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Thread Closed! Will the samsung focus have an android development?

ive noticed the galaxyS/Captivate and the Focus are very similar in hardware except for the memory card syncing with the phone itself and the cpu focus:snapdragon / galaxys/captivate hummingbird, so i was wondering if anyone is working on it already or maybe attempting to gather information on a new beginning for this phones journey into xda

dahrat said:
ive noticed the galaxyS/Captivate and the Focus are very similar in hardware except for the memory card syncing with the phone itself and the cpu focus:snapdragon / galaxys/captivate hummingbird, so i was wondering if anyone is working on it already or maybe attempting to gather information on a new beginning for this phones journey into xda
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I havent heard anything about anyone trying to port android to the focus or any WP7 phones yet...but it may come in the future...im not sure if its possible or not...but im pretty sure these XDA devs can make it happen.

i hope xda is the first i might not post much and lurk more but if its any site i want to see catch a big fish its here <3

dahrat said:
i hope xda is the first i might not post much and lurk more but if its any site i want to see catch a big fish its here <3
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If anybody does it first it will be here!

android on WP7
Theoretically is possible now that the WP7 is jailbraked.... it just has to be installed as a partition on the drive, as we can no longer run it from within WP7 and get all its features running. This is because WP7 will not let you stop processes that belong to other apps like phone or the UI so android can be booted like we do on WM (correct me if I'm wrong.....I don't think I am). Also the encoding of wp7 storage is tricky and partitioning it is hard....ask the guys trying to install WP7 on the HD2.....I'm pretty sure that we will see it done very soon as it only needs a loader program in the beginning of the phone to choose your operating system...like we see when we have Linux and windows on our PC.
As for the other part of this is the drivers that are not developed in droid for the focus.....maybe the captivate looks like the same phone but inside can be a hole new ball game. We have a led flash on our cameras which something tells me the camera is not the same. The captivate have a hummingbird processor as the focus has a snapdragon (but i don't think this would be a problem as a lot of other DROIDs have snapdragon). Samsung maybe just "semi-cloned" the look of the device because the captivate is one of the most selling phones they got. The internals can be completely different

Hi All
I was hoping someone might know if there has been any development on the Samsung Focus as far as getting Android on to it and getting WP7 off?
I've got the option of taking a Captivate but I really like the SnapDragons and I prefer the outer case of the Focus.
Anyone heard anything more about Android on the Focus recently?

Anyone know? I'm going to give this phone back today if not as I have searched and searched and can't find anything on it :-(

Latz said:
I've got the option of taking a Captivate but I really like the SnapDragons and I prefer the outer case of the Focus.
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Why? Hummingbird is faster than SnapDragon in many ways (the only reason Focus does not use Hummingbird is because WP7 only support SnapDragon chip at this time). If you want Android, get Captivate or other Android phones. There is no sense to spend money to buy a WP7 phone and hack it that way. Although Android is open source, phone hardware drivers are not. Devs can only working on getting ROMs assembled using phones with similar hardware. But Samsung never has any Snapdragon android phone before.

LOL how would you go about partitioning off the memory? With the way WP7 integrate external memory with the internal memory? Thus there would be no storage because you can't even see anything stored on the SD. Androids also run on a 4 button system, WP7's have only 3. Some of the hardware isn't the same, and even every galaxy class phone has diffrent hardware. Go buy and android phone or an HD2 if you hell bent on running 2 OS. Also if you would've read the WP7 development forum as to why not to ask this question you'd know why they are not doing it.

Here's your answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949042

foxbat121 said:
There is no sense to spend money to buy a WP7 phone and hack it that way.
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There's plenty of sense if you prefer the look of the phone over the android equivalent? Besides, a lot of us (including me) bought the HTC HD2 as a WinMo then changed it to run Android when we could have just bought Android phones?
foxbat121 said:
.......Devs can only working on getting ROMs assembled using phones with similar hardware.........
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They managed to get Android working on the HD2 which has a Snapdragon?

