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A flop with consumers, sold-out Nexus One scores with developers.
Google tried — and ultimately failed — to turn the U.S. wireless market upside-down by selling its supercharged Nexus One Android phone online, with minimal help from the big carriers. But now, months after shuttering its online storefront for the phone, the Nexus One is a sudden, improbable hit.
Who’s buying the Nexus One, you ask? Android developers, that’s who — and apparently, they’re so eager to get their mitts on the eight-month-old handset that Google supply of Nexus One phones for developers is completely sold out.
So says a post on Google’s Android developers blog (via TechCrunch), with Google’s Tim Bray writing that Google "blew through the (substantial) initial inventory in almost no time," adding that Nexus One manufacturer HTC is busy trying to crank out more of the suddenly gotta-have handsets.
Google launched the Nexus One — described in hushed tones as the "Google Phone" in the days and weeks before its official unveiling — way back in January, and the search behemoth caused quite a stir by offering the Android 2.1-powered handset only on the Web, through Google’s own Nexus One online storefront.
Why all the fuss? Because usually it’s the big carriers (think AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon Wireless) who do the heavy lifting in terms of marketing and selling cell phones, both online and (mainly) in brick-and-mortar stores. While it got a little help from T-Mobile, which subsidized the Nexus One for use on its network, Google’s decision to go it virtually alone with the Nexus One — with practically no marketing help from a carrier—was seen as a potentially game-changing move.
Unfortunately, it turned out to be anything but. Sales of the Nexus One never took off, and an unprepared Google — which, before the Nexus One launch, had little need for a bank of customer-service reps — found itself quickly overwhelmed by customers complaining about iffy 3G reception (which ultimately led to a patch) and other assorted glitches.
Consumers were also underwhelmed by the less-than-revolutionary $179 two-year contract price and $529 price tag for an unlocked Nexus One, while existing T-Mobile users were turned off by the $379 upgrade price for the phone (which was eventually cut by $100). Last May, Google finally waved the white flag, announcing that it would close down its online Nexus One store.
So yes, Google learned the hard way that nothing beats a "full-court press by a big national carrier" (as I wrote back in May) when it comes to selling a smartphone. But here’s the thing: The well-reviewed Nexus One itself wasn’t a bad phone — indeed, it was (and still is) a pretty good one, complete with a 3.7-inch AMOLED screen, a 1GHz "Snapdragon" processor, 512MB of RAM, and a 5-megapixel camera with a flash.
The Nexus One also happened to be among the first handsets to get an update to Android 2.2 — a fact that clearly wasn’t lost on enthusiastic Android developers, who’ve been able to buy the unlocked Nexus One — in droves, apparently — direct from Google for a few weeks now.
In any case, Google is now in the strange but surely satisfying position of "working hard on re-stocking" (as Google’s TIm Bray puts it) a smartphone that looked all but dead just a few months ago. Strange, but true.
Google’s Android developers blog: A Little Too Popular (via TechCrunch)
— Ben Patterson is a technology writer for Yahoo! News.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/20100820/tc_ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc3447
guess that means that the nexus was more popular then Google thought
Sounds like the making of a Nexus 2 could become possible. Anybody else agree?
"The Nexus One also happened to be among the first handsets to get an update to Android 2.2" - REALLY? It was THE first phone. And it wasn't a "pretty good" phone, it was the best on the market for several months after launch. I think this guy has some facts he needs to get straightened out.
I really think the nexus sold more units over time then people think, and is in demand more than people think. This kinda shows that. Google jumped the gun by closing their online store. Also they mis calculated by not making the nexus into a whole line of Google phones.
The Nexus would have taken off at the time, but Google saw fit to market their well known search engine at superbowls and such instead of a phone that no one heard of.
As much as Google may have fumbled the marketing of the Nexus One when it was sold publicly - all that aside...
The article makes a lot of noise without revealing any numbers which are key to really verifying the conclusion that the phone is becoming more popular as a developer phone.
Yes, Google sold out the developer allotment - that's great. But, they also sold out a few allotments of their public phone back in the day - most notably the last allotment they ordered in July which sold out a week or two earlier than expected. That fact alone doesn't mean anything without knowing how big the allotments were. For all the article states, the allotment for the developers could have been very tiny under the theory that a smaller audience produces less sales and most developers would probably have already ordered one when they were sold publicly anyway.
