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Samsung is Introducing its TouchWiz 4.0 UI to Honeycomb, nothing Really Interesting you will think, but watch this:
2 Interesting Points here:
1:36 - Scrollable Settings Menu with more Toggles - Do Want.
3:00 - "Mini Apps" as Apps you can Toggle over any other App - This is actually a Cool step to Multi-Window Multitasking and i think its Extremely Useful
The rest of the Video is Garbage, but these two Things - I really hope our Modders will port this to our Xooms or it will be introduced as a Honeycomb 3.2 or later Feature.
What do you think?
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Kevterminator said:
Samsung is Introducing its TouchWiz 4.0 UI to Honeycomb, nothing Really Interesting you will think, but watch this:
2 Interesting Points here:
1:36 - Scrollable Settings Menu with more Toggles - Do Want.
3:00 - "Mini Apps" as Apps you can Toggle over any other App - This is actually a Cool step to Multi-Window Multitasking and i think its Extremely Useful
The rest of the Video is Garbage, but these two Things - I really hope our Modders will port this to our Xooms or it will be introduced as a Honeycomb 3.2 or later Feature.
What do you think?
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The mini apps does look cool but I have a feeling there will not be any widespread development support for it. We will have to wait and see.
They have some nice ideas in there but they really made the OS look "cartoonish". I wish they would leave the stock look and just add the extra features. That video was obviously sped up in some shots. The OS is fast but things like flash on a website don't play as smooth as the video showed. Overall the Galaxy guys are getting some features that may make us Xoom users a little jealous.
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touchwiz ux has already been ported to the iconia and the transformer....... maybe a xoom port is neccesary? Might have to giver a go and see if I can force it to play nice with our xoom's
Seems much smoother than the Xoom interface.... Samsung are really putting effort into UI development, I'll give em that!
the 'mini-apps' can be done kind of similarly using an app called Wave Launcher. But there are issues with having the 'gesture' from the bottom of the screen. When I had it installed on the xoom.. it effectively rendered the center bottom of the screen useless. The wave launcher was hogging that area looking for input to start the mini app launcher and so any app that have buttons in the center bottom (like MoboPlayer) wouldn't work very well or at all. The app (mobo) worked fine.. but any buttons in the center bottom wouldn't work (wanted to clarify) due to Wave Launcher 'covering' them up.
It took me awhile to figure out it was Wave Launcher doing it... I thought my xoom was broken.
Anyways, just an FYI.
im gonna try and bring tw ux to the xoom, is anybody interested if I post it up here when I'm done?
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im gonna try and bring tw ux to the xoom, is anybody interested if I post it up here when I'm done?
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post it I will try it out
will do, just about to flash my xoom now....... see if i can make a brick
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im gonna try and bring tw ux to the xoom, is anybody interested if I post it up here when I'm done?
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Indeed im interested, please Try
I may be up for testing this if you can get it to boot. Hardware is close enough to the other models that have it ported. Bluetooth and wifi may be an issue.
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ya, its not as simple as first thought, but its booting...... now for wifi, and bluetooth
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ya, its not as simple as first thought, but its booting...... now for wifi, and bluetooth
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Figured wifi and Bluetooth would be a problem. So it boots? Is it smooth or running choppy and is sound working? I didn't expect it to on first boot.
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actually seems smoother than the xoom roms. I ported the full 10.1 rom. Sound works, though I'm on a wifi xoom, so I can't say anything about 3g operability. If and when I get wifi up I'll post it for people to try out.
OK, I will flash it as soon as you release it...
or you could share your work with the tiamat team, that would be even more awesome.
I'm on wifi only as well shoot me a link in a pm and I will take a stab at getting wifi going. Two heads are better than one lol.
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I am also interested in this as well and would be willing to test. I have a 3g Xoom but could really care less about the 3g radio since I don't use it; I use my Xoom WiFi only.
would definitely try it out!
however i think it would be interesting to have these extra features ported over the Tiamat Rom. are you able to remove these extra features and place them in an existing rom/stock?
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actually seems smoother than the xoom roms. I ported the full 10.1 rom. Sound works, though I'm on a wifi xoom, so I can't say anything about 3g operability. If and when I get wifi up I'll post it for people to try out.
