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It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
price reductions in the future.
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/11/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-hit-by-poor-sales-production-halved/
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It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
price reductions in the future.
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/11/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-hit-by-poor-sales-production-halved/
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If the carriers in the US allowed phone, I believe it would be selling quite well.
Just my .02, but i almost guarantee if the phone was functioning, sales would be awesome!! Either way, I love my two tabs, they are perfect in size, speed, and everything! Great device in all.
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That is from one analysts speculation. I'll believe it when I see multiple analyst with the same conclusion.
Just keep in mind that this "production halved" bull**** is coming from ONE source, an analyst named Ashok Kumar. He's not the most reliable of sources.
Here's a breakdown on his ****ed up predictions and analysis just up to last summer, and just about Apple:
http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/kumar_track_record
No evidence or references whatsoever are provided for this info.
Article says "Info suggests" and "an analyst suggests"...
Give me a break... until references and numbers are given... sounds like bs to moi.
I do agree that US sales would be up if it could be used as a phone tho.
xexes said:
No evidence or references whatsoever are provided for this info.
Article says "Info suggests" and "an analyst suggests"...
Give me a break... until references and numbers are given... sounds like bs to moi.
I do agree that US sales would be up if it could be used as a phone tho.
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I would personally think that he does make a little bit of sense on the pricing part. Despite the great features, performance and stability, the price is a too high compared to IPhone which is heavily subsidized when you signed up with some carriers. Not mine but i know most of the carriers don't subsidize much for this phone.
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How is that bad news for Samsung Tab owners???? I already have one and yes the price will drop but I knew that when I bought mine.... I wanted to enjoy it now and not wait to save a few bucks....
The price drops on everything and there is always a better device on the horizon...
Phone should have been working. Price? Can't blame them for attempting to match Apple, but think the advantages at coming a /bit/ lower would have outweighed the loss of profit per unit.
Least they can drop the price now/offer more features. If they'd have started low, as great as it would have been, if sales had been crazy off the wall, they'd never be able to raise the prices.
So...
Maybe, there's probably a bit of truth to it. If there's a whole load of bundling announced soon (which will be the first step, not dropping the price) it'll be telling.
We'll see.
Not selling well
Here in Thailand it is hard to get your hands on one as it seams the first batch has been sold out.
Hey guys,
i just got mine from Taipei last week, its sold out everwhere over there. I heard their next shipment from the distributors is by the end of the month.
I luckily got mine on the last day of my trip after 2 weeks of constant searching!
the Tab rocks!
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The Tab is selling just fine. They are launching it on 4 carriers.. and when AT&T launches next week it'll be on all 4. It's selling fine. Try and find one in stock at a Sprint store in the Bay Area - I dare you.
I was in a Swisscom shop yesterday here in Switzerland, and they mentioned that they can't get enough in Stock.
here in the philippines it is also almost out of stock very hard to find a shop with remaining stocks also
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here in the philippines it is also almost out of stock very hard to find a shop with remaining stocks also
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Oh ****.. Good to hear it's selling well in other countries and that the analyst is wrong. More sales = More development = More benefits for users..
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The Tab is selling just fine. They are launching it on 4 carriers.. and when AT&T launches next week it'll be on all 4. It's selling fine. Try and find one in stock at a Sprint store in the Bay Area - I dare you.
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did you get the sprint version?
Can't seem to keep them in stock in Canada either. Article is FUD at best. Got mine and I love it.
plain and simple. People will or wont buy it. period.
I love analysts that try and "speculate" on sales forecasts on a device that just got released in a major market what...2 weeks ago?
Did i become impatient and pay the full price? hell ya. am i regretting it? hell no. This is the exact device I've been waiting for...I've played with a ton of different tablets including the original laptop - spin screen tablets...and this is hands down my favorite.
Pocket legends = wow....seriously? on a phone? its every bit as good as the original Everquest graphics were.
enough soap boxing....gonna go waste my day with PL now...as one of my favoritely mocked actors would say... "Shuck it Kumar...Shuck it loooong and hard!"
