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I know this issue has been discussed several times in various threads but I'd like to give it its own thread so we can highlight the significance of the problem.
Before I start I'd like to point out that my last observation is based in Stock LJ4, and before that I've used several ROMs, both stock and custom and this issue, exists in all of them.
Issue:
3-4 seconds lag when opening dialer or contacts.
Now some might argue that once it opens, the subsequent times its quite instant, but that's due to it being in memory. BUT use the phone as normal for some other activities and come back to dialer/contacts and your greeted with the lag again.
This is supremely frustrating and unacceptable for a flagship with a frickin Quad Core processor! These are basics! Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Email are the core activities of any phone and if that isn't instantaneous then they've lost the point in my books.
What's worse is that all other (more heavy) apps open very quickly and operate really fast so I can't understand how Samsung can screw something so basic up.
Please voice your concerns here, this needs to be addressed.
Ps: one immediate solution where the developers can help is to hack the stock apps and keep them in memory always.
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There is already a mod that's been out for a while located here that is supposed to keep Phone/Contacts in memory (along with other multitasking tweaks).
From that thread:
mattiadj said:
In addition app phone, contacts and camera are locked in memory to make these faster to run.
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henrybravo said:
There is already a mod that's been out for a while located here that is supposed to keep Phone/Contacts in memory (along with other multitasking tweaks).
From that thread:
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Thanks for linking that, though I'm not interested in modifying the core in a major way, just locking the phone and Contacts in memory
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tanseerj said:
I know this issue has been discussed several times in various threads but I'd like to give it its own thread so we can highlight the significance of the problem.
Before I start I'd like to point out that my last observation is based in Stock LJ4, and before that I've used several ROMs, both stock and custom and this issue, exists in all of them.
Issue:
3-4 seconds lag when opening dialer or contacts.
Now some might argue that once it opens, the subsequent times its quite instant, but that's due to it being in memory. BUT use the phone as normal for some other activities and come back to dialer/contacts and your greeted with the lag again.
This is supremely frustrating and unacceptable for a flagship with a frickin Quad Core processor! These are basics! Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Email are the core activities of any phone and if that isn't instantaneous then they've lost the point in my books.
What's worse is that all other (more heavy) apps open very quickly and operate really fast so I can't understand how Samsung can screw something so basic up.
Please voice your concerns here, this needs to be addressed.
Ps: one immediate solution where the developers can help is to hack the stock apps and keep them in memory always.
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Thanks for opening this thread, i don't want a mod for every silly thing we expect Sammy should have done as a basic aspect of making phones... Mods are good im not against it, but for this issue i expect Sammy to resolve.... I mean come on... Sammy should know this before hand and should have fixed long back.... I hate them for this...
Thanks again for the guy who opened this thread...! Hopefully Samsung reads this...!
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tanseerj said:
Thanks for linking that, though I'm not interested in modifying the core in a major way, just locking the phone and Contacts in memory
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You could probably PM the OP of that thread, asking him how to tweak his init.d script to only lock the Phone and Contacts in memory, leaving out all the other tweaks.
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You could probably PM the OP of that thread, asking him how to tweak his init.d script to only lock the Phone and Contacts in memory, leaving out all the other tweaks.
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I probably will, but as the poster above me says, the point of this thread is that Samsung should not be expecting us to fix all these basic things. And 95% of the public will have no clue how to either.
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well based on how many Galaxy S devices they've sold, they probably assume that the general consumer does not care or simply does not notice it.
I care and i notice. Who cares about the general consumer.
That is why i use DW phone and contacts.
Super smooth and fast with lots of customization. I recommend it to all
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tanseerj said:
I know this issue has been discussed several times in various threads but I'd like to give it its own thread so we can highlight the significance of the problem.
Before I start I'd like to point out that my last observation is based in Stock LJ4, and before that I've used several ROMs, both stock and custom and this issue, exists in all of them.
Issue:
3-4 seconds lag when opening dialer or contacts.
Now some might argue that once it opens, the subsequent times its quite instant, but that's due to it being in memory. BUT use the phone as normal for some other activities and come back to dialer/contacts and your greeted with the lag again.
This is supremely frustrating and unacceptable for a flagship with a frickin Quad Core processor! These are basics! Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Email are the core activities of any phone and if that isn't instantaneous then they've lost the point in my books.
What's worse is that all other (more heavy) apps open very quickly and operate really fast so I can't understand how Samsung can screw something so basic up.
