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Sorry, I know this topic is EVERYWHERE but I still cannot decide..
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I'm thinking of getting the N4 just cause its so cheap, however I've been looking at the HTC One as well.
Hardware wise, HTC one leads.. I love the front facing speakers, and the fact that its HTC makes it even better.. I loved the HTC Nexus One, so solid...
I'm still torn between these two phones, and I need someone to let me know what I should go for. Is it worth the extra $250-$300 for the HTC one? OR should I just get the N4?
Thanks
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Get it and don't look back. Whatever you do though, get the 16gb version. The 8gb version just leaves you with 5 gbs of usable data, and that is noooo good. I get better battery life than my girlfriend who has an s3, and I am constantly beating her phone in very unscientific tests that I run.
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The Nexus is a beautiful phone, how about getting it...and if you don't like it sell it and get the One. You would get pretty much all your money back as they are very popular
yea you could get a lot of money if you sell it afterwards just for the fact it is unlocked out of the box:good:
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xxsashixx said:
Sorry, I know this topic is EVERYWHERE but I still cannot decide..
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I'm thinking of getting the N4 just cause its so cheap, however I've been looking at the HTC One as well.
Hardware wise, HTC one leads.. I love the front facing speakers, and the fact that its HTC makes it even better.. I loved the HTC Nexus One, so solid...
I'm still torn between these two phones, and I need someone to let me know what I should go for. Is it worth the extra $250-$300 for the HTC one? OR should I just get the N4?
Thanks
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I use the N4, but if I were to get a new phone today, I would definitely consider the One. I think it's designed really well and I too like the idea of front facing speakers. I like having music on around me and when I'm away from home, I'll often use my phone for playing music. When it's convenient, I'll use my earbuds. When not, I may have to resort to playing it through the speaker. Even with the LG bumper lifting the back off the surface it's resting on, the sound coming out of the speaker is more tinny and muffled compared with my past phones. Finally, while I enjoy the design of the N4 and its liberal use of glass, it does have a certain sense of fragility to it which I don't associate with the aluminum clad One. If you do get an N4, I''m sure be unhappy. But I wouldn't mind if I could get LTE data speeds.
HTC One and the Nexus 4 are tough. If you can manage putting AOSP on the One, it'd be awesome. I'd have a tough time too.
Get two nexuses!
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I think your comparison is really not that ... Uhhhh... Justified... Esp due to the price range... If you want to decide between newer high end phones it should probably be the ONE vs the S4... Not the One vs the N⁴...
I personally do love the n⁴ but I must say the ONLY 2 things which gives it an edge over anything else is the Vanilla/prompt updates, and the reasonable price. If I had the extra money to spend I would definitely get the ONE or S⁴ Google Edition... Alas I don't tho...
So if you could get the One then I would say go for that... Just try to get the unlocked boot loader version (developer edition) so you can do as you please with roms...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
I think your comparison is really not that ... Uhhhh... Justified... Esp due to the price range... If you want to decide between newer high end phones it should probably be the ONE vs the S4... Not the One vs the N⁴...
I personally do love the n⁴ but I must say the ONLY 2 things which gives it an edge over anything else is the Vanilla/prompt updates, and the reasonable price. If I had the extra money to spend I would definitely get the ONE or S⁴ Google Edition... Alas I don't tho...
So if you could get the One then I would say go for that... Just try to get the unlocked boot loader version (developer edition) so you can do as you please with roms...
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If I do not get the Developer version of the one, am I still able to unlock the bootloader?
Edit: nvm, quick google says "Yes" to all carriers
Edit2: Still trying to decide, I CAN put down another $300 on the HTC one.. but I'm not sure if its WORTH it.. thats the problem
xxsashixx said:
If I do not get the Developer version of the one, am I still able to unlock the bootloader?
