[Q] HD2 EU/International - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Hi Guys,
A friend of mine has handed me a HD2 to install android on. I did it on a US version a couple of years ago. For the EU/International version if he wants a basic ICS or Jellybean rom whats the average system partition and cache size to use? I know it varies from rom to rom, but if I was to go for the NexusHD2 roms what would you recommend.
He also has a 8GB SD Card, so roughly what size should I partition that to? He would definitely rather a NAND rather than SD version. Then I guess once up and running it's just a case of using something like Apps2SD to get the apps on the SD card?
Thanks for the help

if it's eu, it's very hard, if not impossible, to install and run ics/jb roms on nand only. why not just go with dataonext? better than app2sd scripts, you could have 400mb system partition and 1-2gb or 512mb ext4 partition for data. that would be IMO very easy and beter solution than nand only on eu.

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manicdefender said:
Hi Guys,
A friend of mine has handed me a HD2 to install android on. I did it on a US version a couple of years ago. For the EU/International version if he wants a basic ICS or Jellybean rom whats the average system partition and cache size to use? I know it varies from rom to rom, but if I was to go for the NexusHD2 roms what would you recommend.
He also has a 8GB SD Card, so roughly what size should I partition that to? He would definitely rather a NAND rather than SD version. Then I guess once up and running it's just a case of using something like Apps2SD to get the apps on the SD card?
Thanks for the help
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you can install a stock ICS or JB rom with non extra apps inside. The problem with EU and Nand install is the install of your apps. this apps is only in system/apps and with this install your phone is very slow and have reboots. for the EU HD2 is better the nativeSD or DataOnEXT install. for this install methods you must have a fast SD Card with two Partitions. the first is the FAT32/cluster default/primary and the second is the EXT4/cluster default/primary
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[Q] internal storage

For some reason I don't have much memory left in my internal storage.
Already moved almost every app to SD.
What do i do?
Get a TMO US 1024 HD2
What rom are you running? Many of the later builds now incorporate a2sd+ or data2ext which frees up more space. This however involves having to partition your sd card. Check the threads out that have these terms in their titles.
ClydeB1 said:
Get a TMO US 1024 HD2
What rom are you running? Many of the later builds now incorporate a2sd+ or data2ext which frees up more space. This however involves having to partition your sd card. Check the threads out that have these terms in their titles.
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2.2 NAND.
What is TMO US 1024 HD2?
This is getting pretty annoying though. Moved every app to SD, can't install a game because the internal storage is low.
I found a thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
But what are they? Noob here, don't know anything about such things... Is it a rom? Is it as stable as Android nand 2.2? Do I need to start from scratch to install it?
carazy1 said:
2.2 NAND.
What is TMO US 1024 HD2?
This is getting pretty annoying though. Moved every app to SD, can't install a game because the internal storage is low.
I found a thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
But what are they? Noob here, don't know anything about such things... Is it a rom? Is it as stable as Android nand 2.2? Do I need to start from scratch to install it?
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2.2 NAND, but which one? There are many roms using 2.2 NAND.
There are 2 types of HD2, the standard one had 512mb memory and there is a T Mobile USA HD2 which has double ie 1024mb memory.
Yes, that rom is a 2.2 NAND rom (based on Desire HD build). Read the instructions carefully on the first post of that thread and you will have plenty of onboard memory left. You can also try the rom linked in my signature. I still have about 700mb left (I have a 1gb partition on my sd card for the data and apps) after installing a heap of apps.
You will need to start again as that rom uses a different installation method ie CWM instead of using daf.exe to flash via usb.
ClydeB1 said:
2.2 NAND, but which one? There are many roms using 2.2 NAND.
There are 2 types of HD2, the standard one had 512mb memory and there is a T Mobile USA HD2 which has double ie 1024mb memory.
Yes, that rom is a 2.2 NAND rom (based on Desire HD build). Read the instructions carefully on the first post of that thread and you will have plenty of onboard memory left. You can also try the rom linked in my signature. I still have about 700mb left (I have a 1gb partition on my sd card for the data and apps) after installing a heap of apps.
You will need to start again as that rom uses a different installation method ie CWM instead of using daf.exe to flash via usb.
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This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620&highlight=android+2.3
So I lose all my apps that are installed on the SD currently?
Apparently the internal memory on my HD2 is 119 Mb.
I'm surprised that it only has 119 mb total though. It is showing that on Titanium backup. Can't view the total internal storage size normally. Or did this happen due to that rom?
Weird stuff...
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Weird stuff...
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Hi,
No, its not weird. Since european HD2 has only 512MB internal memory, so if you flash a rom it takes about half of your internal storage (depend on a rom you will use). In my case I had only 150mb after flash a rom and partition layout for CWM. That is why I use app2sd+ and installed all apps to sd card's extended partition and moved dalvik cache also to sd and now I have over 160MB free and all apps installed, including some games as well. If you are low on internal storage, you should try that.
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This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620&highlight=android+2.3
So I lose all my apps that are installed on the SD currently?
Apparently the internal memory on my HD2 is 119 Mb.
I'm surprised that it only has 119 mb total though. It is showing that on Titanium backup. Can't view the total internal storage size normally. Or did this happen due to that rom?
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That is the very first NAND rom that was released and was more of a poc than anything else. Yes, it is probably normal after installing that rom that there is little space for apps on internal memory. Even if you use an app like App2sd, you are limited in terms of what can be moved. Try one of the more recent roms which allow you to partition your sd card and have that recognised by the rom as internal memory. That way you can have 1gb memory and no more problems. You can take a backup of your apps and restore them (apps only) after flashing the new rom.
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You can take a backup of your apps and restore them (apps only) after flashing the new rom.
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Oh my god, thank you! was starting to get worried.
Also.. how do I backup again?
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Oh my god, thank you! was starting to get worried.
Also.. how do I backup again?
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Use Titanium Backup or My Backup Root (both available from the market). If your rom is not rooted you will need to use z4root to root the rom first.

