Related
http://sammyhub.com/2012/10/11/ntt-...y-note-ii-and-improved-galaxy-s-iii-in-japan/
They really like screwing with us early adopters :-\
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Thats gonna suck big time....1.6ghz quad core processor and the same 2100mah battery....i feel sorry for anyone buying that. I'll stick to the device that makes sense 1.4ghz quad core, no 4g or any of that crap and decent battery life thanks
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What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
samydroid said:
What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
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It's not overclocked. the 1.6ghz one is revision 2.0 while we have revision 1.1. That 1.6 is their base clock speed afaik, meaning they can overclock to even higher than our max of 1.8ghz. (I might be wrong though)
EDIT: Maybe one month after it's released in japan, they'll make i9310 (with 1.6ghz 2gb ram) And after another 3 months, they'll make i9315 (1.6ghz 2gb with mali t604).
What would you expect ? Samsung is known for making a big*** amount of variants for their flagships,just check the number of variants for the S2..Some of them got HD screens.
It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
It is the SAME CPU, SAME internals, it is OVERCLOCKED, nothing special.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
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Agreed, Just because something new comes out it doesn't mean the original is useless.
If you are going to buy a top spec mobile phone then you need to realise it's outdated the moment you take it home. You buy the best you can, with the money you have, at the time you need/want to buy it.
or you can sit back and wait for the latest and fastest device and end up waiting for ever as the next one will always be better.
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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Ill be able to duplicate this Variant soon .. all i need to do is overclock my I9305 by 200Mhz and BAM all of a sudden i have exaclty the same device. All the hardware is the same
Forget this one but i9305 was really a "in your face! early adopters" by Samsung!
i wouldn't even bother with the japanese variant. launcher looks horrendous. not to mention its just a minute upgrade
Software rules the roost with phones now, most phones are capable of doing similar things and only software seperates them from the pack.
I will be happy with my SIII for a long time to come i believe especially with the development community.
Would you be happy with your SIII if you'd never read about this new revision? I think so.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
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Youre absolutly right...phone makers only cares for money, nothing else
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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By fail I meant failure to provide proper support for exynos by a month or two, and not failure as a smartphone manufacturer. I'm well aware that they hold a huge chunk of the world's mobile phone market. Exynos 5250 is a beast there's no denying that. Don't get me wrong. I love the exynos chipsets. They performs better than any other chipset of its equivalent generation. It's just the lack of support that's getting me. I miss using smooth n properly optimized aosp/aokp roms. The one's there are available now are nowhere near to the nexus in terms of smoothness despite having a hardware that's more than twice as much powerful.
Not bashing samsung. In-fact I used to be hardcore HTC. But the main reason [or atleast 75%] why I switched to samsung is for the exynos chipset. I'm really hoping they provide proper support for it soon.
Yeah when they don't provide the documentation I understand why you're mad, I am too. I would like a fully buttery AOSP/AOKP ROM
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in 5 months, there will be news of S4 so this S3 with 2gb ram and 1.6ghz will be old..
Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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i will be selling N4 for S4 need LTE
Won't sell my Nexus 4 until I get my Nexus 5
I had an S3, and I've not totally given up on Samsung after all the fuss over sources for developers etc, not what I like to see. Very happy still with my Nexus 4, nothing to make me consider an 'upgrade' (and I normally always demand the latest and greatest).
As for your first question, it's really entirely down to opinion. If you don't want any of the newer hardware on the GS4 (i.e. 1080p screen, octa-core processor, 13MP camera etc.) then don't bother. I personally don't see it as worth it at all. I would never be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p screens, I can't conceive of any task in the foreseeable future which the S4 Pro won't be able to handle, I don't use my camera too much and I don't need the expandable storage. Your opinion may well differ, and at the end of the day you definitely won't be able to get a definitive answer to this as it's all down to opinion.
As for the second question, there's already a thread in the Q&A about this (in which the vast majority of people answered no).
The only way id sell my n4 is to maybe get a n5. The s4 didnt really impress me an all of its new features seem gimmicky
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Yes.
Why, so someone that wants and will enjoy the n4 will get it, and then you can get and use what you want as well..
I'm thinking I'll eventually sell mine to get an xphone, maybe.. For the meanwhile I'm enjoying it
hopefully n5 will be better so no..who the hell likes touchwiz anyways
All these new phones could make your tea and replace your loved one in the bedroom for all i care they are all more than double the price so they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
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Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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That's like saying should I trade my playboy playmate girlfriend for some fat ugly chic? If that's what you're into then go for it.