ITDRAGON said:
LOL how would you go about partitioning off the memory? With the way WP7 integrate external memory with the internal memory? Thus there would be no storage because you can't even see anything stored on the SD. Androids also run on a 4 button system, WP7's have only 3. Some of the hardware isn't the same, and even every galaxy class phone has diffrent hardware. Go buy and android phone or an HD2 if you hell bent on running 2 OS. Also if you would've read the WP7 development forum as to why not to ask this question you'd know why they are not doing it.
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I'm sorry I must be missing something? all the link says is to read the stickies, would you mind pointing me to the forum that they are referring to? I have searched but mustn't be typing in the correct string...
Oh, on the point of WP7's memory allocation - I think you need to read up on it a bit more too as there is a way you can seperate the SD.
Got a captivate yesterday anyway... not sure if I'll keep it though, might move to the Desire HD - it's much more like my HD2 which I really liked.

Latz said:
They managed to get Android working on the HD2 which has a Snapdragon?
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Because the HD2 Android counter part, EVO, is a Snapdragon phone. I said Samsung does not have a Snapdragon Android phone out there. It is very difficult to use ROM parts from other manufacturers.
Remember Devs are mostly called Chefs. They mix and pick different parts and assemble them into ROMs. They are not developing them like from source code to ROMs. They can only work on the parts that are offered by phone makers, not from scratch.

Thread Closed! Hardware may be very similar but the architecture is very different. Would be too much of a time consuming job regardless for the moment. This question has also been asked many times. Please search the Windows Phone 7 related forums before posting. Thanks.

Google Edition S4 Rom ??

Assuming the hardware is identical for the Google edition S4/ to the ATT version, i assume once you PhoneWizards get a hold of one of them and remove the ROM or Google is a G and releases that said ROM , we could jimmy that onto an ATT bought phone and be in Google heaven?
Like wise the updates could be applied as needed via the code release or extraction?
or is there some neeto software lock they are cooking into that so it wont work on a Non "edition" phone? (at least until the smarties hack it)
Okay thanks !
i booted up CM10.1 yesterday, and thank god for you people, i donated 10 bucks to the cause

This ROM's release will show how the developers at Google and HTC are at a different level when it comes to ROM development and stability! I can't wait for the release.

Agree
Weldzor said:
Assuming the hardware is identical for the Google edition S4/ to the ATT version, i assume once you PhoneWizards get a hold of one of them and remove the ROM or Google is a G and releases that said ROM , we could jimmy that onto an ATT bought phone and be in Google heaven?
Like wise the updates could be applied as needed via the code release or extraction?
or is there some neeto software lock they are cooking into that so it wont work on a Non "edition" phone? (at least until the smarties hack it)
Okay thanks !
i booted up CM10.1 yesterday, and thank god for you people, i donated 10 bucks to the cause
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I totally agree. I can't imagine the rom being too different. I just purchased an ATT GS4 for $1.74 from BestBuy. I couldn't give up the deal especially with the GE GS4 going for over $500, but I'm hoping to install the GE rom on it. Either that or I'll sell mine on ebay and just buy the GE outright. I hope this comes soon. Wanted to put CM on it but read that I would lose the IR and bluetooth on it. Wasn't worth it for me to lose it.

mrwifi said:
I totally agree. I can't imagine the rom being too different. I just purchased an ATT GS4 for $1.74 from BestBuy. I couldn't give up the deal especially with the GE GS4 going for over $500, but I'm hoping to install the GE rom on it. Either that or I'll sell mine on ebay and just buy the GE outright. I hope this comes soon. Wanted to put CM on it but read that I would lose the IR and bluetooth on it. Wasn't worth it for me to lose it.
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From what I've been reading...the google edition probably won't have support for the ir blaster or other new sensors...but right now it is just speculation
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I think the devs will be able to get it ported over to the other GS4 variants and vice versa for any google edition S4 owners who want the Samsung ux.

itismadhan said:
This ROM's release will show how the developers at Google and HTC are at a different level when it comes to ROM development and stability! I can't wait for the release.
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What does HTC have to do with anything? You must mean Samsung?
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Google stock will have drivers for those sensors.. just lack of package to enable features (which is Touchwiz). Probably 3rd party remote apps still can use IR blaster.
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Does anyone know when this is expected to be released ?

LordGeek said:
Does anyone know when this is expected to be released ?
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June 26th I think
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I wonder if the Google edition S4 rom will support exFAT SDCards. If it does, I would switch from Samsung's roms. If it does not, I won't.
I most certainly will NOT use FAT32 formatting on my 64GB SDCard!!

rcklss1 said:
June 26th I think
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I've heard June 26th as well.