Edit: nvm, quick google says "Yes" to all carriers
Edit2: Still trying to decide, I CAN put down another $300 on the HTC one.. but I'm not sure if its WORTH it.. thats the problem
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I think it will be and I'll tell you why...
If Its unlockable then you can get to the latest firmware updates if not the same day, within say 2-3 weeks using cyanogen or some ROM who will update...
Your getting a better camera and screen and aluminium body with front stereo speakers... That's excellent hardware well worth the extra money... Because if you use the phone alot... All these factors come Into play in the long run... If your more of a casual user who primarily uses the phone as a phone... Then its probably not worth the extra money...
In my opinion my phone is like a laptop replacement... I use it ALOT... Hence I rather spend more on a phone than a Computer as the computer just collects dust with a powerful smartphone...
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Here you go - the Google Edition of the One:
http://m.androidcentral.com/google-edition-htc-one-coming-soon-vanilla-android
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Sorry if im posting in the wrong section but i was wondering after i have rooted and installed a custom rom on my nexus 4 can i still get official android updates such as 4.3 jelly bean
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Cherag Shag said:
Sorry if im posting in the wrong section but i was wondering after i have rooted and installed a custom rom on my nexus 4 can i still get official android updates such as 4.3 jelly bean
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No... You will need to be on stock for that...
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So will cyanogenmod release a version based on the latest jellybean
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So will cyanogenmod release a version based on the latest jellybean
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Yes ever ROM will
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If you are not planning to use the camera much, get the N4, otherwise go for the HTC.
Ultimately it's up to you.
Sold my Galaxy S4 today and bought a Nexus 4 again. The S4 was laggy as hell and packed with way to much bloatware. The screen, speaker and camera however we`re very good. But overalll it was a dissapointment for me. While on paper the specs look great the firmware is very bad atm so the performance is meh......
what would happen if i updated my nexus 4 to 4.3 jellybean on a custom rom like cyanogenmod
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what would happen if i updated my nexus 4 to 4.3 jellybean on a custom rom like cyanogenmod
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It would explode
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You have to keep the retail price in mind. If you get the HTC one and a new phone comes out, how popular will your phone become? The HTC one x was a good phone but as of now it's selling for around $230 on eBay. I had a galaxy nexus which was released 2 years ago and I still sold out for 280.
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So with the recent announcement of the Nexus Experience HTC One I am strongly considering the phone as an upgrade from my ATT One X+. I am mostly disappointed with the lack of AOSP development on the phone and the One is looking nicer everyday that I am stuck with sense.
Was going to hold on until the "Nexus 5" or until I could get a subsidized phone witch wouldn't be until the next gen HTC phone, but the recent announcement has got me considering upgrading now. On the other hand I dont know if I could deal with the 32gb coming from 64gb now. I have roughly 14gb of music, and alot more which I would be weary to give up.
My question to you guys is, disregarding price (the extra $50 means nothing to me) is it worth it for me to go with the developer edition over the Nexus Experience. I love the idea of getting updates right from google, but I also know I will most likely end up using Paranoid Android, CM10, or something of that stature. How long do functioning builds of these usually take to come out after Google' officially pushes their updates.
Also, if I go for either device would development for them be here, a new forum, or in the ATT one (considering I have ATT.)
So considering this should I go for the Nexus Experience, Developer Edition, or just stick with the One X+ and wait untill next years HTC flagship. Thanks in advance
Get the dev edition. 64 gb is worth it. Plus we will undoubtedly be able to flash the Google firmware to any htc one anyway.
And development for it would be here, not in the ATT forum section.
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Get the dev edition. 64 gb is worth it. Plus we will undoubtedly be able to flash the Google firmware to any htc one anyway.
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You said it yourself that you weren't sure you'd be comfortable going from 64GB to 32GB. I think you'll be happier with your decision if you wait.
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thekalby said:
So with the recent announcement of the Nexus Experience HTC One I am strongly considering the phone as an upgrade from my ATT One X+. I am mostly disappointed with the lack of AOSP development on the phone and the One is looking nicer everyday that I am stuck with sense.
