[Q] best droid version and sd card. - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Just been given a HD2 so am now keen to move to droid on it..but would like a little advice first
Right here goes and yes probably has been asked before but that will be sometime a go..
Whats the best alround Droid version/rom for NAND installation and what the minimum sd card size I would need(have a 2gig currently in the hd2)
quite simple really...
all opinions welcome before I go a head and flash droid to this phone

If you'd have looked at the threads where the same question had been asked before you'd notice that the same answer is given regardless of the date: there is no right answer since it's completely subjective. What works best for one person may not work well for others.
As for the SD size, 2gb is fine for running android but you may have different needs depending on how much you use your phone for media consumption
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rom vs sd

is there any differnt between them at perfomance when using class 4
or i should wait for cooked android rom ? is it coming?
Rumours are that a ROM might be available mid sept.
I would say dive in and try it now
With the latest builds such as mattc v1.5, class 4 sd should be enough to get a decent taste of what android has to offer.
Im running it on a 'dubious' class 6 card which performs like a decent class 4 card, and I'm LOVING the android experience so far.... much more than I had expected.
Try it, you wont be dissapointed
^^^^^ completely agree with thesweeney
how can u any one know the difference where there is no rom out ....this is stupid and getting worse in the hd2 android threads
thatruth132 said:
how can u any one know the difference where there is no rom out ....this is stupid and getting worse in the hd2 android threads
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Umm, no one in this thread has stated that there is a difference between a ROM or running off the SD card. It was just a general agreement on the fact that you should load up Android now to get a taste of how it runs on the HD2 due to how far superior it is over WM. If that statement was just a generalization of the whole Android section of the forum, that has nothing to do with this thread and you are taking it off topic.
But anyways... I agree with the first two replies to you Proz00. Ever since I put Android on my phone, I have never looked back.
I am running a class 6 right now and it is wayyyy faster than the MyTouch 3G that I have. As long as you have a decent class 4, I doubt you will notice a difference. For me, it runs just as fast as WM, if not faster, and apps like linpack, neocore, and quadrant backup all my statements.
Right now I am running the froyostone clean build and I'm hitting about 27 mflops on linpack. My quadrant results just come right under the performance of a Nexus One running 2.2
So basically what I'm trying to say is, it's definitely worth giving Android a chance right now. The worst that can happen is you don't like it, and all you have to do is restart the phone and you're back to WinMo
Hope this helps.
tazz9690 said:
Umm, no one in this thread has stated that there is a difference between a ROM or running off the SD card. It was just a general agreement on the fact that you should load up Android now to get a taste of how it runs on the HD2 due to how far superior it is over WM. If that statement was just a generalization of the whole Android section of the forum, that has nothing to do with this thread and you are taking it off topic.
But anyways... I agree with the first two replies to you Proz00. Ever since I put Android on my phone, I have never looked back.
I am running a class 6 right now and it is wayyyy faster than the MyTouch 3G that I have. As long as you have a decent class 4, I doubt you will notice a difference. For me, it runs just as fast as WM, if not faster, and apps like linpack, neocore, and quadrant backup all my statements.
Right now I am running the froyostone clean build and I'm hitting about 27 mflops on linpack. My quadrant results just come right under the performance of a Nexus One running 2.2
So basically what I'm trying to say is, it's definitely worth giving Android a chance right now. The worst that can happen is you don't like it, and all you have to do is restart the phone and you're back to WinMo
Hope this helps.
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i didnt say any one did say that what i am saying is why create another thread asking which is better when one isnt out yet
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i didnt say any one did say that what i am saying is why create another thread asking which is better when one isnt out yet
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I sort of see what you mean... i think.
The OP's question was a little misleading perhaps....
The first line suggests that they think an Android ROM for HD2 is available.
But the second line of the question makes it clear (IMHO) that they KNOW there is no flashable ROM available YET.
Therefore the way I read the question is like this....