Please voice your concerns here, this needs to be addressed.
Ps: one immediate solution where the developers can help is to hack the stock apps and keep them in memory always.
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Using exdialer as a replacement. But yes, this is the and the redraw issue are my 2 biggest complaints from the beast. It's almost shameful when u are adding somebody to your phone book and the phone lags for a few seconds before you can open the contacts. :-\
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tanseerj said:
I probably will, but as the poster above me says, the point of this thread is that Samsung should not be expecting us to fix all these basic things. And 95% of the public will have no clue how to either.
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I agree, but I was just addressing the "PS" in your first post. .
Thanks for the thread. It is unacceptable that one of the most important functions is completely laggy. I hope Sammy read this voice and fix this sooner.
Btw, using exdialer in the meantime.
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At first, I thought that this delay is happening because the code is not properly optimized due to heavy modification to dialer and contact. But then I realize. What did they really modify? The only "touchwiz" touch to the contact app is the the swipe shortcuts; swipe to left for sending message, and swipe to right for calling (not sure which one is which because I'm now using my secondary rom LOL). I can't think of any for the dialer app. So why the hell did samsung managed the screw it up, right?
Another notable delay is in the lockscreen. But that's quite understandable. Samsung add too much features to their lockscreen, namely: Quick command to unlock, information ticker, Ripple effect, camera quick launch, etc.
Unfortunatelly it is not only the horrible lag at opening, it is more than this.
It looks like Dialer and contatcs samsung apps has been made by somebody who never has used a phone...
Look how they support t9 on dialer... It is absolutely inaceptable.
After a lot of firmware upates I have lost any hope in a fix coming from samsung and move to exDialer.
Just install it and you see what a dialer should be.
Shame on you, Samsung.
Maybe this thread should be named "discussion for Samsung core apps" or something. Then we can all discuss everything in the stock rom: like dialer, contact, messaging, and lockscreen.
This MOD fixed my contact lag in certain way.Feeling much better after lag in contact in all jelly bean rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081
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Maybe this thread should be named "discussion for Samsung core apps" or something. Then we can all discuss everything in the stock rom: like dialer, contact, messaging, and lockscreen.
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I think the General thread has been very limited while JB was in launch proccess, doing dificult to concentrate in particular problems.
Now that JB is the "default" firmware and that the General thread is more open to new discussion, I think it is better to keep that as specific as possible and open a threat for each problem we find.
As I told in my previous post, I don't has any hope in getting a fix from Samsung, but maybe if we get here enough complaints one Samsung Corp. developer read this, install exDialer, feel ashamed and learn something for the future...
That multitask fix just made my phone go slow and whenever people have lags in roms, the rom devs tell them to uninstall the multitask fix (if they included it in their rom). Ex Dialer is the way to go anyways. Always in memory, always smooth.
Totally agree....the other day a friend of mine who had an iphone wanted to use my phone for a call....and i cant express how that stupid lag had him looking at me amazed for those 3-4 seconds knowing he uses an iphone 3g....since then ive been using ex dialer....but its really frustrating for a phone marketed as being of a top notch performance.....
Yes, when I bought my S3 coming from a 3 y.o. WinMo phone I was REALLY surprised on such a big delay to open Phone/Contacs and also to switch between KeyPad and Contacs even after both are in memory.
Only thing to do was to switch to a 3rd party dealer (xPhonePro in my case, as it has the better options for displaying call logs).
I really don't understand how the most of the S3 users don't complain about this (when I stated my problem in some ROMs thread, 90% of the people seemed surprised I considered it a problem).
Also, as I use the phone to check the time at regular intervals, the 1-2 seconds delay to turn on the screen was really killing me.
Here the only way was yet another 3rd party app to keep the CPU always awake (of course more battery usage too, but during the working time I really need my phone to wake up instantly).
Those 2 big (imho) problems, keep me from considering the Note II as a gift for my dad... as I heard it is effected too.
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Yes, when I bought my S3 coming from a 3 y.o. WinMo phone I was REALLY surprised on such a big delay to open Phone/Contacs and also to switch between KeyPad and Contacs even after both are in memory.
Only thing to do was to switch to a 3rd party dealer (xPhonePro in my case, as it has the better options for displaying call logs).
I really don't understand how the most of the S3 users don't complain about this (when I stated my problem in some ROMs thread, 90% of the people seemed surprised I considered it a problem).
