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Dear XDA,
What is the actual reason for SGS IV (and many other phones) having different processors in the US version vs international versions? I'm kind of ashamed to have to ask this but I have never actually seen the reason written down anywhere.
It seems it would be very expensive to build/support different hardware versions in the "same" phone. I know there are different radio technologies but that doesn't seem like it would require a change in processor. Please let me know what you know.
Signed Curious
There isn't any confirmation we are not sure only speculating ATM
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194894
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8 cores + LTE = battery life of about 2 hours on stand by (not official! But you get the point).
Snapdragon is much better by the way, especially in terms of development.
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This is the second thread you have trolled on and talked about dev support when the OP never mentioned that your post is even more irrelevant as this post he is asking why there are two versions I have no idea how dev support came up but either way
Read this and educate yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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This is the second thread you have trolled on and talked about dev support when the OP never mentioned that your post is even more irrelevant as this post he is asking why there are two versions I have no idea how dev support came up but either way
Read this and educate yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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Ting,
Though the Octa core marketing didnt catch my attention, i would much prefer the international model processor due to the PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU compare to a last year Adreno 320 GPU.
What confuse me is that Samsung had shipped their Galaxy Note 2 variants with Exynos processor in the US but why cant the Galaxy S 4 ?
souleater11 said:
Ting,
Though the Octa core marketing didnt catch my attention, i would much prefer the international model processor due to the PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU compare to a last year Adreno 320 GPU.
What confuse me is that Samsung had shipped their Galaxy Note 2 variants with Exynos processor in the US but why cant the Galaxy S 4 ?
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that's the reason I would much more prefer the octa :/
but http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/19/samsung-beats-all-android-smartphones-in-new-benchmark-test/
they said it's only coming out in a couple of countries??? I sure hope that's wrong...
souleater11 said:
Ting,
Though the Octa core marketing didnt catch my attention, i would much prefer the international model processor due to the PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU compare to a last year Adreno 320 GPU.
What confuse me is that Samsung had shipped their Galaxy Note 2 variants with Exynos processor in the US but why cant the Galaxy S 4 ?
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Last time with the s3 situation they were having problems getting lte Woking on an Exynos processor they solved in the note 2 this time the problem could have sprung up again as this isn't a traditional processor or it could be supply issues
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You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg
Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
dafabsl said:
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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recklesslife85 said:
The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.
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Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.
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I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?
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Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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Many of us are probably getting the Snapdragon version. Easier to develop plus many devices are using it.
dafabsl said:
I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?
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No that's snapdragon
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No that's snapdragon
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daaaamn..
this german site here http://www.cnet.de/88108212/samsung-galaxy-s4-exynos-octa-5-kommt-nach-deutschland/
said the i9505 would be the one with octa :/
I really hoped that, because i won't use lte and in Austria we almost don't use lte and lte is really expensive, and I read that the Octa processor will be better for battery life
I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...
dafabsl said:
Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...
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The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/
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hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/
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Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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TingTingin said:
Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.
Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.
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But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..
dafabsl said:
But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..
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this is how it looks to me ...
look at the previous galaxy and note series.. the non-lte version is available in almost all countries.. hence has the most dev support..
but in s4's case., since they cant mass produce exynos octa YET., they decided to use snapdragon even in countries outside the u.s... that's the only way to make s4 available to all countries..
they wanted to be the first to use octa chip?.. they sure am now.. but why rush releasing it when they cant give all people this octa feature they boast about?.. that's because they dont want xperia z and htc one to have all the spotlight..
and the result is what OP is asking now..
since the u.s. and most european countries will have I9505., the logical answer is the snapdragon will have more dev support.. and even have the higher chance to have cm..
Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?
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Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo
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Why wouldn't there be a CM for the sgs4?
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Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
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From your comment one would assume u know what your talking about it seems u have been misled
Octa is better on battery life I'm really not going to explain this again it is also more powerful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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Great thread and very good question OP. Right now, it looks like the snapdragon version will be the most dev friendly since it'll be the one sold in big markets ( US, UK, Germany....). I wish that the exynos 5 octa had LTE included. The note 2 had the same processor everywhere in the world and that was great.
luck of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5? will it happen soon or it will be the same as s3?
darixtorento said:
luck of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5? will it happen soon or it will be the same as s3?
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Well im too afraid of that my friend there are many waiting here for the same
Samsung is not releasing the code may be coz there are certain features which can be ported to other phones etc which they dont want any one to use it
The Arndale Octa will release in July.
AndreiLux said:
The Arndale Octa will release in July.
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is that the source code that everyone is waiting for?
