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Trading my white note n7000 for Galaxy Nexus GT-I9250

Should i do it? why or why not?
I want nexus for the zero shutter camera + jellybean and stock android. Tired of waiting around for jellybean for this device and ive tried all the roms, but unfortunately they have one glitch or another that just ruins it for me.
I might be trying to trade with someone on Xda (is this against ToS?) (bad idea?)
Any advice on how to do this securely/ not get screwed?
I dont really care for Spen and huge screen size, id never put either to the use they deserve, i just use my phone for communication/social networking. i used to browse reddit alot but when i discovered thumbnail viewer addon + reddit enhancement suite, that all changed. i cant even bring myself to read normal web pages anymore on my note, i just goto my laptop for reading.
I have never flashed a brick kernel. Does the galaxy nexus have a brick kernel problem? If so how to check the one im getting isnt potentially bad?
The phone itself does have small cosmetic damage. It hasnt affected the performance of the phone what so ever.
http://imgur.com/v5NIs,iqC19,CTjjL
http://imgur.com/v5NIs,iqC19,CTjjL#1
http://imgur.com/v5NIs,iqC19,CTjjL#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21nPfWY-qrE&feature=youtu.be
If you are interested, let me know.

0 shutter camera was a feature back in android 4.0.2 after that google decided to use autofocus because the pics quality was horrible... jellybean aosp runs infinetely better on note than nexus... flash cm10.... you Will regret about loosing your screen and power.. i own a nexus(wich its in a box since i got my note)
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msedek said:
0 shutter camera was a feature back in android 4.0.2 after that google decided to use autofocus because the pics quality was horrible... jellybean aosp runs infinetely better on note than nexus... flash cm10.... you Will regret about loosing your screen and power.. i own a nexus(wich its in a box since i got my note)
Tapatalking on my N7000
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Ive tried all the different cm10 roms and im very thankful to the devs. However there are some glitches i cant get over like notification volume causes all volume to mute/requires manual adjustment < annoying as hell. My internal drive completely dissapearing. Soft reboots, hard reboots, memory leaks, etc. the list goes on. I guess i just want a nexus device so i can be rid of these issues.
As for the camera i was unaware zero shutter was bad. I never looked into it i just wanted to be able to takes pictures of my baby and she moves around alot. Figured zero shutter could make it to where i could catch some photos of her since she is fast.
EDIT: what rom would you suggest?
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Doomstick said:
Ive tried all the different cm10 roms and im very thankful to the devs. However there are some glitches i cant get over like notification volume causes all volume to mute/requires manual adjustment < annoying as hell. My internal drive completely dissapearing. Soft reboots, hard reboots, memory leaks, etc. the list goes on. I guess i just want a nexus device so i can be rid of these issues.
As for the camera i was unaware zero shutter was bad. I never looked into it i just wanted to be able to takes pictures of my baby and she moves around alot. Figured zero shutter could make it to where i could catch some photos of her since she is fast.
EDIT: what rom would you suggest?
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Get cm9 its stable with no glitches until cm10 its ready remember its Just a preview,samsung its about to release jb for note so cyanogenmod team Will be able to complete the rom
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i changed from galaxy nexus to galaxy note so i have some experience about NEXUS for u:
- quality of camera is too bad (note better)
- battery life is about 3.5 - 4 hours on screen (note better)
- in all roms from stock to cook is smoother than galaxy note (Nexus better)
- more roms than NOTE
- Especially ANDROID 4.1