Also, as I use the phone to check the time at regular intervals, the 1-2 seconds delay to turn on the screen was really killing me.
Here the only way was yet another 3rd party app to keep the CPU always awake (of course more battery usage too, but during the working time I really need my phone to wake up instantly).
Those 2 big (imho) problems, keep me from considering the Note II as a gift for my dad... as I heard it is effected too.
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To the bolded item: Simple. 90% of XDA people are geeks that don't use their phone to call. They use their phone for hacking and modding. I'm sure by now you must have read posts from someone that claimed they have achieved 4 days battery life (they even got screenshot as proof)? LOL
FYI, I have one friend that is no geek just a regular user. He did mentioned to me about this delay problem not too long ago. I think it's safe to say that majority of users think of this as a problem, but they don't know how to convey their complaints to world outside their realm of ignorance (i.e to XDA forum or to Samsung guys). XDA people as I mentioned before, obviously using their phones for something else. And they count for less than 50% of the total (ignorant) users out there.
Hi everyone, I have recently updated my Galaxy Note N7000 to jellybean through kies. And the phone now is smooth in screen transactions and lot of new features added to Touchwiz, but the phone has become too slow, laggy and unresponsive. Is it happening with every Galaxy Note user or is it just me?
I mean, even the phone app is taking around 5 seconds to load, and sometimes after a call is disconnected the phone dial pad is shown broken, battery backup is reduced now. Black clipping issue still there and for me it looks like it has even become worse now. The back button has become too unrespinsive compared to working on ICS, I mean the back button takes effect after nearly 2 seconds after pressing which was not there in ICS.
Seeing all these issues I feel jellybean is not a worthy upgrade compared to ICS when we see the mobiles working. But jellybean itself is too good to see with new Touchwiz.
Is it happening only with me or is it same to every Galaxy Note N7000 user out there?
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Hi everyone, I have recently updated my Galaxy Note N7000 to jellybean through kies. And the phone now is smooth in screen transactions and lot of new features added to Touchwiz, but the phone has become too slow, laggy and unresponsive. Is it happening with every Galaxy Note user or is it just me?
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I'm on a custom ROM based on the stock JB, and its been smooth for me.
Which version did u flash? Sounds like u need to start again. Full wipe (safe kernel) and reflash. Should fix most issues.
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Actually the jb is not bad but i didnt like the TW UI at all. I like the ics version of tw. Rest i like it but still waiting for my regional update.
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lord_pmvk said:
Hi everyone, I have recently updated my Galaxy Note N7000 to jellybean through kies. And the phone now is smooth in screen transactions and lot of new features added to Touchwiz, but the phone has become too slow, laggy and unresponsive. Is it happening with every Galaxy Note user or is it just me?
I mean, even the phone app is taking around 5 seconds to load, and sometimes after a call is disconnected the phone dial pad is shown broken, battery backup is reduced now. Black clipping issue still there and for me it looks like it has even become worse now. The back button has become too unrespinsive compared to working on ICS, I mean the back button takes effect after nearly 2 seconds after pressing which was not there in ICS.
Seeing all these issues I feel jellybean is not a worthy upgrade compared to ICS when we see the mobiles working. But jellybean itself is too good to see with new Touchwiz.
Is it happening only with me or is it same to every Galaxy Note N7000 user out there?
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Same problems here. Phone feels very sluggish since i'm running XXLSZ.
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New versions will come, and you will contradict this argument.
Earlier, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 were also very unstable, wait, haste is the enemy of perfection.
lord_pmvk said:
Hi everyone, I have recently updated my Galaxy Note N7000 to jellybean through kies. And the phone now is smooth in screen transactions and lot of new features added to Touchwiz, but the phone has become too slow, laggy and unresponsive. Is it happening with every Galaxy Note user or is it just me?
I mean, even the phone app is taking around 5 seconds to load, and sometimes after a call is disconnected the phone dial pad is shown broken, battery backup is reduced now. Black clipping issue still there and for me it looks like it has even become worse now. The back button has become too unrespinsive compared to working on ICS, I mean the back button takes effect after nearly 2 seconds after pressing which was not there in ICS.
Seeing all these issues I feel jellybean is not a worthy upgrade compared to ICS when we see the mobiles working. But jellybean itself is too good to see with new Touchwiz.
Is it happening only with me or is it same to every Galaxy Note N7000 user out there?