[Q] need a little bit of help with clockwork recovery :)

Ok, I've been able to keep up with all the flashing of android on hd2 fairly easy since the beginning almost a year ago. This is the only time I've ever really had a hard time figuring it this thing out.
I have flashed nand miui rom with 250mb partition on my eu hd2 through clockwork recovery. I'm trying to try other builds so I do the same method previously by flashing the zip file on my sd card through clockwork but it always get stuck at "unpacking sdext" files.
Is it because each build require different size partitions? Is it something else? Am I missing a step?
This clockwork stuff is pretty confusing...help is appreciated and thank you all in advanced. Much love.
Yes, different builds do require different partition sizes. A GingerBread build can get by on a 150mb (and possibly less) partition, whereas a Desire HD based build will require a 400mb partition.
so how do i go about doing this? because ive tried to partition my card, but it just erases everything clean even with a backup
mini_robot said:
so how do i go about doing this? because ive tried to partition my card, but it just erases everything clean even with a backup
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The latest cwm partitions are flashed to your NAND and has nothing to do with partitions on your sd card. The sd card partitions are needed to run certain roms on the EU512 device.
To flash a cwm 1.3 partition, you need magldr 1.13, download the partition size you need, boot to usb flasher in magldr and run the daf.exe file from the download. It will wipe data on your phone NAND memory and should have no impact on data on the sd card.
I already have cwm 1.3 and magldr 1.13. I already flashed miui rom. That means I have to use a computer to flash other Roms as well? I thought the point of cwm is so u can flash and switch between roms without a comp?
or does this mean flash through the computer once and then u can switch between roms? sorry if I'm really dumb
You can (as long as you have the same partition size as is needed). I haven't tried it, but I guess you could install the 400mb partition and that should cover all rom types. The only problem is that you then create a larger partition on NAND than may be needed for some roms thereby reducing the internal memory available.
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You can (as long as you have the same partition size as is needed). I haven't tried it, but I guess you could install the 400mb partition and that should cover all rom types. The only problem is that you then create a larger partition on NAND than may be needed for some roms thereby reducing the internal memory available.
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ahhhhhh. I think I will try that and report back to see how it goes. thanks so much for your help. I will try to do the same for other people once I figure this out
I'd be interested to know the answer. Good luck....
welps. I have tried with no luck. I actually ruined my 8gb SD card trying it and had to get a new one.
Ive been able to flash the 400mb partition and have been able to flash any rom but like it has already been stated it affects the amount of internal memory available, not too bad for me as i have a tmous
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mini_robot said:
welps. I have tried with no luck. I actually ruined my 8gb SD card trying it and had to get a new one.
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Ok, send me your 8Go SD if you think it's dead
NAND and SD are two different things. For your SD, just delete/recreate the partition and it will be new again.
Explanation I post somewhere else (hope it wll help you to understand):
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I will try to explain.
I assume you have a non-TMOUS device. So your internal storage (let call it NAND) is 512Mo. This is all what your have.
The CWM xxxMo will be what your allocate for your build.
If you allocate 150 (by flashing CWM 150MB) you will have 512-150=362Mo free.
If you use CWM 400... you will have 112Mo free space.
The build you want to use take a little bit more than 100Mo. So why using CWM400 to fill it with only 100Mo???
You have to use the smallest CWM to put your build in it. This will give you the more storage space after installing the build.
Don't think the more "CWM" you will use the more space you will have. It's exacly the opposite.
Hope you understand. Please take into account that the figures I give are appoximation. Don't complain if instead of 362Mo you have only 300... it's more than enough anyway for most of us.
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So if your first NAND needed a small partition only, you may have to flash again CWM with another partition setting (for ex a 400Mo to fit a desire HD NAND).
Go on the CWM thread to find the version you need (150, 250 and 400 are available). Some thread are also available to modify the config file to make the partition size you want.
By using the 400Mo most build will be flashable... but you will have very little free space and will have to use your SD card (APP2SD or other soft).
I prefer to put everything in NAND for two reasons:
1/ I can remove my SD when I want
2/ I think it's better for battery consumption to not use the SD (but this I don't know, it's just what I think).
i was able to recover the sd card (thanks). anddddd i was able to kind of, sort of, dual boot, two different builds except that one of them has force close issues constantly.
mini_robot said:
i was able to recover the sd card (thanks). anddddd i was able to kind of, sort of, dual boot, two different builds except that one of them has force close issues constantly.
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What are you talking about? You can't dual boot with clockwork
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dung8604 said:
What are you talking about? You can't dual boot with clockwork
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well its not dual booting. i just kind of re-install each build from clockwork.