Just remember your N4 will get the next version of Android and the features that will bring, your S4? Well you may have to wait a while to get version 5 of Android! Sure the S4 may have better specs but software is just as important as hardware!
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*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
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1. Battery has been great for me, better than sensation and mt4g.
2. Can be done with apps, I tuned mine based off of an oled, love the screen now
3. It does, users are using lte now
4. This was known prior to release
5. Also previously known prior to release
Expandable storage would make nexus an unfair competing device, Google must still cooperate with other manufacturers...
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personally i think that the SGS4 is a great phone BUT I don't see any reason for us (the moderate users) to take a leap for it and thats why:
the nexus 4 is amazingly fast, battery is just fine and if u need more than that get a portable charger, PURE android and fast updates so u don't get tied to the manufacturer's good will, I don't like the Super AMOLED display to my eyes the colors are too saturated but that doesnt mean they are not good.
i've bought the nexus after having 4 HTC devices and i must say pure android device is an another league, the custom UI is just slowing it down.
and so about the Exynos 5 Octa
this is NOT a real Octa core. this processor packs tow quad cores
4-cortex A7 @1.6ghz for power 'saving'
4-cortex A15 @ 1.2ghz for performance.
i dont believe in this concept but maybe it's just me.....
so i dont see reason to buy the sgs4 while u can enjoy the nexus 4.
just my opinion.....
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I'm more tempted to the HTC One but Nexus 5 rumors are 1337
Never ever !
I had the S3 before, i gave it to my son and enjoy the N4 now.
I love bug-free custom ROMs, you will never have this on a Samsung product.
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-wont-develop-for-the-galaxy-s4/
Just further confirmation that the development landscape for the s4 will be very barren
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*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
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- Go ahead and try different roms an kernels, you can double your screen on time with the right combination.
- Go ahead and try different kernels, as an example, the recomended values that comes with franco will blow your mind away.
- Well you have a point there, me personally don't need that LTE speed.
4,5 - Well, I don't really understand why people needs more than 16gb in a phone, is your phone a cinema theater or something that has tons of movies to store or what?
First nexus phone for me after an S2 and an S3. I'm never moving to any other device unless it's the next nexus. Nuff said.
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http://mblog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-wont-develop-for-the-galaxy-s4/
Just further confirmation that the development landscape for the s4 will be very barren
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The CM team debunked that.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/7jywLJdswki
Setting Device Expectations
Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.
This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.
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I should add that whether you sell your Nexus 4 to buy an S4 is completely up to you. That is an extremely personal decision, and only the OP can decide that. Anything else is just everyone else's personal opinion, and is usually going to go between people who actually use and love the Nexus 4 (or Nexus in general), and those who don't but post here anyway. Being as this is the Nexus 4 board, I would think the question is most likely going to be slanted in one direction.
Guys im in the middle of upgrading my trusty Note 2 (a friend needed a new phone, so he offered me a good price for my N2).
Lately i didnt used the Spen alot, basically never, so ive come to realize that probably i will not miss it, not the bigger screen.
Ive played a bit with the official model here in italy, which is the Snapdragon version, and since i can get the Octa from uk at the same price, i was wondering what i have to choose.
My needs are:
- Im a junior coder, currently working on a few emulators for myself. As many knows, emulators need cpu power, raw processing, more than gpu. Note 2 was awesome once clocked to 1.8 (thanks AndreiLux for your awesome Perseus!).
Snapdragon sure its fast, but i feel its not the speed bump i excpected from the Exynos 4 (i know its still faster, but if you get what i mean).
Im positive that the Octa is what it suits my needs...but this drives me to the second question:
- is overheating that bad, to the point the phone engages a thermal throttling? Or it just becomes hot, but retains the same performance? Does the Octa suffer from the same overheating issues that Snapdragon has?
- Battery will not be like the note 2, i know that, but since i work 12 hours a day and most of the times my phone sits untouched in my personal cabinet i doubt it will create a problem...
If someone can help me deciding i appreciate that. Im aware that Note 3 will come out in next months, but problem is that i need a phone now, cant really wait.
Thanks to all!
