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The Exynos-problem - source codes yes or no?

Hey there!
As most of the XDA-readers have heard of before, there is a high amount of developers (e.g. from the mighty CM team) ditching samsung devices (S3, Note etc) because of the still missing sources.
As the Nexus 10 is using an 1,7GHz Dual-Core Exynos 5250-Prozessor with ARM Cortex-A15 (and as I´m standing pretty near to the noob community when it comes down to such a topic), I´m wondering if this device will ever get a "respectful" developer support, as it is normally extected with nexus devices.

give samsung sometime to release it

I agree. This has been a problem with all exynos devices. I even saw where some developers won't touch them because of that. I hope this changes
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To be skeptical, I've only seen promises to release Exynos 4, not 5.

They will be releasing by the end 2012 source code for exynos 4, they didnt mention anything about exynos 5. Maybe they will release source code for exynos 5 when they launch exynos 6. Thanks samsung

I thought nexus devices had all the source code released for the hardware and software in the devices. Am I wrong thinking this?
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crash822 said:
I thought nexus devices had all the source code released for the hardware and software in the devices. Am I wrong thinking this?
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That's not necessarily true, for example the Nexus 7 doesn't have full documentation for the Tegra 3 chip.
Also, regarding documentation for the 5250, this thread has been opened and it seems there's PDF documentation for it already.

So does this mean there likely will not be any custom ROMs [Cyanogenmod, AOKP, AOSP, etc]? Or what? Or they will just be modified stock versions? :S

mvmacd said:
So does this mean there likely will not be any custom ROMs [Cyanogenmod, AOKP, AOSP, etc]? Or what? Or they will just be modified stock versions? :S
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Even if the source code is unavailable, the blobs needed to run AOSP-based versions (CM, AOKP, etc. etc.) are there, so no need to worry.

josuetenista said:
They will be releasing by the end 2012 source code for exynos 4, they didnt mention anything about exynos 5. Maybe they will release source code for exynos 5 when they launch exynos 6. Thanks samsung
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can you provide the source of this information
thanks

_Raziel666 said:
Even if the source code is unavailable, the blobs needed to run AOSP-based versions (CM, AOKP, etc. etc.) are there, so no need to worry.
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This...

Despyse said:
This...
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uhm...."this" is the content of your second post on this board? (scnr)

brooon said:
uhm...."this" is the content of your second post on this board? (scnr)
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Does it matter? But no, I had another account, no longer have access to it. (better? -__- ) I'm a themer... not a noob. -__-

Samsung will probably release it, they did notice members from Team Hacksung and Cyanogenmod complaining about the lack of source codes and will release them late this year.

Despyse said:
Does it matter? But no, I had another account, don't use it. I'm a themer... not a noob. -__-
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It's against the TOS to have multiple accounts.

Developer support for I9500 and I9505?

Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?

dafabsl said:
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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recklesslife85 said:
The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.

hung2900 said:
Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.
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I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?

dafabsl said:
Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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PERSONAL OPINION WARNING
Many of us are probably getting the Snapdragon version. Easier to develop plus many devices are using it.

dafabsl said:
I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?
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No that's snapdragon
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TingTingin said:
No that's snapdragon
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daaaamn..
this german site here http://www.cnet.de/88108212/samsung-galaxy-s4-exynos-octa-5-kommt-nach-deutschland/
said the i9505 would be the one with octa :/
I really hoped that, because i won't use lte and in Austria we almost don't use lte and lte is really expensive, and I read that the Octa processor will be better for battery life

I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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TingTingin said:
I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...

dafabsl said:
Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...
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The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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TingTingin said:
The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/

dafabsl said:
hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/
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Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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TingTingin said:
Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.
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But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..

dafabsl said:
But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..
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this is how it looks to me ...
look at the previous galaxy and note series.. the non-lte version is available in almost all countries.. hence has the most dev support..
but in s4's case., since they cant mass produce exynos octa YET., they decided to use snapdragon even in countries outside the u.s... that's the only way to make s4 available to all countries..
they wanted to be the first to use octa chip?.. they sure am now.. but why rush releasing it when they cant give all people this octa feature they boast about?.. that's because they dont want xperia z and htc one to have all the spotlight..
and the result is what OP is asking now..
since the u.s. and most european countries will have I9505., the logical answer is the snapdragon will have more dev support.. and even have the higher chance to have cm..

Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?

lazylilsnoop said:
Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo

AW: Developer support for I9500 and I9505?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo
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Why wouldn't there be a CM for the sgs4?

