I'm having a really hard time deciding between the at&t version of the S4, and the soon to be released "Google Edition" of the S4.
I have the ATT version now, and running TouchWiz, it's one of the laggiest phones I've ever used! Non stop lag throughout the UI, and particularly in the SMS app of all places...the keyboard freezes completely and the S4 just runs like absolute dogs**t.
I've disabled everything that can be and that helps quite a bit, but I still have lag.
I definitely want the stock android experience and understand I'd lose some features from the touchwiz/carrier version, which I am fine with.
Where' I have a hard time deciding is on cost. The carrier version is $250 for 32gb for me, vs the $650 google edition.
What do people here think? Will the carrier verision be able to run STOCK android every bit as well as the one google releases? I want as flawless a phone as possible. My nexus 4 is amazing, except for the terrible battery life and lack of LTE, so I want an S4 that will run android as well as the nexus.
Will the carrier S4 handle the google edition rom once that's (hopefully) released? Any stability or performance issues I should be aware of?
toptekjon said:
I'm having a really hard time deciding between the at&t version of the S4, and the soon to be released "Google Edition" of the S4.
I have the ATT version now, and running TouchWiz, it's one of the laggiest phones I've ever used! Non stop lag throughout the UI, and particularly in the SMS app of all places...the keyboard freezes completely and the S4 just runs like absolute dogs**t.
I've disabled everything that can be and that helps quite a bit, but I still have lag.
I definitely want the stock android experience and understand I'd lose some features from the touchwiz/carrier version, which I am fine with.
Where' I have a hard time deciding is on cost. The carrier version is $250 for 32gb for me, vs the $650 google edition.
What do people here think? Will the carrier verision be able to run STOCK android every bit as well as the one google releases? I want as flawless a phone as possible. My nexus 4 is amazing, except for the terrible battery life and lack of LTE, so I want an S4 that will run android as well as the nexus.
Will the carrier S4 handle the google edition rom once that's (hopefully) released? Any stability or performance issues I should be aware of?
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No one can be certain given ATT's behavior with the s4, but IMO it is safe to get the ATT version. My phone already feels like the google edition thanks to task650's AOKP, things will only get better for us when the GE is released
I would say the AT&T is still a worthy device. I too was in your laggy shoes. As much as I want to flash a custom ROM I am going to wait a bit before I do. Mainly, I want to see if the GE will support the added features such as the ir blaster. If they do I'm waiting for Roms to include those from the GE.
I know you have disabled a bunch of stuff already but I disabled practically everything Samsung on the phone and found replacements and kept what I wanted. I'm sure you have too.
In a short end of things while I'm still stock I am more of Nova/Google device with a back end of touchwiz. Adjusted some settings in Nova and the device settings. Its been a few weeks so I will have to look back and see exactly what I set but my laggy phone is now quite snappy.
I'd say stick it out because I personally feel confident the GE will flash fairly well on our devices. If I'm wrong then I guess I'll be waiting a little longer for a ROM I like or just a Galaxy S5 or S6.
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KY Wildcats said:
No one can be certain given ATT's behavior with the s4, but IMO it is safe to get the ATT version. My phone already feels like the google edition thanks to task650's AOKP, things will only get better for us when the GE is released
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Thank you very much for the reply. I'll give that ROM a try now...
I've used CM10 on here, but even that was a little laggy. My main reason for switching back to touchwiz though, was so that I could use my 64gb exFat SD card.
I was in the same boat. Love the s4 hate the lag but didn't want to pay the premium for the Google s4. I found the best for me is flashing GoldenEye ROM which is just the international ROM on our att model. It takes out the lag and keeps the phone like stock. Love it.
Is recommend trying it.... It'd be just like you have it now with all the features but no are bloat / lag
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CAG-man said:
I would say the AT&T is still a worthy device. I too was in your laggy shoes. As much as I want to flash a custom ROM I am going to wait a bit before I do. Mainly, I want to see if the GE will support the added features such as the ir blaster. If they do I'm waiting for Roms to include those from the GE.
