Like everyone here, I have the famous HTC Leo. A friend installed Android on NAND, the 2.3.4 with the mod-HyperDroid CM7-v2.1.0.
This is a great device, but the more I use it, the more I have less internal memory.
At first, I installed a lot of applications, I was full of things and I ended up filling the internal memory. I moved the more applications possible on the SD card, but the internal memory ended up being full. So I uninstalled applications not too useful, and applications more useful, clean caches, remove data, but it is still too small. My system tells me that I only have 217.3 Mb total internal memory and while I hardly more than application system installed, I only have 21.3 MB available. Now, I know that this model has double.
I do not understand: what is this devilry? Where is my memory? How can I resume normal operation until all the memory is gone and my phone becomes unusable?
I can't be the only one to whom it happens, right?
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
samsamuel said:
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
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Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
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so, pretty much exactly what i described, then....
shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
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So, I don't really need to use this. I just can install a new ROM on my NAND after making extending place on my SD for the 'dataonext', can't I?
I have to choose a dataonext ROM (with french version) and make new partition on my CD card. I'm saving all the SD card data's just now (with luckyBackup, because I'm on ubuntu PC).
My problem is find a good ROM for my needs. So, I have HSPL 2.0.8 and MAGLDR. How can I find the rom radio number? I need this information to choose the good ROM. Any advices about good ROM for my needs?
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
samsamuel said:
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
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I bought a new 16 GB SD card to try the method of post 1843062. I am trying to format as it should, and tonight or tomorrow, I'm trying to see if I can install the script without too much risk, I am not a very experienced user of ROM for HD2 and, in addition, as I'm 100% Linux Ubuntu, I saw that many procedures are more complicated or impossible to run from a Linux desktop.
Thank you for all your help and I'll let you know.
I need to understand.
I have a EU HD2 with HyperDroid CM7 installed on it.
Like many people here, my memory became too small over time. So I look for a solution and I was guided to this thread. While speaking, I read everything I could understand (and frankly there really is too much to read and understand, here ) and I ended up deciding to adopt the solution Kokotas.
So I bought a new SD card (16GB class 10 Duracell - I know, Duracell is a brand of batteries ...) and I formatted properly Gparted as shown, with one primary partition of 12 GB fat32 I named /données (French for datas) and a second primary partition 4 GB Ext4 I named /data.
Then I primed to install the script Kokotas (but I have not yet done so, this is the trick!) And there: surprise!
I suddenly 4 times more free memory internally (from 20 MB to 80 MB), but it is still the same overall size!
I wonder how it is done, because it's been months that I want to release the NAND memory, I deleted almost all my applications downloaded without great effect and there, before installing the solution Kokotas, hop, I have the place!
I run Nautilus on my HD2 connected via USB and what do I see? in the partition /data in ext4, records were Cres /app /app-private and /dalvik-cache.
What does that mean? My ROM can do one DATAtoEXT 2011 alone, when she sees a partition SD / data?
Do I install the script Kokotas or it is not worth it?
Do I flash a new ROM (I thought MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but I'm not sure it's a good idea) without risk, in short I need to understand what happens with my phone.
Thank you.
(Sorry for my english : this is the fault of Google translation )
You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
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You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
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I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
Monolecte said:
I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
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I didn't see any great battery improvement with NAND.
ROM flashing don't work
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
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I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
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use the nand toolkit
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use the nand toolkit
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With an Ubuntu PC?
After miles of thread reading here, I won against the machine!
I have something like a new phone.
Thank you everybody.
If I can do it, anybody can do it!
ubuntu or windows will be fine.
The NAND Toolkit is a Windows software... so...
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This is probably a daft question but the TmoUS HD2 has 1gb ROM, so when we create partitions for CWR why dont we use the entire 1gb? It has an additional 500+mb of RAM to allow everything to run smoothly. What am I missing here? Why is 400mb the recommended size? Doesnt that just leave 600mb going to waste?
Thanks for any clarification.
It may not necessarily be daft, but it certainly is in the wrong forum.
You are completely not understanding how things works, you are messing ram with rom, you are messing cwr partitions with sd partitions..you are messing system partition with userdata partition.. summarizing: you are doing so much confusion that you will dont know also your name in some minutes
And, btw, wrong section.
btw I'm in a kind mood today:
When you flash CWR, all your availabe ROM will be used for data storage. The "400mb thing" is just for system partition, where the build will be stored
If you se a build that uses SD to store data, your availabel ROM is wasted also if you still need to use the 400mb thing (or less if the build is smaller)
Your RAM are never touched from those things.