Was going to hold on until the "Nexus 5" or until I could get a subsidized phone witch wouldn't be until the next gen HTC phone, but the recent announcement has got me considering upgrading now. On the other hand I dont know if I could deal with the 32gb coming from 64gb now. I have roughly 14gb of music, and alot more which I would be weary to give up.
My question to you guys is, disregarding price (the extra $50 means nothing to me) is it worth it for me to go with the developer edition over the Nexus Experience. I love the idea of getting updates right from google, but I also know I will most likely end up using Paranoid Android, CM10, or something of that stature. How long do functioning builds of these usually take to come out after Google' officially pushes their updates.
Also, if I go for either device would development for them be here, a new forum, or in the ATT one (considering I have ATT.)
So considering this should I go for the Nexus Experience, Developer Edition, or just stick with the One X+ and wait untill next years HTC flagship. Thanks in advance
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Without a doubt I would get the 64 gb Developer Edition. This is what I have
and I love it. Its fantastic.....
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cc999 said:
Without a doubt I would get the 64 gb Developer Edition. This is what I have
and I love it. Its fantastic.....
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Soon as I get my subsidy back, in August, I'm selling off my 32GB and getting the 64.
With the nexus edition, you wouldn't be able to use your camera to it's full potential. No first experience, but I have read that photos from the One running cm10.1 have terrible quality and I have a hunch that Zoe wouldn't work too.
So if you find yourself snapping lots of pictures especially on children and pets/animals, you would likely be disappointed as Zoe can be a godsend
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With the nexus edition, you wouldn't be able to use your camera to it's full potential. No first experience, but I have read that photos from the One running cm10.1 have terrible quality and I have a hunch that Zoe wouldn't work too.
So if you find yourself snapping lots of pictures especially on children and pets/animals, you would likely be disappointed as Zoe can be a godsend
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Yeah but, if you want Sense, you can just flash it (we are on XDA after all). I think the real deciding factor here is the increased storage space.
I read that htc is going to make the camera work well in the aosp version. Probably not as good but probably better than cm10.1 or something.
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i say dev edition ftw
The only real thing that I loved about the nexus line besides timely updates was pricing. Since there is no price break I would stick with the dev version. You can flash asop on this puppy anyway
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The extra 64gb is definitely worth it if you're going to hang on to the phone for a while. I know they keep saying space will be irrelevant with the cloud taking over, but the cloud is hard to get to while on a 13 hour flight. :good:
Thanks for the advice everybody, looks like I'll be going with the Dev version. So will development for the dev version be here? Or on the ATT forum section since I will be using it on AT&T?
Also on an unrelated note, is there anyway to set the options key to a long hold of the back button in AOSP based roms. I know its possible in some sense based roms, but just curious. If not, apart from setting it to the HTC logo, how do you guys deal with the lack of a menu key. Does that hamper you experience with this phone?
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Thanks for the advice everybody, looks like I'll be going with the Dev version. So will development for the dev version be here? Or on the ATT forum section since I will be using it on AT&T?
Also on an unrelated note, is there anyway to set the options key to a long hold of the back button in AOSP based roms. I know its possible in some sense based roms, but just curious. If not, apart from setting it to the HTC logo, how do you guys deal with the lack of a menu key. Does that hamper you experience with this phone?
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yeah get the dev version and you get the best of both worlds with 64gb.
The development is on both forums, actually they were going to be merged as the tmo, att and dev are basically the same phone. There are more roms on this side, though.
I would only suggest you to flash only att radios for a best experience :good:
Never had to flash radios before. Where do I find them, I looked on both forums already but could find nothing about ATT Radios.
I'm having a really hard time deciding between the at&t version of the S4, and the soon to be released "Google Edition" of the S4.