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Welcome to the world of Samsung. *Insert Samsung sound here*
AW: Jellybean update for Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 is bad.
Same. I agree with you. I will stay on the latest version of ICS for Germany. I think it's N7000XXLRT. Only feature is Multi-Window and new Touch Wiz and Google Now.
Multi-Window - only apps which were optimized
TouchWiz - I always use Apex launcher
Google Now - Lag
I don't feel project butter.
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There is something wrong with JellyBean on the Note
my kid's friend just got a S3 Mini and that runs just fine on a duel 1ghz
the note with duel 1.4ghz takes ages to open contacts for example
very dodgy release
Project butter?
Project Lard more like
My exp with JB update was horrible
On the first day I updated my phone with JB (indian JB). I did not even rooted my phone so I used kies for the JB update, for 2 days it was running fine with horrible battery performance and on the third day when I was trying to share wifi for iPad all of a sudden it got switched off and stuck on samsung logo....
power+volume up + middle big (horrible looking button) was not working. My only hope was it was going to download mode. As I only use one number, so it become nightmare for me. After getting help from ThaiDai I was able to flash with GB.
Now I am using GB in these JB days. This note made me feel to switch to iPhone/ sony (previous phone and literally you cannot make any mistake with flashing /rooting because they they provide some excellent PC software to revive your phone).
Here is my side of the story. Downloaded and flash the Indian ROM as soon as it came online in Sammobile. Was working fine for few hours and then it started lagging like crazy. It was so bad that I went to GB, did a full wipe and flashed it again using mobile odin again and the same result.
Transition from one page to another took around 1 sec. So this time went to GB, full wipe and used Kies to update to JB (updated this morning only). The phone feels fast. Lets see what happens in few days.
The caption of the thread is true to the last letter, overall, compared to gb and ics performances. Here I refer performance, not features.
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photo editing problem
None of you have mentioned the problem with photo editor...In the ICS version, one could select part of an image and copy it to another image,which isnt possible anymore..
Also i dont think you can edit a part of an image(color,etc) since u cant select it..any way around this??
N700DXLSE
Anyone tried latest JB from sammobile for regional Singapore/Malaysia N700DXLSE??
Even my phone is lagging a lot on jellybean INU firmware! I guess we'll have to wait for a proper upgrade!
i have other problem with jb, s pen. among all the custom rom only sweet rom has s note woking fine, but other rom s note is pretty laggy. Unfortunately all of the rom still have problem with photo note and s planner(using s spen) it is so laggy(not responsive) i dont use s pen that much but just curious to know if anybody can fix it cuz jb is suppose to be butter smooth right?
kgbhatia said:
Even my phone is lagging a lot on jellybean INU firmware! I guess we'll have to wait for a proper upgrade!
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Dream about it.
My Note is after update on JB slow and laggy and make me crazy. :crying:
I tried speedmode kernels an d impovements are almost non noticable.
Almost all the problems mentioned here by everyone is true. I hope these problems are rectified in the 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 update. And seeing the news that Galaxy Note 1 will no longer be updated more than to 4.2.2 makes me feel even bad. Anyway I will thank samsung for giving jellybean at most, but, the worst part of Samsung is that it gave a very buggy jellybean update. Looks like, some how Samsung just wants to get rid of previous flagship devices.
I don't know about others but somehow I kind of like the new TW interface. Folders look pretty neat now compared to boxes in ICS. camera is a bit quicker now. Sound output from speaker is REDUCED (why???). Google Now works fine for me, even on 2G speeds Google now responds perfectly but obviously it takes little more time than on 3G. Gallery looks pretty but takes time to load every time even after being on running apps list. Radio (FM) works fine. Black clipping issue still there and is more worse than previously noticed (anyone agree on this? Or is it just me).
Multi-window supports third party apps as well, not just samsung inbuilt apps(that's good).
I am attaching screen shots of OS version and build number and etc etc with screen shots of third party apps working on multi-window feature.
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not sure if this helps, but when I went to ICS I had similar probs (V.V.V.laggy) on the GB rom and samsung support suggested a hard / full reset and that solved it.
has anyone tried that? just dont forget to backup!
hth
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Hard reset and FORMAT internal memory(in settings). It's laggy only at the beginning.
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Hi I've received my samsung s4 on 27th and while i was playing videos the phone froze and didn't respond till i reset it by taking the battery out. Also the same thing happened today when i launched need for speed game and the phone froze so i had to reset it again. Anyone else has the same problem?