Increase HD2 internal memory

hi guys new user of HTC HD2 here (previous motorola defy user)
so I got this phone yesterday thru swapping, and this phone is awesome, but I was rather disappointed with the internal memory. Mines got 186mb of application space so I always get memory full prompts. I know there is a mod to increase the size.
I flashed paranoid android this morning and boy is it good looking
I just want to increase my internal memory and Id be happy with it
what's the maximum I can a lot to it?
chachoi said:
hi guys new user of HTC HD2 here (previous motorola defy user)
so I got this phone yesterday thru swapping, and this phone is awesome, but I was rather disappointed with the internal memory. Mines got 186mb of application space so I always get memory full prompts. I know there is a mod to increase the size.
I flashed paranoid android this morning and boy is it good looking
I just want to increase my internal memory and Id be happy with it
what's the maximum I can a lot to it?
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OK first things first,
Are you familiar with the 'stuff' of the HD2? MAGLDR bootloader, ClockworkMod Recovery(CWM)? sd-ext partitions?
well I'm trying to learn this terms but this is gonna take a while I think,
the Previous owner has installed magdlr 1.13 and clockworkmod and I have flashed paranoid android rom this morning. So I do have a recovery
sd-ext partion not so much
**okay okay, you will need to do a lot of research about your device and using it to its full potential; too much that it can't be explained within one post **
but here is a method I found in xda of performing a sd-ext partition within cwm:
> GO to advance and then partition SD card
> Remember this will wipe the sd card so back everything up if need be
> Choose how much space you want, 1024mb is recommended, on the partition then then choose 0MB for swap
>PLEASE NOTE PARTITIONING WILL WIPE THE SD CARD!
>and hey presto your done
> from here you can install link2sd and your set to go. -note, you will need to read about link2sd before use. just search it
There are many benifits of this using EXT-Partition such as you apps will automatically transfer to your partition meaning you will free space on your internal storage!
apologies if there's any misinformation there, quite tired :$
Sent from space..
ah I see, so basically the sd card will be detected as and internal card and I won't face memory full errors whenever uninstalling?
but I can just use link2sd app to transfer apps to sd card manually right?
I was wondering why I only have 186mb of internal memory wherein in GSM arena it says at least 512mb.
what I want to do is a phone modification to increase it, just in case the sd card was corrupted, I still have my apps on the phone memory
thanks for the reply though, if you can add something feel free :victory:
chachoi said:
ah I see, so basically the sd card will be detected as and internal card and I won't face memory full errors whenever uninstalling?
but I can just use link2sd app to transfer apps to sd card manually right?
I was wondering why I only have 186mb of internal memory wherein in GSM arena it says at least 512mb.
what I want to do is a phone modification to increase it, just in case the sd card was corrupted, I still have my apps on the phone memory
thanks for the reply though, if you can add something feel free :victory:
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It says 186Mb because when you flash CWM, you also partition your NAND to run Android. Essentially, the storage you get is 512Mb-CWM partition size, although normally it's lower as there are probably things other than this installed to the NAND.
Thank you