First, not sure why this is the wrong section as it directly related to NAND/CWR, but thank for the psudo moderation.
Rafpinga: I'm not concerned with SD partitions, Don't use them as I have no need, but i gather the gist of your answer is that my 400mb ROM partition is strictly for the system (OS files) and the remainder of the 1gb will be used for data? That makes more sense.
So I basically have 1gb of ROM (700 something formatted), 400 is used for system/OS and the remaining 300 something is available for apps etc..?
Ok, I thought I had my answer but apparently not. How am I confusing NAND and SD partitions? I don't use SD partitions at all? I use NAND partitions only as far as I can tell. What did I miss? I didn't even mention SD partitions in my OP.
I have a 400mb System partition, which is on NAND, the remainder of my NAND is used for data correct? My SD card is irrelevant to this setup correct? I don't even need an SD card inserted for my setup to work...
If i'm confusing the two perhaps someone would explain how rather than just *****ing about the thread!.... If it's in the wrong place I'm sorry and I'm sure it'll get rightfully moved but that shouldnt negate trying to get an answer.
OK, you're all over the map, but lets do the quick rundown.
A partition is a chunk of named memory-space. aka c: in windows or the swap file in linux.
SD cards and internal ROM are essentially hard disks that can be written to. The ROM needs to be flashed, while the SD cards internally flash too. What you can do is partition either of them and name the partition. You can also choose the filesystem that a particular partition uses. Internal ROM for android needs to be partitioned into a proper linux filesystem with proper formatting to operate. One of the partitions is userspace, another is "system". SD partitions are extensions to the linux operating system and as such should not be considered "bad". Really, the more memory the better.
Random Access Memory (RAM), i believe some type of DDR in this phone, is a volatile memory that clears upon restart. It's only used during normal operation and never stores your Android.
Read-Only Memory (ROM) is NAND in this case. There is a large misnomer on these forums about NAND. They meant to call it Internal NAND. ROM, the 1gb, is where ALL operating system files are stored. You flash the bootstraps and system partitions once, then all your stuff is stored in a separate portion of the ROM.
NAND is the storage technology used to manufacture most consumer read-only memory(ROM). SD cards and the internal memory both use NAND type memory, the difference between the two is the bus speed between the internal NAND and the CPU.
On the TMOUS HD2, there is 1,000mb of space in the ROM. A 400mb system partition would leave 600mb for things like the swap file and the user data portion. In some cases, ie EU version, a 400mb system partition would eat the ~500mb available ROM, so developers figured out a way to partition the SD card and effectively expand the ~500mb to 1,000mb and beyond. APP2SD+ was the final solution.
The TMOUS when partitioned properly will have a huge amount of headroom for the Android to excel. Nothing really goes to waste as long as you use a TMOUS compatible ROM.
Next time, ask in the right forum and you'll get the answer you wanted without all the hassle.
Thank you. I really appreciate that explaination and again, sorry for being in the wrong forum.
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Ok, now that the whole NAND/RAM/CWR thing is cleared and little badgering, I'll move this thread to the Q & A section. If you see a thread in the wrong section, just report it. Once you've posted the question in the wrong thread, there is nothing the OP can do to move it. So if you can answer then please do. This way when a MOD moves the thread to the correct place it has some useful information. So I'm deleting the SPAM/light Flaming and moving this along.
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Ok, I've been able to keep up with all the flashing of android on hd2 fairly easy since the beginning almost a year ago. This is the only time I've ever really had a hard time figuring it this thing out.
I have flashed nand miui rom with 250mb partition on my eu hd2 through clockwork recovery. I'm trying to try other builds so I do the same method previously by flashing the zip file on my sd card through clockwork but it always get stuck at "unpacking sdext" files.
Is it because each build require different size partitions? Is it something else? Am I missing a step?
This clockwork stuff is pretty confusing...help is appreciated and thank you all in advanced. Much love.