'When the first Android roms for NAND are released, will they be MUCH faster than the current SD builds? and is it best to just wait for that flashable rom rather than use a 'slow' SD version'?.
Well thats the way I read it, in which case you were unnecessarily flaming the OP?
I dunno.
either way... Proz00... just install it!
Basically he was asking if there was a a big difference with the rom and the speeds for the sd card.
Not an installable rom.
My question is why we have a Q&A thread and questions like these dont get posted there.
hazard99 said:
Basically he was asking if there was a a big difference with the rom and the speeds for the sd card.
Not an installable rom.
My question is why we have a Q&A thread and questions like these dont get posted there.
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thank you that was taken right off my lips
im wondered
i tested copying file from ROM to sd and it did around 1.6MB/s
[sd was class 2 2-2.5MB/s Bus capped to ~5MB/s]
so ROM is the bottle nech
so i asked my self if the ROM is not that fast why bother waiting for it
that all
but what about iops
Have you played with any Android based phones. Check out a Samsung galaxy s or a Droid x. Both cutting edge cpu's. The snapdragon is a little dated.
sent from my hd2.

[Debate] NAND Android on HD2: Pros and Cons

I have to say, I really don't see what all the hoopla is about.
What does NAND give us that we don't get already?
With SD-based roms, we can change, update, switch, multiboot, and mess around with everything we want without danger to our device. If anything goes wrong, just reboot and be done with it.
With NAND, we run the risk of completely destroying our device (I have been assured that's not the case), not to mention the hassle of updating and changing roms which in itself is a process that can brick the device - (again, I was assured this can not happen).
And with RAM builds, speed and boot isn't an issue anymore.
So what exactly is the big deal?
Please feel free to prove me wrong and provide some 'pros'/'yays' for NAND Android on HD2. The more we know.....
edit: In the meantime, I couldn't resist the temptation and tried out NAND. I take back everything I say, except the 'hassle' part. It's still a lot easier to change around and configure builds with SD based builds.
I don't have my HD2 yet, so it's kinda stupid to comment, but from what I heard RAM builds are not great for gaming.
I too am curious about this. I was about to flash the NAND Desire HD rom, but then thought about how rarely I need to reset my device (and thus wait for the boot-up, which isn't very long to begin with). The rom I'm using is JDMS 1.6.2, and, while I'd really like a RAM version, the thing runs really fast. And yeah, why not keep WM around, just in case it has something worthwhile to boot up with (doubtful... but one never knows). It is nice to just throw on another build and test it out, remove it if I don't like it.
Maybe someone has a good reason to flash the NAND roms... I guess, if JDMS came as one, I'd really like that.
I do, however, appreciate all the work the developers have put into this!
try it man! you will be amazed! Nand version blow every other build! stable fast !
can't give an unbiased view since ive no intention of trying a nand build/ rom.
main reasons:
i still like the option of having 2 OS's (if that's a word?), tho i haven't used winmo for some time i still want the option.
like being able to switch SD builds quickly
like being able to choose what size data img and not have to think about running out of space.
got to say tho... think it's a hugely impressive achievement what DFT have done.
interesting post, i was also thinking whats all the fuss about, but i know for some winmo is dead & buried.
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try it man! you will be amazed! Nand version blow every other build! stable fast !
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+1
You'll see the difference.
NAND is amazing, i used to get serious lag when apps are installing/uninstalling.....it took care of that and market download speeds are flying
of course boot time is only seconds. i have tried sd and i have tried NAND.
NAND is better
I flashed nand because I wanted to get rid of WM. Booting Android form the sd card made everything feel unoffical and I hated it. It's strange I know. But Why not flash Android?
Windows mobile is Lame, boring and laggy at most no matter what, specially with the weather in the background, not to mention the lame/limited UN-icandy cheezy app store. Android is pure Icandy with tons and tons of apps/tools with stability and profromance.