I have the ATT version now, and running TouchWiz, it's one of the laggiest phones I've ever used! Non stop lag throughout the UI, and particularly in the SMS app of all places...the keyboard freezes completely and the S4 just runs like absolute dogs**t.
I've disabled everything that can be and that helps quite a bit, but I still have lag.
I definitely want the stock android experience and understand I'd lose some features from the touchwiz/carrier version, which I am fine with.
Where' I have a hard time deciding is on cost. The carrier version is $250 for 32gb for me, vs the $650 google edition.
What do people here think? Will the carrier verision be able to run STOCK android every bit as well as the one google releases? I want as flawless a phone as possible. My nexus 4 is amazing, except for the terrible battery life and lack of LTE, so I want an S4 that will run android as well as the nexus.
Will the carrier S4 handle the google edition rom once that's (hopefully) released? Any stability or performance issues I should be aware of?
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I'm having a really hard time deciding between the at&t version of the S4, and the soon to be released "Google Edition" of the S4.
I have the ATT version now, and running TouchWiz, it's one of the laggiest phones I've ever used! Non stop lag throughout the UI, and particularly in the SMS app of all places...the keyboard freezes completely and the S4 just runs like absolute dogs**t.
I've disabled everything that can be and that helps quite a bit, but I still have lag.
I definitely want the stock android experience and understand I'd lose some features from the touchwiz/carrier version, which I am fine with.
Where' I have a hard time deciding is on cost. The carrier version is $250 for 32gb for me, vs the $650 google edition.
What do people here think? Will the carrier verision be able to run STOCK android every bit as well as the one google releases? I want as flawless a phone as possible. My nexus 4 is amazing, except for the terrible battery life and lack of LTE, so I want an S4 that will run android as well as the nexus.
Will the carrier S4 handle the google edition rom once that's (hopefully) released? Any stability or performance issues I should be aware of?
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No one can be certain given ATT's behavior with the s4, but IMO it is safe to get the ATT version. My phone already feels like the google edition thanks to task650's AOKP, things will only get better for us when the GE is released
I would say the AT&T is still a worthy device. I too was in your laggy shoes. As much as I want to flash a custom ROM I am going to wait a bit before I do. Mainly, I want to see if the GE will support the added features such as the ir blaster. If they do I'm waiting for Roms to include those from the GE.
I know you have disabled a bunch of stuff already but I disabled practically everything Samsung on the phone and found replacements and kept what I wanted. I'm sure you have too.
In a short end of things while I'm still stock I am more of Nova/Google device with a back end of touchwiz. Adjusted some settings in Nova and the device settings. Its been a few weeks so I will have to look back and see exactly what I set but my laggy phone is now quite snappy.
I'd say stick it out because I personally feel confident the GE will flash fairly well on our devices. If I'm wrong then I guess I'll be waiting a little longer for a ROM I like or just a Galaxy S5 or S6.
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KY Wildcats said:
No one can be certain given ATT's behavior with the s4, but IMO it is safe to get the ATT version. My phone already feels like the google edition thanks to task650's AOKP, things will only get better for us when the GE is released
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Thank you very much for the reply. I'll give that ROM a try now...
I've used CM10 on here, but even that was a little laggy. My main reason for switching back to touchwiz though, was so that I could use my 64gb exFat SD card.
I was in the same boat. Love the s4 hate the lag but didn't want to pay the premium for the Google s4. I found the best for me is flashing GoldenEye ROM which is just the international ROM on our att model. It takes out the lag and keeps the phone like stock. Love it.
Is recommend trying it.... It'd be just like you have it now with all the features but no are bloat / lag
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CAG-man said:
I would say the AT&T is still a worthy device. I too was in your laggy shoes. As much as I want to flash a custom ROM I am going to wait a bit before I do. Mainly, I want to see if the GE will support the added features such as the ir blaster. If they do I'm waiting for Roms to include those from the GE.