Project Butter on SGS3

I thought it would make sense for us to have a dedicated topic for discussion of Project Butter on Jelly Bean SGS3 rather than drown it in the other JB threads with everything else.
This is a really critical feature that we are expecting from Samsung in JB and so far it doesn't seem to be quite there. What amazes me is how Samsung have not even optimized the basic apps such as Dialer and Contacts, it's painfully slow and is such a let down on this stellar hardware... And that's on ICS as well.
With all our Quad Core power is it really that hard to get flawless performance everywhere (including widgets drawer) when a Nexus device is able to do that with now ancient hardware.
What are your thoughts?
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You misunderstood the whole thing.
Project Butter deals with how the GUI is rendered.
It doesn't speed up apps and isn't supposed to do that.
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tanseerj said:
I thought it would make sense for us to have a dedicated topic for discussion of Project Butter on Jelly Bean SGS3 rather than drown it in the other JB threads with everything else.
This is a really critical feature that we are expecting from Samsung in JB and so far it doesn't seem to be quite there. What amazes me is how Samsung have not even optimized the basic apps such as Dialer and Contacts, it's painfully slow and is such a let down on this stellar hardware... And that's on ICS as well.
With all our Quad Core power is it really that hard to get flawless performance everywhere (including widgets drawer) when a Nexus device is able to do that with now ancient hardware.
What are your thoughts?
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Project butter is present. I suggest you use an ICS Rom for a few days, then flash the latest JB leak, you will definitely notice a difference. Now we still don't have something final so chances are good that Samsung is gonna do more and more optimization before the final build. Also we can't compare the S3 with a skin ( touchwiz) vs a galaxy nexus or a nexus 7 which are running "pure" android but even with that in consideration, the S3 is still fast as hell with jelly bean. I do agree there's still a little work left to be done like the widget drawer which by the way doesn't lag for me on ics, that tells you it's just optimization.
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Latest leak, contacts load pretty much instantaneous
Not fussed about the app drawer, only go there rarely and would rather not have all those pictures cached in memory taking up space when I use it so rarely, and everything else is fast....job done

I notice it. Flashed my first JB ROM last night and instantly felt the difference!
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I am not expecting it to get faster... But smoother and stutter free.. Yes.
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really can't see any lag or stutter here at all

What's happening here is that we have two project butters'.
One is the one Google announced at Google I/O which involves triple buffering, vsync. ....... blah blah blah.
The other is the one people have imagined, super zomg amazeballs android on crack project butter, where apps open when you think about opening them and finishes all your games with all achievements, automatically.
It also makes coffee.
One is real, one is nonsense.
Most people are expecting/looking for the nonsense one when they flash a JB leak.
All I need to say is, First release of ICS on S3 was stuttery, BLG8 was smooth, there werw a load of releases between to get it right.
Give Sammy time, its not even officially released yet. :banghead:
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little

Nods is back from the pub! :thumbup::thumbup::beer::beer::beer:

Actually the part that annoys me most is the Dialer, Contacts and Messaging lag.
None of you have noticed that??
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But what i want is super buttery ultra smooth mega no lag at all like iphone which is the best phone in the world.
Lololol
But seriously guys, these JB leaks has some rooms for improvement. So let's wait for Sammy to release the final one.

I agree with OP. The phone dial up, contact is very slow. As soon the final jb announced I will definitely move to AOSP build. This is something Samsung have ignored since gs2.
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Just tried sms/phone/dialer with animations at 0.5 and 1, both ways with all the mentioned cleared from cache, so basically the difference comes down to 0.5 seconds.....I think I can just about live with a half second or so lag, and as I already said,, having these cached unnecessarily is just stupid, it's just the way it is.....it's certainly a lot better than eclair was!

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Nods is back from the pub! :thumbup::thumbup::beer::beer::beer:
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Ha ha, quite the opposite really! Just finished putting insulated slabs in the porch and bleeding the heating system!
Time for the pub now!
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little

Well I have the latest leak LI7 with latest siyah kernel, I have tweaked it and OC to 1.6ghz. i am getting high 6500+ quadrant scores and yes its the smoothest i have seen my phone run. But even with all these tweaks and such there is hardly any difference at all in UI performance it performs just like the best of ICS, I mean i don't understand what this project butter is all about what am i supposed to feel. The OP is correct there is a few jitters here and there especially in widgets drawer. so samsung whats project butter i am yet to feel it, i over heard articles say we are going to notice a difference. Let me tell you if i had ics installed left my phone on a table and some one changed everything over to what it is now jb+siyah+tweaked and made everything look the same. I can guarantee that I would not know the difference. I mean are we meant to be searching for the difference or is the difference meant to be looking for us?
Edit: And the only reason I have brought this up is because of this so called Project Butter. If that was never mentioned then i would be just like " Everything seems fine works just like its meant to, It not slow . Thats it. But because Project butter was said I am now waiting for a difference in which I would notice