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
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From your comment one would assume u know what your talking about it seems u have been misled
Octa is better on battery life I'm really not going to explain this again it is also more powerful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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Great thread and very good question OP. Right now, it looks like the snapdragon version will be the most dev friendly since it'll be the one sold in big markets ( US, UK, Germany....). I wish that the exynos 5 octa had LTE included. The note 2 had the same processor everywhere in the world and that was great.

[Q] Why so few custom ROMS for the S4 Exynos?

Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa

device is relatively new, exynos always gave headaches to devs of CM.....
give it time, some people said its not worth upgrading from an s3 so... yeah less custom ROMs

Really its a bitter truth...9500 has only 2 or 3 Devs till now with no update and fixes in lias 2 or 3 weeks ..that section seems like ghost busted :
9505 too has not as many Devs as HTC One has...however it has quite good dev support
I think after so many issues in s4 Devs are skipping it [probably] for note 3

lets wait and see in the near future if the outcome is bad, its hammer time !

Gboss01 said:
Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa
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To be clear - CM rarely says that a given device will NEVER be supported. The last time we did that was with the Snapdragon S1 and CM9 - That hardware was simply too weak to support ICS and later.
However, all of the CM maintainers that have worked with past Exynos variants refuse to touch it, and anyone else with maintainer experience saw what we went through with Exynos4 and also seem to be avoiding it.
There is always the possibility that someone new will pick things up - but honestly, I consider the likelihood to be very slim.
So CM support for the "Octa" is POSSIBLE - but it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. I think that AndreiLux was the only experienced low-level (kernels, platform bringup) developer to touch the "Octa", and he's not particularly happy with it so far.

Entropy512 said:
So CM support for the "Octa" is POSSIBLE - but it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. I think that AndreiLux was the only experienced low-level (kernels, platform bringup) developer to touch the "Octa", and he's not particularly happy with it so far.
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Other than the CCI fiasco I'm relatively fine with the phone. I expected and was prepared to bring MP to the device but I guess that's not happening.
As for CM, I think it's more of a problem of lack of interest than actual technical feasibility. I'd happily dwell into the device platform world if I had time but that's not happening anytime soon as I have a backlog of features in the kernel space to do and finish.

AndreiLux said:
Other than the CCI fiasco I'm relatively fine with the phone. I expected and was prepared to bring MP to the device but I guess that's not happening.
As for CM, I think it's more of a problem of lack of interest than actual technical feasibility. I'd happily dwell into the device platform world if I had time but that's not happening anytime soon as I have a backlog of features in the kernel space to do and finish.
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Why you will not bring it anymore?

Gboss01 said:
Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa
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No CM support does not equal to no dev support just to be clear. There are top.devs here ( Indie and Wanam) and there most likely be more devs to join the party. It is however a surprise that there's only a few Roms for this device at the moment.
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Well because most of the S4 users have the Snapdragon variant. As for CM, as Entropy said, its most probably not going to come out for our device, even if it does, it'll be broken and unusable due to lack of source code/documentation, etc. As for the custom ROMs, we'll have more of them but the best one IMO - Android Revolution HD - is very unlikely for our device.

The Octa is such a great phone yet the support seems to be lacking a little, I mean my Huawei U8800 had more development going on than this phone.
I dont get why alot of people are saying the Octa is crap compared to the S600 when the Octa beats the S600 in every benchmark I've seen.
Is the S600 an easier design to build custom ROMS for?
I have tried Doc Barebones ROM and Wanams Lite ROM. Both work well on the Octa but I found Docs ROM to the give me the highest Antutu scores, always above 30000 with the highest being 30890. Wanam's ROM didn't yield much more than the stock ROM, around 28300, same with the Omega v4 ROM.
I'm back to on the stock firmware, with bloatware removed, for now. having tried those three ROMS I'm itching to try another but alas I cant find any :crying:

Gboss01 said:
Is the S600 an easier design to build custom ROMS for?
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Yes as Qualcomm is much more open source than Exynos. Not open source = pain in the a** to develop.
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chickentuna said:
Yes as Qualcomm is much more open source than Exynos. Not open source = pain in the a** to develop.
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Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?

Just simply harder to develop anything for Exynos, i think.

I'd like to remind everyone that developers spend their own time and money on development.
Basically, unless the developer has a strong interest in a device he will not feel obliged to 'hack' features such as camera, noise canceling and so on.
I miss the old days of the HD2
I hope we can get CM on the 9500 because it will open the door for AOKP and Paranoid-Android and possibly MIUI.
Good luck to the developers.