I know you have disabled a bunch of stuff already but I disabled practically everything Samsung on the phone and found replacements and kept what I wanted. I'm sure you have too.
In a short end of things while I'm still stock I am more of Nova/Google device with a back end of touchwiz. Adjusted some settings in Nova and the device settings. Its been a few weeks so I will have to look back and see exactly what I set but my laggy phone is now quite snappy.
I'd say stick it out because I personally feel confident the GE will flash fairly well on our devices. If I'm wrong then I guess I'll be waiting a little longer for a ROM I like or just a Galaxy S5 or S6.
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Good advice, thank you.
I have disabled just about everything with the word Samsung or AT&T in it also!
Changed my animation settings as well, and running Nova on top/ in place of TW now and it's mostly tolerable.
I have a few days left to make my decision...the replies here will help. Thanks!
Cheeze[iT] said:
I was in the same boat. Love the s4 hate the lag but didn't want to pay the premium for the Google s4. I found the best for me is flashing GoldenEye ROM which is just the international ROM on our att model. It takes out the lag and keeps the phone like stock. Love it.
Is recommend trying it.... It'd be just like you have it now with all the features but no are bloat / lag
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Interesting. I might take a look.
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Other than the Smart Stay and camera, TouchWiz doesn't really do anything for me.
If those are critical to you then I'd go with the AT&T phone since it's less expensive.
For me, had I known about the Google Edition coming out, I would have waited for it and bought the AT&T but then flipped it on eBay before opening the package. To ensure I got the most $ for it. Then I'd have put a few bucks of my own into the deal and bought a Google Edition.
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Other than the Smart Stay and camera, TouchWiz doesn't really do anything for me.
If those are critical to you then I'd go with the AT&T phone since it's less expensive.
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But if theory holds, you'll be able to run TouchWiz and those features just fine on the GE.
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As mentioned earlier Task650's ROMs are fantastic 'my daily driver on the s2 forever'. I got my phone for dirt cheap with trade-in and immediately put Task's ROM on it and couldn't be happier.
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To be honest, if you have the money then get the Google edition for guaranteed openness. While I'm sure our ATT version will continue to get support and eventually a true unlock, nothing beats true pure android at heart from Google themselves in my opinion.
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Thermalwolf said:
To be honest, if you have the money then get the Google edition for guaranteed openness. While I'm sure our ATT version will continue to get support and eventually a true unlock, nothing beats true pure android at heart from Google themselves in my opinion.
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I definitely agree with you there. I was leaning that direction for a long time, but I think I've decided to keep the ATT version.
I got the 32gb for $250. I'll keep this (actually running great now with the goldeneye rom) and worst case scenario I'll buy a nexus 5 for $350 (speculation of course, but I think likely to happen) when it comes out, then sell my GS4 and possibly even make a slight profit.
Thanks to all for the advice!
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I definitely agree with you there. I was leaning that direction for a long time, but I think I've decided to keep the ATT version.
I got the 32gb for $250. I'll keep this (actually running great now with the goldeneye rom) and worst case scenario I'll buy a nexus 5 for $350 (speculation of course, but I think likely to happen) when it comes out, then sell my GS4 and possibly even make a slight profit.
Thanks to all for the advice!
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On the plus side to stick with AT&T model you get Touchwhiz support which to me is not a bad thing considering they could easily fix Touchwhiz, if they would just listen to us lol As it stands we don't know how TW will work with the Google Edition. It would make sense that it should run flawlessly on it but there's always that chance Google will play with something to keep you on there side.
I was super excited to see the google edition of the S4 during google io, after having time to ponder it, I too am wondering if it will be the best purchase. It would seem that a lot of the addidtional hardware such as the IR Blaster will not function, so Im starting to have my doubts. Thought I know in the end I will be unhappy with anything that is not up to date with android?? grrr, I just want the perfect phone darnit.
If only Google would of released a 32GB version.