All we know is that someone was pleasantly surprised by the demand for it from the developer store and that the initial allotment - chosen specifically for that sales purpose - was underestimated.
But, we don't know if that represents higher overall demand (or even relative demand) compared to the public allotments. And we don't know if either demand represented enough market force for the company to have continued to pursue its business plan of being in the open market for handsets.
It also rankles me when they make supporting comments like "now, months after shuttering its online storefront". Sorry, it was less than 1 month since they shut down the storefront when they sold out the developer phones. And don't ignore that allotments were selling out during the consumer sales when you try to make it sound like the developer sell-out was unprecedented. The fact that it was almost 1 month after the shut down the store (not months like the author states) was *due* to a consumer sellout. Otherwise it would have only been a couple of weeks since the store front was scheduled to shut down.
I think the point is that with all these high end android phones out now, the fact that ANYONE is choosing the nexus still tells the story. Specific numbers don't really matter. This is especially true since all these other phones are subsidized on contract, and the nexus is full price, and still selling at all 7 months later.
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I think the point is that with all these high end android phones out now, the fact that ANYONE is choosing the nexus still tells the story. Specific numbers don't really matter. This is especially true since all these other phones are subsidized on contract, and the nexus is full price, and still selling at all 7 months later.
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Hi Roger,
That is a good point, but it isn't the tone of the article. "A flop with consumers" - "the Nexus One is [now] a sudden, improbable hit" - "[developers buying] in droves, apparently".
A flop? Really?
Sudden hit? Really that sudden?
Improbable hit? Really?
It may have had marketing problems, but it was never a flop. The new MS phones being canceled a week after they were released - that's a flop for you. And there is nothing sudden about a sellout a couple of weeks after another sellout. Nor is there anything improbably about that, or anything that spells "hit". And how big is a "drove". Apparently it is so specific that they suddenly realize the complete lack of facts in their piece and have to tack on the word "apparently". So, the phone is now selling to developers in a manner that one can only suppose is describable by a term that is as vague as "droves". Cute.
I'm glad that it is still selling and I'm glad that it sold out its developer allotment, but this article is exaggerating the impact of those facts with hyperbole based on both lack of knowledge (believing that the phone has been off sale for "months", etc.) and assumption of facts not presented.
It would be one thing if they had said what you said "The developer allotment sold out which shows that there is still positive demand for a device that is this old, but without numbers we can't tell if the demand is actually stronger in its developer form than it was as a consumer offering". But no, they basically paint its consumer history as if they couldn't be given away and then, without any numbers, paint the developer demand as being so much stronger than anything anyone could have expected that Google was stupid to have canceled it.
Sorry, no, the sell-out indicates that someone, somewhere, was wrong about a prediction that was specific to developer sales and has no bearing whatsoever about how the demand now compares to the demand as a consumer phone or to any other currently shipping phones.
As far as longevity - the G1 was still being sold as recently as about a month ago. Technology alone doesn't really dictate sales, but it is an important driver.
Now that Google knows there is an appetite for a "super dev phone", might they also reconsider their decision to permanently shelve the UMTS 850/1900 version?
I hate articles like this. The facts are wrong which makes the whole article irrelevant. I think the problem with the Nexus One is that only the geeks here really heard about it. There was no advertising done what-so-ever.
Although I am surprised to see more and more people recognize it as "Is that the Google phone?".
I'm glad I bought mine when I did because they shut down the store. Now I love it even more knowing that every joe-smoe can't go out and pick one up. I like knowing that I have one of the best Android phones and "you" can't buy one anymore.
I think we'll see a huge demand for the N1 when Gingerbread comes out. I think it will take a lot of time and a lot more tweaking to get 3.0 on a 2.x device then it was 2.2 on top of 2.1. I'm just happy that Google is developing it specifically for my phone and I don't have to worry about having a buggy port.
There are various news reports saying that online retailers aren't selling t-mobile's Note anymore.
This includes t-mobile themselves, amazon, etc.
I kind of expected gen 1 to still be sold for a discount. You'd think there are quite a few out there waiting to be sold.
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
There are various news reports saying that online retailers aren't selling t-mobile's Note anymore.
This includes t-mobile themselves, amazon, etc.