Nigeldg said:
It says 186Mb because when you flash CWM, you also partition your NAND to run Android. Essentially, the storage you get is 512Mb-CWM partition size, although normally it's lower as there are probably things other than this installed to the NAND.
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Hi so are you saying I can increase my phone memory by re-partition? how can you tell me please! id be happy by 300mb at least
chachoi said:
Hi so are you saying I can increase my phone memory by re-partition? how can you tell me please! id be happy by 300mb at least
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Well it depends on the partition size you're currently using. If it's already the minimum for your ROM then no you can't increase the storage by repartitioning the NAND, but if it's any more than the minimum then you can increase this, by reflashing recovery with the correct size. Make a full backup in CWM first though.
so I reflashed 150MB recovery partition and flashed AOKP build by xylograph
now I have 217MB of internal memory
what should I flash so I can have more space?
the less is your recovery partition - more internal memory you get. Minimal recovery partition can be about 100 mb for some light roms I belive. So you can get 50 more mb than you hav now.
You've mentioned 300mb earlier, even if you get your desired 300mb it's gonna get filled up very soon.
I would advise you as was mentioned above to borrow 1gb from your sd card for sd-ext partition. Most of the roms support from the box (without intsalling any additional apps or scripts) sd-ext partition and install apps by default on that partiotion, Paranoid Android does, for instance, actually 80% of the roms do as well...
I don't know if it means anything, but you could look into a US HD2. Its got 1024 mb internal memory! That's double!
ok maybe ill experiment with this sd-ext partition
never had to deal with tgis when I was on defy
try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661892
I installed AOKP in NAND & had only a few 100mb's available, I just used Link2SD & moved most apps/ games to SD. SD has no ext. part. yet. will do it latter when i get a 32gig card, now just testing a 4gig SD

[Q] Size of ext4-partition, space for apps

Hallo together,
this is my first thread in this forum.
I plan to install the NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.3a [NativeSD] on my Leo and I have one principal question:
I must have two partitons on the sd-card, one ext4 and one fat32. Which of those two partitions is the one all android apps are stored/installed on? Is it possible that all apps are installed on fat32-partition? In this case a size of the ext4-partition of 2 GB would be sufficient. But if all apps are installed in the ext4-partition it has to bigger, hasn't it?
Is there an app that manages all apps to be installed on sd-card (fat32-partition)? Is app2sd the right application?
I hope someone can give me some useful advice.
Greetings,
kteamchief
Which of those two partitions is the one all android apps are stored/installed on? ext4, if you installed rom with dataonext
Is there an app that manages all apps to be installed on sd-card (fat32-partition)? link2sd
Is app2sd the right application? yes, but you need to flash a2sd script first
you should choose one of three line above
I prefer to dataonext :laugh:
if the rom is nativesd, (it is) and you install it as nativesd, then there would be no point putting teh apps on teh fat32 partition, since they would already be on the faster ext partition anyway.
if you installed it as nand, then use a script to put teh apps/data on the ext partition, , teh fat32 partition is always going to be slowest.