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I was super excited to see the google edition of the S4 during google io, after having time to ponder it, I too am wondering if it will be the best purchase. It would seem that a lot of the addidtional hardware such as the IR Blaster will not function, so Im starting to have my doubts. Thought I know in the end I will be unhappy with anything that is not up to date with android?? grrr, I just want the perfect phone darnit.
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You mean for a remote control?
I heard this app is good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy
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pachi72 said:
If only Google would of released a 32GB version.
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You mean for a remote control?
I heard this app is good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy
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Has anyone actually used this app on an AOSP rom?
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Has anyone actually used this app on an AOSP rom?
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Pretty sure it won't work. As of right now, there is no Android API to access the IR blaster. Rumored to change for 4.3.
Google edition actually does support the ir blaster on the s4. You just need an app to support it. Read reviews today and all indicate it works but doesn't come with WatchOn or any stock apps to use it.
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Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4 [EDIT: ROM!]
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Guzanni said:
Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
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Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4.
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Yes, I the S4 has better display and better camera. The screen is the best reason I can think of to take the S4.
But like I said, I work in a phone shop and I won this S4 and I don't get to choose between the normal and Google edition. Besides that, I saw that I can easily install the Google Edition rom on my S4 after I rooted it.
tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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That was my first intention to do, sell it and wait till the new Nexus comes out and but it. But now I am thinking about using the S4 till the new Nexus comes out. The new Nexus is going to be my new phone after it comes out, no doubt about it.
Treshy said:
flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Haha I understand you're jealous, I would also be I quickly checked the I9505 forums and yes, I saw a couple of custom roms are available for it. So yes, that is also something that I consider.
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Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
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Thank you for the links! I like the fact that Google brought out Google Editions of top phones like S4 and HTC ONE.
Do you mean that you bought the N4 because of the price issue? If it was same price, you would buy the S4? I would also, but the root scene behind the N4 is bigger, you know..
Look, I like the fact that everything that has to do with root, is available for the N4. So IF I get an S4, I surely will root and would like to use AOSP stuff and custom roms, but also some mods that need root.
I don't need more space, but the bigger/better screen and camera are a plus.
I also said after I got my N4 that I would never use or buy another phone than a Nexus, but getting the S4 for free changed my mind..
maxio1998 said:
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
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Yes, I know mate, I already own the Nexus for 10 months now it's awesome.
I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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Exacly my thoughts. I don't hate it appearance and the buttons, but I like the the appearance of the N4. The hardware is undoubtly better.
Well, if the new Nexus comes out, I will sell my N4 or S4 and get it as soon as I can
Yeah, though decision it is. I am very curious about an S4 running on stock android actually. But if I test it on my new S4, and try to sell it afterwards, the price will be lower, because it isn't sealed anymore.
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I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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Thanks for the information! N4 is amazing expecially on PA with Franco. But I haven't heard about that Hospital's color profile thing, I will check it out.
But if I get the S4, I will surely root it and get a custom rom on it. I expect the S4 to outclass the N4 when they are both running on a custom rom/kernel, correct me if I'm wrong...
As a former S4 owner i can tell you that softwarewise the S4 is a total failure. It lags, stutters and opening apps and widgets takes way too long. This is soley caused by the poorly optimized software. The N4 on paper seems way less but in real life it feels much more fluid and lags are very very rare.
But that said the screen (not in direct sunlight), speaker and camera of the S4 are better.
The N4 and XDA support is a win win!
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
Del both and get the lg g2, the first droolworthy non nexus android in ages!
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Sturdy_99 said:
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
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Lol , FACEPALM !
The octa core does not mean all 8 cores are active. It's a combination of 4 A15 cores, and 4 low powered A7 cores, a BiG.little architecture.
And 2nd thing, don't rely on benchmarks as a real life performance measure, nexus devices are never good in that field, yet they offer the best user experience (my opinion).