RIP on i9500 haha just joking ... @AndreiLux are u giving up on i9500 ? oh please dont

As Entropy512 said, the problem is mostly because Exynos has terrible source code support. There are a lot of precompiled modules in the source, and these are tied to the Android version that the source code is for. This means that when a new version of Android comes out, you're stuck waiting for Samsung to catch up.
What the devs (like Entropy) have been trying to do is to create open-source versions of these modules, so that they're not reliant on Samsung. This has been extremely frustrating for them, requiring a lot of work for very little gain.
What would be ideal is for Samsung to provide source code and documentation for these precompiled modules. They're promised to do this several times, but so far have only delivered some code that only works for a reference board, not for the hardware configurations that any of their phones use. Even worse, the source code that is available is based on Gingerbread, and has numerous hacks applied to allow it to work with ICS. In short, it's just broken and will not work.
Qualcomm (Snapdragon), on the other hand, provide very good developer support. They and Texas Instruments (OMAP) have a very good reputation with the devs, with lots of source code and documentation available. That's why Snapdragon and OMAP phones are among the first to be supported when new versions of AOSP/AOKP/CM come out.
The I9500 may do better in the benchmarks than the I9505, but that's one of the few advantages it has.
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I am not really interested in anything else but AOSP / CM on this phone. We badly need it.. I think we need to build the force on Twitter so that we can bombard their twitter account (@SamsungExynos) and force them to release at least some sorta source for Exynos.
I already started tweeting them like hell. Yes, they do reply with kind of SAFE sided replies..

Gboss01 said:
Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?
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If they did it would make the world of difference and Exynos would be on a level playing field in development terms as the likes of Snapdragon. Unfortunately, Samsung have been saying that since the original Galaxy S and it still hasn't happened, and it's clear they never intended to release anything and it was nothing more than lip service in an attempt to sell more handsets by appearing developer friendly. It's broken promises like this which has made reputable developers wash their hands with the Exynos chipset and any phones that use it. Unfortunately, this leaves people with the I9500 in a bit of a predicament if they're not fond of TW as it's likely to be their only option for the foreseeable, if not full stop.

Gboss01 said:
Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?
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Exynos open source? Highly unlikely and yes it would be much easier building roms, devs wouldn't even need to have the device to build a working ROM.

gdonanthony said:
RIP on i9500 haha just joking ... @AndreiLux are u giving up on i9500 ? oh please dont
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He never said that, on the contrary he might be having some big plans
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[Q] new exynos, AOKP for i9500 and new linux kernel

1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do

darixtorento said:
1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do
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1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3

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1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3
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thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?

So does that mean we are not going to see AOKP on i9500 soon. I love AOKPs and am cursing myself for not buying the i9505 as it was available. Smartphone is no joy without AOKP.

darixtorento said:
thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?
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this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/

jj9922 said:
this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
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this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?

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this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?
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yes but it should give you an idea about it

We all miss AOKP!
Hello guys, an Android / xda developers n00b here...
The Octo Core GT-I9500 was the only choice here since it's the only S4 model shipped in my country so I'm a bit frustrated too about the AOKP thing - which I learned it may well be the next big thing after CyanogenMOD itself.
I'm about to flash Arrow ROM right now which seems pretty interesting and also will give Omega ROM a try, while we can't put our dirty hands on AOKP we surely have two really nice mods to play with
As such, I'm all years about your experiences - if any - with any of these two ROMs.
Cheers

so no aokp coming soon?
even GS3 got aopk faster

Comon people please help

Comon i need answersssss

Comon what goes on there are any news?
Where is aopk for s4

what goes on

learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..

gdonanthony said:
learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..
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i did, and found nothing

darixtorento said:
i did, and found nothing
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If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Gillion said:
If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Or what is more or less the same thing: it will not get faster no matter how much you stand still looking at it!
(and, btw, this is just what's happening to me reloading the site every 5' min awaiting for the imminent release of Arrow ROM 4.0, lol!)

In general thread of i9500 and i9505 a thread exist s about cm development for i9500 some good info there!

64 bit

Is there a way or any ideas of how to enable 64 bit in the exynos chip or its gonna be locked and cannot be enabled?
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sirwanesmail said:
Is there a way or any ideas of how to enable 64 bit in the exynos chip or its gonna be locked and cannot be enabled?
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You cannot since current Android version on N4 runs only on 32-bit. I have also heard rumors about our exynos chip not actually having a 64-bit CPU. There's only one way to find out and that is to wait for Lollipop since that will start support for 64-bit CPUs.

quadlt said:
You cannot since current Android version on N4 runs only on 32-bit. I have also heard rumors about our exynos chip not actually having a 64-bit CPU. There's only one way to find out and that is to wait for Lollipop since that will start support for 64-bit CPUs.
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Its been said before. Exynos is most definitely a 64-bit chip, but even when android L comes out, samsung will not enable the 64bit architecture on the Exynos. Also no custom rom will be able to unlock it, so even though it is 64bit you will only ever use it in 32bit mode. Having said that, its still a better chip than the Snapdragon.