International version probably does better than North American but it should be no surprise to the carriers because potential customers having been voicing all along that:
International
Voice enabled
More competitive unlimited data plans
North American
No voice
Greedy tiered data plans
On top of that, the Tab's larger screen size is ideal for HD YouTube but there's no 4G on any NA version. I'm on Sprint and 3G buffers too much while watching HD Youtube.
looked at all the mobile manufacturer and nothing even compares to the screen size of the samsung will be released by the 1st quarter of 2011 and by far this is the dream phone i have been longing for a long time been speculating to buy an archos 70 and an android phone but the SGT really gives you the best of both worlds so enuff said this phone will definitely sell and it will have more developers working to port CFW definitely waiting for a cyanogen mod or even a Muiu would be nice
So, I've been lied to by Asus' chosen retailers, and I've seen people who placed orders after me receive tracking numbers, while my own shipments are indefinitely backordered. It seems I'm not alone in that.
I have no choice but to cancel my orders in a week from now, because I'll be out of the country with my family for two weeks, and nobody will be around to collect deliveries. Given that the 48 hours we'll be spending in airports and airplanes was one of the key reasons I decided to buy the Transformer now rather than waiting for something better, I almost certainly won't be buying one on my return -- once my orders are cancelled, it's game over for Asus.
I was utterly disgusted to see that instead of apologizing for the inconvenience, or giving even vague information as to when they'll be providing more stock, Asus had the audacity to post about how we "love" them on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/asus...mer-sold-out-in-north-america/194700557240017
There's plenty of info in the US retail availability thread, but it's hidden in 400 pages of posts. Hence, I thought it might be a good idea to collect together all of the unhappy, would-be customers who've been lied to and mistreated by Asus' launch partners in one place, where Asus can see that love is not an emotion we're feeling right now, and that we're extremely unhappy about how we've been treated.
Air your grievances here. Have you been lied to? Have you been passed over for shipments by retailers, when those who ordered after you are receiving their tablets?
Tell Asus exactly how you feel. If you have plans to cancel your order after a certain date, let us know when. And if the way you've been treated by their retailers has persuaded you not to do business with them or Asus again, don't be shy about saying so.
Personally, Asus has 7 days to get my tablet to a retailer who will actually ship it to me. If they don't, I won't be buying an Asus product, ever again.
I placed my order around 3AM with amazon, as of now, still no activity on the order... while people who ordered after me got it.
I think it may have to do with the fact that my order showed up as coming from Target.com/ITC or something but now its showing amazon LLC.
Then I placed order with Datavision, who over sold and have gotten the money back.
Then I placed order with TigerDirect and they, it seems over sold as well and have been hearing and reading lies from them since yesterday.
Asus screwed up big time!
So you're blaming Asus? Awesome. Doesn't sound like you've been an early adopter before.
You aren't alone Knox; I ordered mine at the same time as you did. I'm pretty sure we were chatting in the IRC room while we were waiting for it to get released.
I talked to an Amazon rep yesterday who guaranteed me the product would arrive on the estimated delivery date. I talked to another one today after the shipping info wasn't updated and that rep basically stated the previous rep lied to me and that I would not be receiving my product as expected.
I'm throughly upset because I could have ordered it from another retailer at the time and received my TF tomorrow or Friday.
I'm not sure if I'm going to cancel now and get the Acer or wait a week to see if I actually get the TF.
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Asus didn't provide sufficient supply for the launch, have provided no information on when more stock is expected, tried to spread what tiny stock they had across too many retailers, didn't require their retailers to sell first-come first-served, and failed to supply *any* accessories or 32GB tablets at all.
I'd say they shoulder a very large part of the blame.
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" hey guys retailers lied to us and mistreated us! let's blame Asus!"
You two sure are American.
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Actually, I'm not. I'm British. And raised in Asia. But feel free to throw around childish stereotypes in any other thread you like, just not this one, please.
