I know this issue has been discussed several times in various threads but I'd like to give it its own thread so we can highlight the significance of the problem.
Before I start I'd like to point out that my last observation is based in Stock LJ4, and before that I've used several ROMs, both stock and custom and this issue, exists in all of them.
Issue:
3-4 seconds lag when opening dialer or contacts.
Now some might argue that once it opens, the subsequent times its quite instant, but that's due to it being in memory. BUT use the phone as normal for some other activities and come back to dialer/contacts and your greeted with the lag again.
This is supremely frustrating and unacceptable for a flagship with a frickin Quad Core processor! These are basics! Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Email are the core activities of any phone and if that isn't instantaneous then they've lost the point in my books.
What's worse is that all other (more heavy) apps open very quickly and operate really fast so I can't understand how Samsung can screw something so basic up.
Please voice your concerns here, this needs to be addressed.
Ps: one immediate solution where the developers can help is to hack the stock apps and keep them in memory always.
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There is already a mod that's been out for a while located here that is supposed to keep Phone/Contacts in memory (along with other multitasking tweaks).
From that thread:
mattiadj said:
In addition app phone, contacts and camera are locked in memory to make these faster to run.
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henrybravo said:
There is already a mod that's been out for a while located here that is supposed to keep Phone/Contacts in memory (along with other multitasking tweaks).
From that thread:
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Thanks for linking that, though I'm not interested in modifying the core in a major way, just locking the phone and Contacts in memory
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tanseerj said:
I know this issue has been discussed several times in various threads but I'd like to give it its own thread so we can highlight the significance of the problem.
Before I start I'd like to point out that my last observation is based in Stock LJ4, and before that I've used several ROMs, both stock and custom and this issue, exists in all of them.
Issue:
3-4 seconds lag when opening dialer or contacts.
Now some might argue that once it opens, the subsequent times its quite instant, but that's due to it being in memory. BUT use the phone as normal for some other activities and come back to dialer/contacts and your greeted with the lag again.
This is supremely frustrating and unacceptable for a flagship with a frickin Quad Core processor! These are basics! Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Email are the core activities of any phone and if that isn't instantaneous then they've lost the point in my books.
What's worse is that all other (more heavy) apps open very quickly and operate really fast so I can't understand how Samsung can screw something so basic up.
Please voice your concerns here, this needs to be addressed.
Ps: one immediate solution where the developers can help is to hack the stock apps and keep them in memory always.
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Thanks for opening this thread, i don't want a mod for every silly thing we expect Sammy should have done as a basic aspect of making phones... Mods are good im not against it, but for this issue i expect Sammy to resolve.... I mean come on... Sammy should know this before hand and should have fixed long back.... I hate them for this...
Thanks again for the guy who opened this thread...! Hopefully Samsung reads this...!
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tanseerj said:
Thanks for linking that, though I'm not interested in modifying the core in a major way, just locking the phone and Contacts in memory
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You could probably PM the OP of that thread, asking him how to tweak his init.d script to only lock the Phone and Contacts in memory, leaving out all the other tweaks.
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You could probably PM the OP of that thread, asking him how to tweak his init.d script to only lock the Phone and Contacts in memory, leaving out all the other tweaks.
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I probably will, but as the poster above me says, the point of this thread is that Samsung should not be expecting us to fix all these basic things. And 95% of the public will have no clue how to either.
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well based on how many Galaxy S devices they've sold, they probably assume that the general consumer does not care or simply does not notice it.
I care and i notice. Who cares about the general consumer.
That is why i use DW phone and contacts.
Super smooth and fast with lots of customization. I recommend it to all
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tanseerj said:
I know this issue has been discussed several times in various threads but I'd like to give it its own thread so we can highlight the significance of the problem.
Before I start I'd like to point out that my last observation is based in Stock LJ4, and before that I've used several ROMs, both stock and custom and this issue, exists in all of them.
Issue:
3-4 seconds lag when opening dialer or contacts.
Now some might argue that once it opens, the subsequent times its quite instant, but that's due to it being in memory. BUT use the phone as normal for some other activities and come back to dialer/contacts and your greeted with the lag again.
This is supremely frustrating and unacceptable for a flagship with a frickin Quad Core processor! These are basics! Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Email are the core activities of any phone and if that isn't instantaneous then they've lost the point in my books.
What's worse is that all other (more heavy) apps open very quickly and operate really fast so I can't understand how Samsung can screw something so basic up.
Please voice your concerns here, this needs to be addressed.
Ps: one immediate solution where the developers can help is to hack the stock apps and keep them in memory always.
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Using exdialer as a replacement. But yes, this is the and the redraw issue are my 2 biggest complaints from the beast. It's almost shameful when u are adding somebody to your phone book and the phone lags for a few seconds before you can open the contacts. :-\
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tanseerj said:
I probably will, but as the poster above me says, the point of this thread is that Samsung should not be expecting us to fix all these basic things. And 95% of the public will have no clue how to either.
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I agree, but I was just addressing the "PS" in your first post. .
Thanks for the thread. It is unacceptable that one of the most important functions is completely laggy. I hope Sammy read this voice and fix this sooner.
Btw, using exdialer in the meantime.
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At first, I thought that this delay is happening because the code is not properly optimized due to heavy modification to dialer and contact. But then I realize. What did they really modify? The only "touchwiz" touch to the contact app is the the swipe shortcuts; swipe to left for sending message, and swipe to right for calling (not sure which one is which because I'm now using my secondary rom LOL). I can't think of any for the dialer app. So why the hell did samsung managed the screw it up, right?
Another notable delay is in the lockscreen. But that's quite understandable. Samsung add too much features to their lockscreen, namely: Quick command to unlock, information ticker, Ripple effect, camera quick launch, etc.
Unfortunatelly it is not only the horrible lag at opening, it is more than this.
It looks like Dialer and contatcs samsung apps has been made by somebody who never has used a phone...
Look how they support t9 on dialer... It is absolutely inaceptable.
After a lot of firmware upates I have lost any hope in a fix coming from samsung and move to exDialer.
Just install it and you see what a dialer should be.
Shame on you, Samsung.
Maybe this thread should be named "discussion for Samsung core apps" or something. Then we can all discuss everything in the stock rom: like dialer, contact, messaging, and lockscreen.
This MOD fixed my contact lag in certain way.Feeling much better after lag in contact in all jelly bean rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081
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stfudude said:
Maybe this thread should be named "discussion for Samsung core apps" or something. Then we can all discuss everything in the stock rom: like dialer, contact, messaging, and lockscreen.
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I think the General thread has been very limited while JB was in launch proccess, doing dificult to concentrate in particular problems.