Yes, different builds do require different partition sizes. A GingerBread build can get by on a 150mb (and possibly less) partition, whereas a Desire HD based build will require a 400mb partition.
so how do i go about doing this? because ive tried to partition my card, but it just erases everything clean even with a backup
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so how do i go about doing this? because ive tried to partition my card, but it just erases everything clean even with a backup
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The latest cwm partitions are flashed to your NAND and has nothing to do with partitions on your sd card. The sd card partitions are needed to run certain roms on the EU512 device.
To flash a cwm 1.3 partition, you need magldr 1.13, download the partition size you need, boot to usb flasher in magldr and run the daf.exe file from the download. It will wipe data on your phone NAND memory and should have no impact on data on the sd card.
I already have cwm 1.3 and magldr 1.13. I already flashed miui rom. That means I have to use a computer to flash other Roms as well? I thought the point of cwm is so u can flash and switch between roms without a comp?
or does this mean flash through the computer once and then u can switch between roms? sorry if I'm really dumb
You can (as long as you have the same partition size as is needed). I haven't tried it, but I guess you could install the 400mb partition and that should cover all rom types. The only problem is that you then create a larger partition on NAND than may be needed for some roms thereby reducing the internal memory available.
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You can (as long as you have the same partition size as is needed). I haven't tried it, but I guess you could install the 400mb partition and that should cover all rom types. The only problem is that you then create a larger partition on NAND than may be needed for some roms thereby reducing the internal memory available.
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ahhhhhh. I think I will try that and report back to see how it goes. thanks so much for your help. I will try to do the same for other people once I figure this out
I'd be interested to know the answer. Good luck....
welps. I have tried with no luck. I actually ruined my 8gb SD card trying it and had to get a new one.
Ive been able to flash the 400mb partition and have been able to flash any rom but like it has already been stated it affects the amount of internal memory available, not too bad for me as i have a tmous
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welps. I have tried with no luck. I actually ruined my 8gb SD card trying it and had to get a new one.
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Ok, send me your 8Go SD if you think it's dead
NAND and SD are two different things. For your SD, just delete/recreate the partition and it will be new again.
Explanation I post somewhere else (hope it wll help you to understand):
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I will try to explain.
I assume you have a non-TMOUS device. So your internal storage (let call it NAND) is 512Mo. This is all what your have.
The CWM xxxMo will be what your allocate for your build.
If you allocate 150 (by flashing CWM 150MB) you will have 512-150=362Mo free.
If you use CWM 400... you will have 112Mo free space.
The build you want to use take a little bit more than 100Mo. So why using CWM400 to fill it with only 100Mo???
You have to use the smallest CWM to put your build in it. This will give you the more storage space after installing the build.
Don't think the more "CWM" you will use the more space you will have. It's exacly the opposite.
Hope you understand. Please take into account that the figures I give are appoximation. Don't complain if instead of 362Mo you have only 300... it's more than enough anyway for most of us.
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So if your first NAND needed a small partition only, you may have to flash again CWM with another partition setting (for ex a 400Mo to fit a desire HD NAND).
Go on the CWM thread to find the version you need (150, 250 and 400 are available). Some thread are also available to modify the config file to make the partition size you want.
By using the 400Mo most build will be flashable... but you will have very little free space and will have to use your SD card (APP2SD or other soft).
I prefer to put everything in NAND for two reasons:
1/ I can remove my SD when I want
2/ I think it's better for battery consumption to not use the SD (but this I don't know, it's just what I think).
i was able to recover the sd card (thanks). anddddd i was able to kind of, sort of, dual boot, two different builds except that one of them has force close issues constantly.
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i was able to recover the sd card (thanks). anddddd i was able to kind of, sort of, dual boot, two different builds except that one of them has force close issues constantly.
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What are you talking about? You can't dual boot with clockwork
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What are you talking about? You can't dual boot with clockwork
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well its not dual booting. i just kind of re-install each build from clockwork.
Hi Friends,
I am using Desire HD rom on my htc hd2, for me everything working great but my internal memory is only of 24MB
Please help me out....
please provide me the information om how to increase internal memory....
Please do not make two threads on the same issue.
use app2sd !!!!
devfeel said:
Hi Friends,
I am using Desire HD rom on my htc hd2, for me everything working great but my internal memory is only of 24MB
Please help me out....
please provide me the information om how to increase internal memory....
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it would be usefull if you told us exactly which desire hd rom, how you are running it (daf, cwm, sd card), and whether you have an ext partition on your sd card. Oh, and which phone you have, regular or tmous.