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Personally, Asus has 7 days to get my tablet to a retailer who will actually ship it to me. If they don't, I won't be buying an Asus product, ever again.
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this alone makes me believe you are crying over spilt milk.
its a early launch. supplies are limited. all asus did was supply the product to retailers. how the retailers handle it is their business not asus's. if you're that hardcore about raging over the retailers that you wont buy another asus product, you have issues.
To be quite honest, I'm sure that ASUS has given away more free tablets to reviewers, contests (both twitter and facebook), college student "representatives", etc. than they sold... how exactly are they making money on these tablets? LOL
Have you even read the engadget post? it clearly states it's unknown whether it's because of limited supplies or huge demand or both.
Asus had already said there would be limited supplies in a statement, and the point still stands, if they had built up stock first you still wouldn't have it now since it wouldn't have been released for a while.
In essence you're just sour grapes because some people got one of the limited supplies and you didn't. And if you can't have it no one can have it.
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this alone makes me believe you are crying over spilt milk.
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If you read my entire post, you would see I have no choice but to cancel my order in 7 days, because there will be nobody in the country to receive shipments.
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To be quite honest, I'm sure that ASUS has given away more free tablets to reviewers, contests (both twitter and facebook), college student "representatives", etc. than they sold... how exactly are they making money on these tablets? LOL
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Yup, and each of those came with a dock, while they haven't sold a single dock in the entire US market.
i bet you will be buying another asus product because they make many components for other companies
I think the main problem was the race to launch first, certainly in the UK. In the US the Xoom has been out for a while, which is why I think Asus wanted to concentrate more on the UK (makes a nice change!) so that they could pip Motorola to the post with the UK launch. The Xoom was originally set to come out on the 9th April, and at the last minute Asus managed to get a limited number of units out to uk shops around the 6th, although I didn't discover this until after that date.
Truth is that I would have bought the first tegra2 tablet that came out in the UK, and I had been waiting (mistakenly) for the xoom on the 9th. On that day I got out of bed, went down to PC World and tried to get one, only to be told they had been delayed until middle of June. A couple of days later after reading more about the transformer I found out a local Comet had one in stock so I bought it. A few days later I noticed PC world had the Xoom in.
My point of this very long story is that this is just happening this time round with this set of tablets because the manufacturers are rushing to get their tablets out to the masses and be first. I think everything will settle down soon and people won't feel 'lied' to once the availability is sorted out. Asus could have given a more solid date, granted, but like seshmaru said, if they'd held on to stocks until they'd had enough to go round, then nobody would currently have one.
You can't really blame Asus for the retailer's actions. If Asus hadn't given them a solid date or numbers of shipments expected, then the retailers shouldn't really be advertising the product for sale, or should at least inform the customer they aren't definite dates. They only make the things, without having their own entire distribution arm like Apple, they can't control what retailers do!
Still sucks for you man going on holiday! I've been there, waiting for gadgets to come before a trip away and they haven't arrived, it's not fun!
Think on the positive side man, if the only reason you bought this was to use for a trip, then buy yourself a good book instead, and bam! Saved yourself £400! I'd invest that money into training a monkey butler.
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i bet you will be buying another asus product because they make many components for other companies
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Can you people go troll some other thread, please?
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@Therm, I said you two, referring to dot and knox.
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So you're blaming Asus? Awesome. Doesn't sound like you've been an early adopter before.
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Who else is responsible for this fiasco?
It's not like they didn't see this coming after they botched the UK launch.
AT LEAST a few folks in the UK got the keyboard docks - from everything I've seen in the US "launch", no one received a keyboard dock.
So yes, Asus, how do you "launch" a product with such insufficient stock - and with ZERO keyboard docks - which btw is the PRIMARY feature that sets your "Transformer" apart from other tablets?
There would be a lot more happy customers if, following the UK debacle, Asus *announced* that the US launch would happen in May - or June - or whatever it takes to actually have an ample supply on on hand - and oh yeah KEYBOARDS too!