Now that JB is the "default" firmware and that the General thread is more open to new discussion, I think it is better to keep that as specific as possible and open a threat for each problem we find.
As I told in my previous post, I don't has any hope in getting a fix from Samsung, but maybe if we get here enough complaints one Samsung Corp. developer read this, install exDialer, feel ashamed and learn something for the future...
That multitask fix just made my phone go slow and whenever people have lags in roms, the rom devs tell them to uninstall the multitask fix (if they included it in their rom). Ex Dialer is the way to go anyways. Always in memory, always smooth.
Totally agree....the other day a friend of mine who had an iphone wanted to use my phone for a call....and i cant express how that stupid lag had him looking at me amazed for those 3-4 seconds knowing he uses an iphone 3g....since then ive been using ex dialer....but its really frustrating for a phone marketed as being of a top notch performance.....
Yes, when I bought my S3 coming from a 3 y.o. WinMo phone I was REALLY surprised on such a big delay to open Phone/Contacs and also to switch between KeyPad and Contacs even after both are in memory.
Only thing to do was to switch to a 3rd party dealer (xPhonePro in my case, as it has the better options for displaying call logs).
I really don't understand how the most of the S3 users don't complain about this (when I stated my problem in some ROMs thread, 90% of the people seemed surprised I considered it a problem).
Also, as I use the phone to check the time at regular intervals, the 1-2 seconds delay to turn on the screen was really killing me.
Here the only way was yet another 3rd party app to keep the CPU always awake (of course more battery usage too, but during the working time I really need my phone to wake up instantly).
Those 2 big (imho) problems, keep me from considering the Note II as a gift for my dad... as I heard it is effected too.
tacchan23 said:
Yes, when I bought my S3 coming from a 3 y.o. WinMo phone I was REALLY surprised on such a big delay to open Phone/Contacs and also to switch between KeyPad and Contacs even after both are in memory.
Only thing to do was to switch to a 3rd party dealer (xPhonePro in my case, as it has the better options for displaying call logs).
I really don't understand how the most of the S3 users don't complain about this (when I stated my problem in some ROMs thread, 90% of the people seemed surprised I considered it a problem).
Also, as I use the phone to check the time at regular intervals, the 1-2 seconds delay to turn on the screen was really killing me.
Here the only way was yet another 3rd party app to keep the CPU always awake (of course more battery usage too, but during the working time I really need my phone to wake up instantly).
Those 2 big (imho) problems, keep me from considering the Note II as a gift for my dad... as I heard it is effected too.
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To the bolded item: Simple. 90% of XDA people are geeks that don't use their phone to call. They use their phone for hacking and modding. I'm sure by now you must have read posts from someone that claimed they have achieved 4 days battery life (they even got screenshot as proof)? LOL
FYI, I have one friend that is no geek just a regular user. He did mentioned to me about this delay problem not too long ago. I think it's safe to say that majority of users think of this as a problem, but they don't know how to convey their complaints to world outside their realm of ignorance (i.e to XDA forum or to Samsung guys). XDA people as I mentioned before, obviously using their phones for something else. And they count for less than 50% of the total (ignorant) users out there.
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Annoying things samsung was lazy about in the release/build of the vibrant's software:
HTC Sense UI makes Samsung's touchwiz Interface seem like a fail sorta.
I'm being sincere and want to know if you guys agree or disagree with the below. I hope Samsung can address these issues with the Froyo release. This can make up for the cheap quality hardware build. I love the phone though. seriously. ok here we go:
Issues:
1. Switching from edge to 3g takes a lifetime
2. Slight lag in the standard software going from screen to screen (i shouldn't have to use a home replacement like adw or launcher pro for smooth scrolling)
3. The market is horribly slow to load and often says retry-connection error
4. When going into the photo gallery, old pics show first. (annoying because I have many pictures and have to go through them to get to the newest ones)
5. In the feeds and updates widget, someone may load a picture, u click on it and a tiny pic is shown (u can't *like* it or enlarge it) *Facebook action*
6. If you click on a contact, go to the media tab, let it load then click on an album, it takes you to the browser (why not fetch it within the app?)
7. When you reply to a twitter/Facebook/Myspace status update, it automatically refreshes the feed (i don't need another refresh if i didn't request it by pressing the refresh button) it should take you back to the feed
8. ACCOUNTS AND SYNC have been horrid. They work when it wants to. Always receive an error more often than not. facebook/twitter/myspace
9. Battery take 2 lifetimes to charge
I don't agree with the Sense UI making Touchwiz3 look like a fail, there are issues that it has within itself that others dislike. However, please be aware that Samsung is quite new to the game and is still developing.
The only problem I have in common with yours is the market issue which is pretty irritable.
None of those bug me.... sgs ftw
Wow dude,
maybe you got a defective device?
mine works great
ElahC said:
I don't agree with the Sense UI making Touchwiz3 look like a fail, there are issues that it has within itself that others dislike. However, please be aware that Samsung is quite new to the game and is still developing.
The only problem I have in common with yours is the market issue which is pretty irritable.
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yeah i understand, that's why i am just giving my outlook on it. Hopefully it doesn't seem like im attacking Samsung... I like their interface... it's just clearly missing a few things. I'm anxious for some upgrades
stepinmyworld said:
Annoying things samsung was lazy about in the release/build of the vibrant's software:
HTC Sense UI makes Samsung's touchwiz Interface seem like a fail sorta.
I'm being sincere and want to know if you guys agree or disagree with the below. I hope Samsung can address these issues with the Froyo release. This can make up for the cheap quality hardware build. I love the phone though. seriously. ok here we go:
Issues:
1. Switching from edge to 3g takes a lifetime
2. Slight lag in the standard software going from screen to screen (i shouldn't have to use a home replacement like adw or launcher pro for smooth scrolling)
3. The market is horribly slow to load and often says retry-connection error
4. When going into the photo gallery, old pics show first. (annoying because I have many pictures and have to go through them to get to the newest ones)
5. In the feeds and updates widget, someone may load a picture, u click on it and a tiny pic is shown (u can't *like* it or enlarge it) *Facebook action*
6. If you click on a contact, go to the media tab, let it load then click on an album, it takes you to the browser (why not fetch it within the app?)
7. When you reply to a twitter/Facebook/Myspace status update, it automatically refreshes the feed (i don't need another refresh if i didn't request it by pressing the refresh button) it should take you back to the feed
8. ACCOUNTS AND SYNC have been horrid. They work when it wants to. Always receive an error more often than not. facebook/twitter/myspace
9. Battery take 2 lifetimes to charge
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1. Doesn't for me, and this is the first I'm hearing of that. Perhaps you are in an area with poor reception or have a defective device.