I know you have disabled a bunch of stuff already but I disabled practically everything Samsung on the phone and found replacements and kept what I wanted. I'm sure you have too.
In a short end of things while I'm still stock I am more of Nova/Google device with a back end of touchwiz. Adjusted some settings in Nova and the device settings. Its been a few weeks so I will have to look back and see exactly what I set but my laggy phone is now quite snappy.
I'd say stick it out because I personally feel confident the GE will flash fairly well on our devices. If I'm wrong then I guess I'll be waiting a little longer for a ROM I like or just a Galaxy S5 or S6.
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Good advice, thank you.
I have disabled just about everything with the word Samsung or AT&T in it also!
Changed my animation settings as well, and running Nova on top/ in place of TW now and it's mostly tolerable.
I have a few days left to make my decision...the replies here will help. Thanks!
Cheeze[iT] said:
I was in the same boat. Love the s4 hate the lag but didn't want to pay the premium for the Google s4. I found the best for me is flashing GoldenEye ROM which is just the international ROM on our att model. It takes out the lag and keeps the phone like stock. Love it.
Is recommend trying it.... It'd be just like you have it now with all the features but no are bloat / lag
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Interesting. I might take a look.
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Other than the Smart Stay and camera, TouchWiz doesn't really do anything for me.
If those are critical to you then I'd go with the AT&T phone since it's less expensive.
For me, had I known about the Google Edition coming out, I would have waited for it and bought the AT&T but then flipped it on eBay before opening the package. To ensure I got the most $ for it. Then I'd have put a few bucks of my own into the deal and bought a Google Edition.
CZ Eddie said:
Other than the Smart Stay and camera, TouchWiz doesn't really do anything for me.
If those are critical to you then I'd go with the AT&T phone since it's less expensive.
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But if theory holds, you'll be able to run TouchWiz and those features just fine on the GE.
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As mentioned earlier Task650's ROMs are fantastic 'my daily driver on the s2 forever'. I got my phone for dirt cheap with trade-in and immediately put Task's ROM on it and couldn't be happier.
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To be honest, if you have the money then get the Google edition for guaranteed openness. While I'm sure our ATT version will continue to get support and eventually a true unlock, nothing beats true pure android at heart from Google themselves in my opinion.
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Thermalwolf said:
To be honest, if you have the money then get the Google edition for guaranteed openness. While I'm sure our ATT version will continue to get support and eventually a true unlock, nothing beats true pure android at heart from Google themselves in my opinion.
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I definitely agree with you there. I was leaning that direction for a long time, but I think I've decided to keep the ATT version.
I got the 32gb for $250. I'll keep this (actually running great now with the goldeneye rom) and worst case scenario I'll buy a nexus 5 for $350 (speculation of course, but I think likely to happen) when it comes out, then sell my GS4 and possibly even make a slight profit.
Thanks to all for the advice!
toptekjon said:
I definitely agree with you there. I was leaning that direction for a long time, but I think I've decided to keep the ATT version.
I got the 32gb for $250. I'll keep this (actually running great now with the goldeneye rom) and worst case scenario I'll buy a nexus 5 for $350 (speculation of course, but I think likely to happen) when it comes out, then sell my GS4 and possibly even make a slight profit.
Thanks to all for the advice!
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On the plus side to stick with AT&T model you get Touchwhiz support which to me is not a bad thing considering they could easily fix Touchwhiz, if they would just listen to us lol As it stands we don't know how TW will work with the Google Edition. It would make sense that it should run flawlessly on it but there's always that chance Google will play with something to keep you on there side.
I was super excited to see the google edition of the S4 during google io, after having time to ponder it, I too am wondering if it will be the best purchase. It would seem that a lot of the addidtional hardware such as the IR Blaster will not function, so Im starting to have my doubts. Thought I know in the end I will be unhappy with anything that is not up to date with android?? grrr, I just want the perfect phone darnit.