What can Windows Mobile do that Android can't?
I would choose WP7 over WM 6.5 and Android over all.
Android Dominates.
Battery Life is also awesome, and download speeds are actually very fast. It's like having an actual Android phone.
also i must say i am disappointed to see a thread like this, on such a day in hd2 history. after dft and the devs have put in 3 plus month of work! this is not the type of threads that should be started....SMH
dapoharoun said:
also i must say i am disappointed to see a thread like this, on such a day in hd2 history. after dft and the devs have put in 3 plus month of work! this is not the type of threads that should be started....SMH
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Well, I agree that it's an amazing feat, but I don't think it's wrong to have the question posed anyway. Wasn't it DFT that got android working on the HD2 in the first place? So we're not really downplaying all their hard work, just wondering what's better about it.
There's just something cool about being able to tell someone, "Well, I can boot into WM, android, and linux... can your phone do that?" Our phones would seemingly be less unique. Well, whatever, I only use android anyway, so I should just take the plunge.
EDIT: Sorry, I realize that there are a lot of other developers that have gone into making android work. I just can't think of specifics
Pro:
- It's fast and stable. Little perks like slow market download speeds and slow wake-up time right after locking have been solved (although some SD builds had these fixed recently too)
- SD cards are now swappable and mountable (without corruption). I like this since I had a 2GB card laying around which I'd use just to store CoPilot maps on. With Android on SD, that wasn't possible.
- Uniformity across all devices (well, almost). No more different setups for everyone, which didn't exactly easen the process of debugging and smoothing things up. Also no more problems due to SD cards.
- Battery life? Haven't really checked this myself yet.
Cons:
- Not having WinMo. Nothing I care about, I tried WinMO for about 2 days, didn't like it (as I expected) and immediately switched to Android.
- A bit harder to switch builds, but still nothing too hard or time staking. Future easier solutions may appear too.
Overall, I'm very happy with this development. It doesn't bring any shocking innovations in se, but lays the (necessary) path for an even more complete HD2 android experience.
I have installed it and believe me I am really glad I got rid of WM! It's flying and not a single glitch or error so far, I will never go back to WM! And I never had SD android b4 so I can say installation was a breeze. Cheers and grats DFT!
Sent from my HD2 NAND droid via XDA App
Yup I'm happy to hear DFT have released Nand but I still stick to RAM build as I can still switch to WinMo & Ubuntu build. It's amazing how things really work with our mighty HD2.
Nothing wrong about Nand build at least HD2 users can choose to use Nand or SD/RAM build.
can you get 2mah from running android on sd card? i dont think so..
Personally I think I'll be keeping android on my SD card for now, because I have peace of mind knowing that I can run WM6.5 (god forbid) if my android build messes up (which I have to say is getting rare, so I might consider NAND in the not-too-distant future)
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
The pros for me are that NAND is faster for me in all three builds for their categories, and battery consumption is low.
The cons however, if you're like me and install a good amount of apps say 20 or so, 100mb or so isn't really going to cut it. And for some reason i can't get superuser working, i keep trying to update it but it says it's up to date already, which it clearly is not, and it keeps force closing itself with every app it is required for.
i like the nand personally and i think it very innovative and if u read carefully and take ur time to understand u cant go wrong with the installation i am trying it right now it great and if i need to take my phone back just flash the orginal wm rom got to luv it for those who want to keep dual boot i respect that but u should give nand a shot
I saw it before but am apperantly oblivious to it now; can someone link me to NAND installation instructions? Would be grateful.
I currently have absolutely no liking of WM, so IMO dropping it has been needed for awhile now. The only benefit I've seen is netflix (lol?) and even that should be up for grabs off the android market soon enough. I want speed and battery, and from the sound of it, NAND is taking care of business.
@Truaim - regarding link to NAND install intructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

[Q] Need help with finding the right (combination of) OS(s)

Hi guys,
I appreciate most of the things I'm going to ask have some explanation somewhere already on the forum, but I'm not entirely confident I know my way around well enough to get to where i want with my HD2.