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Forgot to add, ASUS is the one that announced the launch on 4/26 - with a list of retailers on their own page. Yet several of those retailers (sears.com, staples.com, officemax.com, officedepot.com etc) NEVER even received stock.
How do you announce a launch date - and retailers - but don't supply those retailers with any units?
Yes, in my opinion, that falls on Asus.
I think blaming the retailer and the supplier can be split into two separate debates.
The retailer, reseller, gougers, etc; that is just the nature of the business. How they handle their customer is independent to each store and that is where your money speaks loudest.
Amazon I feel did an amazing job. Their order system processed all orders with no crashes up until they were sold out. Once sold out, they site updated to backorder. When you place an order, you assume the risk of delays and backorders. How heavy handed you want to be on a company is up to you but does not change the fact that when you make a purchase, you play by their rules.
As for ASUS, I think they did a terrible job. They put one posting of low quantity on facebook for UK. Then for US post, they have a huge banner that says "On shelves on 4/26". There was not a single item on any retailer's shelves. There were no communication with their retailers to give them constant updates on status. They release the Keyboard Dock but have absolutely no availability. Communication was terrible to their customer and their retailer which are their customers as well.
ASUS needs to get their act together if they want to attempt to compete with Apple. Hell, even a multibillion dollar company like Apple makes mistakes, but they sure know how to launch a product and connect with their consumers and retailers (strict pricing, etc).
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Who else is responsible for this fiasco?
It's not like they didn't see this coming after they botched the UK launch.
AT LEAST a few folks in the UK got the keyboard docks - from everything I've seen in the US "launch", no one received a keyboard dock.
So yes, Asus, how do you "launch" a product with such insufficient stock - and with ZERO keyboard docks - which btw is the PRIMARY feature that sets your "Transformer" apart from other tablets?
There would be a lot more happy customers if, following the UK debacle, Asus *announced* that the US launch would happen in May - or June - or whatever it takes to actually have an ample supply on on hand - and oh yeah KEYBOARDS too!
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"I can't get one so no one should get one"
btw UK launchdate didn't have the dock either, and the dock is an accessory, accessories are released at a later date more often.
If they had waited the Iconia a500 would possibly have gained momentum, (which it didn't, but it could've) this is the best strategy for Asus seeing as demand is far exceeding the supply, it's been a raging success for them. Besides they promised a Q1 launch around march last year, at least they stuck to their word without any launch delays.
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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It depends on how well both the One and SGS4 sell for AT&T. If the One holds its own AT&T will keep it at $199 for as long as they can. LG's having a launch event for the OG Pro on May 1 and AT&T usually carries their high-end devices. An iP5 is supposed to be available in June. There's going to be a lot on the shelves at AT&T this summer. Based on One inventory they've stocked or commited to if it's not making its numbers expect some discounting after 30-60 days. And usually the discounting starts with the VARS; at least that's what happened with the DNA. If you find a cheaper price at a (reputable) VAR AT&T will match it over the phone.
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$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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Sigh at least say AFTER 2 year contract. I know on t-mobile the The One is $579 outright. $99 upfront +$20 a month if you choose to pay it off over 24 months.
Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones
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Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones
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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?
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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?
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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing.
Releasing with the S4 isn't awful. That's the competition and people will pick what they want. Both were announced early enough ahead of time we all have discussed and watched every youtube video on them. The DNA if I am right came out in november/december time frame... it's nice, but the One is clearly better... and just 4-5months later? I'd be pissed.. and there, you are screwing your own costomers.
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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing."
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And I'm sure all the claims being made are totally without bias and Samsung will be treated fairly. And the supposed event occurred last year with the SGS3's launch and the "kids" weren't hired by Samsung they were working for a third party marketing company.