What should i do? Shall i send it back and replace it?
Yea, do so. It doesn't look good.
Memz12 said:
Hi I've received my samsung s4 on 27th and while i was playing videos the phone froze and didn't respond till i reset it by taking the battery out. Also the same thing happened today when i launched need for speed game and the phone froze so i had to reset it again. Anyone else has the same problem?
What should i do? Shall i send it back and replace it?
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No just do a factory reset, load your apps back up and see if the issue persists. If it doesn't crash then the reset is enough, if it does, then send it back.
I experienced lock ups while in the gallery, but that may be due to my 64gb SD card. ( which was working fine 3 weeks ago on my note 2 )
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Same here. Camera froze 3 out of 10 times...
Can u please type what kind of device u have? Snapdragon or exynos?
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Yea factory reset it and then see how it is. If that doesnt fix it then send it back
I have the same problem. Camera crash 4 out of 10 Times. Black background looks like light violet.
Possible they are firmware bugs ( childhood disease ).
Regards
My snapdragon S4 is very laggy, stutters and freezes.
Also getting very low Antutu scores: 23000
Hopefully it's just firmware issues and will be ironed out in future updates
@Memz12 (OP)
Can you PLS make a poll so we can get some idea about the magnitude of this problem
If possible it would be nice to distinguish between variant, carrier and firmware if possible?
Hearing all this is really deterring me from getting this phone
If I helped you out be sure to hit thanks
Swyped from a minimalist S2
My device is GT-I9505. When i started Need for speed the phone froze again :S i had to reset.
experienced the same problem... camera crashes and doesn't response.. i'm using an Octa and on XXAUMDL
All of the samsung bloat is taking up space in the RAM
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same problem here
Mine completely freezed in NFS, I had to remove battery twice, huge lag overall. I've got an GT-I9505 Snapdragon from Amazon UK last week.
camera crashing or rebooting your S4 is a common problem for both 9500 and 9505, but i noticed games and apps works better on the octa version 9500 which i currently own.
Picked up the Note 3 yesterday and so far I'm loving it, however, there have been a handful of times where the device has lagged or momentarily froze. Not only does it hang, but the app crashes too. This has happened with the built-in Samsung apps.
If I remember correctly, I was bouncing around my home screen and app drawer (TouchWiz). I specifically remember swiping up from the bottom to open Flipboard, it hung, then I got a message stating My Magazine has crashed and stopped..
This is not what I was expecting from my new Note 3 :crying:
EDIT: Also, the screen doesn't come on instantly when I click the lock button. There's usually a slight delay.
yeah i get minor lag every now and then but i find that normal as i have ALOT of apps running... i was haing tw home FC, i think it FCed 3 or 4 times didnt happen again but i still uninstalled it via tibu cuz i am using nova instead... as for the waking lag yeah i get that sometimes as well but not all the time.... some widgets like the clock widget i have on my homscreen/lockscreen take 5-10 secs to load...
PS- btw this question belongs in the Q&A section, not the general section
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
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I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
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This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
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I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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You have the S800 version.
Bugs it is then, Google will have to fix the playstore, also Samsung has to fix that "My Magazine" thing, I mean it runs fast but the first load and the updating is quite slow and buggy.
Other than that, It's fast everywhere I noticed, and it should be with that hardware.
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps... but i do agree that everyone has a different understanding of the word "lag"
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
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ok now that is weird.. i should even say i haev minor lag, its more like the phone stutters every now and then
chrisrotolo said:
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
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i have that issue only when i try changing the multi window apps.. i have to touch the apps like 2 or 3 times for the touch to register
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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no the international n9000 wont get the HMP update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469610
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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yeah you have the snapdragon, the octa core/xynos chipset is in the international version.. US didnt get it
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Khizar said:
yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps...
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There's no such thing as a "SM-900" or "SM-9005" ROM. Each regional ROM is different and can have different versions of Samsung's own apps and third party apps that are bundled with it. So one region could have force closes out-of-the-box while another doesn't.
I'll give you an example. When the N10.1 came out people were complaining they couldn't import PDFs in to S Note. After researching it, based on region, there were almost a dozen different versions of S Note used in the various ROMs Samsung deployed worldwide. Two of those versions were borked and couldn’t import PDFs. And that was within 90 days of the N10.1's release. So it's very possible that the strange behavior people are reporting could be regional. OP and I both have U.S. versions of the SM-9005 but are on two different carriers. So if he's experiencing the behavior he described after a hard reset it's probably something unique to his carrier's (Verizon) version of the s/w.