As you can imagine there have already been numerous threads on this very subject, do we really need another?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210468
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Pagnell said:
As you can imagine there have already been numerous threads on this very subject, do we really need another?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210468
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Oh i see thanks, i thought my questions were a bit more specific. Actually im looking forward to some user experiences similar to my needs. I guess i will read the thread a bit more.
Apologies, I didn't mean to sound harsh but there have been quite a few of these threads. That one probably had answers to all your questions in it if you have a quick read through.
For what it's worth, when you look at the advantages and disadvantages of each handset, I don't believe it's worth the reduction in support you will have after having to import the I9500. As I have said already in other threads, any performance gains you will get from the Exynos model will not be noticeable in real world terms.
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Apologies, I didn't mean to sound harsh but there have been quite a few of these threads. That one probably had answers to all your questions in it if you have a quick read through.
For what it's worth, when you look at the advantages and disadvantages of each handset, I don't believe it's worth the reduction in support you will have after having to import the I9500. As I have said already in other threads, any performance gains you will get from the Exynos model will not be noticeable in real world terms.
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No need mate, i understand thanks for your input thought.
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Hello guys...I know this thread has come up tens of times but after reading every single one I havent reach to a conclusion and this becomes very frustrating;/ [want to mention that I was an iPhone user from the first day. This is my first time with Android...wanted to give it a try cause I was sick of iPhones small screen]
So i have ordered the case and the memory card .. but yet I have chosen which phone to buy.
In my country I have the choice between the 2. Basically only one store in the whole country sells the "OCTA" version.
So let me tell you how I am going to use my device and please advise accordingly.
1. Facebook
2. Browsing
3. Music
4. GPS
5. Some normal gaming (Not Hardcore)
I want to use my device for long term 2+. I dont want in one year to experience lag because of a newer firmware etc etc. You got the point right?
Also my country does not support LTE. I am not using 3g because is SO SLOW and expensive...
I have read many Pros and Cons. For example:
i9500 - does not support OpenGL ES 3.0 + Not so good Battery Life + Not so much developer support + in a lot cases overheating
i9505 - Audio issues (crackling) + not so good audio and camera chip somthing like that...
Anws I think you got the point. Any suggestions will highly appreciated from both users (i9500 + i9505)
Thanks a lot!
no one? I know guys that this has been answered hundred of times but come on help one new android user
I would suggest i9505. I'm not a fan of samsung phones because were using lately most of the time nexus devices. And I can tell you if you want a stability of an iphone(not trolling ) and all the goodies from android go with 9505 put the Google version of Android on this phone and you'll be good to go.
First thing when I heard that this Samsung will be available with vanilla android I went to the shop and bought it.
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I would suggest i9505. I'm not a fan of samsung phones because were using lately most of the time nexus devices. And I can tell you if you want a stability of an iphone(not trolling ) and all the goodies from android go with 9505 put the Google version of Android on this phone and you'll be good to go.
First thing when I heard that this Samsung will be available with vanilla android I went to the shop and bought it.
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As I am new to this world I dont have a clue about rooting...google version...etc etc but thanks for the info anws!
You'll be ok just go with 9505 version then read about on this forum and you'll be good
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any other suggestions guys??? thanks!
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no one? I know guys that this has been answered hundred of times but come on help one new android user
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Hi mate,
I also changed to the S4 for the same reasons (previously had iphone). At the time I actually wanted to get the i9500 but they hadn't hit the shelves yet. So I ended up with the i9505.
I find it a bit confusing that your country doesn't support 4G and you aren't going to have 3G. So you won't have mobile data? But perhaps you plan to use the internet over wifi? Maybe I didn't read your original post properly.
Anyway
If I was you I would buy the i9505 (which is what I have). Primarily because there seem to be less issues and the performance isn't *that* much worse than the i9500. I use my phone for exactly what you have listed and its been great.
Now that i've got the i9505 i've never looked back
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Hi mate,
I also changed to the S4 for the same reasons (previously had iphone). At the time I actually wanted to get the i9500 but they hadn't hit the shelves yet. So I ended up with the i9505.
I find it a bit confusing that your country doesn't support 4G and you aren't going to have 3G. So you won't have mobile data? But perhaps you plan to use the internet over wifi? Maybe I didn't read your original post properly.
Anyway
If I was you I would buy the i9505 (which is what I have). Primarily because there seem to be less issues and the performance isn't *that* much worse than the i9500. I use my phone for exactly what you have listed and its been great.