If only Google would of released a 32GB version.
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I was super excited to see the google edition of the S4 during google io, after having time to ponder it, I too am wondering if it will be the best purchase. It would seem that a lot of the addidtional hardware such as the IR Blaster will not function, so Im starting to have my doubts. Thought I know in the end I will be unhappy with anything that is not up to date with android?? grrr, I just want the perfect phone darnit.
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You mean for a remote control?
I heard this app is good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy
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pachi72 said:
If only Google would of released a 32GB version.
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You mean for a remote control?
I heard this app is good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy
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Has anyone actually used this app on an AOSP rom?
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Has anyone actually used this app on an AOSP rom?
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Pretty sure it won't work. As of right now, there is no Android API to access the IR blaster. Rumored to change for 4.3.
Google edition actually does support the ir blaster on the s4. You just need an app to support it. Read reviews today and all indicate it works but doesn't come with WatchOn or any stock apps to use it.
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Just saw that the nexus was dropping to $349 officially from the play store, to coincide with google i/o. That phone wasnt even in my radar until now. The s iii will most likely stay at $550-600 ebay prices for a while due to limited quantity. Its even higher right now as it hasnt fully launched in a lot of markets. Is it worth the $200-300 extra price if one wants to get a contract free phone?
The other thing i want to know is color temp. The phonearena comparison ideo between the two clearly show how much bluer the s iii is and the nexus is much whiter, making webviewing better since the black text on white is better looking and higher ontrast than black on blue. Will turning on cinema or natural mode make the s iii look like the nexus?
That $349 midrange price is very temptng. And they both have 720p screens and (to me) negligible performance differences. The play tore even states it already has jelly bean.
Well if you plan on custom OS I suppose the nexus is worthwhile.
I would want the camera and S Beam but if nothing else aside from S3 can use S Beam I suppose you could leave that out.
Does the nexus have the microSD slot? I know one Nexus didn't...
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Thought about it. But sticking with my plan of purchasing the S3. Camera is much better and so is everything else. I would think AOSP rooms will roll out quickly for the S3 so I wouldn't worry about not getting JB.
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Does the nexus have the microSD slot? I know one Nexus didn't...
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nope, no micro SD slot on he Gnex
I came from the nexus. Its good but its not the gs3.
Better screen
Better camera
Smoother (stock s3 vs custom Rom kernel on nexus)
More ram (US version)
In addition we will ultimately have aosp roms. We will also have many variant of touchwiz, something they will not have.
Honestly, Google devices are over rated unless you are the type that doesn't root and flash custom roms.
Aridon said:
I came from the nexus. Its good but its not the gs3.
Better screen
Better camera
Smoother (stock s3 vs custom Rom kernel on nexus)
More ram (US version)
In addition we will ultimately have aosp roms. We will also have many variant of touchwiz, something they will not have.
Honestly, Google devices are over rated unless you are the type that doesn't root and flash custom roms.
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I agree with every thing you said except the last part.....for myself I am a serious FLASHAHOLIC.....I mean bad....I have a whole stack of devices I mess with....
The Gnex is Zoolander...it only has one look. Flashing Samsung and other brands you will always have two bases which means twice the fun.....it is well known the Gnex is a developers phone.....leave it for them.
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tylerdurdin said:
I agree with every thing you said except the last part.....for myself I am a serious FLASHAHOLIC.....I mean bad....I have a whole stack of devices I mess with....
The Gnex is Zoolander...it only has one look. Flashing Samsung and other brands you will always have two bases which means twice the fun.....it is well known the Gnex is a developers phone.....leave it for them.
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That is what I said...