Sense roms are big, they take up a big chunk of the nand, so it is almost always essential to use app2sd and/or data2sd. (read the thread for the rom you have to know which it supports)
More accurate info = more accurate help.
rubbish info = rubbish guesswork help.
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it would be usefull if you told us exactly which desire hd rom, how you are running it (daf, cwm, sd card), and whether you have an ext partition on your sd card. Oh, and which phone you have, regular or tmous.
Sense roms are big, they take up a big chunk of the nand, so it is almost always essential to use app2sd and/or data2sd. (read the thread for the rom you have to know which it supports)
More accurate info = more accurate help.
rubbish info = rubbish guesswork help.
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Thanks for your reply...
here is my details..
ROM : LeoRCMix S v.1.5 (RCMixS v.2.0) [Sense 2.1+3.0]
Running using : CWM
Phone : HTC HD2
Im using : TMOUS
I know i have to use app2sd/data2sd.. but im not sure how to config it.. even i tried to do but im struck with boot screen..
ok, so it should only need a 200 meg system partition, so my guess would be that you haven't set up the 1gb ext partition? you can do that through cwm (backup your sd card first, it will get formatted) and
but im not sure how to config it
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you dont have to. it does it itself so long as you have the ext partition properly created. I also think that if you DONT have the ext partition set up yet, you will probably need to reinstal the rom after you DO set it up.
So, summary, , , question 1 - do you have an ext partition set up?
(Also, and this causes a lot of confusion, , , when the system uses an ext partition, it DOES NOT show the extra space in the available memory count, but it does get used, , so for example my phone shows 210MB or so free internal space, , , i install a 10MB probgram, that goes down to 200, BUT after i reboot, it goes back up to 210, , because the prog has actually installed to my 512MB ext partition, not the 210 internal space.)
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ok, so it should only need a 200 meg system partition, so my guess would be that you haven't set up the 1gb ext partition? you can do that through cwm (backup your sd card first, it will get formatted) and you dont have to. it does it itself so long as you have the ext partition properly created. I also think that if you DONT have the ext partition set up yet, you will probably need to reinstal the rom after you DO set it up.
So, summary, , , question 1 - do you have an ext partition set up?
(Also, and this causes a lot of confusion, , , when the system uses an ext partition, it DOES NOT show the extra space in the available memory count, but it does get used, , so for example my phone shows 210MB or so free internal space, , , i install a 10MB probgram, that goes down to 200, BUT after i reboot, it goes back up to 210, , because the prog has actually installed to my 512MB ext partition, not the 210 internal space.)
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Yes i have ext 1GB partition and i created using CWM and i have 400MB patition layout.. but still i am having low memory issue.. can you please tell me how to use data2sd with respect to thr above rom..
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and i have 400MB patition layout..
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then you are wasting 200 meg, , that rom says in post 1
EU and TMOUS: 200M system + 1GB EXT partition
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that means you have 200 meg empty in your system partition, not being used.
Stuff that you install do not get installed to the system partition, nothing (or at least not apps / settings) gets put into the system partition, except the system at installation.
Do a full cwm backup, reflash using a 200MB partition layout, reflash the rom to teh new layout, restore your data and sd-ext partitions from advanced restore (in cwm) and you will recover the 200MB
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then you are wasting 200 meg, , that rom says in post 1
that means you have 200 meg empty in your system partition, not being used.
Stuff that you install do not get installed to the system partition, nothing (or at least not apps / settings) gets put into the system partition, except the system at installation.
Do a full cwm backup, reflash using a 200MB partition layout, reflash the rom to teh new layout, restore your data and sd-ext partitions from advanced restore (in cwm) and you will recover the 200MB
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Thanks a lot... now i understood wht is system and data memory.. now i got 200mb internal memory.. thanks again
same problem
i have a nand of 4.1.2 in my hd2 its pacman
it shows system memory only 13mb, i have removed all apps i installed earlier but still no space freed, can i atleast get the same 150mb back which i had earlier i.e any way to wipe all data on it/hard reset it?
is there any way of expanding the memory? because after i have installed 10-15 apps the memory vanished(even though i moved the apps to sdcard using app2sd) does that means i can not install more apps any way??
p.s i am a new user of android dont know how to install new rom etc so please explain the solution in simple steps.
hi guys new user of HTC HD2 here (previous motorola defy user)
so I got this phone yesterday thru swapping, and this phone is awesome, but I was rather disappointed with the internal memory. Mines got 186mb of application space so I always get memory full prompts. I know there is a mod to increase the size.