AndreiLux said:
The Arndale Octa will release in July.
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That's great news..
the arndale octa which will be released in july is that the source code that everyone is waiting for?
darixtorento said:
the arndale octa which will be released in july is that the source code that everyone is waiting for?
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darixtorento said:
is that the source code that everyone is waiting for?
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Here is ur answer
http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
One of the specs is: Cache Coherent Interface (CCI) among Cortex-A15 and Cortex-A7, G2D, and SSS
Damn it! :banghead:
¡¡So say we all!! from Battlestar GT-I9500
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Here is ur answer
http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
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actually ive already seen this but since im not a developer and not familiar with this, I can not assume anything..
sorry for lack of knowledge and maybe a even stupid question..
but by releasing the Arndale Octa Exynos 5410 Development Board, it means ALL the source code needed now will be available?
the S3 exynos doesnt have anything like this?
Don't expect anything positive. You should have got an i9505 instead.
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Don't expect anything positive. You should have got an i9505 instead.
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why not? so can you please explain me whats the meaning of the "The Arndale Octa " release? its not gonna solve the problem?
darixtorento said:
why not? so can you please explain me whats the meaning of the "The Arndale Octa " release? its not gonna solve the problem?
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It's the case of the S3 all over. Promised source code, only crap arrives. Half-assed useless good-for-nothing crap.
I think I also read somewhere that @AndreiLux said that the big.LITTLE technology in the exynos octa wasn't even working it should and it might be a hardware issue. Not sure where I read it or if it even was that, though.
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It's the case of the S3 all over. Promised source code, only crap arrives. Half-assed useless good-for-nothing crap.
I think I also read somewhere that @AndreiLux said that the big.LITTLE technology in the exynos octa wasn't even working it should and it might be a hardware issue. Not sure where I read it or if it even was that, though.
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you are still not answering my question..
then what is Arndale Octa which will be released what will it bring?
darixtorento said:
you are still not answering my question..
then what is Arndale Octa which will be released what will it bring?
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Hardly anything useful. I think it'll bring borked half-asses crap. That's your answer right there.
Theshawty said:
Hardly anything useful. I think it'll bring borked half-asses crap. That's your answer right there.
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I think you actually dont know what is arndale octa. It is a similar processor to exynos octa but not under exynos which is the base of all closed source and documentation. So it will be open source not completely but somewhat helpful to the developers.
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I think you actually dont know what is arndale octa. It is a similar processor to exynos octa but not under exynos which is the base of all closed source and documentation. So it will be open source not completely but somewhat helpful to the developers.
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Yeah, just as helpful as origenboard was for exynos 4 - not at all!
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I think you actually dont know what is arndale octa. It is a similar processor to exynos octa but not under exynos which is the base of all closed source and documentation. So it will be open source not completely but somewhat helpful to the developers.
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Yeah, just as helpful as origenboard was for exynos 4 - not at all!
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Yea but all we (I9500 users ) can do is just cross our fingers and hope for the best.
there are any news???
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?????
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Nope. Don't expect anything jaw-dropping either.
any news now?
1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do
darixtorento said:
1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do
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1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3
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1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3
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thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?
So does that mean we are not going to see AOKP on i9500 soon. I love AOKPs and am cursing myself for not buying the i9505 as it was available. Smartphone is no joy without AOKP.
darixtorento said:
thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?
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this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
jj9922 said:
this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
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this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?
darixtorento said:
this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?
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yes but it should give you an idea about it
We all miss AOKP!
Hello guys, an Android / xda developers n00b here...
The Octo Core GT-I9500 was the only choice here since it's the only S4 model shipped in my country so I'm a bit frustrated too about the AOKP thing - which I learned it may well be the next big thing after CyanogenMOD itself.
I'm about to flash Arrow ROM right now which seems pretty interesting and also will give Omega ROM a try, while we can't put our dirty hands on AOKP we surely have two really nice mods to play with
As such, I'm all years about your experiences - if any - with any of these two ROMs.
Cheers
so no aokp coming soon?
even GS3 got aopk faster
Comon people please help
Comon i need answersssss
Comon what goes on there are any news?
Where is aopk for s4
what goes on
learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..
gdonanthony said:
learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..
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i did, and found nothing
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i did, and found nothing
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If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Gillion said:
If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Or what is more or less the same thing: it will not get faster no matter how much you stand still looking at it!
(and, btw, this is just what's happening to me reloading the site every 5' min awaiting for the imminent release of Arrow ROM 4.0, lol!)
In general thread of i9500 and i9505 a thread exist s about cm development for i9500 some good info there!