So is the only true advantage of getting the google edition phone is that it will have the boot loader unlocked? Since the current loki way of getting custom roms into our phones can be later patched and prevent us from installing newer version of android OS? Sorry for the noob question and observation.. but I still have time to return this the gs4 and just wait for the google edition so I'm trying to decided what is the best choice here.. I have the 32gb version which I would be losing that extra space and I'm hoping they offer it in black

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So is the only true advantage of getting the google edition phone is that it will have the boot loader unlocked? Since the current loki way of getting custom roms into our phones can be later patched and prevent us from installing newer version of android OS? Sorry for the noob question and observation.. but I still have time to return this the gs4 and just wait for the google edition so I'm trying to decided what is the best choice here.. I have the 32gb version which I would be losing that extra space and I'm hoping they offer it in black
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Well...I wouldn't return it if you got it with a contract, from what I understand the google edition will not be sold by carriers under a contract...so no $200 subsidized price. You will have to pay the full $600+ it costs...so if your interested in it than your probably gonna want to sell your s4 on craigslist for as close to full retail you can get...you should easily be able to pull in $600 for the 32gb
As far as other benefits besides an unlocked bootloader, we are not sure. It may or it may not come with drivers for the new sensors, one user claimed a page back that it would have drivers just not programs to use them...we don't know that, there is no solid evidence I'm aware of that says drivers will be included, its all speculation right now...I'm hoping they include drivers, but I'm not going to hold my breath for it either
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Almost certain things like the IR blaster wont be functional in the Google Edition devices, they already stated that the HTC One GE ir blaster won't be supported.

Curious why this isn't a more hot topic right now with the phones releasing tomorrow. Is there another thread somewhere with updated info?

Samsung AND HTC have google editions now
Their is also an HTC 'pure google' phone now, like they announced for the S4
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What does HTC have to do with anything? You must mean Samsung?
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I bet the Google rom will be the fastest spreading rom ever. Just a hunch.

penguinjoe said:
I wonder if the Google edition S4 rom will support exFAT SDCards. If it does, I would switch from Samsung's roms. If it does not, I won't.
I most certainly will NOT use FAT32 formatting on my 64GB SDCard!!
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Why not? There are ways to format a 64GB card as FAT32. I did so just fine on mine.

I'm curious about this as well. I'm using Nova Launcher, so at least I don't have to deal with TouchWiz, but pure would be nice...

Christopher3712 said:
Why not? There are ways to format a 64GB card as FAT32. I did so just fine on mine.
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Dranakin said:
I'm curious about this as well. I'm using Nova Launcher, so at least I don't have to deal with TouchWiz, but pure would be nice...
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There are a couple of reasons.
File size
FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit. That does not exist on a exfat filesystem. If I want to drop a 5-8GB HD movie on my sdcard, I can with exfat. With fat32, I need to either transcode the movie down to fit or split it up.
Fragmentation.
While the general thought is that SDCards don't need to be defragmented due to there being no moving parts, there is a study here that shows much different results: http://www.lagom.nl/misc/flash_fragmentation.html The results are shocking! Now add in the 32K cluster sizes (32GB sdcards only need 16k clusters) and you will see that fat32 filesystems would be a really bad idea for >32GB (or any for that matter) SDCards. Microsoft won't even support it. You have to go to third party utilities to force formatting these to FAT32. If Microsoft refuses to support >32GB on a drive with FAT32, what do they know that we don't? It is their file system!
Fat32 is simply a beefed up version of the FAT filesystem that was created in the 1970s. There really is no real difference beyond the bits used in the file allocation table to support larger and larger volumes. It is absolutely archaic in how it stores files and heavily prone to fragmentation. Worse, due to the limited lifespan of an SDCard or SSD, it is not recommended to defragment these often. Exfat has had its file allocation functions totally revamped to reduce or remove fragmentation. In fact it was designed specifically with solid state storage in mind.
So yeah, I'm, not keen on formatting my 64GB SDCard with FAT32. In fact if I could get away with exfat on my 32GB sdcard I be tempted to use it there too.
Hell, I would even be happy with ext2 or ext3 on my SDCard. I have no problem accessing Linux filesystems on my Windows box.

[Q] 16gb specific ROMs install on 32gb or 64gb S4?