Now that i've got the i9505 i've never looked back
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Thanks for your info mate... Basically in my country 3G mobile data is expensive and SLOW... so I prefer using WIFI...
Thanks again!
Man, take 9505 for sure. Audio is very good and camera is the best I've ever seen in my life. Photos are sharp and beautiful, no pink spots (as there were on GS2), video is superb. Shutter speed could be something better but taking photo in about half of a second will suffice and I'm sure Samsung will improve it even further. CPU is just insane. It's so powerfull that even in few years it'll still overrank most phones (as GS2 does now).
Go to sammobile.com and look in how many countries 9505 is available comparing to 9500. Also Google have choosen 9505 - that means something - why not Exynos or Exynos with LTE. Look like Exynos version is best for benchmarks and Qualcomm best to use. I would definitely not exchange my 9505 for any other device available today as it meets all my needs and prove to be the very best phone I've ever have. There are some theoretical cons as shutter speed but from I can say - if You don't read about them You will not notice them Interface lags were eliminated with MEA rom. Check if it's already available for You region. This is obvious that there will be much more issues described with 9505 on forums as great majority of GS4s are 9505.
The only problem with buying any Galaxy S device is that You cannot check the screen before buy as it's covered with black foil. My GS2 had some visible flaws on it. I got used to them as many ppl said that it's very common. Luckily my GS4 screen is almost perfect with just some markings characteristic to amoled.
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Man, take 9505 for sure. Audio is very good and camera is the best I've ever seen in my life. Photos are sharp and beautiful, no pink spots (as there were on GS2), video is superb. Shutter speed could be something better but taking photo in about half of a second will suffice and I'm sure Samsung will improve it even further. CPU is just insane. It's so powerfull that even in few years it'll still overrank most phones (as GS2 does now).
Go to sammobile.com and look in how many countries 9505 is available comparing to 9500. Also Google have choosen 9505 - that means something - why not Exynos or Exynos with LTE. Look like Exynos version is best for benchmarks and Qualcomm best to use. I would definitely not exchange my 9505 for any other device available today as it meets all my needs and prove to be the very best phone I've ever have. There are some theoretical cons as shutter speed but from I can say - if You don't read about them You will not notice them Interface lags were eliminated with MEA rom. Check if it's already available for You region.
The only problem with buying any Galaxy S device is that You cannot check the screen before buy as it's covered with black foil. My GS2 had some visible flaws on it. I got used to them as many ppl said that it's very common. Luckily my GS4 screen is almost perfect with just some markings characteristic to amoled.
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Thanks for your reply also... until now only i9505 answered back to this thread... lets see if any i9500 will give me his own opinion...
With new updates 9500 never heats up, im happy with battery life, not even one issue is on my phone. We have both here in my country, and i chosed the octa version. I know we have less support by devs but personally i don use stock android, i hope it will be for people who like aosp roms. But for me 9500 is really beast.
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With new updates 9500 never heats up, im happy with battery life, not even one issue is on my phone. We have both here in my country, and i chosed the octa version. I know we have less support by devs but personally i don use stock android, i hope it will be for people who like aosp roms. But for me 9500 is really beast.
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thanks mate!! need more info though
any other suggestions guys? Thanks a lot!
Mate, people who own an i9500 will tell you to buy an i9500, and people who own an i9505 will tell you to buy an i9505. They will both list what it does well, what it doesn't do so well, and what has been fixed and so on. Ultimately, the only person you should be listening to is yourself. If you want LTE and more developer support, go for the i9505. If you want 8 cores to boast about, and perhaps a tiny bit faster processing, go for the i9500. Both phones are identical for what you get (excluding what's under the hood) and if you are only going to be using the phone like an average person, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the i9505, and no reason for you to have that extra processing power (not that the i9505 can't handle it anyway). Anyway what I'm saying is, the choice is yours, and letting other people tell you what to buy is a bad thing, the information is there about both phones, you must study this carefully, understand all, and then make your decision.
And just to clarify, my camera performs perfectly, and this is with my phone being on an older firmware as my carrier is useless at pushing updates. Also, the audio quality is great on my i9505, I use Beyerdynamics in-ear headphones, and there is no problem with them whatsoever. I guess the problems people suffer from their phones are luck of the draw, and I must be one of the lucky ones. If you have any problems, return the phone within the 2 weeks most carriers allow you.