Well then, poor exynos buyers, I was tempted to get one for that lone reason, no I don't regret passing it at all and getting the 9005.
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
I have power button lag. Takes a full second after pressing the power button to sleep sometimes. Clearing processes from RAM usually solves this.
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I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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letsgophillyingeneral said:
I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
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Incredibly annoying why Samsung chose to persist with this.
PaulGG said:
I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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i have had music force close a few times but nothing else. why dont u try a factory reset? i would wipe dalvik cache too but i dont know if u can do it without root.
give the n3 a chance to receive a few updates before you make up your mind. also could be initial hardware that is faulty, the very first note 2 i got had quite a few issues. sold and bought a new one few months later and that one lasted me until n3.
Just as a thought maybe a 4.3 android thing, I know when my old N7 got 4.3 it was not as stable as the previous version, also my note 8.0 and note 2 are fast more stable than my Note 3. Unloaded a load of app today and it seems better, it is fast and I am sure Samsung will issue updates. Be interesting to see how the N2 and S4 deal with version 4.3
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People, if your device lags in hangouts, while scrolling through menus, or just seems slow go get it swapped. Its not all touchwiz by any means. You have a defective device.
I just swapped mine out tonight and its literally night and day comparing the new one and the one I returned. The device is far more responsive and actually performs as I was originally expecting it to. And believe me I tried everything but then I thought to myself why on earth should I have to fix a brand new top of the line device? It was ridiculous. Unnaceptable actually.
I went back to my Verizon corporate store and they had zero issues with me swapping it out and there were no restocking fees or anything like that.
I know this has been covered in other threads but most of those have been filled with random side posts that aren't getting to the real point. So please, do yourself a favor and go get a replacement note 4 before your 14 days are up!
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+1 I agreed with you 100%.
Hmm.. weird. I m getting nasty lag in hangouts and a little hank in other places.. I went to try to exchange right now and every store is out.... I did update hangouts on 4 store phones and they all had the same lag when scrolling and sending messages.
I guess I could call customer service but I bet their sold out. Not convinced so many people have a bad device though. . Wonder if it's some software issue..
hangouts lag is not enough to warrant a replacement though. hangouts has lagged since day 1 for me on every device I've owned except a pure aosp rom or device. it's just how hangouts is. it's poorly optimized for each manufacturers skin. Samsung was typically the worst. then LG. then htc. but yeah, hangouts has been laggy since I had the gs4. my tab s is laggy too. it's a combination for me of swiftkey and hangouts. swiftkey lags awfully in hangouts, but in other apps it's ok.
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What's your instagram and Facebook like op?
junior_mafioso said:
People, if your device lags in hangouts, while scrolling through menus, or just seems slow go get it swapped. Its not all touchwiz by any means. You have a defective device.
I just swapped mine out tonight and its literally night and day comparing the new one and the one I returned. The device is far more responsive and actually performs as I was originally expecting it to. And believe me I tried everything but then I thought to myself why on earth should I have to fix a brand new top of the line device? It was ridiculous. Unnaceptable actually.
I went back to my Verizon corporate store and they had zero issues with me swapping it out and there were no restocking fees or anything like that.
I know this has been covered in other threads but most of those have been filled with random side posts that aren't getting to the real point. So please, do yourself a favor and go get a replacement note 4 before your 14 days are up!
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You really need to make a video of what you mean by "lag." Different people have different standards when it comes to describing lag.
arkgrotto811 said:
What's your instagram and Facebook like op?
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It was all bad. I don't know if I can relate it to any apps specifically as it seemed like something inherently wrong with the device's software that was loaded. Every app opened slowly. Switching tasks was glitchy and every menu scrolled choppy. It was terrible.
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hangouts lag is not enough to warrant a replacement though. hangouts has lagged since day 1 for me on every device I've owned except a pure aosp rom or device. it's just how hangouts is. it's poorly optimized for each manufacturers skin. Samsung was typically the worst. then LG. then htc. but yeah, hangouts has been laggy since I had the gs4. my tab s is laggy too. it's a combination for me of swiftkey and hangouts. swiftkey lags awfully in hangouts, but in other apps it's ok.