So first off, I have a UK HD2, with HSPL2 and a couple month old WM energy rom flashed. I am running Android Froyo from my SD card, and i find myself using it most of the time. Because of this it seems sensible to get Android on my NAND and stop using WM. However I'm having some problems with my phone and I'm not sure if some may be caused by android.
Firstly the battery is lasting less than a day on a full charge without using any power craving features like wifi, gps or even a constant data connection. My phone is less than a year old, so hopefully HTC will issue me with a replacement [PENDING].
Secondly, when I do want to use the data connection I find I rarely get one where I normally would on WM.
Finally, I regularly get process terminated messages while running android from boot until the inevitable low-battery shutdown. (fairly sure this is purely android)
So, bearing this in mind, I would like to have a newer (preferably Gingerbread) build of android running from my NAND, presumably requiring MAGLDR. Would this APN settings thing, and 'rooting' I've read about recently help with these problems? Also I can't find anything about gingerbread with sense and assume this is because there have been no HTC gingerbread devices yet; is this the case? If so would you recommend Froyo with sense or gingerbread without? (personally I'm not keen on the curved sense home menu at the bottom, but i like the other features of sense)
A final thing to further complicate the situation is that I'd REALLY like to have a play with WP7, and last i read it had been ported and was running without LIVE services (making it practically useless), but then not too long ago a hack to make it pretend to be a HD7 was made allowing this. Is this a proper solution which makes the whole phone like a WP7 device (with the few performance niggles here and there) or is it like a demo or a shell of a phone which isn't really usable? The 'average user' review on the front page was posted before this LIVE hack, so i'm not sure it takes it into account.
So in summary, if I could get some guidance with the best choices in having Android NAND (and possibly WP7 on dual boot) covering what preparation and fixes I will need to apply it would be much appreciated. Possibly a list of tutorials I should follow in order, or even something more customised to my situation. Alternatively, if there is a guide covering all this I haven't found, that would be great!
As far as getting NAND working correctly check out this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
And dual booting wp7 and android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
However if you dual boot wp7 would be the main os and you'll still be booting android from sd and as far as fixes and tweaks most of the time it depends which build your using I find that most of the time what works doesn't always work for others
Nintynuts said:
Hi guys,
I appreciate most of the things I'm going to ask have some explanation somewhere already on the forum, but I'm not entirely confident I know my way around well enough to get to where i want with my HD2.
So first off, I have a UK HD2, with HSPL2 and a couple month old WM energy rom flashed. I am running Android Froyo from my SD card, and i find myself using it most of the time. Because of this it seems sensible to get Android on my NAND and stop using WM. However I'm having some problems with my phone and I'm not sure if some may be caused by android.
Firstly the battery is lasting less than a day on a full charge without using any power craving features like wifi, gps or even a constant data connection. My phone is less than a year old, so hopefully HTC will issue me with a replacement [PENDING].
Secondly, when I do want to use the data connection I find I rarely get one where I normally would on WM.
Finally, I regularly get process terminated messages while running android from boot until the inevitable low-battery shutdown. (fairly sure this is purely android)
So, bearing this in mind, I would like to have a newer (preferably Gingerbread) build of android running from my NAND, presumably requiring MAGLDR. Would this APN settings thing, and 'rooting' I've read about recently help with these problems? Also I can't find anything about gingerbread with sense and assume this is because there have been no HTC gingerbread devices yet; is this the case? If so would you recommend Froyo with sense or gingerbread without? (personally I'm not keen on the curved sense home menu at the bottom, but i like the other features of sense)
A final thing to further complicate the situation is that I'd REALLY like to have a play with WP7, and last i read it had been ported and was running without LIVE services (making it practically useless), but then not too long ago a hack to make it pretend to be a HD7 was made allowing this. Is this a proper solution which makes the whole phone like a WP7 device (with the few performance niggles here and there) or is it like a demo or a shell of a phone which isn't really usable? The 'average user' review on the front page was posted before this LIVE hack, so i'm not sure it takes it into account.