If I were paying for the phone, yes I would immediately switch my purchase to the Galaxy Nexus. The lack of expandable memory really, really stinks, but I could buy almost two Galaxy Nexus phones for the price of one SIII (I'm on T-Mobile), and I know I could live with a smaller portable music collection for that kind of difference.
I am waiting for $325 or$300 then pulling the trigger. anyone know the return policy for ATT Premier?
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That is what I said...
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Yeah sorry.....missed the ..."doesn't".....that was a key word.
On that note.....well said man.....well said.
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If the bootloader can't be unlocked? Or maybe go back to the Note 2 or HTC One?
I am going to think about it. I really like the size compared to my note 2. This really isnt as bad lag wise as my note 2 even with custom roms I had on it. Opening the phone and messaging app is the only thing that is really noticeably slower.
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TechSilver13 said:
I am going to think about it. I really like the size compared to my note 2. This really isnt as bad lag wise as my note 2 even with custom roms I had on it. Opening the phone and messaging app is the only thing that is really noticeably slower.
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Yea. That's what I use most tho.
I'm just afraid that the lag won't/can't be fixed..
I havent noticed any lag...and any lag people notice is probably due to the fact that 90% of apps have not been optimized to run on 4.2.2 the latest version of android
Also...I will guarantee you that the bootloader will be unlocked...idk why everyone is so paranoid about it...if the Motorola Atrix bootloader can be unlocked than so fan the sgs4 especiaply since its going to have much more dev support as well as sgs4 prob wint have an encrypted bootloader...just be freaking patient people...dont expect things to happen over night the phone was just officially released today...wait a couple weeks while more devs get the device
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I havent noticed any lag...and any lag people notice is probably due to the fact that 90% of apps have not been optimized to run on 4.2.2 the latest version of android
Also...I will guarantee you that the bootloader will be unlocked...idk why everyone is so paranoid about it...if the Motorola Atrix bootloader can be unlocked than so fan the sgs4 especiaply since its going to have much more dev support as well as sgs4 prob wint have an encrypted bootloader...just be freaking patient people...dont expect things to happen over night the phone was just officially released today...wait a couple weeks while more devs get the device
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If you had my luck you'd see where I'm coming from LOL.
I have faith in the developer community, eventually it will get unlocked and there will be a large amount of support for the device. But if not...at least it is a good looking paper weight that can be sold to people who have no idea about android dev community and they are just looking for the newest/greatest thing launched. I could then just buy w/e device I wanted. I'm content knowing that right now, it is a good device without any problems, while messaging or doing anything else. :highfive:
mg2195 said:
I havent noticed any lag...and any lag people notice is probably due to the fact that 90% of apps have not been optimized to run on 4.2.2 the latest version of android
Also...I will guarantee you that the bootloader will be unlocked...idk why everyone is so paranoid about it...if the Motorola Atrix bootloader can be unlocked than so fan the sgs4 especiaply since its going to have much more dev support as well as sgs4 prob wint have an encrypted bootloader...just be freaking patient people...dont expect things to happen over night the phone was just officially released today...wait a couple weeks while more devs get the device
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The Atrix bootloader was unlocked because Moto gave us the ability to unlock it - it wasn't hacked or anything, despite the bounty raised and complaints made.... if Samsung doesn't want this unlocked, it won't be, IMO of course, so I wouldn't compare the manufacturer giving away the unlock code to devs cracking this one, considering how many more eyes are on the S4 than there were on the Atrix!
THAT being said, I agree with you on the support and development that will go into this phone - it is so much better than the SIII in every way possible, I can't wait to see what we're going to get into on it! All I know is that I'm ready for assisting with PNG's on the themes whenever someone wants to start coding....
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I havent noticed any lag...and any lag people notice is probably due to the fact that 90% of apps have not been optimized to run on 4.2.2 the latest version of android
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I keep seeing this posted and have no idea what the hell you guys think needs to be "optimized" in apps for 4.2.2. There are a ton of devices running roms on 4.2.2 without lag in the apps.