Look I have the nexus 7 and this phone both running either stock jb for the n7 and latest leak for gs3.
Now they both are smooth as butter and I mean soft country crock on toast smooth.
I love the latest leak in fact it made for some reason smart keyboard pro much more smoother too!
So I do thinks its in our latest leaks. And yes compared to any ics rom leak i6 and i7's are almost perfect for me!
Sent from either Galaxy S3 intl or Nexus 7
both on stock at the moment!!

Latest leak for me is brilliant, I've come from dli5 and using my phone today has been like using a new phone. No lag, no redraw, my contacts load quick and jumping from letter to letter is immediate unlike on ics when you had to wait a second or 3 for the letter you chose to load.
Everything silky smooth here, maybe some people are just a lot more in tune to every little stutter and pause?
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I'm using omega v25 DLI7 right now. Came from ICS to 23 then 25 and I must say there has been some substantial improvements. Maybe not so much like going from GB to ICS but it really feels smoother to a certain degree and pretty seamless.

tanseerj said:
Actually the part that annoys me most is the Dialer, Contacts and Messaging lag.
None of you have noticed that??
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Indeed... and it amazes me to what level of difference in perception and expectation of the same thing are people capable of being. Project Butter in its essence is a metafor for smoothness and fluidity of the UI. It is not some utopian idea about an instantly responding UI and to look away from these quite evident glitches lags and stutters as a default behavior is to be entirely missing the point of Project Butter and being satisfied with the current Project Stutter. As much as I would like my phone to react instantly I don't need it to. But I would like it to deal with its non-instantenouness gracefully. For example if I open a contact list don't show me a half-baked version of what the contact list should be - show me another piece of UI that says to me that the list is being loaded and once you're done loading the entire lost smoothly animate it into view. No one expects to have a contact list of five hundred people to load up instantly - but also no one should care much about the device advertising it by stitching the list up of cotacts from four corners of the world. You cannot do some loading and then some drawing and then some more of both... load everything and the work your way to fluidly present other to the user.
But here we come to the real culprit: we must assume that the framework for such a graceful UI is there in JB. It is up to the developers to properly utilize it to achieve the desired effect and this is when developers must undergo a paradigm shift. Pasting an old contact app onto the new framework will bring no buttery benefits if it is not relying on the new framework that enables the apps to behave smoothly. This is I think the point at which Samsung is failing thus far. No amount of optimization will supersede the basic qualitative change - in the same way that drag racer will never have the sophistication of a luxury limousine though it will be faster and explode or fall apart every now and then - when it comes to the experience of that elusive thing that leaves the end user with feeling a level of satisfaction just by scrolling up and down the system preference list...
All this is not to say that JB is exempt from criticism as this is only a beta of the first iteration of Project Butter. I know that all would love to have it perfect from the get go and it never is so. Still, some basic stuff should work out of the box...
Sorry for the lengthy post...
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I never experienced any UI lag in ICS, so I haven't seen any difference in JB. The animations are shorter, so events seem to happen faster, but if you turn off animations on ICS and JB both, you see that they are equally fast.

lag in keyboard for JB 4.1.1

anyone found a way to get rid of the annoying lag that SOMETIMES the keyboard has in JB 4.1.1?

Try another keyboard. No kidding. Perfect keyboard pro is my choice. Its fast and customizable. Although it does take away the hand writing mode.

thegios said:
anyone found a way to get rid of the annoying lag that SOMETIMES the keyboard has in JB 4.1.1?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025155

that is why i am in no rush to upgrade to jellybean, jellybean rendered my xoom completely useless it's completely unresponsive, i won't be upgrading when i get my note 10.1, staying on ICS.