Maybe it's a stupid question to many, but... I have the chance to order a 32gb korean version of the S4 off Taobao.com, and since I live in China it's quite convenient. The only issue I have is that I refuse to use an android phone without rooting it, and I've been a happy Wanam user for a long time on my S3.
The taobao seller states that 16gb ROMs CANNOT be used for 32gb models AT ALL, but I know better than blindly trusting ignorant Chinese vendors who usually don't know what they are talking about (personal experience).
It does not matter whether it's 9500, 9505 or whatever, this seller has all the models (even 9508 dual sim), I just want to understand if SIZE is a problem or not... Will I be able to just simply root it, and keep using the stock ROM at least? Or maybe I'll even be able to install ANY 16gb ROM of my choice? Or none of the above???
Thanks!
P.S. I searched the S4 forums but found no reference at all to this question...

UoMoTaLpA said:
Maybe it's a stupid question to many, but... I have the chance to order a 32gb korean version of the S4 off Taobao.com, and since I live in China it's quite convenient. The only issue I have is that I refuse to use an android phone without rooting it, and I've been a happy Wanam user for a long time on my S3.
The taobao seller states that 16gb ROMs CANNOT be used for 32gb models AT ALL, but I know better than blindly trusting ignorant Chinese vendors who usually don't know what they are talking about (personal experience).
It does not matter whether it's 9500, 9505 or whatever, this seller has all the models (even 9508 dual sim), I just want to understand if SIZE is a problem or not... Will I be able to just simply root it, and keep using the stock ROM at least? Or maybe I'll even be able to install ANY 16gb ROM of my choice? Or none of the above???
Thanks!
P.S. I searched the S4 forums but found no reference at all to this question...
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As long as you're flashing a i9505 ROM to an i9505-like(aka U.S. Carriers variants) device, and an i9500 ROM to an i9500-like device, you'll be just fine. Don't try to flash unlike devices(i.e. i9505 to i9500) though. Best case scenario, the flash will fail. Worst case, you'll brick the device.
Internal storage capacity has never, to my knowledge, had anything to do with what you could or could not flash.

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As long as you're flashing a i9505 ROM to an i9505-like(aka U.S. Carriers variants) device, and an i9500 ROM to an i9500-like device, you'll be just fine. Don't try to flash unlike devices(i.e. i9505 to i9500) though. Best case scenario, the flash will fail. Worst case, you'll brick the device.
Internal storage capacity has never, to my knowledge, had anything to do with what you could or could not flash.
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That would be my same guess, although the seller was adamant to the fact that it won't absolutely work (he even declared that he tried himself...). Though I agree with you, I'll wait for some concrete proof, when 32 and 64 gb versions will be more widely available, or at least until someone comes out with a first-person experience of this.
Anyway, thanks

UoMoTaLpA said:
That would be my same guess, although the seller was adamant to the fact that it won't absolutely work (he even declared that he tried himself...). Though I agree with you, I'll wait for some concrete proof, when 32 and 64 gb versions will be more widely available, or at least until someone comes out with a first-person experience of this.
Anyway, thanks
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I don't want to call the guy out... but that seller has some very funny ideas; likely he was trying to flash unlike devices. If you want further feedback, I'd suggest posting this question over in the AT&T forums since the 32gb is more widely released. Further, from my past experiences, I've successfully flashed ROMs intended for the Developer Edition(64gb) of the HTC One onto my 32gb.
Let's say, hypothetically, he's correct--the developers who create the ROMs would be required to, perhaps not by forum rules but more so out of "I'm not responsible if you do this," declare their ROMs only usable by certain phones with certain storage capacities?
I will applaud you for taking your time, reading, and doing research before jumping into the fray. Is this your first phone you've rooted?

unremarked said:
I don't want to call the guy out... but that seller has some very funny ideas; likely he was trying to flash unlike devices. If you want further feedback, I'd suggest posting this question over in the AT&T forums since the 32gb is more widely released. Further, from my past experiences, I've successfully flashed ROMs intended for the Developer Edition(64gb) of the HTC One onto my 32gb.
Let's say, hypothetically, he's correct--the developers who create the ROMs would be required to, perhaps not by forum rules but more so out of "I'm not responsible if you do this," declare their ROMs only usable by certain phones with certain storage capacities?
I will applaud you for taking your time, reading, and doing research before jumping into the fray. Is this your first phone you've rooted?
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Not at all, I rooted my first HTC Legend years ago, then my current S3,and so on. Happy user of Wanamlite ROM on my current S3 at the moment. Anyway, I guess our idea is correct. Not to belittle the vendor's experience, but in MY experience PRC people can be quite often very ignorant, or appear so at the very least, and declare the impossibility of an action or a request just to avoid any sort of responsibility in case the crap hits the fan... Think it as a sort of "ultimate disclaimer": I told you not to do it, so if you try and break it it's your problem.
After saying all this, I guess I'm in no rush since my S3 is still working like a charm after more than one year, I'm just exploring the S4 alley since I bough a SUPERCOOL Nolan bluetooth helmet for my bike, I use 2 sim cards at the same time (1 personal=S3, 1 work=HTClegend) and the HTC Legend's bluetooth is sort of fried So I was looking for a way to upgrade things.
I'll follow your suggestion and try to post in the AT&T section as well.
Thanks!