2. I have no lag at all. Are you running any intensive widgets? Live wallpapers? A million things running in the background?
3. Again, that's a sign of being in a poor reception area which isn't the phone's fault. If you haven't already, I would try activating and swapping out the SIM card out for a new one if you are using an older one from a previous phone. That has solved some people's problems.
4. There should be a setting to sort by date. If there isn't, *shrug*. There are other good picture viewing apps in the market. I find the Gallery app to be very helpful in sharing pictures though.
5. Facebook makes an official app. Same goes for Twitter and Myspace. Some specific social networking actions, such as "liking" can't be done with the widget or in the contacts menu. I find the widget is good for a quick updating of statuses or tweeting.
6. If it gets you to the same point, then? The browser is speedy enough on this phone that you shouldn't need to worry about using it as opposed to the built-in apps that take you there.
7. Again, there are tons of other software in the market to use if you wish to not use the ones provided.
8. This is the social networks fault, not the phones. Facebook sync in particular works when it wants to for me. But it's Facebook's fault. Something awry with their server connections. Twitter always syncs for me.
9. Mine takes 4-5 hours from dry to charge fully. That's the downfall of having a bigger battery, you get more usage out of it but it takes longer to charge. Make sure you are using the wall charger and not a USB port on your computer (USB charging any device takes a lifetime as USB ports don't draw a lot of power anyway). If possible, turn the device off as it charges. It will charge much quicker this way. Perhaps leave the device off overnight and charge it up?
These seem like general smartphone complaints and really not much to do with the Vibrant specifically. Most of these phones have the same general minor annoyances or glitches. Sense is OK, nothing special. It's all personal taste but after using Sense for a month and then TouchWiz for 2 weeks, I much prefer TW. The Launcher and the Samsung specific apps really integrate services, social features, and Android very nicely. If you don't like the Launcher you can always use the other two big ones in the market, they work just as well. You can also use any messaging app you wish.
The hardware feels light for a reason. The heavier the device is, the harder it falls when you drop it. If you've seen all of the quality tests of people dropping the phone, trying to scratch it, etc, you would see that the build quality is amazing. The metal-looking plastic on the rim will take the most damage. Screen is scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof.
stepinmyworld said:
Annoying things samsung was lazy about in the release/build of the vibrant's software:
HTC Sense UI makes Samsung's touchwiz Interface seem like a fail sorta.
I'm being sincere and want to know if you guys agree or disagree with the below. I hope Samsung can address these issues with the Froyo release. This can make up for the cheap quality hardware build. I love the phone though. seriously. ok here we go:
Issues:
1. Switching from edge to 3g takes a lifetime
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I think this is a network issue, not Samsung's fault.
3. The market is horribly slow to load and often says retry-connection error
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Once again, a network issue.
4. When going into the photo gallery, old pics show first. (annoying because I have many pictures and have to go through them to get to the newest ones)
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This I agree with.
6. If you click on a contact, go to the media tab, let it load then click on an album, it takes you to the browser (why not fetch it within the app?)
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I don't understand what this means. Could you elaborate?
@MMcCraryNJ
Ive had 3 vibrants already.. returned two for different issues.
thanks for your reply: I have been a smart phone user for a long time and im pretty intuitive when it comes to devices and their flaws.. I mention these issues because they trully exist. I have ran into many people from different sites whom experience the same things.. i just wanted to converse with the xda family about it. You advised that i use alternate applications via the market to fulfill my desires but that's not what I want to do or feel that needs to be done. Just like the iphone, don't tell me i have to get a rubber case to enjoy the phone because of bad reception/antenna build. The perks within the widgets could be added and indirectly im asking for some extra features in which would be attainable by Samsung. if you don't speak on it, things wont ever get done because people try to make this phone seem as if its flawless and it's not.. it's ok to admit to certain issues and not sugar coat them lol. The phone has treated me very well though besides the few annoyances just like everyone has their own preferences ya know?
Originally Posted by stepinmyworld
Annoying things samsung was lazy about in the release/build of the vibrant's software:
HTC Sense UI makes Samsung's touchwiz Interface seem like a fail sorta.
I'm being sincere and want to know if you guys agree or disagree with the below. I hope Samsung can address these issues with the Froyo release. This can make up for the cheap quality hardware build. I love the phone though. seriously. ok here we go:
Issues:
1. Switching from edge to 3g takes a lifetime
you said:[B said:
I think this is a network issue, not Samsung's fault.[/B]
my response:this is samsungs fault.. no other phone has done this.. i've had about 20 phones. I have the mytouch slide and it doesn't take more than about 10 seconds to change.. the vibrant takes about 20 to 30 seconds
3. The market is horribly slow to load and often says retry-connection error
you said: Once again, a network issue.
My response: why ddidn't my nexus one or mytouch slide do this often? it's a samsung issue
4. When going into the photo gallery, old pics show first. (annoying because I have many pictures and have to go through them to get to the newest ones)
This I agree with.
6. If you click on a contact, go to the media tab, let it load then click on an album, it takes you to the browser (why not fetch it within the app?)
u said: I don't understand what this means. Could you elaborate?
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My response: when i say fetch it within the app, i mean for it to load the exta pics right in the same area and allowing me to preview them instead of pushing me to the browser to look at the pics via facebook that way. I hope im clear
ElahC said:
I don't agree with the Sense UI making Touchwiz3 look like a fail, there are issues that it has within itself that others dislike. However, please be aware that Samsung is quite new to the game and is still developing.
The only problem I have in common with yours is the market issue which is pretty irritable.
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Market issue and app lag in general is easy to fix. look up vibrant stalling thread, lag is due to how slow the storage is. By moving app storage to nand, you fix the issue, there are only a few side effects which most of us wont run into anyways.
I've had nexus one and ran desire rom with sense, I've had evo4g with sense, and older android phones with sense. I skipped Samsung phone, whatever it was called on Tmobile, the first Samsung android due to touch wiz. Hated it, was super slow, retarded looking, and buggy. When I heard about the vibrant, I was hesitant as I did not want touch wiz, I hated how it was in the past. Still got the phone, and wow.... I love it! I replaced launcher with adw because I Just like the way it looks more, but everything else is great. I actually prefer touch wiz to sense, it looks more modern, has some neat features.