HUYI said:
that is why i am in no rush to upgrade to jellybean, jellybean rendered my xoom completely useless it's completely unresponsive, i won't be upgrading when i get my note 10.1, staying on ICS.
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JB for the N8000 is as close to flawless an update as I've ever seen. It adds a ton of new features and improves a lot of the existing ones. It improves performance too. The keyboard issue was a one time event that happened right after I updated. There's absolutely no benefit of staying on ICS.

BarryH_GEG said:
JB for the N8000 is as close to flawless an update as I've ever seen. It adds a ton of new features and improves a lot of the existing ones. It improves performance too. The keyboard issue was a one time event that happened right after I updated. There's absolutely no benefit of staying on ICS.
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yeah but how many apps do you have installed on your tablet for it to preform that smoothly? i'm not taking my chances because my xoom is now a useless paperweight, i don't want my note ending up the same way.

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yeah but how many apps do you have installed on your tablet for it to preform that smoothly? i'm not taking my chances because my xoom is now a useless paperweight, i don't want my note ending up the same way.
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Over 100 apps and 30 home screen widgets. Most of us that have the N8000 have been on JB for quite some time. If there were issues they'd have been reported.

I had lag but realised it was only when using Chrome. Using the stock browser now everything is fine.
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There is a problem with Chrome on JB i had the same issue the lags are unbearable

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There is a problem with Chrome on JB i had the same issue the lags are unbearable
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yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.

HUYI said:
yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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Why are you making such a big deal out of this? Dozens of N8000 owners have been on JB without issue for weeks. It sucks that you had issues with Motorola but that doesn't mean that every device you use in the future will have issues when updated. I have more apps and widgets than you and haven't had a single issue with JB other than the one time event of having to reinstall the language for handwriting and clear cache and data on the Samsung keyboard. Both took all of two minutes. After using JB no one could pay me to go back to ICS on the Note. What you do or don't do is your business and I'm only posting this so that your comments don't freak other people out.

HUYI said:
yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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If the xoom is that bad why not reflash ICS on it?
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stoney73 said:
If the xoom is that bad why not reflash ICS on it?
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that is the problem, you can't, idc anyways i'm getting the note next week.

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that is the problem, you can't, idc anyways i'm getting the note next week.
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why cant you exactly?

HUYI said:
yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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I did experience same way ... keyboard lagging but actually JB UK version is better than german version ... less keyboard lagging ...
but I decide to back to ICS ... keyboard typing is very responsive ...
To back to ICS is easy ... you just need re flash again with ICS Rom via odin ... some time /not alwayas after re flash back to ICS .. it will hang at Samsung logo ... :fingers-crossed: but don't worry ... just go to "Recovery system Mode" press power + down button and "wipe data/factory reset" and reboot ... and every thing will be fine ... back to ICS

still need help?
Hey. I dunno if this has been said but it takes time to read. I have also had this problem before and got the same problem again after a factory reset. Couldnt remember how I fixed it but checked the setting a bit and found a solution that at least works on the GN.
First enable developer options in the settings (to do this go into "About Phone" under settings and tap model number till its activated). Go into developer options and check the box for "Force GPU rendering". After that your keyboard should be smooth again. Fast typing is too much for the CPU? Anyways, hope this fixes your problem.

Thoughts about JB on PT-3113

So what are your thoughts about JB. So far i havent played with it alot and it seems a bit snappier but not alot though

I think its ok bit dont like the notification bar. The phone look doesnt soot the tab prefer the layout of ics. Performancenis very good though no lag
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improved wi-fi
I'm not sure, but I think the wi-fi reception has improved.

screen rotation
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
Does anyone meet the same problem?

I personally don't see much difference in performance. With the status bar moving to the top and performance about the same,I'd have to score it a -1 or a 0 at best.

i never saw any performance issue with ICS so i don't see any improvement in JB. I do love the google now / voice search stuff though.