Maybe a new owner

Im about to swap my Iphone 5 for an s4
having owned HTC ONE, Note 2, Xperia z before, i terribly miss Android...
My concern for the s4 is memory space, I've read that only 9GB are available
also battery life is meant to be less than the HTC ONE is this true
and people have said stear clear as the s4 lags like crazy
hopefully im making the right decision, any advise would be great

Memory is ~ 9 GB , it's right. I don't have a HTC One but I can say the S4 Battery is ok. I don't know if you will stay on stock or you will root and use custom roms/kernel , with original stock you can come on 4-5 hours screen on time, with custom roms and kernel more ( my own experience , every user and phone are different )
About lags I can't say anything,I never use stock roms , with aosp I have no lags.
GT-I9505 ~ SlimBean ~ Aosp 4.3.1

Tylog said:
Memory is ~ 9 GB , it's right. I don't have a HTC One but I can say the S4 Battery is ok. I don't know if you will stay on stock or you will root and use custom roms/kernel , with original stock you can come on 4-5 hours screen on time, with custom roms and kernel more ( my own experience , every user and phone are different )
About lags I can't say anything,I never use stock roms , with aosp I have no lags.
GT-I9505 ~ SlimBean ~ Aosp 4.3.1
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9GB blimey thats pants, coming form a 64GB Iphone...eek, can you install apps on the SD card?

It's enough, you can use a external SD Card you can move apps to SD yes ( I think with stock it's possible too but as I say I never use stock roms ). I never need it, I have 200+apps on my phone ,a lot of backups, pictures and more and never had problems with space only music is on my external card. For me personal the space is enough
GT-I9505 ~ SlimBean ~ Aosp 4.3.1

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It's enough, you can use a external SD Card you can move apps to SD yes ( I think with stock it's possible too but as I say I never use stock roms ). I never need it, I have 200+apps on my phone ,a lot of backups, pictures and more and never had problems with space only music is on my external card. For me personal the space is enough
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Thanks, apparently he is throwing in a 64gb card, so thats handy, I am interested in the Samsung more, as we have just got a Samsung Smart TV, so im hoping I can utilise some of the features etc...

I would say Samsung is a good choice and all in all I think you will like it I use the most time nexus phones ( I am a aosp freak ) but as second phone I use to 95 percent Samsung phones.
GT-I9505 ~ SlimBean ~ Aosp 4.3.1

I switched a while back from 5 to S4.
And my conclusion is that I can do whatever i want with the phone

fatihbatur said:
I switched a while back from 5 to S4.
And my conclusion is that I can do whatever i want with the phone
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I would say that new firmware has bought the new Knox bootloaders on them. Again certain things will trigger the Knox warranty status making Knox useless but apparently also making the warranty useless and you can't reverse this not yet anyway if you trigger the flag. Bare that in mind if warranty is something that is crucial.
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I dont care about the Knox.
When there will be a hardwarematic problem with my s4 I will repair it self.
I dont need Samsung or Apple for this. (I owned more then 10 iPhones in the past without any need of the customer service)

Iphones are so overated with iOS 7 and the animations that go with the new os. touchwiz lag will be unnoticeable compared to that, but a good thing is you can turn off all the animations which in iphones you cant plus turn off s-voice via home key and it'll fly. If I was you I'd trade it for a 32 gig. I traded my 16 gig iPhone 5 for a 32 gig. But I mean the deal is on the table now and a 64 gig SD card with apps to SD is helpful. Plus rooting an adding a ROM makes it much better.
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fatihbatur said:
I dont care about the Knox.
When there will be a hardwarematic problem with my s4 I will repair it self.
I dont need Samsung or Apple for this. (I owned more then 10 iPhones in the past without any need of the customer service)
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Lol tech support is always online just use Google to find what you need to do
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Like everyone above said, you can install apps on the SD card. Also it works nicely with samsung smart tvs (Allshare and tv remote controls via WatchON app). I'm currently running Omega v13 ROM and theres no lag whatsoever.