Although, I do agree with you that it still does have issues, so does sense, specially espresso version of it on the slide. My girl has it, omg, I'd throw that phone out of the window... lol
My biggest issue with touch wiz now is the messaging. It lags, specially if you're texting several people at once. It also refuses to scroll up in the thread sometimes, just bounces back down. Despite it, I still love it, makes an already good looking OS, look better. I do prefer the visuals of touch wiz to sense, personal preference. Sense feels like a a fancy limo to me. Over the top classy visuals, with too much bloat, and overall is rather slow. Touch wiz is like a BMW, looks superb, just enough flare to make it look modern, still runs fast.
The lag in sense is mostly graphical, just feels choppy. My guess is that it is mostly related to devices themselves, as they are not as powerful as the vibrant. Like, oncrhe nexus one, 3d gallery loads just as fast, but animations feel a little choppy, on vibrant it is very smooth. And your issue with gallery, I think it is more android related and not touch wiz. Nexus is full stock and it uses same 3d gallery as the vibrant, it does the same thing when it comes to ordering.
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MMcCraryNJ said:
1. Doesn't for me, and this is the first I'm hearing of that. Perhaps you are in an area with poor reception or have a defective device.
2. I have no lag at all. Are you running any intensive widgets? Live wallpapers? A million things running in the background?
3. Again, that's a sign of being in a poor reception area which isn't the phone's fault. If you haven't already, I would try activating and swapping out the SIM card out for a new one if you are using an older one from a previous phone. That has solved some people's problems.
4. There should be a setting to sort by date. If there isn't, *shrug*. There are other good picture viewing apps in the market. I find the Gallery app to be very helpful in sharing pictures though.
5. Facebook makes an official app. Same goes for Twitter and Myspace. Some specific social networking actions, such as "liking" can't be done with the widget or in the contacts menu. I find the widget is good for a quick updating of statuses or tweeting.
6. If it gets you to the same point, then? The browser is speedy enough on this phone that you shouldn't need to worry about using it as opposed to the built-in apps that take you there.
7. Again, there are tons of other software in the market to use if you wish to not use the ones provided.
8. This is the social networks fault, not the phones. Facebook sync in particular works when it wants to for me. But it's Facebook's fault. Something awry with their server connections. Twitter always syncs for me.
9. Mine takes 4-5 hours from dry to charge fully. That's the downfall of having a bigger battery, you get more usage out of it but it takes longer to charge. Make sure you are using the wall charger and not a USB port on your computer (USB charging any device takes a lifetime as USB ports don't draw a lot of power anyway). If possible, turn the device off as it charges. It will charge much quicker this way. Perhaps leave the device off overnight and charge it up?
These seem like general smartphone complaints and really not much to do with the Vibrant specifically. Most of these phones have the same general minor annoyances or glitches. Sense is OK, nothing special. It's all personal taste but after using Sense for a month and then TouchWiz for 2 weeks, I much prefer TW. The Launcher and the Samsung specific apps really integrate services, social features, and Android very nicely. If you don't like the Launcher you can always use the other two big ones in the market, they work just as well. You can also use any messaging app you wish.
The hardware feels light for a reason. The heavier the device is, the harder it falls when you drop it. If you've seen all of the quality tests of people dropping the phone, trying to scratch it, etc, you would see that the build quality is amazing. The metal-looking plastic on the rim will take the most damage. Screen is scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof.
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To number 9 specifically. He's right about charging, I think its mostly done by Samsung to preserve the battery. Nexus one has 1400mah battery, I also threw a 1500mah right before I sold it. I noticed slow charging immediately on the vibrant, nexus one charged way faster. I'm used to it now though, I always leave it on the charger over night anyway. So, the issue is not with higher capacity battery, but Samsung improving the battery life, at least I think.
And op, android is not like apple, very open sourced. It is very easy to customize and there are a ton of replacement apps on the market which could help. Like launchers, very useful and don't even waste memory as default launcher gets disabled if you run an alternate one. Point is, nothing wrong with voicing opinions and hoping that Samsung will fix or improve things. But, That will take ages, and it is a long shot. Why discredit aftermarket apps? They do no harm and could really help You enjoy your phone more.
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@MMcCraryNJ
Ive had 3 vibrants already.. returned two for different issues.
thanks for your reply: I have been a smart phone user for a long time and im pretty intuitive when it comes to devices and their flaws.. I mention these issues because they trully exist. I have ran into many people from different sites whom experience the same things.. i just wanted to converse with the xda family about it. You advised that i use alternate applications via the market to fulfill my desires but that's not what I want to do or feel that needs to be done. Just like the iphone, don't tell me i have to get a rubber case to enjoy the phone because of bad reception/antenna build. The perks within the widgets could be added and indirectly im asking for some extra features in which would be attainable by Samsung. if you don't speak on it, things wont ever get done because people try to make this phone seem as if its flawless and it's not.. it's ok to admit to certain issues and not sugar coat them lol. The phone has treated me very well though besides the few annoyances just like everyone has their own preferences ya know?
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Its a shame you are comparing a hardware issue(iphone) with software issue that you are having. The iphone fails because it is hardware and there are pretty much no other options but to fix it with a case however with your phone you can install different apps. You can use other apps than stock, i keep Twitter installed due to the integration with TW however i use Twidroid im sorry Twidroyd for my day to day twitter client. This phone is far from flawless i would relate the lock/power button to the iphones reception problem however with ours there is no case fix. I think it was a poor oversight on Samsung's part to put the button on the side of a rounded housing at that!
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Annoying things samsung was lazy about in the release/build of the vibrant's software:
Issues:
1. Switching from edge to 3g takes a lifetime
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This is a netowrk parameter setting. By increasing the time between scans your local T-mobile market is increasing your battery life and reducing the paging load on the network. Everytime you ping pong between 2G and 3G you have to do a location area update so the network knows where to find you. EVeryone doing that would overload the system and some calls would not be delivered. Aka, they are probably doing a good thing.
hurrpancakes said:
I think this is a network issue, not Samsung's fault.
Once again, a network issue.
This I agree with.
I don't understand what this means. Could you elaborate?
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Shane_pcs said:
This is a netowrk parameter setting. By increasing the time between scans your local T-mobile market is increasing your battery life and reducing the paging load on the network. Everytime you ping pong between 2G and 3G you have to do a location area update so the network knows where to find you. EVeryone doing that would overload the system and some calls would not be delivered. Aka, they are probably doing a good thing.
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o ok... i just wonder why alll of the other phones i've owned didn't do this.... (take such a long time to switch?)
stepinmyworld said:
o ok... i just wonder why alll of the other phones i've owned didn't do this.... (take such a long time to switch?)
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I can't speak for markets I don't work on, but from time to time corporate changes the recommended settings. There have been a few changes specifically to the 2G and 3G interaction lately. There are also different "release classes" of handsets and they don't always support the newest "features". So sometimes a parameter change only affects certain handsets and not others.