I think some of you need to check you're TAB's.. I, like some here, have been running stock ICS (P-3113) & updated the other day (after the long wait for the official Jelly Bean update) & I noticed quiet a bump in performance. One thing that might have helped me was the fact that I did a Wipe/Factory Data Reset before I updated. I also didn't do a restore from backup, I actually reinstalled everything fresh & everything is running great so far! One thing that helps it feel faster is the fact that everything is so much smoother & jitter free now, I also notice apps open a lot quicker now.. no more little pause after touching an icon.
.:Things I like:.
Performance: The tab seems much "snappier" now.
Project Butter: The "stutter" is gone.. everything IS Buttery Smooth now!
Battery: Run time seems to have improved a little bit.. I was getting two days of light use on ICS, with JB I'm now on the third day at 44%.
Phablet UI actually isn't to bad, I thought I was going to have to use the tab in portrait mode all the time.. nope, put in landscape, disable screen rotation, done.
.:Things I don't like:.
I could do without the "shortcuts"? row on the right side in landscape mode.. Phablet UI.
I wish they would have left the soft buttons at the bottom where they were.. although, I am starting to get used to their new location now.
Notification bar at the top, really.. OKAY!?
Q: Is the root method the same as it was for ICS or has something changed.. if so, point me to the post w/the new method please. Thanks.
The TAB 2 now feels like a useful device I look forward to using every day. AWESOME.
Later, Phil B.

I'll agree with the post above. I first upgraded via kies and really didn't notice any performance improvement. But after a full wipe and reinstallation with Odin I see a marked improvement in performance. The whole UI is much "snappier" and the performance of demanding apps like NFS Most Wanted is also noticeably improved!
For those like me who hate the "phablet" look I posted a method here that will pretty much get you back to what you are used to.:good:
Oh and CF-Auto-Root still works for me!

MM2222 said:
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
Does anyone meet the same problem?
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I have that same problem.

MM2222 said:
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
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yes, I have the same problem on my galaxy tab 2 7.0 but this is not really a problem. I have larger problems after the update to JB today:
1- I can't connect my galaxy tab 2 7.0 to PC, and I've installed the Kies but no help.
2- I hadn't have much free internal memory on Ice Cream Sandwich, but it used to work properly without any app to stop responding. But JB uses much more internal memory and this made the device very slow and it stopped working frequently (apps and even touch-wiz stops working) and I had to restart it every 2-3 minutes (even the keyboard on lock screen didn't appear to enter my password). So I had to uninstall lots of apps to free the storage and now I have 487 MB free, It had improved a lot but it's still slower than the past (with Ice Cream Sandwich). the apps starts slowly and sometimes they stop working and I have to restart the device.
here are my questions:
1- 478MB free internal storage is not enough for the JB? you have more free memory on your devices?
2- I've read that some have reset the device then update it and then reinstall everything, do you think this will help?
3- what about the problem of not connecting to PC? anybody has the same problem?
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P.S. I've just master rest my device and install all my apps again and it worked, the problems are solved and JB looks good.

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I'm not sure, but I think the wi-fi reception has improved.
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I would agree with that also. I was at the Gym yesterday morning when i updated my tablet .i get a wifi signal from the restaurant next door the signal was always weak when running on ICS but after i updated it to JB the connection seemed to be better The device seems to be snappier but i think im going to do a factory reset anyway and see what difference it makes.

Way better. I like the new layout as it unifies the Android experience. Faster and snappier. Was going to sell it soon if the Note 7 comes out but I may keep it. Via OTA. Battery seems longer too. Like the status bar percentage. Like the Video Player pop out to multi task. It's just great IMHO.
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Dont like the fact that swiping between pages in menu is sort of slow!! Not laggy just slow
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Without Allshare cast, the upgrade was not worth much to me.

I like it, using cryogen would love to get the peel app back, runs smoother and faster. New to android but have been a long time fan.
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Worst JB any company will ever release.