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Can you upload please, you can find some help from alot people here, I dream about it all day
haha, I know its been a while sorry guys..... with 3.2 coming out and other stuff in my real life I haven't had a ton of time to work on it. Still can't get wifi to work, and as an extra kick in the ass now the changes I made are causing a softbrick:-( but there are 2 other guys working on it too. And I'll have most of the day tomorrow to wrestle with this little bit*h and hopefully get her going. And crackmulah, that actually might be a good way if I can't get wifi to work that will be the way I go with it. I'm just trying for a "pure" port if possible
Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.
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Thanks.
I'm kind of disappointed no one seems to be interested in multi window. I think it's a killer feature.
Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.
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Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.
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Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher. So they claim the muli-screens are part of the (their name for it) framework. All I know is I wish the multi-screens and floating windows could be part of Android so multi-screens and floating windows could be on all android devices because they really help productivity.
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Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop. The touchwiz version doesn't have the same compatibility problems because the app developer must integrate support into his app, instead of it working automatically.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher.
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They are referring to touchscreen as the visible elements (adjustments to notifications, touchwiz launcher, etc.) and in the technical sense. They have only hidden these elements, not removed them (except for the launcher and default apps). The ROM is still based off of a touchwiz ROM, and not AOSP, hence the multi window options remain.
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Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.
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It'd be better on n7. I could watch twitch/use yaairc as desired!
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I don't see the appeal really. Unless on a Tablet. Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5". other than watching video while doing other things which we can already do. what else you need to do really that you can't just switch to
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If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.
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If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.
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I'm not begging but +1
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop.
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Wasn't it just moveable 'windows' that Google was against?
If you want to port touchwiz frame work over to the nexus. You do that then I will short the multi window!
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Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5"
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I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.
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I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.
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While personally I don't much of a point for this on small screens - it still stands that the smaller screens of today are still going on resolutions that used to be tablet domain, Now that the lines between tablets, phablets and tablets have been getting much more blurry - and many of all 3 are based on same SoCs (Both due to SoC & auxiliary size shrinking and avg phone size growing) - this function should hopefully be revived.
Especially considering the developement an outspread of highly capable android tablets during the last year.
Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
Settings>My Device>Lock Screen
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starmanj said:
Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
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I think this is a limitation from Touchwiz. I don't have CM on my phone atm to confirm, but I know that the lockscreen Pin lock behavior is different on the Nexus 7. Meaning the key difference is the fact that on my Nexus 7 I can still use other widgets (Google Now or HD Widgets) on the Pin lock, whereas SGS4 TW does not allow that...
Nope. Wrong. Try adding a passcode and then try adding a camera widget.
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Settings>My Device>Lock Screen
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I think this is a limitation from Touchwiz. I don't have CM on my phone atm to confirm, but I know that the lockscreen Pin lock behavior is different on the Nexus 7. Meaning the key difference is the fact that on my Nexus 7 I can still use other widgets (Google Now or HD Widgets) on the Pin lock, whereas SGS4 TW does not allow that...
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This is correct.... Just tested this on PAC ROM and I could access the camera and other lock screen widgets with both a pattern and pin lock
Right, but is there a ROM or tool to make this work on a Galaxy S4? captivatingtab did you try this on your tab or S4? Also I don't use Touchwiz, I use Nova, which still has this limitation-- so I think it's the ATT Samsung ROM.
It amazes me that ATT/Samsung/Google could put out a ROM that (at least for me) is so buggy and misses key features. Don't want to get into the host of bugs I've found, just trying to get to camera quickly...
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Right, but is there a ROM or tool to make this work on a Galaxy S4? captivatingtab did you try this on your tab or S4? Also I don't use Touchwiz, I use Nova, which still has this limitation-- so I think it's the ATT Samsung ROM.
It amazes me that ATT/Samsung/Google could put out a ROM that (at least for me) is so buggy and misses key features. Don't want to get into the host of bugs I've found, just trying to get to camera quickly...
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It is the problem with Touchwiz, no matter what custom launcher you run, Lockscreen is still controlled by Touchwiz. Nova(or any other launcher) only replaces the default Touch wiz launchers Touchwiz Home or Easy Launcher, so you are still using Touchwiz with Nova installed, just not the launcher it provides.