Hi XDA, longtime lurker, first time poster. Love the forum, thanks for taking my post...*laff*
I have had a smartphone back to when they weren't phones (Motorola PageWriter). I remember the bad old days of the Pocket PC phones, how good Blackberries were with email when they hit the market and a charter G1 owner.
I can say without hesitation that the Vibrant is the best smartphone I have ever owned.
My only qualm at this point is the whole phone/google contact thing in the TouchWiz contacts app, I hate that I can't set custom ring tones or use the "groups" function for Google contacts and can't sync the "phone" contacts...I hate that, with a passion.
Seems like Samsung is treating Google contacts like an LDAP server instead of the seamless integration I had with my G1.
Other than that, I really like TouchWiz.
Competition: how many times can you lock the screen with one hand without pressing the volume button!
Winner gets a 4-am wake-up call when the battery is recharged.
The second place gets an e-mail written by my pants when the screen-lock fails to turn on, following a headset call.
Third place will get a special mod that allows you to start your audiobook player with the headset button with the screen-lock on, and the screen off (a usefull feature when your hands are not free).
Just kidding, there is no such mod, the third place gets nothing.
What annoys me the most? Appart from pressing volume button while locking screen, its the fact that all my callers are complaining that they hear echo... going to exchange the phone today...
Non of the other things bothers me... I usually sleep very hard, so 4am wakeup tone that my phone is being fully charged cannot wake me up neither my girlfriend was complaining...
I had nothing to report as nothing annoyed me till today unless when I plugged my Headphone and made a call. The Volume in a call through the headphone at even maximum level is pathetically low.But that is not the case with Earpiece or Bluetooth headset.
Regards.
What I hate about the device?Well,I wanted to buy a Tegra 2 tablet.After buying the GS2 everything else seemed slow.
Noons and people with no life being able to make threads
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tolis626 said:
What I hate about the device?Well,I wanted to buy a Tegra 2 tablet.After buying the GS2 everything else seemed slow.
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+ 10000
I can't use my x10 anymore without being pissed
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1. I can live with 1,5 second delay when waking up phone, but home button lag is killing me. I know, this ks because of voice command "feature", but what about users like me who will never "talk" to their phones (unless being completely drunk)?
2. The famous game freezes. I bought this phone mainly for gaming, but they are simply freezing or crashing to home screen. On all (official) currently available firmware versions. Thanks to LitePro, now i can play with no problems.
I had few more very annoying problems, but thanks again to LitePro who ironed them out. Also i had to delete most of notification sounds. No need to explain why
I know, my first impresions with this phone wasn't very good and i said some bad words, but thanks to this great community - i love my SGS2 now
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Lol i have never heard this fully charged sound. *g*
But the batterie drain is really heavy. Maybe i buy an extended akku.
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gergohad said:
Competition: how many times can you lock the screen with one hand without pressing the volume button!
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Every single time (see attached).
The thing that annoys me most is the same thing that annoyed me about the HD2.... whining users that complain about utterly ridiculous things on xda, opening a new thread every time they come up with some vague idea of something their phone can't do. If you want a cup of tea, BUY A TEASMAID!!!
i never hit the volume button yet i use the physical lock button
Matter of handling I suppose .oO(you're not handling it right! xD)
What annoys me is the lack of 2.3.4 update (not that I need much from it, but it feels like they're not working on it as much as on the I9000) and the lack of proper source (everyone uses the binary kernel cause the source one isnt as stable even after padding)
oh and the reason why they've hidden hw accelerated disk encryption, or the lack thereof
The fact that Driving Mode randomly turns itself on, leading to excruciating embarrassment when an incoming text or email is read out at full volume in a public place.
the wifi sharing battery drain that starts randomnly...
Lazy gits that whine and ask about the yellow triangle without even searching the threads
The stock email app, which is the only free one which works with exchange doesn't request the keyboard to bring up the spelling suggestion list - so only the samsung keyboard works with this, or using perfect keyboard and having it turned on permanently.
The stock music app hasn't been thought out well enough in that it allows you to access music bypassing the library list. This of course means using the back button never returns you to this list and they never thought to put a link in the menu to get to the music library (such a simple fix!) - solved that with player pro though
Stock SMS app not allowing you to scroll up through the messages you are replying to whilst you are replying - of course handcent gets around that.
Touchwiz launcher - can't set a different home screen, folders created in the app drawer and then dragged onto one of the home screens are now 2 seperate folders, rather than a hard link - meaning you update one, and the other also needs updating.... Thanks to Go Launcher Ex this is no longer an issue.
Tbh hardware wise it's spot on - it's just that Samsung seem to have rushed the software out.
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Noons and people with no life being able to make threads
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I found a fix for you problem: don't read those threads and don't post replies...
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What annoys me the most? The fact that I bought this phone expecting a huge improvement on battery life compared to my old phones. I'm annoyed at myself for being this naive.
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I found a fix for you problem: don't read those threads and don't post replies...
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That doesn't fix the problem of the forums becoming diluted with repeated requests. You've just suggested ignoring the problem.
i am "annoyed that wifi-sharing" eats 15% of my battery (but i still make it trough the day without problems.
i never pressed the volume button while lokcing the phone and i have never ever heard a charged noise oO
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That doesn't fix the problem of the forums becoming diluted with repeated requests. You've just suggested ignoring the problem.
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What requests? Nobody is requesting anything buddy. We're discussing things about the phone that annoy us. If you dont like this topic, try another one.
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What annoys me the most is that this phone is so nice,i can hardly seperate myself from it.
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A work colleague came and asked me to explain a few things about her new S3 today, since she knows I have one and she upgraded to it after having a little look at mine last week. She had an iPhone before.
1. Play Store default setting is to dump app icons all over your homescreens - she had about 30 icons dotted across her home screens, and she couldn't understand why they were duplicated there and in her app drawer.
2. The Touchwiz launcher default is not to alphabetically organise your apps, and she said she had a hard time finding each app when she wanted to use it
3. Some of the cool features are not turned on by default, and are buried in menus which a novice user is not going to find. Case in point, voice control of apps is under Settings in S Voice. First off there is no indication that Settings is even there unless you know to pres the menu button (not intuitive at all). If these features were turned on in the first place then the popup notifications you get when using the apps would've told her about their existence, and hence she could've been using them on her own.