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To counter that, the hangouts lag significantly decreased upon swapping devices. You are correct that there was always some lag in hangouts but on the old note 4 I would open the app and watch the spinning circle for up to 3 or 4 seconds at some points. It also put my keyboard to almost a hault. And the messages glitched every time one was sent. I get none of that now which is so relieving. So in my case it was warranted bc all my issues were solved.
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You really need to make a video of what you mean by "lag." Different people have different standards when it comes to describing lag.
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It was kind of hard to describe. Honestly it just seemed slow. Didn't react to what I was doing hardly ever. There was always a delay that you could see was not touchwiz related. I had a note 3 that was stock at one point and rooted at another and both those devices were beating my brand new note 4. This for me was enough to at least go back and try a second one.
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Hmm.. weird. I m getting nasty lag in hangouts and a little hank in other places.. I went to try to exchange right now and every store is out.... I did update hangouts on 4 store phones and they all had the same lag when scrolling and sending messages.
I guess I could call customer service but I bet their sold out. Not convinced so many people have a bad device though. . Wonder if it's some software issue..
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That's unfortunate man bc a few different places in NH told me they had plenty. I would keep trying daily. And yes I'm sure they could get one mailed to you.
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junior_mafioso said:
To counter that, the hangouts lag significantly decreased upon swapping devices. You are correct that there was always some lag in hangouts but on the old note 4 I would open the app and watch the spinning circle for up to 3 or 4 seconds at some points. It also put my keyboard to almost a hault. And the messages glitched every time one was sent. I get none of that now which is so relieving. So in my case it was warranted bc all my issues were solved.
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oh that sounds worse than mine. damn.
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I think when we are talking about lags, we're talking about everything, not just one specific app. The entire phone is lags, like in settings, home screen, launching apps etc...
Mine only lags when I'm downloading apps while doing other things. If that's considered as a defective device then I can still return it, hoping to get a white one.
SketchySean said:
Mine only lags when I'm downloading apps while doing other things. If that's considered as a defective device then I can still return it, hoping to get a white one.
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Samsung phones always lag when downloading apps. I don't think that will ever go away.
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junior_mafioso said:
Samsung phones always lag when downloading apps. I don't think that will ever go away.
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so did by LG g2. was bad.
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Hey...mine doesnt have any serious lag, as some are mentioming, but it is choppy as hell when scrolling through FB, Instagram, Messenger, Hangouts, etc etc...and web pages are slow loading, even on wifi...i mean, i hated my G3 due to lag, but in these mentioned instanced, it beat the crap out of this. I hate to think i might have made a mistake trading off of the G3
Those with lag issues have you disabled all the bloatware? This was huge for me as soon as I did the device ran smooth. Switched animations to .5 and now we are rocking with no hiccups except I can't update Shealth without it FC launching.
While I think it makes sense, part of "knows" is doesn't make sense. I don't know how a device would be defective and only lags on hangouts. Hangouts lags on my Galaxy S5, Note 4 and G3. Lags on my Tab S 8.4... it doesn't lag on my Original Moto X. I'd love to get my device swapped specially if it is defective but I don't see how it could be the case.
Also, when I first got my phone, hangouts wasn't lagging. I deleted my conversations and it wasn't lagging up until I had a decent amount of messages again...
Installed an older version of hangouts and doesn't lag. I mean, how can this be the phone and not the message?
I think lag on 1 app could be more related to the app itself and not hardware issue. Maybe hangouts isn't optimized to our screen resolution yet...
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
While I think it makes sense, part of "knows" is doesn't make sense. I don't know how a device would be defective and only lags on hangouts. Hangouts lags on my Galaxy S5, Note 4 and G3. Lags on my Tab S 8.4... it doesn't lag on my Original Moto X. I'd love to get my device swapped specially if it is defective but I don't see how it could be the case.
Also, when I first got my phone, hangouts wasn't lagging. I deleted my conversations and it wasn't lagging up until I had a decent amount of messages again...
Installed an older version of hangouts and doesn't lag. I mean, how can this be the phone and not the message?
I think lag on 1 app could be more related to the app itself and not hardware issue. Maybe hangouts isn't optimized to our screen resolution yet...
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I was wondering this as well if it was more an issue on the app side rather than the hardware/OS. I have a couple apps/games which just seem to lag horribly but others are stupid fast.
Is there anyway to narrow down defective or just a laggy app?
I only see small lag in hangouts when i search for someone because it looks up also their hangouts chat that is all every other app works fine.
So im good ?
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