I kind of expected gen 1 to still be sold for a discount. You'd think there are quite a few out there waiting to be sold.
- Frank
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Perhaps there's recognition of the superbrick fault, or perhaps they are just taking a heads up to note 2,timing seems appropriate.
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I know that Amazon took a lot of time going through the issues when I had the Note, and there was just a little more than a subtle hint that Amazon was prepared to withdraw the product. It could be that Amazon are just waiting for new stock, or maybe preparation for new models. I tend to feel that there is an end of line discounted old stock campaign missing in this.
I'm currently working in Shanghai, and I've only been here a couple of months. I'm a devoted Nexus user, and I would really like to upgrade from my GNex to the N4 as soon as possible.
The majority of my friends and family still live in the States, so I was thinking of ordering one to one of their houses and having them ship it to me. Will I run into any issues shipping a new electronic device from the States to China? I haven't tried this yet, and, when I try to find the answer, Google wants to correct my question, telling me I must mean shipping from China to the States. Anyone have any experience with this?
The other options seem to be:
1. To wait for someone to bring it to me. I've got a handful of people coming to visit in early '13, and that seems really far away. Or
2. To wait for it to be available here in China. Anyone know what to expect for time and price if I wait?
Are there other options I'm missing? Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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Two or three years ago they started to check if one's smuggling electronics into China. I don't know if they have gone easy on that. The safest bet is to have someone buy one from US and then bring it back to you.
The other choice is to buy one on Taobao. Once it starts to sell in Hong Kong there will be a million of them either on Taobao or local smartphone market. You just need to be able to tell the genuine ones from the fake ones. Most Chinese get their phones this way. If you have any Chinese friends (male), ask them about it.
Don't count it to be available in China. Google is basically at war with the Chinese government over the hacking thing.
I'm going back to China early December. Its a shame I'm not going by Shanghai though.
This is good advice. Thanks. I'll definitely check with my colleagues to see who will be traveling to the States in the next couple of weeks. I'm not feeling especially patient about this upgrade.
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Edit: Has anyone ordered through AT&T Premier Account?
I found this thread of people having issues from the iPhone 5 launch.
http:// http://forums.att.com/t5/Apple-Community-Discussion/AT-amp-T-Premier-royally-messed-up-iphone-5-order/td-p/3307493
Im hoping my situation turns out better then these people. Im just looking to see if anyone else's order is in my shoes. When I go search for the order using the Order ID its not found,
Has anyone received an email stating that the S4 for AT&T is on back order. I ordered late tuesdsy night (pacific time). I'm on family talk and my cousin sent me an email that he supposedly got stating the S4 was on back order. He is a talented artist with the ability to photoshop something to troll me, (hes an iPhone fanboy go figure)... Any info would be awesome...
From:*[email protected]
Date:*April 18, 2013, 8:32:51 AM MST
To:*#######@gmail.com
Subject:*AT&T Premier Items on Back-order*
Dear ####### #####,
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Thank you for your recent purchase on the AT&T Premier Online Store. We are pleased that you chose AT&T as your wireless service provider.*Unfortunately, items in your order are out of stock and are backordered. We will ship them as soon as they are available, and notify you of the shipment by email. We will ship multiple backordered items when all items are in stock.If your order remains out of stock or backordered for 30 days, your order will be automatically canceled.*You can view the*status of your order*on AT&T Premier Online Store at any time.
Reference Web Order Number: ##################
*Thank you,
The AT&T Premier Team
Note:*This email message was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mails. Do not reply to this message.©*2013 AT&T Intellectual Property. All rights reserved. AT&T and AT&T logo are trademarks of AT&T Intellectual Property.
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Has anyone received an email stating that the S4 for AT&T is on back order. I ordered late tuesdsy night (pacific time). I'm on family talk and my cousin sent me an email that he supposedly got stating the S4 was on back order. He is a talented artist with the ability to photoshop something to troll me, (hes an iPhone fanboy go figure)... Any info would be awesome...
From:*[email protected]
Date:*April 18, 2013, 8:32:51 AM MST
To:*#######@gmail.com
Subject:*AT&T Premier Items on Back-order*
Dear ####### #####,
*
Thank you for your recent purchase on the AT&T Premier Online Store. We are pleased that you chose AT&T as your wireless service provider.*Unfortunately, items in your order are out of stock and are backordered. We will ship them as soon as they are available, and notify you of the shipment by email. We will ship multiple backordered items when all items are in stock.If your order remains out of stock or backordered for 30 days, your order will be automatically canceled.*You can view the*status of your order*on AT&T Premier Online Store at any time.