4. Disabling built in apps - first off she had no idea that it could be done, she just knew that she couldn't uninstall them via Play Store like her downloaded apps, and there lots she wanted rid of. When I showed her the Applications Manager this caused confusion on three counts:
A) why is there two places to get rid of/disable apps,
B) why do you have to uninstall updates to some built in apps before the disable button is shown,
C) she didn't feel comfortable messing around in a menu which clearly has essential system apps with weird (to a novice) names such as Certificate Installer, Factory Test, Security Storage and com.android.smspush
5. She didn't really understand what a Widget was and why there was a list of them at the end of her app drawer, and how to use them. I can't remember whether the setup wizard covers widgets or not, but suffice to say if it did then she had not understood it, and dismissed it. She was scrolling to the end of the apps into her widgets and saying "I don't understand these funny looking apps - they don't do anything when I press them"... She did not see the tab at the top which detotes the difference between apps and widgets, and there is no other indication when you get into the widgets.
6. She says the battery life is not good compared to her old iPhone. After having a quick look at her Battery stats (unplugged after full charge, 7.5hrs off the charger 1.5hrs screen on time, 25% battery left) there was nothing in particular acting up, however her cell reception was burning a lot of the battery. She said that her reception (measured by the number of bars - I know, I know!) was not as good as her iPhone. So the 2 issues here are that her battery is objectively not as good, and her reception is subjectively not as good as her old iPhone.
7. She does like the camera, but was unaware of features such as panorama and shooting stills whilst recording video (and I'll mention again, the possibility of voice control). However she WAS aware that the new iPhone does these things (minus the voice control).
8. She didn't understand why she needed multiple accounts for things, Google, Samsung, Dropbox - she was unaware of what these accounts were even used for, and she thought it confusing to have them all on her phone. I didn't check, but it wouldn't surprise me if she was saving all her contacts to her phone rather than her Google account and thus negating a large benefit of having an Android phone.
All these things are minor to the likes of us who are used to Android, but she felt confused and out of her depth with the phone. I tried to show her stuff and reassure her, and she has said she will give it a few more days - but she isn't comfortable with it and may return it for another iPhone...
Admittedly she is not a techie sort of person, but I do feel that Samsung (and Google) could do a bit more to simplify things for the likes of her, because ultimately they are competing against Apple the masters of simple and making people feel at home with their devices.
My discussion with her has really opened my eyes as to why so many people love the iPhone, despite it being inferior in many ways to the S3. I guess you can sell a Ferrari at Ford prices, but not everyone has the skills to drive and park such a machine...
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Literally dude I am surprised you wrote this long problem stats. First half of the things you asked are solved in settings for ex. your first problem is solved in playstore settings and similarly same with touchwiz go in menu press option button and u get grid view choose your type and your many other problems would be solved by reading whats written in plain english and smart phones are to bug around and learn about it not to keep in showcase
Nikhil'Da Devil said:
How did you last this long on this forum...................head bang
Literally dude I am surprised you wrote this long problem stats. First half of the things you asked are solved i settings for ex. your first problem is solved in playstore settings and similarly same with touchwiz go in menu prss option button and u get grid view choose your type and your many other problems would be solved by reading whats written in plain english
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That's ironic, because you clearly didn't read the beginning of his post.
For point 1, you can disable the shortcut creation in the home screen so that it will create only in the app drawer.
I expect Google having its own findmylostphone service..... Samsung drive is useless.
The one big issue that I see in S3 is the lag that is in the home screen after returning back from another app. Samsung was pathetic there. Also inside the. App drawer lags inside the widgets tab. Even though S3 is a power horse Samsung has failed in many places....
No phone is perfect to fulfil everyone's need but the features that are released shouldn't be as half baked as the TW home screen. Disappointed.
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Well you typed an essay...
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The only thing that this post proves is that most people are stupid and don't take the time to learn things that they use everyday. Why have a smartphone of u don't take the time to learn how to use it?
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Get her to go Windows. It's just two rows but more customization than IOS.
What Samsung should do is make a Galaxy S4 and a Galaxy SW. Make the hardware exactly the same but market the S4 to intermediate to advance user and market the SW with Windows Phone 9 to beginner to intermediate users.
The reason I say that this is how they should approach it is because Android is like what you described inherently. It gives you a lot of ways to do things from every screen. Samsung can't really dumb it down anymore or there is no point using Android. So Windows for beginners is how Samsung should approach it but instead of fragmenting their market just call the next Ativ S a Galaxy SW and watch the money come in from the beginners.
IPhone for girls and soccer moms. Android is for advanced users. I understand what you're getting at.
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I have a couple of friends who got the S3 just about the same time as myself. They both were ex iphone users and were both using BB torch prior to the S3. After a month, I was quite familiar with all the functions such as smart stay, direct call, swipe capture... etc. They were quite surprised that those features existed when i showed them, despite the fact there are pop up tutorials when you first use the phone. That's how i knew those features existed.
I dont think i'm any smarter than the average person, I think they are just too lazy and can't be bothered. Or maybe they are just living life and not sitting down with a computer, hitting the refresh button to see if the link to the latest JB leak have been posted up.
Nikhil'Da Devil said:
How did you last this long on this forum...................head bang
Literally dude I am surprised you wrote this long problem stats. First half of the things you asked are solved in settings for ex. your first problem is solved in playstore settings and similarly same with touchwiz go in menu press option button and u get grid view choose your type and your many other problems would be solved by reading whats written in plain english
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You apparently have a reading comprehension disability. He was pointing out that these things are not as obvious to others as they are to us, as in the case of his colleague.
This has been obvious to me since I first got an android. I have had no issues, though I have missed some options till reading about them a time or two or just forgot where they were.
That's why there will always be a need for the iPhone, for those who cannot figure **** out on their own.
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I m gs3 USEr and GS3 is really failed phone bcoz....
wt the hell this time apple really make awesome work look at the picture...
http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/344/6674/original.jpg
lol hahahaha
setspeed said:
A work colleague came and asked me to explain a few things about her new S3 today, since she knows I have one and she upgraded to it after having a little look at mine last week. She had an iPhone before.
1. Play Store default setting is to dump app icons all over your homescreens - she had about 30 icons dotted across her home screens, and she couldn't understand why they were duplicated there and in her app drawer.
2. The Touchwiz launcher default is not to alphabetically organise your apps, and she said she had a hard time finding each app when she wanted to use it
3. Some of the cool features are not turned on by default, and are buried in menus which a novice user is not going to find. Case in point, voice control of apps is under Settings in S Voice. First off there is no indication that Settings is even there unless you know to pres the menu button (not intuitive at all). If these features were turned on in the first place then the popup notifications you get when using the apps would've told her about their existence, and hence she could've been using them on her own.