I flashed paranoid android this morning and boy is it good looking
I just want to increase my internal memory and Id be happy with it
what's the maximum I can a lot to it?
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hi guys new user of HTC HD2 here (previous motorola defy user)
so I got this phone yesterday thru swapping, and this phone is awesome, but I was rather disappointed with the internal memory. Mines got 186mb of application space so I always get memory full prompts. I know there is a mod to increase the size.
I flashed paranoid android this morning and boy is it good looking
I just want to increase my internal memory and Id be happy with it
what's the maximum I can a lot to it?
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OK first things first,
Are you familiar with the 'stuff' of the HD2? MAGLDR bootloader, ClockworkMod Recovery(CWM)? sd-ext partitions?
well I'm trying to learn this terms but this is gonna take a while I think,
the Previous owner has installed magdlr 1.13 and clockworkmod and I have flashed paranoid android rom this morning. So I do have a recovery
sd-ext partion not so much
**okay okay, you will need to do a lot of research about your device and using it to its full potential; too much that it can't be explained within one post **
but here is a method I found in xda of performing a sd-ext partition within cwm:
> GO to advance and then partition SD card
> Remember this will wipe the sd card so back everything up if need be
> Choose how much space you want, 1024mb is recommended, on the partition then then choose 0MB for swap
>PLEASE NOTE PARTITIONING WILL WIPE THE SD CARD!
>and hey presto your done
> from here you can install link2sd and your set to go. -note, you will need to read about link2sd before use. just search it
There are many benifits of this using EXT-Partition such as you apps will automatically transfer to your partition meaning you will free space on your internal storage!
apologies if there's any misinformation there, quite tired :$
Sent from space..
ah I see, so basically the sd card will be detected as and internal card and I won't face memory full errors whenever uninstalling?
but I can just use link2sd app to transfer apps to sd card manually right?
I was wondering why I only have 186mb of internal memory wherein in GSM arena it says at least 512mb.
what I want to do is a phone modification to increase it, just in case the sd card was corrupted, I still have my apps on the phone memory
thanks for the reply though, if you can add something feel free :victory:
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ah I see, so basically the sd card will be detected as and internal card and I won't face memory full errors whenever uninstalling?
but I can just use link2sd app to transfer apps to sd card manually right?
I was wondering why I only have 186mb of internal memory wherein in GSM arena it says at least 512mb.
what I want to do is a phone modification to increase it, just in case the sd card was corrupted, I still have my apps on the phone memory
thanks for the reply though, if you can add something feel free :victory:
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It says 186Mb because when you flash CWM, you also partition your NAND to run Android. Essentially, the storage you get is 512Mb-CWM partition size, although normally it's lower as there are probably things other than this installed to the NAND.
Thank you
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It says 186Mb because when you flash CWM, you also partition your NAND to run Android. Essentially, the storage you get is 512Mb-CWM partition size, although normally it's lower as there are probably things other than this installed to the NAND.
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Hi so are you saying I can increase my phone memory by re-partition? how can you tell me please! id be happy by 300mb at least
chachoi said:
Hi so are you saying I can increase my phone memory by re-partition? how can you tell me please! id be happy by 300mb at least
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Well it depends on the partition size you're currently using. If it's already the minimum for your ROM then no you can't increase the storage by repartitioning the NAND, but if it's any more than the minimum then you can increase this, by reflashing recovery with the correct size. Make a full backup in CWM first though.
so I reflashed 150MB recovery partition and flashed AOKP build by xylograph
now I have 217MB of internal memory
what should I flash so I can have more space?
the less is your recovery partition - more internal memory you get. Minimal recovery partition can be about 100 mb for some light roms I belive. So you can get 50 more mb than you hav now.
You've mentioned 300mb earlier, even if you get your desired 300mb it's gonna get filled up very soon.
I would advise you as was mentioned above to borrow 1gb from your sd card for sd-ext partition. Most of the roms support from the box (without intsalling any additional apps or scripts) sd-ext partition and install apps by default on that partiotion, Paranoid Android does, for instance, actually 80% of the roms do as well...