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Mate, people who own an i9500 will tell you to buy an i9500, and people who own an i9505 will tell you to buy an i9505. They will both list what it does well, what it doesn't do so well, and what has been fixed and so on. Ultimately, the only person you should be listening to is yourself. If you want LTE and more developer support, go for the i9505. If you want 8 cores to boast about, and perhaps a tiny bit faster processing, go for the i9500. Both phones are identical for what you get (excluding what's under the hood) and if you are only going to be using the phone like an average person, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the i9505, and no reason for you to have that extra processing power (not that the i9505 can't handle it anyway). Anyway what I'm saying is, the choice is yours, and letting other people tell you what to buy is a bad thing, the information is there about both phones, you must study this carefully, understand all, and then make your decision.
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Noted. thanks!
No big difference in performance.
But i9505 have better developer support. My modest guess is that i9500 owners have to wait some time (or ever?) to get same support that i9505 will have.
BTW I don't want to use LTE/4G because of big battery drain. Sometimes I even turn off 3G and that makes a HUGE difference compared to 2G.
Mittaa said:
No big difference in performance.
But i9505 have better developer support. My modest guess is that i9500 owners have to wait some time (or ever?) to get same support that i9505 will have.
BTW I don't want to use LTE/4G because of big battery drain. Sometimes I even turn off 3G and that makes a HUGE difference compared to 2G.
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That is true..also I will nener use 4G or 3G only WIFI.
Thanks
I had hard time choosing between the 2 but i choosed 9500 because the camera is a bit better and better music playback because of the Wolfson DAC.
I have no regrets, i love it, im using XXUBMF8 firmware.
0mega007 said:
I had hard time choosing between the 2 but i choosed 9500 because the camera is a bit better and better music playback because of the Wolfson DAC.
I have no regrets, i love it, im using XXUBMF8 firmware.
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I am feeling the same way .... hard time choosing... it s.ck.s
Unless camera is your top priority just go with i9505. It has better battery life, more developer support, better support in games.
I won't say that I am not satisfied with my i9500 but its not worth paying any premium compared to i9505.
Right now and most probably in the future, the i9500 is not utilizing its 8 cores. Not even does well with battery life compared to i9505.
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Well guys I used to have Gnex...there we had nightlies,mods,ports,milestones,kernels and latest google updates...life was so fun..I became flashaholic...and then I bought gt-i9500...thought it will have a great developer supoort and if not nightlies I'll have good number of interesting roms to flash.but I was realky realky disappointed when I see 6 roms only . I'm not saying that these rons are not good..no way...all of them are great and stable...but when I see s3 forum and htc one forum or even gt-i9505 forum I realky regret buying this phone.who else does??
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It's all because of Samsung...I mean come on guys...u create a chipset and you're not sure about its effectiveness or whateva the reason is that you declare 9505 the "international" version??it has never happened in the past.samsung is surely losing grounds or at least surely is nervous by htc one and the xperia coming one after another that you create exynos then u say no we'll put snapdragon thing in the other model and then again u say no let's have a snapdragon 800..and then u put a bulky camera in it and call it zoom and then u put tight screws in it and call it the Active...one is so much cinfused in all this GALAXY that I start thinking s4 is a GALAXY within already congested galaxy.
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well, just to throw another opinion out there...i chose the s4 because i was looking forward to a phone that will just work straight out of the box, stock rom, without having to try custom firmware and roms just to get any sort of use out of the thing. other android phones i've used have awful battery life and all sorts of system instabilities and bugs. it's nice to finally have a phone that just works, does what it's supposed to do and i don't have to worry about switching off all the smart features because of battery life. only thing i'm waiting for now is the a2sd update so i can free a little more mem for apps. but with 64gb sd card, i have loads of room for music and videos. definitely the best stock rom/device i've had so far.
That is quite well said bro..this device is a beast in itself..but everybody has different expectations and differebt priorities. At least samsung should have overhauled the UI..
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im dissappointed because s4 has no hdr video, there is weird lag in shutter sound, and i dont understand why they couldn put a 3100mAh battery, there is a plenty of space in such big phone :/
Not really disappoi but the predictive text acts like it's drunk all the time
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Disappointed by stuttering in some games, which really should be flying. (granny smith, rr3...)