I can only assume you mean touchwiz itself which, let's be honest, is at this point likely a bloated monster full of awful legacy code.
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I can only assume you mean touchwiz itself which, let's be honest, is at this point likely a bloated monster full of awful legacy code.
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Agreed... I am patiently waiting for the day when I can get rid of that crap, that's when this thing will really shine
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Guys i need a little help. I am replacing my lovely nexus s.
My candidates are
Nexus 4
Galaxy S4
HTC ONE
Galaxy S3
Today i tried an S3 and a HTC ONE and an S4 (i9505) and a n4.
I love the S4 the design i think is much better than the s3, but the ONE has the best design, but i never buy a phone just 4 the design. And it is impossible to replace anything on the HTC One. The camera is not so good either, but the microphone and the stabilization is realy an useful extra. And HTC is never too good on updating its software. N4 is is a good all rounder, but the camera is crap The screen was insanely nice in the s4. My problem is that the s4 browser lagged like hell, i loaded up the verge desktop as my usual test page and during loading it was all choppy and unresponsive even the s3 was much faster! Not to menion my nexus 7 almost my dated nexus s was more responsive.... Maybe the demo phone does not had the final software? Can somone with a stock i9505 can try theverge? Please tell me how the browser behaves on a final s4? thx
I'd suggest you go with the s4. The lag was due to firmware not being ready. Chances are the model you will buy will probably not lag. And even if it does it will be fixed with an update. The s4 has the best hardware around right now, no doubt about that. The htc one is also a great phone and you won't regret buying either of them. I wouldn't buy the nexus 4 or s3 though.
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I wouldn't buy the nexus 4 or s3 though.
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S3 would be only because of price but i dont realy like compromise What you have against the nexus? Do you have the s4?
You may want to ask this in a general section and not in any sub forum as you will get biased replies to whichever forum you ask in. If you have decided to ask here it sounds like you are leaning towards the S4. The One at the moment sounds like the smoothest but if you want/need an external battery and SD slot you should probably go for the S4. The Ones camera isnt bad, its not as good as the S4 in daylight but better in low light. I'd go into a store again then compare the One & S4 to see which one you really like.
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S3 would be only because of price but i dont realy like compromise What you have against the nexus? Do you have the s4?
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No doubt Nexus 4 is a nice phone. But it is 6 month old tech at this point. You will love the S4 coming from Nexus S, unless you absolutely hate touchwiz...
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You may want to ask this in a general section and not in any sub forum as you will get biased replies to whichever forum you ask in.
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I am asking it here because i would like somone to check the browser for me The s4 in the store near me is prolly not final and i dont want to judge the phone badly because of it
Highway 55 said:
No doubt Nexus 4 is a nice phone. But it is 6 month old tech at this point. You will love the S4 coming from Nexus S, unless you absolutely hate touchwiz...
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Thats a good point, if you like stock android you do not want a S4 unless you want to wait and see about this whole bootloader mess and get cyanogen.
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I am asking it here because i would like somone to check the browser for me The s4 in the store near me is prolly not final and i dont want to judge the phone badly because of it
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I imagine what is in the store is final retail. I have never seen any device in store running pre-release hardware or firmware. What you see is what you get.
You'll get different views.
If software is important I'd recommend the nexus 4 as you'll get key lime pie before any Samsung or HTC device. It's not bloated with features, it's simple stock Android fast and functional.
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I imagine what is in the store is final retail. I have never seen any device in store running pre-release hardware or firmware. What you see is what you get.
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Then i will go to another store and try it as if the s4 would behave that much slower as the s3 i would expect lots of people complaining
Only options in my eyes would be the S4 or the One. I have had both, the One first but I had to switch to the S4 as every single unit I found had stuck pixels among other faults. Aside from that it is a great phone, but if you do consider one then make sure you get a good one before you leave the shop!