Thanks for all your advice, best response from any post I've had on these forums. Thanks for not just telling me to google it.
Must admit I'm quite excited about having so many sensors. Like barometer, temp, proximity. Are there apps that utilise these.

Oh it seems the S4 is locked to EE, i need it to run with o2/giffgaff, is it easy to unlock these s4's, with iphones its a nightmare, should I not do the swap

THUDUK said:
Oh it seems the S4 is locked to EE, i need it to run with o2/giffgaff, is it easy to unlock these s4's, with iphones its a nightmare, should I not do the swap
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I can't really say because I'm in the US but even if we unlocked a phone say att for Verizon or vice versa we wouldn't be able to utilize the data plan like a carrier based phone. So say you got LTE on att phone but att won't allow you to bring an unlocked Verizon phone to att you can still get service make phone calls but you won't be able to get LTE and its just a headache to deal with. If I was you I'd shop around some more and see if you can get your carriers s4.
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Got it, wow what a phone, makes the iPhone 5 seem like a small toy

[Q] WIll 16 GB suffice?

Dear All,
I know what I'm asking is also personal preference.
Currently I own a Z1, but due to the bootloader issue when unlocking the bootloader your camera function breaks and very small rom community, it crossed my mind to buy a LG G2 (and what also helps is the terrific battery life).
The thing which is currently me holding back to buy a LG G2 is regarding the the 16GB. In The Netherlands they don't sell the 32GB version.
My questions are:
1. How much space does a custom LG stock rom software needs?
2. How much space does AOSP normally rom needs?
Thanks guys

JayantSparda said:
The thing which is currently me holding back to buy a LG G2 is regarding the the 16GB. In The Netherlands they don't sell the 32GB version.
My questions are:
1. How much space does a custom LG stock rom software needs?
2. How much space does AOSP normally rom needs?
Thanks guys
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I don't know how closely this will apply to your version, but my stock T-Mobile USA 32GB model shows 24GB of space, of which I've already used up 8 GB just loading up all my usual apps and such.
Seems like 16GB is likely to feel cramped.
Got the phone yesterday...so far, 1st impression, love it. Best phone I've owned...and I've owned quite a few

Zanthexter said:
I don't know how closely this will apply to your version, but my stock T-Mobile USA 32GB model shows 24GB of space, of which I've already used up 8 GB just loading up all my usual apps and such.
Seems like 16GB is likely to feel cramped.
Got the phone yesterday...so far, 1st impression, love it. Best phone I've owned...and I've owned quite a few
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Thanks for your answer Zanthexter.
16 GB's feels definitely cramped yeah..

JayantSparda said:
Dear All,
I know what I'm asking is also personal preference.
Currently I own a Z1, but due to the bootloader issue when unlocking the bootloader your camera function breaks and very small rom community, it crossed my mind to buy a LG G2 (and what also helps is the terrific battery life).
The thing which is currently me holding back to buy a LG G2 is regarding the the 16GB. In The Netherlands they don't sell the 32GB version.
My questions are:
1. How much space does a custom LG stock rom software needs?
2. How much space does AOSP normally rom needs?
Thanks guys
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I think I asked somewhere. Since there it's no repartitioning. The roms take the same space.
Had before a 32GB hox. That was enough with USB otg.
Now this 16 having only 10 GB left. With one backup almost 3GB compressed. Some pics and one big game Asphalt and I can't do a second backup....
Without USB OTG a 16 would be for me unstable unusable....
Still waiting for my meenova
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LG customers (along with many others) get 50gb free space on box for lifetime at the moment.

No effing way. The OS/ROM holds 9 GB ransom. I suppose 16GB would be OK for a casual user, but casual users wouldn't register for an XDA account.
Flipping ridiculous, man. I don't need, or particularly want, all the fancy animations and stuff. 9 gigs for a phone OS? The Linux instance on my HTPC is half that... Shoot, I can trim Windows 7 down to within spitting distance of that.
Can't wait for true skinny stable AOSP 4.4 on this device.
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