So in summary, if I could get some guidance with the best choices in having Android NAND (and possibly WP7 on dual boot) covering what preparation and fixes I will need to apply it would be much appreciated. Possibly a list of tutorials I should follow in order, or even something more customised to my situation. Alternatively, if there is a guide covering all this I haven't found, that would be great!
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The battery issue is definitely an Android issue and I would recommend using a Froyo based Android build, which also has less problems with data connections. Unfortunately to say is that you might expect some problems using either Android or WP7 on the HD2, because it's still a WnMO device, although it can handle other OS's as well.
regards, Kuzibri
@SpiderVenom
Thanks for the links
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if you dual boot wp7 would be the main os and you'll still be booting android from sd
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I got the impression this may be the case, which emphasizes my question, is Windows Phone 7 on HD2 good enough to be usable, is it worth it?
@Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
The battery issue is definitely an Android issue and I would recommend using a Froyo based Android build, which also has less problems with data connections.
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Well I'm using Froyo now, and I have all these problems, and I think the battery problem currently exists on both WM and android, so I'm relatively convinced it's the battery.
Nintynuts said:
@SpiderVenom
Thanks for the links
I got the impression this may be the case, which emphasizes my question, is Windows Phone 7 on HD2 good enough to be usable, is it worth it?
@Kuzibri
Well I'm using Froyo now, and I have all these problems, and I think the battery problem currently exists on both WM and android, so I'm relatively convinced it's the battery.
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Well, I'm not really convinced that it's your battery. Check your SD Card and my advice would be: shut down device - remove SD Card - insert in to PC - backup you data to PC - do a slow format with PC - after formatting with PC, reinsert SD Card in device and power up - format SD Card with the device's SD formatting tool (windows - tools - SD Formatting tool). Power off device, remove SD Card and insert into PC and restore your data. Reinsert after that your SD Card in to device and power up again and see what your battery does. Should be much better.
regards, Kuzibri
OK, thanks, I will try it and get back to you, but this isn't the main point of my question, and I don't want the subject veering off on a tangent
Personally I don't think wp7 is worth it right now. The devs are doing great work on it but as of right now as a main OS I think because of the limitations and all the hoops and hurdles you have to go through for it. I'm sticking with NAND personally.
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Nintynuts said:
OK, thanks, I will try it and get back to you, but this isn't the main point of my question, and I don't want the subject veering off on a tangent
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you're right about that, but this can solve most of your battery problems.
Regarding WP7 on HD2: see reaction of SpiderVenom
Regarding Android on the HD2: well the NAND version is much better than the SD card one, but it's and will be a personal choice.
i personaly stick to WinMo 6.5.5 with Artemis ROM on it.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
you're right about that, but this can solve most of your battery problems.
Regarding WP7 on HD2: see reaction of SpiderVenom
Regarding Android on the HD2: well the NAND version is much better than the SD card one, but it's and will be a personal choice.
i personaly stick to WinMo 6.5.5 with Artemis ROM on it.
regards, Kuzibri
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wp7 on hd2 is as useful as it is on any native wp7 device...actually, even better than any native device, because you can dual boot with a good android build off sd card...i would suggest you first try the sd card gingerbread ram version from mdj and superram froyo from darkstone..to checkout the differences. i personally use mdj desire hd 4.6 on sd card (it cannot be replaced by any non-sense build..tried them all, but had to come back to it)and wp7 on nand...
as for the battery, try the sd card format as described above.
also..try this....confirmed to work...but no one knows why it works.. charge your phone for 8 hrs (even though it says 100%)...then switch off phone...charge for 1hr..then switch on and charge for 1hr..........you will see a gross difference in battery
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Personally I don't think wp7 is worth it right now. The devs are doing great work on it but as of right now as a main OS I think because of the limitations and all the hoops and hurdles you have to go through for it. I'm sticking with NAND personally.