Alternatively, absolutely no regrets going to the S4 instead.
Guys i need a little help. I am replacing my lovely nexus s.
My candidates are
Nexus 4
Galaxy S4
HTC ONE
Galaxy S3
Today i tried an S3 and a HTC ONE and an S4 (i9505) and a n4.
I love the S4 the design i think is much better than the s3, but the ONE has the best design, but i never buy a phone just 4 the design. And it is impossible to replace anything on the HTC One. The camera is not so good either, but the microphone and the stabilization is realy an useful extra. And HTC is never too good on updating its software. N4 is is a good all rounder, but the camera is crap The screen was insanely nice in the s4. My problem is that the s4 browser lagged like hell, i loaded up the verge desktop as my usual test page and during loading it was all choppy and unresponsive even the s3 was much faster! Not to menion my nexus 7 almost my dated nexus s was more responsive.... Maybe the demo phone does not had the final software? Can somone with a stock i9505 can try theverge? Please tell me how the browser behaves on a final s4? thx
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The camera on the one is a fair bit better in the 1.29 update, check out some comparison reviews. Also, in terms of software updates, I read a piece somewhere that showed pretty categorically that HTC have the best history of updates.
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S3 would be only because of price but i dont realy like compromise What you have against the nexus? Do you have the s4?
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Well lack of expandable storage along with the maximum option being a 16 gb version is the dealbreaker. I have a 16 gb s3 + 32 gb micro sd and I tend to fill that up with music and movies so I wouldn't be able to survive on just 16 gb. Theres also the battery life which doesn't seem to be that great along with it being non removable though I could probably live with it if it was only just that. I don't have the s4 right now. Still trying to decide between the s4 and one...
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I read a piece somewhere that showed pretty categorically that HTC have the best history of updates.
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I have seen that too and HTC is realy better in updating non flagship devices for example the galaxy w does not even get updated from 2.3, but s2 the former flagship got 4.1.2 and wil get 4.2.2 and the HTC sensation remained on 4.0.4. But if someone replaces phone every year that does not realy matter
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I read a piece somewhere that showed pretty categorically that HTC have the best history of updates.
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Which is necessary cause the One came out with an older Android version.
Does anyone with the actual phone could report on the browser Or we all are just wannabe owners Thx in advance
Hey guys... I just recently bought the 32gb version of the GS4 but with the Google edition around the corner I don't know if its best just to return this one and downgrade memory space just to have a fully unlocked phone with stock android.
I know there are Roms available now that give us the stock ROM experience but there is always some type of issue with them so I'm thinking Google edition is the way to go so I have 14 days to decide what do you guys recommend.. Keep my current device or just buy the Google edition? BTW I did have the nexus 4 and I loved the stock experience but the camera and weak speaker was a deal breaker for me and now with the GS4 hardware specs overall destroy the nexus 4 in my opinion
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I don't see any reason to buy a phone with the stock experience when its freely available through CM10.1 and other AOSP builds.
I guess what it really depends on is will it cost more money to trade in the touchwiz s4 and then by the stock s4. I couldn't convince myself that it would be worth spending money on.
To each is own though, and it would be nice to be a part of this new novel idea by Google.
Are you comfortable with rooting and installing custom ROMs?
Yes I feel comfortable installing custom Roms I just figured since even ASOP Roms have issues like Bluetooth not working well it was best just to get the Google edition GS4 but I guess if I do get a Google edition version I would loose the ability to switch back and forth from touch wiz and stock lol. Really liking the look and feel of the GS4 but man is it laggy as hell
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Yes I feel comfortable installing custom Roms I just figured since even ASOP Roms have issues like Bluetooth not working well it was best just to get the Google edition GS4 but I guess if I do get a Google edition version I would loose the ability to switch back and forth from touch wiz and stock lol. Really liking the look and feel of the GS4 but man is it laggy as hell
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I'm in the same boat. I'm leaning towards returning my S4 to ATT and buying the more expensive google edition.