Reference Web Order Number: ##################
*Thank you,
The AT&T Premier Team
Note:*This email message was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mails. Do not reply to this message.©*2013 AT&T Intellectual Property. All rights reserved. AT&T and AT&T logo are trademarks of AT&T Intellectual Property.
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I wouldn't put stock in that - There may be some local shortages, but Samsung is highly unlikely to pull an HTC and not be able to supply phones on time when promised. They're too big a company and too competitive to make that kind of mistake on a large scale!
EDIT: Here's more proof it will be available - http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s4_expected_to_ship_10_million_units_in_first_month-news-5886.php
WA_Bob said:
I wouldn't put stock in that - There may be some local shortages, but Samsung is highly unlikely to pull an HTC and not be able to supply phones on time when promised. They're too big a company and too competitive to make that kind of mistake on a large scale!
EDIT: Here's more proof it will be available - http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s4_expected_to_ship_10_million_units_in_first_month-news-5886.php
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That's not exactly proof it will be available...first they say its EXPECTED - plus when you think about it...10 million really isn't that much when California's population alone is 38 million (313 million people in tthe US total). Now add the rest of the countries...not that much...
10 million units is only enough to supply to about 3% of the US population...and your telling us that 10 million devices expected to ship first month is proof there isn't a backorder? Now I know not everyone uses smartphones and not everyone that uses smartphones will get the sgs 4...but I'm sure way over 10 million people want to get it when its released - and there is no saying if the 10 million units will all available at the beginning of the month or will be shipped out periodically to avoid over stalking low purchase areas...
But I do hope there isn't...they did say first com first serve....so hopefully I got my preorder in time for me to actually get the April 30th ship date
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That's not exactly proof it will be available...first they say its EXPECTED - plus when you think about it...10 million really isn't that much when California's population alone is 38 million (313 million people in tthe US total). Now add the rest of the countries...not that much...
10 million units is only enough to supply to about 3% of the US population...and your telling us that 10 million devices expected to ship first month is proof there isn't a backorder? Now I know not everyone uses smartphones and not everyone that uses smartphones will get the sgs 4...but I'm sure way over 10 million people want to get it when its released - and there is no saying if the 10 million units will all available at the beginning of the month or will be shipped out periodically to avoid over stalking low purchase areas...
But I do hope there isn't...they did say first com first serve....so hopefully I got my preorder in time for me to actually get the April 30th ship date
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I think you are understating the significance of 10 million devices sold with ONE month. That is an extreme amount of devices and if Samsung believes it will sell that, then they will produce 10 million x 1.xx for that period.
This isn't HTC and the design they are working with doesn't require "200 minutes of CNC'ing" per device. Don't worry. This is going to go smoothly.
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I think you are understating the significance of 10 million devices sold with ONE month. That is an extreme amount of devices and if Samsung believes it will sell that, then they will produce 10 million x 1.xx for that period.
This isn't HTC and the design they are working with doesn't require "200 minutes of CNC'ing" per device. Don't worry. This is going to go smoothly.
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I'm not saying that 10 million isn't a lot...but that still doesn't mean no chance of back orders...plus as I stated we don't know how they are deploying the devices...if they deploy all 10 million or 10 million through out the first month like maybe supplying 2 million or so a week...plus this is spread out through many countries...so really probably only a few million are going to the US...and this isn't just the att variant if understand, it includes all variants...so att maybe getting a million devices (if that...its probably closer to a few hundred thousand devices for att)- which is still alot - but it still leaves room for back order
-all Im trying to say is that its very possible for a backorder to occur...not saying its going to happen or that its highly likely to happen...just saying that its highly possible
Plus on atts website they did say they are selling them on a first come first serve basis...and that it is possible for delays in shipment based on that - which suggests they also believe in the possibility of a back order
Again I'm not saying 10 mil isn't a lot...but that its possible, especially when you look at the amount of countries/carriers that are going to be selling those 10 mil devices
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Apologies in advance for this shameless bump. I edited my original post and added new information about ATT Premier Accounts. I know its just a phone and I should obsess over it this much, however ive been stuck using an iPhone 4 for like 2 months. I need android back asap.