This is a Touchwiz problem, having used an HTC One you can access 4 different apps including the Camera from the lock screen as your dock is visible on the lock screen.
If you flash a AOSP rom this problem will most likely go away.
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Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
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There is an alternative lock screen app called LockerPro in the Play store does what you ask, as well a providing lock screen notifications. I think you may still need to enter your PIN before accessing the camera if the timeout has expired, but its still a shortcut. There is a free version called LockerPro Lite that you can try out.
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I tried lockerpro, it doesn't work unless you enter pin as well. Thanks for information, looks like Touchwiz is way behind times-- Iphone has had this for a while, and even before it was on IOS there were Cydia apps that could do this. I'm astonished Android can't do this.
So I guess I have to throw out the AT&T ROM to get rid of Touchwiz?
I have to agree with the OP. I came from an iPhone, and I actually like touchwiz. But not having the ability to use lockscreen widgets with security options is pretty ridiculous.
It should be the users choice to have certain functions available without a password/lock. I understand Samsung attempted to make the device more secure and prevent "uninformed" users from making mistakes; but It should be our choice what we put out there. IMHO.
I not a developer by far, and a long-time lurker of XDA, I wish I had the ability to change Touchwiz to include this.
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Thanks for information, looks like Touchwiz is way behind times-- Iphone has had this for a while, and even before it was on IOS there were Cydia apps that could do this. I'm astonished Android can't do this.
So I guess I have to throw out the AT&T ROM to get rid of Touchwiz?
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Lets clear some things up...
First and foremost, Touchwiz is the name of the User Interface that we see. Its not an application, it is not a launcher (Nova) or anything, just the User Interface. With that said, Touchwiz features are the extra gimmicks added to the phone like Air View and whatnot. This is the ROM given by Samsung as stock, it has nothing to do with Android itself. So comparing Apple to Oranges (Samsung) is different than comparing iOS to Android (which you are not doing).
So "being behind on times" has nothing to do with Android itself. If you were to load a AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROM is it the same? Running AOSP on the phone is a different experience than running Touchwiz. It is closer to the Nexus stock experience than using Samsung stock ROM and is what Google wants as Android. So if you want to compare Android and state that your astonished it doesn't do something, then test it on AOSP based ROM and see if Android could do it.
As it has been confirmed anyways that what you want can be done running an AOSP ROM...
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This is correct.... Just tested this on PAC ROM and I could access the camera and other lock screen widgets with both a pattern and pin lock
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nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
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nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
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But as the consumer you have the choice on what you buy. If you want something that has X set of features you can buy it (Nexus for example), if you want other features you buy a different phone. This is not unlike buying a car - most cars (these days) have Bluetooth, but the implementations vary greatly.
You bought a phone with Android, and most stores let you compare dozens of models side by side. If Camera on the lock screen is a requirement, it is easy to test drive to find one that supports this.
My phone is rooted and stock - it has no lag and works fantastically well with superior battery life to any smartphone i have owned. Touchwiz is not perfect, but neither is stock android IMO.
Yes, this is off topic, but the point is that if you want only one way to do something, and only one way, then Apple is for you. I recommend iphones to the technically challenged and older people - they can't get lost. The home button is always there and bails them out from any screen. And I can always help them get to settings and menus are 100% consistent. These people don't want widgets and don't want to do any customization, they want simple consistent experience. Android gives choices and that may mean that one phone has a feature that another phone does not. But then there are 3rd party apps that usually step in to fix things.
Widget locker may let you put the camera on the lockscreen - has anyone tried that?
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Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
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Kjay's framework allows it. You'll need to be on a BMEA ROM to use iy though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42350844
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starmanj said:
nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
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The nature of the game... Open-Source...
I haven't had any battery drains... in fact when I go to bed at night, I have ~50% left with the same usage I had on the S3 @ 10%. GoldenEye ROM solved all my other qualms with TouchWiz. I did find it annoying that I cannot use my widgets on the lockscreen that I removed my pattern/pin lock. I generally prefer running AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMOD, but I am waiting for the release of the Google SGS4 to see if the stability improves.
Yes I am waiting for the Google S4 ROM as well. I have CM on all my HP Touchpads so am a bit leary of quality of the device drivers for S4 at this point. The official Google version will fix that.