Touchwiz is such an unbelievably laggy piece of garbage that I think I'm willing to pay the extra money. Tough decision though.
Custom roms on the ATT version is obviously an option, but that is a hassle and never as smooth/reliable/stable an experience as I've had with my Nexus 4.
Decisions, decisions....
Save you're money. .... roms from the ge edition will be ported over. You won't lose anything in the process.
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toptekjon said:
I'm in the same boat. I'm leaning towards returning my S4 to ATT and buying the more expensive google edition.
Touchwiz is such an unbelievably laggy piece of garbage that I think I'm willing to pay the extra money. Tough decision though.
Custom roms on the ATT version is obviously an option, but that is a hassle and never as smooth/reliable/stable an experience as I've had with my Nexus 4.
Decisions, decisions....
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Yea I decided that I will be returning my At&T version of the GS4 and buy the GE version.. I have been using Task650 AOKP rom and love it but I have had some few random reboots so yea its not perfectly stable plus I won't be missing Touchwiz at all. I also did pay off contract price for Att GS4 so I will be saving 50$ since the GE is only 16gb compared to my 32gb.
I hope they have it in color black though!
Screw that I will not sacrifice my 32GB for a 16GB. Will wait for Rom to be ported from.
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Well guys I used to have Gnex...there we had nightlies,mods,ports,milestones,kernels and latest google updates...life was so fun..I became flashaholic...and then I bought gt-i9500...thought it will have a great developer supoort and if not nightlies I'll have good number of interesting roms to flash.but I was realky realky disappointed when I see 6 roms only . I'm not saying that these rons are not good..no way...all of them are great and stable...but when I see s3 forum and htc one forum or even gt-i9505 forum I realky regret buying this phone.who else does??
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It's all because of Samsung...I mean come on guys...u create a chipset and you're not sure about its effectiveness or whateva the reason is that you declare 9505 the "international" version??it has never happened in the past.samsung is surely losing grounds or at least surely is nervous by htc one and the xperia coming one after another that you create exynos then u say no we'll put snapdragon thing in the other model and then again u say no let's have a snapdragon 800..and then u put a bulky camera in it and call it zoom and then u put tight screws in it and call it the Active...one is so much cinfused in all this GALAXY that I start thinking s4 is a GALAXY within already congested galaxy.
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well, just to throw another opinion out there...i chose the s4 because i was looking forward to a phone that will just work straight out of the box, stock rom, without having to try custom firmware and roms just to get any sort of use out of the thing. other android phones i've used have awful battery life and all sorts of system instabilities and bugs. it's nice to finally have a phone that just works, does what it's supposed to do and i don't have to worry about switching off all the smart features because of battery life. only thing i'm waiting for now is the a2sd update so i can free a little more mem for apps. but with 64gb sd card, i have loads of room for music and videos. definitely the best stock rom/device i've had so far.
That is quite well said bro..this device is a beast in itself..but everybody has different expectations and differebt priorities. At least samsung should have overhauled the UI..
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im dissappointed because s4 has no hdr video, there is weird lag in shutter sound, and i dont understand why they couldn put a 3100mAh battery, there is a plenty of space in such big phone :/
Not really disappoi but the predictive text acts like it's drunk all the time
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Disappointed by stuttering in some games, which really should be flying. (granny smith, rr3...)
This might be shallow for some but I'm disappointed cause you can't have lockscreen widgets on stock firmware
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Well first of all, GNex was Nexus. It makes it a lot easier if devs are working on Nexus. Also GNex was a lot cheaper and this led to more users. Generally if there are more users, the development blooms. You can't really compare your i9500 or even i9505 against the development of any Nexus phone.
S3 has been out for a lot longer than S4 and now you are really comparing these two's development?
HTC One and i9505 have more developments going on because simply they have more users and also AOSP devs have more experiences with Snapdragon from phones like Nexus 4.