I ordered mine on the 16th from AT&T Premier over the phone. Its showing processing, not back ordered.
Check my topic in General for more information on this
After reading all the bad news yesterday about HTC (people leaving the company, articles about a "future without HTC", etc): I opened my dutch news app this morning when drinking my coffee and saw this:
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3481460/htc-one-vijf-miljoen-keer-verkocht.html
I expected to see an article about the Galaxy S4 being sold 10m times in the first month, but this nice dutch website preffered to focus on what HTC has done. Apparently, HTC has sold 5 million One's in "one month". So it has done 50% of what Samsung has done in the last month. And I guess that doesn't include what HTC has sold in March/April.
The weird thing is, I always read my twitter feed first. I have not seen a single report about this anywhere on Twitter. On the other side, NU.nl is a big and serious website here in the Netherlands.
What do you guys think? I am very happy to see this and it's far above my expectations. If this is true, HTC is not dying anytime soon!
Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
I'm happy for them and hope they'll get through the rough time they are atm so they can continue making amazing phones!
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Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
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its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
hamdir said:
its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
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High demand with nothing to sell is still not a sale though, unless they are also including unfulfilled orders by their carrier partners and local stores~~ The phone has been launched in my country a whole month ago, and not a single store has more than 1 unit for sale at a time, with some stores getting 5 units per 3 days (that's on the high end) >.>
Making my 1-to-1 change for a faulty NFC chip all the more painful, as I'll have to wait 1-2 weeks for HTC to bring in stock ):
Cbxu said:
you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
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I didn't miss it, though I forgot to mention it in the first post. I'm not sure about the 10m from Samsung either, are those sold or orders done by shops/carriers?
Either way, I was expecting this exact message but with a 1 instead of the 5 million. Even if it's just orders done by carriers/shops, it's far above my expectations!
And it's good HTC are doubling their production, it's indeed awfull they often have 1-2 units per store also in the Netherlands.
I think samsung is aiming the same, 10 million orders but not all of them sold; they're still in storage of retailers / carriers.
Also when i went for accessory shopping, I was told everytime that they didn't have any since they got such few phones (1 - 5 maybe a day). saying it was not worth it yet buying accessories for such a scarce phone. it affects a whole deal.
5 million since launch, not just the last month:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/23/4358378/htc-one-5-million-smartphone-sales
Very respectable number to be honest, sure Samsung has double that in less time but people wanted another S3 and well, thats basically what they got.
Learned people got the One and now word of how good it is, is spreading.
But HTC, why did you release the HTC First? /sigh
5 million Seems like a stretch actually... Supply is still a serious issue..... The unlocked versions in US have been in backorder status for the entire month.... HTC ONE launch has been delayed by over 1 month in most Asia countries....
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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amazing to see htc do so well after all the production delays!
i think this is the first time im hearing them declare how much they sold.
go htc go!!! brilliant stuff
When executives start BS'ing you know your company has issues.
mnshzz said:
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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i think if supplies are enough,it will surpass S4 sales.here in riyadh,One were sold out in two days in all carriers/online stores here..and we are not so lucky to get one..they told us stocks will be avail in 2 to 7 days ..just sayin
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When executives start BS'ing you know your company has issues.
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And how do you know they're BS'ing? Do you have your own sources within HTC, or are you just pulling stuff from the place where the sun don't shine?
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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HTC One is selling good in Turkey aswell. I saw many people who doesn't even know HTC but after seeing review unit they are amazed by quality.
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For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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Exactly. HTC sells to the carriers so those are their sales numbers. They have already made their money.The carriers and other suppliers sell to us, and their numbers reflect that.
ataft said:
Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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bnbasarir said:
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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You are completely right. I would add thought that more of those 5 million units are in consumers hands then the 10 million from Samsung. HTC is pushing this phone out fast. Last one I got was made 6 days before it came into my hands. I would imagine there is a decent stockpile of S4 in some places where I do not think that is true of the ONE.
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mnshzz said:
Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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So then where are these units. What warehouse are they hiding in? Why did some guy pay $800 on ebay for my ONE? No one has stock of the HTC ONE. There is no surplus anywhere that I have heard. I have only heard their are not enough to go around.