4. Disabling built in apps - first off she had no idea that it could be done, she just knew that she couldn't uninstall them via Play Store like her downloaded apps, and there lots she wanted rid of. When I showed her the Applications Manager this caused confusion on three counts:
A) why is there two places to get rid of/disable apps,
B) why do you have to uninstall updates to some built in apps before the disable button is shown,
C) she didn't feel comfortable messing around in a menu which clearly has essential system apps with weird (to a novice) names such as Certificate Installer, Factory Test, Security Storage and com.android.smspush
5. She didn't really understand what a Widget was and why there was a list of them at the end of her app drawer, and how to use them. I can't remember whether the setup wizard covers widgets or not, but suffice to say if it did then she had not understood it, and dismissed it. She was scrolling to the end of the apps into her widgets and saying "I don't understand these funny looking apps - they don't do anything when I press them"... She did not see the tab at the top which detotes the difference between apps and widgets, and there is no other indication when you get into the widgets.
6. She says the battery life is not good compared to her old iPhone. After having a quick look at her Battery stats (unplugged after full charge, 7.5hrs off the charger 1.5hrs screen on time, 25% battery left) there was nothing in particular acting up, however her cell reception was burning a lot of the battery. She said that her reception (measured by the number of bars - I know, I know!) was not as good as her iPhone. So the 2 issues here are that her battery is objectively not as good, and her reception is subjectively not as good as her old iPhone.
7. She does like the camera, but was unaware of features such as panorama and shooting stills whilst recording video (and I'll mention again, the possibility of voice control). However she WAS aware that the new iPhone does these things (minus the voice control).
8. She didn't understand why she needed multiple accounts for things, Google, Samsung, Dropbox - she was unaware of what these accounts were even used for, and she thought it confusing to have them all on her phone. I didn't check, but it wouldn't surprise me if she was saving all her contacts to her phone rather than her Google account and thus negating a large benefit of having an Android phone.
All these things are minor to the likes of us who are used to Android, but she felt confused and out of her depth with the phone. I tried to show her stuff and reassure her, and she has said she will give it a few more days - but she isn't comfortable with it and may return it for another iPhone...
Admittedly she is not a techie sort of person, but I do feel that Samsung (and Google) could do a bit more to simplify things for the likes of her, because ultimately they are competing against Apple the masters of simple and making people feel at home with their devices.
My discussion with her has really opened my eyes as to why so many people love the iPhone, despite it being inferior in many ways to the S3. I guess you can sell a Ferrari at Ford prices, but not everyone has the skills to drive and park such a machine...
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help her see the light, guide her.
2ndaccord said:
The only thing that this post proves is that most people are stupid and don't take the time to learn things that they use everyday. Why have a smartphone of u don't take the time to learn how to use it?
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That's the reason most people don't like android phones. They find it complicated. Those who know something about technology and open source or wants more from their phone they switch to android.
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I can't understand the reason of this thread, most of the "problems" are just caused by the inexperience. Logically android it's not iOS and i don't get why she spent her money in a phone that don't wanna learn to use
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Thank you for your replies regarding on how to "fix" her issues, perhaps I didn't make it clear enough - I was able to sort all of her issues out for her as I am well versed with Android. The point is that many of her issues require digging down into menus that a novice could not know existed, or they are issues caused by thoughtless defaults on the part of the manufacturer.
Many people (iPhone users especially I think) pick up a device and learn how it works by using it, they don't want or have time to read manuals or dig through settings menus trying to guess what might or might not be in there. For instance my colleague couldn't make the mental link between installing a new app and having it appear in two different places (seemingly randomly arranged, because it would just go to the first empty space on her home screen, and her app drawer was not alphabetically organised).
If she couldn't make that mental stretch, how would you then expect her to think "Ah, this behaviour might be adjustable - where would I adjust it? Oh of course, in the Play Store settings, where if I press the Menu button (with no indicator that there is a menu underneath that button on that screen) and de-tick auto-add widgets"
And they aren't even widgets, they're app icons! So even if she had got there by some stroke of luck, she probably wouldn't have understood it anyway, because widgets are something else!
My point is that Android and Samsung have a long way to go in the usability stakes for novices.
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I can't understand the reason of this thread, most of the "problems" are just caused by the inexperience. Logically android it's not iOS and i don't get why she spent her money in a phone that don't wanna learn to use
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She got the phone because she was impressed with it's physical characteristics, big screen & nice camera. But using it has been far more difficult for her than her old phone, and hence she doesn't feel comfortable with it unfortunately.
Man I gave up long ago trying to convert iPhone users.
I tried to convert 3 at my work, and all 3 times it backfired on me. They could not grasp Android after using iOS for so long and you become the ASSHOLE that ruins their life. iOS is a perfect operating system for most people, you don't really have to think much to use it. It's just so beautifully easy to use and intuitive that you could just pick it up and master it within 10 minutes.
On that note, I could NEVER EVER go back to iOS, ever. When I use an iOS device, it feels like I'm using a phone. When I use my Android device, it feels like I'm using a computer.
So basically OP, she doesn't know how to use the phone yet?
Why the hell did she buy a phone thinking she would instantly know how to use it?
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On that note, I could NEVER EVER go back to iOS, ever. When I use an iOS device, it feels like I'm using a phone. When I use my Android device, it feels like I'm using a computer.
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That's exactly how it is!
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setspeed said:
Thank you for your replies regarding on how to "fix" her issues, perhaps I didn't make it clear enough - I was able to sort all of her issues out for her as I am well versed with Android. The point is that many of her issues require digging down into menus that a novice could not know existed, or they are issues caused by thoughtless defaults on the part of the manufacturer.
Many people (iPhone users especially I think) pick up a device and learn how it works by using it, they don't want or have time to read manuals or dig through settings menus trying to guess what might or might not be in there. For instance my colleague couldn't make the mental link between installing a new app and having it appear in two different places (seemingly randomly arranged, because it would just go to the first empty space on her home screen, and her app drawer was not alphabetically organised).
If she couldn't make that mental stretch, how would you then expect her to think "Ah, this behaviour might be adjustable - where would I adjust it? Oh of course, in the Play Store settings, where if I press the Menu button (with no indicator that there is a menu underneath that button on that screen) and de-tick auto-add widgets"
And they aren't even widgets, they're app icons! So even if she had got there by some stroke of luck, she probably wouldn't have understood it anyway, because widgets are something else!
My point is that Android and Samsung have a long way to go in the usability stakes for novices.
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I edited my reply with more thoughts. Basically, I don't see Android going that route of simplifying because that is just not in the Android genetics. All android manufacturers should follow HTC and Samsung and make idiot proof Window phones to supplement their advance android devices. Because let's face it, if they dumb down Android some more most of us are gone once we get bored of Jelly Bean. No one here wants Android 4.2 to be simple like IOS.