Theoretically, couldn't someone just find the files for the lockscreen and edit the code to allow it? I mean, it's like natively there already - right?
I haven't tried any custom ROMs, in fact i am pretty close to what the OP is describing, coming from an iPhone and having the learning experience. But I am really bummed I can't do it. lol
So bottom line is there any ROM that will allow the use of camera shortcuts or lockscreen widgets while having a secure lockscreen?
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So bottom line is there any ROM that will allow the use of camera shortcuts or lockscreen widgets while having a secure lockscreen?
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TW no, AOSP yes.
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Theoretically, couldn't someone just find the files for the lockscreen and edit the code to allow it? I mean, it's like natively there already - right?
I haven't tried any custom ROMs, in fact i am pretty close to what the OP is describing, coming from an iPhone and having the learning experience. But I am really bummed I can't do it. lol
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Theoretically, yes. I am interested in this myself. I started programming a year ago and haven't had time to learn the ends and outs for Android to try yet. I am hoping someone with greater talents might be able to do it...
My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
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I want it more than you!
No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.
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You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
ilayron8 said:
I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
nrage23 said:
The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.
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Ok, have fun with your S Pen apps.
C2Q said:
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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I completly agree with you.
S Pen Apps are nice, but I don't use them often. I'm using my S Pen to draw, to write things quickly (yeah, an S Pen app but can replaced by an App from the Play Store) and to control easily the Note. That's a lot of good things, but they all can work on CM.
Multi Windows is the problem. Yes, there are few nice apps that can replace it, but far from TW's feature. But i guess that when the developers will want to bring it as an App, they'll to it.
C2Q said:
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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It would probably help you out to go to the Note 3 forums to see how AOSP roms are functioning since they are similar.
Look at that guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIwfyo4nHQ
I know it's not CM (Omni will probably wont get to our device anytime soon), I just want you to see that it's possible...
Who knows..maybe if CM comes to the TabPro, we might be able to get it since the hardware is practically the same.
Options are always nice. Some people (like me) are considering buy the Note 10.1 instead of the Tab Pro because of the 3gb RAM and because you can get a 32 GB version now. Couldn't care less about the pen! Would very much like some stock ROM options.
ilayron8 said:
GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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ilayron8 said:
I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Why do you care so much about how someone else uses their tablet? If you don't want a stock ROM, don't use it easy.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
Some people...
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Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main p
C2Q said:
Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main purpose is to be a reference to the inner workings
of the emulated arcade machines. This is done both for educational purposes and for preservation
purposes, in order to prevent many historical games from disappearing forever once the hardware they
run on stops working. Of course, in order to preserve the games and demonstrate that the emulated
behavior matches the original, you must also be able to actually play the games. This is considered
a nice side effect, and is not MAME's primary focus.
Drag and drop text supports any app that uses the android system text copy and paste functions. as for as I can tell. Most text fields take it. And you can share screenshots almost anywhere. And what I meat was that very few people prefer the Hosp roms. Hence the giant number of TW Roms in comparison.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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I'm tired of arguing with you...
Go and have fun with your TW and let ME to choose how to use my tablet.
hello, sorry for the sarcastic title I found a device surfing the web an infinite nite 5 stylus which seems to have Implemented similar features of spen TouchWiz in their system and was thinking a if it's possible to Port them to our beloved note 3.
https://youtu.be/qErKRdYrIF0
the features are not entirely listed inthis video but shows what I'm saying.
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itemmaster said:
similar features of spen TouchWiz
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This definitely ain't gonna happen, but I'm still curious, what exactly is the point of porting similar features ?
itemmaster said:
hello, sorry for the sarcastic title I found a device surfing the web an infinite nite 5 stylus which seems to have Implemented similar features of spen TouchWiz in their system and was thinking a if it's possible to Port them to our beloved note 3.
https://youtu.be/qErKRdYrIF0
the features are not entirely listed inthis video but shows what I'm saying.
thanks
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Search and read about SPenCommand (Paid app).
the point of the port is getting more features of spen I believe is what worth of the note series.
about spencommand in Oreo an pie ROMs it doesn't get the device like a note series
im in pie rom AOSP extend
I believe it's time to change my good old note 3