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I agree completely with SpiderVenom.
Right now, you do have some hoop jumping to go through in order to get wp7 working correctly.
I'm also using MDJ's NAND Gingerbread install with zero issues and excellent battery life. It's also nice that all of the purchased android apps are usable on both of my android devices. (I have an Archos 5IT.)
Thanks for all your comments, I'm getting the impression (from SpideVenom and apallohadas) that getting WP7 going is troublesome, I would be interested to hear from people who have already jumped the necessary hoops (pakure?) to see if they think it's worth the effort. I don't mind jumping hoops as long as I only have to do it once (when I install).
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try the sd card gingerbread ram version from MDJ and superram froyo from darkstone
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I assume these are 'RAM' builds, and I guess they're somehow better than plain SD versions? Still not sure about the whole Gingerbread w/o Sense vs Froyo with Sense situation. Do others agree with these suggestions?
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Thanks, I'll try that too
Nintynuts said:
Thanks for all your comments, I'm getting the impression (from SpideVenom and apallohadas) that getting WP7 going is troublesome, I would be interested to hear from people who have already jumped the necessary hoops (pakure?) to see if they think it's worth the effort. I don't mind jumping hoops as long as I only have to do it once (when I install).
I assume these are 'RAM' builds, and I guess they're somehow better than plain SD versions? Still not sure about the whole Gingerbread w/o Sense vs Froyo with Sense situation. Do others agree with these suggestions?
Thanks, I'll try that too
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the ram versions are faster even than nand android
well, you wont get to know, unless you try wp7 for yourself..anyway, you can always fall back to wm6.5/android..its all one flash away.
I have been trying a NAND gingerbread build and it's running a lot better than froyo was off my SD, and the battery drain is reduced too.
However I'm finding android without sense intolerable. So I think I need to switch back to a froyo build (unless anyone knows of a Gingerbread build with sense).
I was wondering what's the best way of switching; Is there any way of keeping applications in tact? If not, is it possible to backup my existing NAND contents to SD card so I can flash it back if need be?
Also, is Android RAM ACTUALLY better/faster than NAND, and would it be worth having a WP7 NAND and Android from SD on RAM?
Finally, can anyone recommend a Froyo Sense RAM build? I find it very difficult to filter through the forum threads picking out the one that's right for me. I found a site which gives VERY brief overviews of the current builds, but it doesn't cover stuff like what's not working etc and not all the associated forum threads do.
isnt it a matter of personal choice...what may suit me the best may not be good for others...so its just keep trying till u figure which one is the best for yourself

[Q] Ordered a new HTC HD2

My first HD2 got all messed up and overheated way too much and it was basically useless. Before it started overheating I installed HSPL 3.0 and went crazy on ROMs. Then Android came along and basically the same thing happened again.
I loved Android way more than any ROM I ever installed, so my question is, should I install a custom ROM when I receive my new HD2, or is it best recommended to do that? If so, why?
I'm only going to use NAND Android, but still, I just want to get some opinions. Also, on my 1st HD2 I never formatted my SD card, is that something crucial or no? Because my phone still ran the ROMs and still ran Android.
Random: Should I sell this new HD2 and get a better phone that comes with Android? I'm on T-Mobile, and I've been eying the Nexus One but I'm sure that if I buy it I'll greatly regret it cause something better will come out.
CGCR said:
My first HD2 got all messed up and overheated way too much and it was basically useless. Before it started overheating I installed HSPL 3.0 and went crazy on ROMs. Then Android came along and basically the same thing happened again.
I loved Android way more than any ROM I ever installed, so my question is, should I install a custom ROM when I receive my new HD2, or is it best recommended to do that? If so, why?