I don't know if it means anything, but you could look into a US HD2. Its got 1024 mb internal memory! That's double!
ok maybe ill experiment with this sd-ext partition
never had to deal with tgis when I was on defy
try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661892
I installed AOKP in NAND & had only a few 100mb's available, I just used Link2SD & moved most apps/ games to SD. SD has no ext. part. yet. will do it latter when i get a 32gig card, now just testing a 4gig SD
I've just installed the Paranoid-Jellybean 1.99
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793180
on my EU HTC HD2
I can't anderstand what sd the idea behind program S2E, it seems its purpose is to move apps to SD but when used it this way then all newly installed Widgets disappeared What's more even without launching S2E in Settings thare are options to move individual apps to SD (not for all in fact)
it isn't talking about the normal fat partition on the sd card, you must have an EXT partition created before using the app.
What it does, is take the ext partition on the sd card and makes the system think that it is internal memory, thus giving you more 'internal' memory for apps and data and such like.
This isn't the same as choosing 'move to sd ' in the settings - apps options, as this moves the app to the FAT (windows) partition of the sd card. Some apps wont work when 'moved to sd', however they WILL work from the ext partition, because android thinks its internal.
So, if you haven't already got an ext partition, back up the contents of your current sd card (it will get wiped) then reboot into cwm, choose 'advanced - partition sd card' and choose a partition size. (512 or 1024 is usually plenty) then restart android and try the app again.
Any apps that you have already 'moved to sd', go move them back to internal, and the system should automatically move them from the FAT partition to the EXT partition.
Tahnk you for your explanation. Also I must apologize I confused the names of the programs - in fact its S2E rather than A2S (the previous post have written from memory). However probabely this s2e serves the same purpose, as it has such relevant commands:
Applications - Location: /data/app
Private apps - Location: /data/app-private
...
and so on, until:
Dalvik cache - Moving from /data to /sd-ext
So, I've chosen the first option and got displayed:
Application
Moving from /data to /sd-ext
Reboot is required!
and rebooted the phone, but the result was disappointing - several apps dissappeared including all Widgets!
Of course I've had ext3 partition previously set.
What was wrong?
Other question please: exactly WHAT is worth moving to SD Ext partition, Dalvik cache too?
yea they do the same/similar things - namely move parts of the system to the ext partition, and create symbolic links so that the system doesnt notice they've moved.
You seem to be moving your entire data folder to the ext, which i believe has an impact on boot performance, since the data partition wont be mounted straight away, and android needs it during boot.
I don't know a great deal about the various app2sd scripts, but the ones i've used normally only move the /data/app/ (your user installed apps folder) and the dalvik cache to the sd-ext partition.
samsamuel said:
yea they do the same/similar things - namely move parts of the system to the ext partition, and create symbolic links so that the system doesnt notice they've moved.
You seem to be moving your entire data folder to the ext, which i believe has an impact on boot performance, since the data partition wont be mounted straight away, and android needs it during boot.
I don't know a great deal about the various app2sd scripts, but the ones i've used normally only move the /data/app/ (your user installed apps folder) and the dalvik cache to the sd-ext partition.
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So won't it exert excessive load on SD card which could lead to some sort of instability or other issues?
ioy said:
So won't it exert excessive load on SD card which could lead to some sort of instability or other issues?
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better than exerting load on the nand and increasing the chances of bad blocks, right?
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better than exerting load on the nand and increasing the chances of bad blocks, right?
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theoretically YES but then does it also apply for the whole Android ROM itself (please compare the neighbouring discussion "is NAND Android better than SD and why?")
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no thanks, i have far more interesting things to do. i couldn't care less if there's excess load, though i'm pretty sure there isn't, since i've been running an ext partition for several months and no problems.
Have you understood me well? I've asked about the problem probably NAND ROMs themselves wear NAND memory too so would it be safer (for the device) to use SD ROMs (which write only on SD memory all the time)? How do you think, could it be the case?
i think if it were of any real benefit, people would be talking about it, but no one does. I guess its down to you, if YOU think it will help, then do it. If you don't, don't!
I guess battery drain would be teh real deal maker/breaker. I havent used sd android, but i believe it to be (in general terms) a little less stable, more prone to slowdowns, and harder on teh battery. But thats all anecdotal evidence, as i said, ive never booted sd android.
(edit - i must say, in humour, not meaning offence, that between this thread and your other thread, you sound like a guy who just bought a sports car and wants to cycle to work to save wear and tear on teh car )