ozaghloul said:
Its been said before. Exynos is most definitely a 64-bit chip, but even when android L comes out, samsung will not enable the 64bit architecture on the Exynos. Also no custom rom will be able to unlock it, so even though it is 64bit you will only ever use it in 32bit mode. Having said that, its still a better chip than the Snapdragon.
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Might be true. However at least we will get 100% ART with hopefully Xposed support...

ozaghloul said:
Its been said before. Exynos is most definitely a 64-bit chip, but even when android L comes out, samsung will not enable the 64bit architecture on the Exynos. Also no custom rom will be able to unlock it, so even though it is 64bit you will only ever use it in 32bit mode. Having said that, its still a better chip than the Snapdragon.
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Are you making a statement ?? XD
The bootloader in the Note 4 Exynos is alredy prepared for 64bits.
Also, if you want development from @AndreiLux please make a donation here https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/note-4-exynos-development-device
And spread this.

Lodix said:
Are you making a statement ?? XD
The bootloader in the Note 4 Exynos is alredy prepared for 64bits.
Also, if you want development from @AndreiLux please make a donation here https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/note-4-exynos-development-device
And spread this.
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Just repeating whats been said on the Snapdragon vs Exynos thread. Personally I will never root, so for me at least it will always be 32bit because there is zero chance that samsung will upgrade half the note 4s out there to 64bit without risking a full riot and possibly legal action from snapdragon owners.

ozaghloul said:
Just repeating whats been said on the Snapdragon vs Exynos thread. Personally I will never root, so for me at least it will always be 32bit because there is zero chance that samsung will upgrade half the note 4s out there to 64bit without risking a full riot and possibly legal action from snapdragon owners.
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What ??? You are exaggerating a lot...
I am telling you that the software in the Note is alredy prepared to 64bits. And most of the costumer don't know which processor have and if it is running in 32 or 64 bits. There is no point in demanding Samsung for something like this.
For years different version of the same "model" have been launched by Samsung with some different features like the Galaxy S3 in USA having 2GB of RAM and LTE while in Europe only 1GB and just 3G.

Lodix said:
What ??? You are exaggerating a lot...
I am telling you that the software in the Note is alredy prepared to 64bits. And most of the costumer don't know which processor have and if it is running in 32 or 64 bits. There is no point in demanding Samsung for something like this.
For years different version of the same "model" have been launched by Samsung with some different features like the Galaxy S3 in USA having 2GB of RAM and LTE while in Europe only 1GB and just 3G.
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Well I hope you are right. It would be lovely to have 64bit. However that is not what everyone is saying over in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-snapdragon-805-to-exynos-5433-t2868247

ozaghloul said:
Well I hope you are right. It would be lovely to have 64bit. However that is not what everyone is saying over in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-snapdragon-805-to-exynos-5433-t2868247
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Oh, a lot of people without any kind of knowledge about the topic claim Samsung will not update to 64bits. Who cares ? XD
And those people are Snapdragon users

Lodix said:
Oh, a lot of people without any kind of knowledge about the topic claim Samsung will not update to 64bits. Who cares ? XD
And those people are Snapdragon users
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Well I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss them all as idiots.
The big question is why Samsung choose to name this chip Exynos 5433 and not market it as a 64-bit chip in a new product lineup? The answer could be simply that we won't ever see the 5433 running in AArch64 mode. The chip's firmware and drivers are running on a "CAL" / Chip-Abstraction-Layer on the lowest level of the driver stacks. In fact, beyond the CPU cores (and GPU), the Exynos 5433 looks very similar to the Exynos 5430 which employs A15/A7 cores.
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source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8537/samsungs-exynos-5433-is-an-a57a53-arm-soc
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AndreiLux said:
I doubt we'll be seeing AArch64 from the community if Samsung doesn't support it themselves, and similar to the 5420 HMP it's because the software stack is tied to the bootloader which is closed source. Of course they could update it but they have absolutely no incentive to do so and the probability in my opinion is near zero.
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ozaghloul said:
Well I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss them all as idiots.
source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8537/samsungs-exynos-5433-is-an-a57a53-arm-soc
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Not all.
And we have recently know that Samsung has added the Exynos in Note 4 to the new Exynos 7 family.
And we have found that the bootloader is alredy in 64 bits...
He is human, he can give his opinion based on some arguments but he doesn't have to be right and we all wrong. Indeed he was saying at the beginning that the Exynos 5433 was A15/A7 and then he retracted to be wrong, we all commit mistakes.

Heres the proof
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up this thread, now we have marsmallow, 64bits is near... in next os. ironic mode on....