[Q] Not enough internal storage

Like everyone here, I have the famous HTC Leo. A friend installed Android on NAND, the 2.3.4 with the mod-HyperDroid CM7-v2.1.0.
This is a great device, but the more I use it, the more I have less internal memory.
At first, I installed a lot of applications, I was full of things and I ended up filling the internal memory. I moved the more applications possible on the SD card, but the internal memory ended up being full. So I uninstalled applications not too useful, and applications more useful, clean caches, remove data, but it is still too small. My system tells me that I only have 217.3 Mb total internal memory and while I hardly more than application system installed, I only have 21.3 MB available. Now, I know that this model has double.
I do not understand: what is this devilry? Where is my memory? How can I resume normal operation until all the memory is gone and my phone becomes unusable?
I can't be the only one to whom it happens, right?
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
samsamuel said:
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
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Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
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so, pretty much exactly what i described, then....
shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
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So, I don't really need to use this. I just can install a new ROM on my NAND after making extending place on my SD for the 'dataonext', can't I?
I have to choose a dataonext ROM (with french version) and make new partition on my CD card. I'm saving all the SD card data's just now (with luckyBackup, because I'm on ubuntu PC).
My problem is find a good ROM for my needs. So, I have HSPL 2.0.8 and MAGLDR. How can I find the rom radio number? I need this information to choose the good ROM. Any advices about good ROM for my needs?
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
samsamuel said:
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
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I bought a new 16 GB SD card to try the method of post 1843062. I am trying to format as it should, and tonight or tomorrow, I'm trying to see if I can install the script without too much risk, I am not a very experienced user of ROM for HD2 and, in addition, as I'm 100% Linux Ubuntu, I saw that many procedures are more complicated or impossible to run from a Linux desktop.
Thank you for all your help and I'll let you know.
I need to understand.
I have a EU HD2 with HyperDroid CM7 installed on it.
Like many people here, my memory became too small over time. So I look for a solution and I was guided to this thread. While speaking, I read everything I could understand (and frankly there really is too much to read and understand, here ) and I ended up deciding to adopt the solution Kokotas.
So I bought a new SD card (16GB class 10 Duracell - I know, Duracell is a brand of batteries ...) and I formatted properly Gparted as shown, with one primary partition of 12 GB fat32 I named /données (French for datas) and a second primary partition 4 GB Ext4 I named /data.
Then I primed to install the script Kokotas (but I have not yet done so, this is the trick!) And there: surprise!
I suddenly 4 times more free memory internally (from 20 MB to 80 MB), but it is still the same overall size!
I wonder how it is done, because it's been months that I want to release the NAND memory, I deleted almost all my applications downloaded without great effect and there, before installing the solution Kokotas, hop, I have the place!
I run Nautilus on my HD2 connected via USB and what do I see? in the partition /data in ext4, records were Cres /app /app-private and /dalvik-cache.
What does that mean? My ROM can do one DATAtoEXT 2011 alone, when she sees a partition SD / data?
Do I install the script Kokotas or it is not worth it?
Do I flash a new ROM (I thought MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but I'm not sure it's a good idea) without risk, in short I need to understand what happens with my phone.
Thank you.
(Sorry for my english : this is the fault of Google translation )
You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
orangekid said:
You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
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I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
Monolecte said:
I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
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I didn't see any great battery improvement with NAND.
ROM flashing don't work
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
Monolecte said:
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
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use the nand toolkit
samsamuel said:
use the nand toolkit
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With an Ubuntu PC?
After miles of thread reading here, I won against the machine!
I have something like a new phone.
Thank you everybody.
If I can do it, anybody can do it!
ubuntu or windows will be fine.
The NAND Toolkit is a Windows software... so...

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