I don't know how you bought i9500 but I'm going to assume that you bought it off-contract for like $700. Very small amount of people would actually go this route instead of just paying $200 with contract.
I should buy s3... Is the same..
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conics said:
This might be shallow for some but I'm disappointed cause you can't have lockscreen widgets on stock firmware
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?? I guess u were trying to say something else..
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deaffob said:
Well first of all, GNex was Nexus. It makes it a lot easier if devs are working on Nexus. Also GNex was a lot cheaper and this led to more users. Generally if there are more users, the development blooms. You can't really compare your i9500 or even i9505 against the development of any Nexus phone.
S3 has been out for a lot longer than S4 and now you are really comparing these two's development?
HTC One and i9505 have more developments going on because simply they have more users and also AOSP devs have more experiences with Snapdragon from phones like Nexus 4.
I don't know how you bought i9500 but I'm going to assume that you bought it off-contract for like $700. Very small amount of people would actually go this route instead of just paying $200 with contract.
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Agree with evrything except..s4 or s3 or s2(mayb evn s1) sold more than any nexus phone..so no,,none of the nexus devices hs more users than any of the mentioned phones..
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?? I guess u were trying to say something else..
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Agree with evrything except..s4 or s3 or s2(mayb evn s1) sold more than any nexus phone..so no,,none of the nexus devices hs more users than any of the mentioned phones..
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Nexus always had source and the last couple of nexii may very very have sold more than the i9500. A lot less people own them compared to i9505 and many Devs have shied away from phones with no source.
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I have a Gnexus and a N4 at home at the moment. I gave them to gf and kids.
Am I disappointed of my 9500? Not at all, everything is better than my old N4 from screen to battery life.
Yea i have less rom to flash, but I don't care, I have one without bloatware that's running great, fast.
Here they're selling the 9505, so I imported my GT-I9500, paid 150$ more than what 9505 would've cost me. And I would redo it tomorrow without hesitation if I needed to.
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i love my S4, only dissapointment would be the purple tint i get at low brightness and maybe the touchwiz ui crappy looks besides that my 9500 is a monster
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I was also using a GNex befor i bought my 9500.. i got bored of aosp.. so bought a touchwiz device.. but now i miss aosp so much..
But thanks to vertumus, his themes looks awesome like the good old aosps
Hope aosp or atlease cm releases soon..
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With all of Samsung`s latest android tablet`s having stereo front facing speakers, i think they dropped the ball, Letting HTC get the first stereo phone, i would have bought the S4 instead of the One if they had.
John.
I just switched from the 9500 to the htc one a few days ago.
I had a note 1. I enjoyed it for a few years. I wanted an updated experience that felt fresh and snappy and provided something slightly different. The s4 just did not do this for me.
Is it a good phone? absolutely.
But for me it didnt do anything i was left wanting.
The htc one has provided me with what i was looking for. Absolutely blazing UI theres no stutter or lag in any form or in any function. An enhanced sound experience vis a vis the boomsound speakers.
Zoe. - its fun
Premium finish - seriously its just so superbly crafted.
I think what most S4 I9500 user longing for was an absolute support from Samsung. An update that would really fix issues. Devs could only do as much. Fws came flying out from Samsung lab that does nothing.
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why do you need more custom roms, kernels, mods to consider it a good device?
the i9500 has fewer roms, kernels but those developments are unique that you cant find it in the i9505 dev's threads. especially the Persues Kernel from Andrei, the screen/sound mods are the true original works that others dont have. and i have seen users from 9505 going to Persues's/Wanam's Thread asking to port their mods to i9505 just because they dont have those unique features even they have more roms/kernels.
i upgraded from n2 to s4 because i know Andrei, Wanam, Indie are there. and their qualities are more than enough to convince me. i am lucky that i dont have to import i9500, my country is selling it
My s4 is a monster !!!
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