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Honestly, get the s4 and sell it right away. Don't even open the box. Use the money to get the n5 in fall. I see u value community support a lot, so this would be ur number one option. Samsung's support is just crap. Even a Google edition cannot be compared to pure aosp experience of the nexus and is definitely NOT the same! A lot of sources are still closed at Samsung.
Don't forget ur loss of warranty either, once u unlock the bootloader. U need crap like triangle away, a usb dongle or so on to reset the Samsung counter. If ur screen brakes u might be screwed in case of RMA. With a nexus u just lock the bootloader and u r done!
Also, many people are running around with a Samsung device. A nexus is just rare and far more special
Hope I could help!
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tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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Ding ding ding we have a winner thats what I would do, but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have. The s4 is nice and I wanted it but the phone gets returned a lot at my job. Its sold the most but returned at a higher rate. I wont lie and say the s4 didnt cross my mind but the price is crazy to me. I keep phones maybe 6 months. Also keep in mind that the screen on the s4 gets micro cracks and is known for that. Known to break randomly. Didn't know till a customer told me about it. Happened to a friend of his.
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/19121
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I would say sell the gs4, they retail for up to 800$ on eBay and with that money you can buy a nexus 5 and have money left over
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Jjday7 said:
but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have.
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Why would he want to do that? As far as I understood, he already owns a n4. Why should he buy another n4 and sell the old one? I'd prefer banking the money he'd make selling the s4 and wait for the n5 or whatever it'll be called.
However, I fully agree to the rest of your post!
Greetings
Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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dj-suicide said:
Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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Nexus 5 is the best in my opinion
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Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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Depends very much on what you use your phone
if it for development - Knox is a problem
but if you use it normal - S4 is a very very good phone
this is my opinion
Hardware, camera Samsung.
Android pure N5.
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Vote for S4 for its hardware key, removable battery and SD card.
The only drawback of S4 is the bloatwares but I can remove than after rooting my phone. I do stay at 4.3
I would suggest if they are priced equal then s4 coz it is pretty nice.I hate pure android and the speakers of nexus are pretty bad.
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so then so far looks like im sticking with the s4, its just the knox whats putting me off lol
dj-suicide said:
Hi guys. What do you think is the better phone s4 or nexus 5. Ive been offered a swap for my s4. Just wondered what you guys think.
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Go to a store an try them both, than you can make your decision.
I think that the S4 hardware is nicer with more options for accessories too.
On the other hand, the pure android experience in N5 is hard to be unnoticed.
I would also recommend trying them in a retail store before drawing any conclusion.
IMHO, I would recomend S4 from T-mobile so it can hold custom rom (aka pure android) so you could have the best of both worlds. =)
Thanks for your help guys. Think I'll stick with the s4. I went to a shop yesterday to have a look A lot more features than the n5 plus like you said if I wanted I could always flash a pure android rom.
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I had the N5 for 6 months then decided to sell and return to the S4 (bought new version on swappa). You can't go wrong either way but, for me, I like the S4 hardware better...turns out the replaceable battery was something I wanted for backpacking, etc. Plus I like the S4 camera.
The N5 is pretty basic and the hardware rattling noises kinda bugged me over time...which may have been repaired in current versions...not sure.
Running stock/unrooted with most bloatware disabled AND even have been using the Google Now Launcher which is great...an exact clone of the N5 version from my viewpoint (even voice detection from home screen).
The preferred the texture of back of the N5 but I use a thin case over both phones so it really didn't matter.
In stock version...for me battery life has been the same on each phone.
as many have said...personal preference.
I would go with the N5 but that's my opinion I like the simple smooth look of the N5 not a big fan of the looks of S4 but of you keep the S4 make sure you root because my S4 lag and got wicked hot randomly and I factory reset it a coupe time plus had it RMA and keep doing the same thing I can't complain about anything about the N5 I would get the lg g2 but I like the N5 form factor better
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