"HTC’s operations have weakened, impacting Taiwan’s export figures, resulting in 5 successive months of negative growth and seriously affecting Taiwan’s economic growth. In order to stop the decline, Minister of Economic Affairs Shih Yen-shiang today (the 10th) called for his fellow countrymen to “Affirm and support HTC, starting with loving and using their mobile phones”. This statement prompted backlash on the internet,*PTT*saw countless posts slammed, criticizing HTC for considering themselves to be a mainland Chinese brand and belittling Taiwan, [with netizens] unable to agree with Shih Yen-shiang’s point of view.Shih Yen-shiang revealed that he and the Vice-Economic Minister both use HTC phones, that the government has a close relationship with HTC, provides assistance, and hopes that everyone will unite in supporting domestic companies. Netizens didn’t show any appreciation, wit some people with angrily digging out HTC chairman Cher Wang’s past statements, pointing to her having said “HTC is an indigenous Chinese brand”, so Taiwanese officials now calling for the masses to support a ‘non-Taiwanese brand’ is truly unpersuasive."
http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stor...ent-calls-on-citizens-to-buy-support-htc.html
Due to relatively high inflation rate I think the trend will no more be so good.
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less than 150. a good price
After reading all the bad news yesterday about HTC (people leaving the company, articles about a "future without HTC", etc): I opened my dutch news app this morning when drinking my coffee and saw this:
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3481460/htc-one-vijf-miljoen-keer-verkocht.html
I expected to see an article about the Galaxy S4 being sold 10m times in the first month, but this nice dutch website preffered to focus on what HTC has done. Apparently, HTC has sold 5 million One's in "one month". So it has done 50% of what Samsung has done in the last month. And I guess that doesn't include what HTC has sold in March/April.
The weird thing is, I always read my twitter feed first. I have not seen a single report about this anywhere on Twitter. On the other side, NU.nl is a big and serious website here in the Netherlands.
What do you guys think? I am very happy to see this and it's far above my expectations. If this is true, HTC is not dying anytime soon!
Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
I'm happy for them and hope they'll get through the rough time they are atm so they can continue making amazing phones!
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Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
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its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
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its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
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High demand with nothing to sell is still not a sale though, unless they are also including unfulfilled orders by their carrier partners and local stores~~ The phone has been launched in my country a whole month ago, and not a single store has more than 1 unit for sale at a time, with some stores getting 5 units per 3 days (that's on the high end) >.>
Making my 1-to-1 change for a faulty NFC chip all the more painful, as I'll have to wait 1-2 weeks for HTC to bring in stock ):
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you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
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I didn't miss it, though I forgot to mention it in the first post. I'm not sure about the 10m from Samsung either, are those sold or orders done by shops/carriers?
Either way, I was expecting this exact message but with a 1 instead of the 5 million. Even if it's just orders done by carriers/shops, it's far above my expectations!
And it's good HTC are doubling their production, it's indeed awfull they often have 1-2 units per store also in the Netherlands.
I think samsung is aiming the same, 10 million orders but not all of them sold; they're still in storage of retailers / carriers.
Also when i went for accessory shopping, I was told everytime that they didn't have any since they got such few phones (1 - 5 maybe a day). saying it was not worth it yet buying accessories for such a scarce phone. it affects a whole deal.
5 million since launch, not just the last month:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/23/4358378/htc-one-5-million-smartphone-sales
Very respectable number to be honest, sure Samsung has double that in less time but people wanted another S3 and well, thats basically what they got.
Learned people got the One and now word of how good it is, is spreading.
But HTC, why did you release the HTC First? /sigh
5 million Seems like a stretch actually... Supply is still a serious issue..... The unlocked versions in US have been in backorder status for the entire month.... HTC ONE launch has been delayed by over 1 month in most Asia countries....
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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amazing to see htc do so well after all the production delays!
i think this is the first time im hearing them declare how much they sold.
go htc go!!! brilliant stuff
When executives start BS'ing you know your company has issues.
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If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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i think if supplies are enough,it will surpass S4 sales.here in riyadh,One were sold out in two days in all carriers/online stores here..and we are not so lucky to get one..they told us stocks will be avail in 2 to 7 days ..just sayin
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When executives start BS'ing you know your company has issues.
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And how do you know they're BS'ing? Do you have your own sources within HTC, or are you just pulling stuff from the place where the sun don't shine?