I am using note from last 1 year. Used GB for six months then upgraded to ICS.
I am always FAN of Stock TW look.
But this time: SAMSUNG crossed limit by releasing worst, ugliest, laggy, slowest JB firmware.
When I tried JB leak in FEB. I thought that this is not ready and samsung will work on it and will clean it by little more makeup.
But bloody sammy released it as it was. I mean no cleanliness, no smoothness, no quickness.
I can feel the slow response of apps opening and closing which I never felt in ICS.
Even battery drains like HELL.
I am reverting back to ICS. I like quickness of ICS. I am not a heavy user.
I disable few apps or bloatware I don't use and ICS works awesome.
Your views.

Maybe you do not know how to make clean flash...
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JB is good for me..
Battery , smoothness, stability( with latest kernels)..
<<<The CRACKS on my NOTE shows how often it KISSES the FLOOR>>>

its very smooth in my note.even app transitions are awesome but there is lag in gallery.

Agree, battery drains like hell, many lag, hot issue... i will never buy a sammy device again
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JB is running better than ICS on my note. Its butter smooth and faster. Job done well samsung!
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Sv: Worst JB any company will ever release.
shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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Stop bashing about it? He paid for it!

Agree i am saying the same. Ics release was way better than the jb release.
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Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate

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Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
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Bloody idiots. They miss ******* simple things.

the multitask and battery life for me makes all the difference, jb is a keeper they made touchwizz my favorite. The additional mods, with clean install and no recovery of app+data do the trick for me.
maybe you guys have rogue apps or something. Check you logcats
cm is really really awesome to, my fav vanilla flavour, but those touchwizz features wootwoot. I get same free mem after bloatware remove on touch as on cm.

Agree with this thread worst software update ever. Intead it should be considered as a downgrade in software quality very much unsatisfied this time
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shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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It's true, I am the software.

It's not sooooooo bad after all, battery really drains fast but the ROM is quite normal i think.
I really like TouchWiz because we have some features like Multi-Window, S Note, Fully integration with the S Pen, etc.
Always wanted to use pure Android(CM and others) but i would miss the way to organize the apps on the Drawer as i want and they aren't non-Wiping ROMs, once that all these features are included on a ROM i would be free from Samsung ****ty updates.
Better an resonable Jelly Bean than no Jelly Bean.

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate
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Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.

Have you all moaners done full backup and wipe?
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bhatia.mani said:
Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.
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I actually like the appearance of the new icons/weather themes/wallpaper, that's why I was so looking forward to this release. But I agree with you guys, it sucked. When I bought my Note with 4.0.4, the impression it I got from it was the same as the Note II with TW UX gave me: smooooooth! I updated my Note officially through Kies, so I'm sure nothing went wrong in the 'flashing' process. I've also done a factory reset. But everything else lags except for home screen transitions, it's kind of a disappointment. S Note, Camera, Contacts take at least 4-5 seconds to load. Music player has stutters in music playback. There's a delay when using the S Pen.
But now I've moved onto a custom ROM, and it's keeping me really happy.

It's 50:50
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jakethesnakeuk said:
Have you all moanersthe done full backup and wipe?
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First of all I don't care about back up. So forget about it.
Secondly, I was using ICS with philz kernel. I did all 3 wipes and then wiped preload which says now install newROM.
Then I installed original ICS using PC odin. Then I updated JB using KIES. Then I reset internal memory by using factory reset.
If you think that this process is not good enough: then please come to india, new delhi and do it for me you moaner.
Hope every one who wants to say that full wipe do the trick. Please read this post.
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference

bhatia.mani said:
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference
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Agree with you bro. same story with me but the difference is that my friend bought an iphone.. Although it is not big as note but the plus point is that it never lags for me the next change is gonna be a iphone 5s
Ps: when you paid $600 or Inr 32000 for a phone you atleast expect that the phone should not hang.. I am very much disappointed with jellybean
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