to wait a little bit longer , as the galaxy s5 should be released in January according to Samsung , also consider getting a nexus 5 , it’s priced around 350 and it should come with a faster processor .
Good luck
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really?? s3 has the knox counter built in it??
i thought it was only in more recent models!!
it's a shame.. i sold the s2 and keept s3... grrrrrrr
difyel said:
Actually the galaxy s3 will receive knox in future updates , if I were you I would stick with the s2 it was the best phone ever made by Samsung .
If you really want to upgrade, I think it’s better to wait a little bit longer , as the galaxy s5 should be released in January according to Samsung , also consider getting a nexus 5 , it’s priced around 350 and it should come with a faster processor .
Good luck
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I am keeping the S2, that phone is so well built, when i was doing truck tyres I'd smack it around etc (not on purpose) and not a crack or signs of damage. I'm not too fussed about the S5 I'd never get anything on release as their will be likely problems with it... just look at GTA 5 lol...
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there are mainly 3 models of s4.. 9505 ( quad core) 9500 ( exinos octacore) and the GE (google experiance) but i would consider more an s3... i had it and it's almoust the same... except for ram... you will not have any problem with knox eccc....
if you want an s4 buy the quad core lte version.... the 9505
of course is only my opinion
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Yeah I was doing a bit of research on them today, played around with my mates S3 their both wonderful devices but S3 is pretty good apart from how the screen is weak as an iphones screen lol.
Anyway I've decided to go with the S4, and have ordered one
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I am keeping the S2, that phone is so well built, when i was doing truck tyres I'd smack it around etc (not on purpose) and not a crack or signs of damage. I'm not too fussed about the S5 I'd never get anything on release as their will be likely problems with it... just look at GTA 5 lol...
Yeah I was doing a bit of research on them today, played around with my mates S3 their both wonderful devices but S3 is pretty good apart from how the screen is weak as an iphones screen lol.
Anyway I've decided to go with the S4, and have ordered one
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Anyway it' s a good choice