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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HTC One is selling good in Turkey aswell. I saw many people who doesn't even know HTC but after seeing review unit they are amazed by quality.
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For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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Exactly. HTC sells to the carriers so those are their sales numbers. They have already made their money.The carriers and other suppliers sell to us, and their numbers reflect that.
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Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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bnbasarir said:
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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You are completely right. I would add thought that more of those 5 million units are in consumers hands then the 10 million from Samsung. HTC is pushing this phone out fast. Last one I got was made 6 days before it came into my hands. I would imagine there is a decent stockpile of S4 in some places where I do not think that is true of the ONE.
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mnshzz said:
Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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So then where are these units. What warehouse are they hiding in? Why did some guy pay $800 on ebay for my ONE? No one has stock of the HTC ONE. There is no surplus anywhere that I have heard. I have only heard their are not enough to go around.
Visited Amazon.com today and was presented with an offer to pay 25% down on any HDX tablet with 3 additional payments occoring evey 90 days. No credit check, no interest.
Been on the edge of ordering the 8.9 HDX for awhile and this pushed me over the edge. Should arrive tomorrow.
Apparently this offer isn't available to anyone, as some have mentioned that going to this link gives an error page rather than the offer page. Figured it was worth posting it in case anyone wanted to take advantage of it.
Amazon Payment Deal
If the link doesn't work for some reason, try just visiting the main homepage of Amazon.com
Thank you for this!!! This helped my decision as well.
Funny, I can't help but wonder if I'm partly responsible for this new promo. I doubt it, but I just had it out with Amazon over offering their try before you buy the new kindles to random customers that have absolutely no interest in buying the tablet, as opposed to previous Kindle owners that would clearly be interested. The long-winded email was delivered directly to their marketing department.
Unfortunately in my case, the fiasco with their customer service 4 times in a row was enough to return my 7" Hdx and cancel my prime. Mostly just me sticking to my principles at this point, but it's nice that they gave some people other options.
Edit: although, it's certainly much easier to believe, considering the activity around this forum, that they just haven't been selling very well
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Thanks for the info.
But for my account, there is no 25% off, instead of 4x25% of full price payment, each delay for 90 days.
You agree to pay the full price of the qualifying Kindle Fire HDX device you selected in four equal quarterly payments. No interest or finance charges apply to this offer. Any interest, finance charges or fees assessed by the issuer of the payment method to which payments are charged may still apply. Any applicable tax and shipping charges will be assessed when you check out and will be due in full when you make your purchase. Your payment schedule is:
Payment Due Date
Initial Payment Purchase Date
First Payment 90 Days from the Purchase Date
Second Payment 180 Days from the Purchase Date
Third Payment 270 Days from the Purchase Date
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tititake said:
Thanks for the info.
But for my account, there is no 25% off, instead of 4x25% of full price payment, each delay for 90 days.
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When I said "25% down", I meant a 25% downpayment, not a 25% off deal. Sorry if that was confusing.
craighwk said:
When I said "25% down", I meant a 25% downpayment, not a 25% off deal. Sorry if that was confusing.
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Oh, I think it's my problem, could tell the difference between down and off, English not so well.
Thanks for sharing. :good:
DontPushButtons said:
Edit: although, it's certainly much easier to believe, considering the activity around this forum, that they just haven't been selling very well
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As best I can tell, they seem to be selling pretty well, however most of the people who would normally be interested in rooting a 7" tablet likely have already gone to the Nexus 7 (which also seems to defeat the purpose of unlocking the bootloader in the first place seeing as they get updates before pretty much anyone else, but I digress...).
Bezos has said the intent was to sell the devices as close to cost as possible. Considering all of these occasional discounts and alternate payment arrangements, I wonder if they're seeing a reduction in their parts costs and are, instead of waiting to do a full-on price cut, instead doing these half-measures to coax out some additional sales for the holiday season and then just make them permanent later on.
I jumped on it to get the 8.9 HDX 64g with Verizon 4G.