Don't understand it either. I jumped on a Mac the other day and was lost in iOS. Problem IMHO Mac holds your hand does it for you, whether you like it or not.
Android, less hand holding and many ways to do the same task. Can see that being confusing. It's like a prisoner being let free, all those new options are so confusing.
Like comparing a new Honda with automatic everything. To a Ferrari or Porsche that surrounds you with options of how you want everything to operate.
As I say in IT, to most plebes RTFM.
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Picked up the Note 3 yesterday and so far I'm loving it, however, there have been a handful of times where the device has lagged or momentarily froze. Not only does it hang, but the app crashes too. This has happened with the built-in Samsung apps.
If I remember correctly, I was bouncing around my home screen and app drawer (TouchWiz). I specifically remember swiping up from the bottom to open Flipboard, it hung, then I got a message stating My Magazine has crashed and stopped..
This is not what I was expecting from my new Note 3 :crying:
EDIT: Also, the screen doesn't come on instantly when I click the lock button. There's usually a slight delay.
yeah i get minor lag every now and then but i find that normal as i have ALOT of apps running... i was haing tw home FC, i think it FCed 3 or 4 times didnt happen again but i still uninstalled it via tibu cuz i am using nova instead... as for the waking lag yeah i get that sometimes as well but not all the time.... some widgets like the clock widget i have on my homscreen/lockscreen take 5-10 secs to load...
PS- btw this question belongs in the Q&A section, not the general section
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
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I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
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I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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You have the S800 version.
Bugs it is then, Google will have to fix the playstore, also Samsung has to fix that "My Magazine" thing, I mean it runs fast but the first load and the updating is quite slow and buggy.
Other than that, It's fast everywhere I noticed, and it should be with that hardware.
BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps... but i do agree that everyone has a different understanding of the word "lag"
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
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ok now that is weird.. i should even say i haev minor lag, its more like the phone stutters every now and then
chrisrotolo said:
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
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i have that issue only when i try changing the multi window apps.. i have to touch the apps like 2 or 3 times for the touch to register
Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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no the international n9000 wont get the HMP update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469610
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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yeah you have the snapdragon, the octa core/xynos chipset is in the international version.. US didnt get it
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Khizar said:
yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps...
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There's no such thing as a "SM-900" or "SM-9005" ROM. Each regional ROM is different and can have different versions of Samsung's own apps and third party apps that are bundled with it. So one region could have force closes out-of-the-box while another doesn't.
I'll give you an example. When the N10.1 came out people were complaining they couldn't import PDFs in to S Note. After researching it, based on region, there were almost a dozen different versions of S Note used in the various ROMs Samsung deployed worldwide. Two of those versions were borked and couldn’t import PDFs. And that was within 90 days of the N10.1's release. So it's very possible that the strange behavior people are reporting could be regional. OP and I both have U.S. versions of the SM-9005 but are on two different carriers. So if he's experiencing the behavior he described after a hard reset it's probably something unique to his carrier's (Verizon) version of the s/w.
Well then, poor exynos buyers, I was tempted to get one for that lone reason, no I don't regret passing it at all and getting the 9005.
BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
I have power button lag. Takes a full second after pressing the power button to sleep sometimes. Clearing processes from RAM usually solves this.
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I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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letsgophillyingeneral said:
I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
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Incredibly annoying why Samsung chose to persist with this.
PaulGG said:
I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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i have had music force close a few times but nothing else. why dont u try a factory reset? i would wipe dalvik cache too but i dont know if u can do it without root.
give the n3 a chance to receive a few updates before you make up your mind. also could be initial hardware that is faulty, the very first note 2 i got had quite a few issues. sold and bought a new one few months later and that one lasted me until n3.
Just as a thought maybe a 4.3 android thing, I know when my old N7 got 4.3 it was not as stable as the previous version, also my note 8.0 and note 2 are fast more stable than my Note 3. Unloaded a load of app today and it seems better, it is fast and I am sure Samsung will issue updates. Be interesting to see how the N2 and S4 deal with version 4.3
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I love my Note 3, I'm stock unrooted on 4.4.2 and it's one of the best Android experiences I've ever encountered (not including the Nexus lines). I've disabled as many bloatware apps as I could and the Note flys around from task to task with incredible fluidity and zero lag. - Except for in one area, the camera.
To say it pisses me off is an understatement. The camera is the one place where the fluid and snappy Note 3 UI falls down. One of the most annoying glitches associated with the camera app is that it disables transition animation scale occasionally when opening and closing the app. This ruins the experience across the entire device. The second is the glitchy way in which the app itself opens. It's usually just a glitchy stutter mixed with black flashes until it opens. On the off chance you're lucky to get an animation, it's a stupid counterintuitive weird glitchy rotation animation. The two combined make for extremely frustrating use.
Once you're in the app and you've given it a couple seconds, the photos and videos you can capture are brilliant, but even then there are the cluttered options menus with a million different mode and persistent beauty face on self facing camera.
When will Samsung fix/optimise the camera app once and for all instead of reusing the same crap code. - The weird rotation animation was the same on my Note 2, but there it was the only problem and at least worked every time..
/rant
And ? Complain to Samsung.
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Dejan Sathanas said:
And ? Complain to Samsung.
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And? What would that achieve? Samsung do not listen to their customers. Let alone a single disgruntled user.
Xda developers however (the clue is in the name), is full of talented developers and users that may share my frustration and upon reading this thread, either spring into action and create a previously nonexistent solution, or provide me with details of one they have already found to the same problem.
FatPhysicsBoy said:
And? What would that achieve? Samsung do not listen to their customers. Let alone a single disgruntled user.
Xda developers however (the clue is in the name), is full of talented developers and users that may share my frustration and upon reading this thread, either spring into action and create a previously nonexistent solution, or provide me with details of one they have already found to the same problem.
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But with Samsung not releasing their source code of their modified Android OS, there is a limit to what XDA Developers can do - please have a look at the smali language which is what you get when you decompile and reverse engineer android apps, its horrendous, even for those of us that claim some level of competence in it (of which I count myself amongst them).
You could always download a different camera app from the Play Store?
Ultimately you should be complaining to Samsung. They're the ones who made the app that like that.
"When will Samsung fix/optimise the camera app once and for all instead of reusing the same crap code"
When enough people email in and complain to them telling them their software is rubbish... no point ranting on here about it where no one from Samsung reads it, go and actually rant to the people that matter in this - Samsung.