Which CPU does the Note 3 use? Please enlighten me
MSM8974 or MSM8974AB?
MSM8974: Adreno 330 @ 450Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 800Mhz
MSM8974AB: Adreno 330 @ 550Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 933Mhz
Most likely the 8974, only the meizu mx3 will have the AB version check anandtech.com that'll have all the info on the Soc. It does however have a low power radio which should save battery.
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That's an interesting question. If there's a "better" S-800 it would be odd that with Samsung's purchasing power with Qualcomm that they wouldn't use it in their flagship and allow a Chinese upstart to tout a more powerful phone. The S-600 Samsung used in the SGS4 was "AB" so let's hope the S-800 in the N3 is also. We'll find out when Anandtech does their testing. This is from their review of the SGS4...
That brings us to the Galaxy S 4. It's immediately apparent that something is different here because Samsung is shipping the Snapdragon 600 at a higher frequency than any other OEM. The Krait 300 cores in SGS4 can run at up to 1.9GHz vs. 1.7GHz for everyone else. Curiously enough, 1.9GHz is the max frequency that Qualcomm mentioned when it first announced Snapdragon 600.
Samsung is obviously a very large customer, so at first glance we assumed it could simply demand a better bin of Snapdragon 600 than its lower volume competitors. Looking a bit deeper however, we see that the Galaxy S 4 uses something different entirely.
Digging through the Galaxy S 4 kernel source we see references to an APQ8064AB part. As a recap, APQ8064 was the first quad-core Krait 200 SoC with no integrated modem, more commonly referred to as Snapdragon S4 Pro. APQ8064T was supposed to be its higher clocked/Krait 300 based successor that ended up with the marketing name Snapdragon 600. APQ8064AB however is, at this point, unique to the Galaxy S 4 but still carries the Snapdragon 600 marketing name.
If we had to guess, we might be looking at an actual respin of the APQ8064 silicon in APQ8064AB. Assuming Qualcomm isn't playing any funny games here, APQ8064AB may simply be a respin capable of hitting higher frequencies. We'll have to keep a close eye on this going forward, but it's clear to me that the Galaxy S 4 is shipping with something different than everyone else who has a Snapdragon 600 at this point.
The one I played with had the AB S800.
Fingers crossed!
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The one I played with had the AB S800.
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The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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He later said this:
Actually I looked into this some more - the network guy I was in contact with said it was the AB binning as it was clocked at 2.3Ghz. I took that as read and hence posted that information here, however I see even at the 2.3Ghz clockspeed it looks like there are two binnings for the GPU speed. Bottom line I can't categorically state this is AB bin, my apologies for that - OP updated.
Here is what the Voodoo Report says, as you can see it depends on whether the 0007 revision corresponds to the AB bin:
Hardware : Qualcomm MSM 8974 (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision : 0007
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The table in the referenced Anandtech article shows the CPU of the MSM8974AB as being 100MHz faster. It shows the MSM8974 at 2.2GHz, and the MSM8974AB at 2.3. Given this, I would assume that the note would have the MSM8974AB processor.
edit: Just checked the specs on the G2 and Z1. Those phones list their CPU speeds at 2260 MHz and 2200MHz respectively and both of them have the S800. Samsung lists the Note 3's CPU at 2.3GHz.
Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
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Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
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Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
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Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
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Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
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Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
servantz said:
The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
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I agree, but Samsung may not want to advertise the S800 SoC too much, because if they say "the S800AB has incredible GPU!" then the Exynos markets would be Plus, Exynos is samsung's SoC brand, and I'm sure they'd rather promote their product over qualcomm's.
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
eustilou said:
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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Maybe Qualcomm can't make that many?
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servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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eustilou said:
This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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Now it's starting to make sense. Thanks for posting this. i found an article somewhere on google that talked about how all Chinese Note 3's would come with the AB variant, but that clearly cannot be the case...still sucks. I am on tmobile so im stuck with the s800 variant. i kind of wish I could get the octo core variant, but i know i wont get LTE and i'm not sure if i would get HSPA+. I've got a preorder in for the note 3 but I'm considering waiting for the new nexus phone. Choices choices....
servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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because Note 3 is much expensive in china, not many people will buy it
and xiaomi has much lower price point at 1999 RMB
also xiaomi has Tegra 4 version this year
so Qualcomm feels NVIDIA will take over the partnership with xiaomi
if they do not offer something real good soc
also Qualcomm is one of the investor of xiaomi
techinsights.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3
I don't know if the site is reliable or not. But it seems that their tear down reveal that sm n9005 is using the AB chip.
Sorry that I can't post links as I am new. but please do take a look!