I'm only going to use NAND Android, but still, I just want to get some opinions. Also, on my 1st HD2 I never formatted my SD card, is that something crucial or no? Because my phone still ran the ROMs and still ran Android.
Random: Should I sell this new HD2 and get a better phone that comes with Android? I'm on T-Mobile, and I've been eying the Nexus One but I'm sure that if I buy it I'll greatly regret it cause something better will come out.
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If you were only planning on running Android I'd say the best thing is what you suggested, try and sell it or maybe trade it for a native Android device.
But at the same time if you want to use multi OS's in the future stick with your HD2
Well IMHO, the HD2 blows the N1 out of the water as far as perfomance is concerned. Seeing as the HD2 is crazy afforadle right now, and you can put WinMo, Android, Ubuntu, WP7 and MeeGo on it, I would definately stick with the HD2.
Awesome, thanks guys
So now I would just like to know should I load a ROM on it for better performance or for whatever other reason, even though I'm planning to only use Android? (Sorry if noob question)
Also, is formatting my SD card crucial?
CGCR said:
Awesome, thanks guys
So now I would just like to know should I load a ROM on it for better performance or for whatever other reason, even though I'm planning to only use Android? (Sorry if noob question)
Also, is formatting my SD card crucial?
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please! help me with these questions
if you run android and sd card, format sd card is very crucial. You have to format it the prefer or right way. I use window mobile to format. If you run with nand, i dont' think format matter.
What dealkk is saying is formatting the sd card with FAT32 is very crucial for running android off of one's sd card. So in NAND, it's not needed to format the sd in FAT32, but it could be useful if you do.

Questions for smart people

I want to buy an HD2. Maybe.
I have several questions.
1. I HATE APPS2SD!!! i'll never use it on a phone like the HD2. How does this limit my rom choices? I know some HUGE sense 3.0 roms won't fit. Is that an issue? are there any sense 3.0 roms that fit? (512mb version t9193)
2. I don't know how much the average user is affected by having only 512 vs 1024, so this is a similar question to the one above
3. does anyone see a reason for me NOT to buy the HD2. Is it dying? is Development slowing down? Money isn't an object, but i'm stingy. The only reason I'm considering the phone is for the great development.
4. What phones is the HD2 faster than? could it compete (running a sense rom) with a Desire HD? (less ram, worse snapdragon, I know, but what's the difference really?)
I might have more later. I hope some people actually read and respond to some (if not all) of these.
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jcarrz1
I'll try and remember each of your questions but I might have to revisit when I'm by my comp.
1st I don't use apps2sd either, I do put some apps on SD that appmonster shows me to be ok to move. There are several sense 3 builds that fit but they use a partition of your SD to kind of "fit" the Rom in. Leo 512 for example will need a 1gb ext2/3/4 partitioned on your SD card. Also all sense 3 builds have a few glitches on the hd2, you can go on YouTube and see videos of what I am talking about. "i believe" if we get a new gingerbread kernal that's compatible that could fix the issue.
2nd I can't really comment since I have T-Mobile 1024.
Uh..3rd I can't see a single reason not to switch to the hd2. I almost feel its got like a type of cult following behind it and I don't see the development slowing down in the near future.
I'll have to check back later because its hard to remember all the questions.
4th this phone runs about the same as the desire. Yes I know it is a slight bit slower but it can run five different operating systems..that shows there is enough power to get the job done. I will say though if you posted this question in the evo section someone else will be telling you why to get an evo. It all comes down to what your looking for in a phone. If you want the newest best screen and speed then this ain't the phone for you, if you want something that's highly customizable then this is the perfect phone.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
WHY IS a2sd SO COMMON?
why is it that a random gingerbread (aosp or cyanogen) rom had a2sd support? this is very unsettling. People shouldn't automatically have their roms use a2sd. it should be an option because it's so slow... 512 is plenty of room.
anyone have insight? on this or my OP?
thanks

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