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As best I can tell, they seem to be selling pretty well, however most of the people who would normally be interested in rooting a 7" tablet likely have already gone to the Nexus 7 (which also seems to defeat the purpose of unlocking the bootloader in the first place seeing as they get updates before pretty much anyone else, but I digress...).
Bezos has said the intent was to sell the devices as close to cost as possible. Considering all of these occasional discounts and alternate payment arrangements, I wonder if they're seeing a reduction in their parts costs and are, instead of waiting to do a full-on price cut, instead doing these half-measures to coax out some additional sales for the holiday season and then just make them permanent later on.
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Well, updates to Aosp also means updates to most roms eventually, which is also good stuff. I have an n4, and I'm always excited to see what the devs do with new android releases. Further polishing updates from Google, so I can understand the Nexus ecosystem.
I would be surprised to find they're selling enough to actually cut the price of the Hdx though. It's a very niche tablet, but then again Amazon has a lot of users. Really could've gotten a lot more sales if they allowed sideloading Google services though. But in the long term, it does lock more people into Amazon services, so we'll see how it plays out for them.
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how can i get this deal? and yes i have a amazon account.
sicmadek said:
how can i get this deal? and yes i have a amazon account.
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Click the link in the first post of the thread.
king_xerxes said:
I jumped on it to get the 8.9 HDX 64g with Verizon 4G.
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This deal works on the 4g models? I never tested it, but was considering it and then in the fine print it said wifi models only. Maybe I should have checked to see if the 4g models worked. Either way, I jumped on the 32gig 8.9" model. I've been pretty happy with my 7" HD and was wanting a slightly larger screen. Even with my Nexus 10, I find myself using my smaller tablet(s) more often. Maybe time to sell the Nexus 10 to cover this cost!
Z_Black said:
This deal works on the 4g models? I never tested it, but was considering it and then in the fine print it said wifi models only. Maybe I should have checked to see if the 4g models worked. Either way, I jumped on the 32gig 8.9" model. I've been pretty happy with my 7" HD and was wanting a slightly larger screen. Even with my Nexus 10, I find myself using my smaller tablet(s) more often. Maybe time to sell the Nexus 10 to cover this cost!
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Seems to work with any HDX. Either the 7" or 8.9 in all of their various configurations.
As for how to get the deal, make sure you are logged into your Amazon account when you click the link in my original post. I have seen some situations where people are just being told they are not eligible, for whatever reasons.
Restrictions per Android central:
There are a few restrictions, though. Folks from Washington, DC or Florida need not apply, and you have to have been an Amazon customer for two years. In addition, you need to have a credit card on file that expires no earlier than March 2014*— no debit cards are accepted.
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Z_Black said:
This deal works on the 4g models? I never tested it, but was considering it and then in the fine print it said wifi models only. Maybe I should have checked to see if the 4g models worked. Either way, I jumped on the 32gig 8.9" model. I've been pretty happy with my 7" HD and was wanting a slightly larger screen. Even with my Nexus 10, I find myself using my smaller tablet(s) more often. Maybe time to sell the Nexus 10 to cover this cost!
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Yes, but It was the At&T not Verizon. Sorry.
I decided to give this a try as well. With Prime I will have it by Tuesday. I have held off on any of the Kindle devices, but after getting and being really happy with the Nook HD+ I figured for the initial $125 out of pocket the HDX 8.9 was worth checking out.
Well, I'm pulling the trigger as well thanks to this thread and deal.....thanks for sharing O/P!!!
I do have a question though, not that rooting won't be in my future with this device but I'm just curious if the Kindle 'market' is any better than the Nook Market or is everything a purchase in that one too?
Pushed me over the edge also... went for the 8.9 64Gb. They made it irresistible. Here's hoping I can put my existing apps on it!
Rich
dorpmuller said:
Pushed me over the edge also... went for the 8.9 64Gb. They made it irresistible. Here's hoping I can put my existing apps on it!
Rich
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Man I have my fingers and toes crossed for us