This might be shallow for some but I'm disappointed cause you can't have lockscreen widgets on stock firmware
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Well first of all, GNex was Nexus. It makes it a lot easier if devs are working on Nexus. Also GNex was a lot cheaper and this led to more users. Generally if there are more users, the development blooms. You can't really compare your i9500 or even i9505 against the development of any Nexus phone.
S3 has been out for a lot longer than S4 and now you are really comparing these two's development?
HTC One and i9505 have more developments going on because simply they have more users and also AOSP devs have more experiences with Snapdragon from phones like Nexus 4.
I don't know how you bought i9500 but I'm going to assume that you bought it off-contract for like $700. Very small amount of people would actually go this route instead of just paying $200 with contract.
I should buy s3... Is the same..
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conics said:
This might be shallow for some but I'm disappointed cause you can't have lockscreen widgets on stock firmware
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?? I guess u were trying to say something else..
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deaffob said:
Well first of all, GNex was Nexus. It makes it a lot easier if devs are working on Nexus. Also GNex was a lot cheaper and this led to more users. Generally if there are more users, the development blooms. You can't really compare your i9500 or even i9505 against the development of any Nexus phone.
S3 has been out for a lot longer than S4 and now you are really comparing these two's development?
HTC One and i9505 have more developments going on because simply they have more users and also AOSP devs have more experiences with Snapdragon from phones like Nexus 4.
I don't know how you bought i9500 but I'm going to assume that you bought it off-contract for like $700. Very small amount of people would actually go this route instead of just paying $200 with contract.
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Agree with evrything except..s4 or s3 or s2(mayb evn s1) sold more than any nexus phone..so no,,none of the nexus devices hs more users than any of the mentioned phones..
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?? I guess u were trying to say something else..
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Agree with evrything except..s4 or s3 or s2(mayb evn s1) sold more than any nexus phone..so no,,none of the nexus devices hs more users than any of the mentioned phones..
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Nexus always had source and the last couple of nexii may very very have sold more than the i9500. A lot less people own them compared to i9505 and many Devs have shied away from phones with no source.
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I have a Gnexus and a N4 at home at the moment. I gave them to gf and kids.
Am I disappointed of my 9500? Not at all, everything is better than my old N4 from screen to battery life.
Yea i have less rom to flash, but I don't care, I have one without bloatware that's running great, fast.
Here they're selling the 9505, so I imported my GT-I9500, paid 150$ more than what 9505 would've cost me. And I would redo it tomorrow without hesitation if I needed to.
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i love my S4, only dissapointment would be the purple tint i get at low brightness and maybe the touchwiz ui crappy looks besides that my 9500 is a monster
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I was also using a GNex befor i bought my 9500.. i got bored of aosp.. so bought a touchwiz device.. but now i miss aosp so much..
But thanks to vertumus, his themes looks awesome like the good old aosps
Hope aosp or atlease cm releases soon..
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With all of Samsung`s latest android tablet`s having stereo front facing speakers, i think they dropped the ball, Letting HTC get the first stereo phone, i would have bought the S4 instead of the One if they had.
John.
I just switched from the 9500 to the htc one a few days ago.
I had a note 1. I enjoyed it for a few years. I wanted an updated experience that felt fresh and snappy and provided something slightly different. The s4 just did not do this for me.
Is it a good phone? absolutely.
But for me it didnt do anything i was left wanting.
The htc one has provided me with what i was looking for. Absolutely blazing UI theres no stutter or lag in any form or in any function. An enhanced sound experience vis a vis the boomsound speakers.
Zoe. - its fun
Premium finish - seriously its just so superbly crafted.
I think what most S4 I9500 user longing for was an absolute support from Samsung. An update that would really fix issues. Devs could only do as much. Fws came flying out from Samsung lab that does nothing.
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why do you need more custom roms, kernels, mods to consider it a good device?
the i9500 has fewer roms, kernels but those developments are unique that you cant find it in the i9505 dev's threads. especially the Persues Kernel from Andrei, the screen/sound mods are the true original works that others dont have. and i have seen users from 9505 going to Persues's/Wanam's Thread asking to port their mods to i9505 just because they dont have those unique features even they have more roms/kernels.
i upgraded from n2 to s4 because i know Andrei, Wanam, Indie are there. and their qualities are more than enough to convince me. i am lucky that i dont have to import i9500, my country is selling it
My s4 is a monster !!!
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